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….No.
Just….no.

How is an 11 year old of any maturity to understand how tattoos aren’t like Crayola markers?

No.

That is the stupidest thing to be arrested for. I got my belly button pierced at 12 with parental consent and obviously it was done professionally. That’s not illegal so how is a tattoo any different?

Whatever the outcome of this case, at least it’s a professional looking job, not some hack job done with a safety-pin like some kids give themselves. She seemed to take precautions with the numbing agent, so I’m sure she would have used sterile equipment, and it won’t get infected. I’m glad the daughter at least wanted it and it wasn’t forced upon her, but some would say she’s not old enough to know what she would want permanantly. However, I think if she loves her mother, the fact that her own mother tattoed her tattoo is sort of cool (though she should perhaps have waited a few more years). 

  Is it really SO much different than the mothers who get their babies’ ears pierced? The hole can close up, but there is still a mark and scar tissue if the child decides they don’t want them when they get of age. That doesn’t stop many mothers who are hoping and guessing the girl will like it, or not even considering what the baby wants at all, just what THEY like.. At least in THIS case, the girl stated that she did want it.

That young? I dont agree with even if the girl wanted it. In some states I think the minimum is 16 with parental permission.

That’s disgusting.  Professionally done or not, it’s child abuse.

@ItsAll_A_LoveWar@xanga - Because the difference between your piercing and her tattoo is that yours can simply be taken out, hers can’t. I still feel that anyone 13 or younger even with parental consent shouldn’t be able to get tattoos or piercing, I have both and if I had gotten either of them at 11 or 12 I’m pretty positive I’d regret it now. 

that child will never be allowed to work at children’s hospital… just saying. 

@Crystalinne@xanga - ear piercings are small and better accepted by most employers or customers. There’s a lot of conservative old people out there. 

When I was 11, I wanted FUCK YOU tattooed on my fingers.  Yeah…I was 100% sure and 100% capable of knowing the future.  *rolls eyes*

i thought kids were allowed to get tattoos as long as there is parental consent?

I thought it WAS legal to tattoo a minor with parental consent. Yes, she is very young, but I know at least in MY state its legal. Many of my friends had tattoos under 18. I don’t see how this case is any different. I had 4 piercings in my ears by the time I was 11. Yes, tattoos are more permanent, but both she and her mother consented to it, and it was tastefully done. It was done on her SHOULDER, that can be hidden.

Edit – just checked out an official article – it was a tiny, tiny outline of a heart on her back shoulder blade area. That can definitely be covered up.

I think it’s insane because she’s only 11 and her mother should never have tattooed her, even if she said she wanted it. I am all for freedom, but when you’re 11 there’s no way for you to know who you’re going to be. I know I’m not even close to being the person that I wanted to be when I was 11. I know not everyone is the same, but still, a lot of people are the same way. You shouldn’t get a tattoo until you’re old enough to understand why you might regret it some day. At least if you understand why you might someday regret it you have a better understanding of why you want to get one.

@eatdrinkandbemaryy@xanga - @SUPletstake___surveys@xanga - I think that (at least in Canada if I recall correctly) that while you can get a tattoo with parental consent under the age of 18, I think there is still a minimum age you have to be. Most likely because of 1) the cost, 2) the potential health risks, 3) how permanent it is. I see no problem getting a tattoo at a younger age especially if it’s small or on areas where they can be covered up, because honestly it seems that tattoos are becoming more and more acceptable in the work place. 11 is kind of young to be doing this but at the same time I don’t see this situation as being like “OMG KILL THE MOM WITH FIRE” because of her actions. Nothing that I’d consider abuse or worthy of jail time, at the MOST maybe some charges but nothing serious. Especially if the mom is a licensed tattoo artist.

@eatdrinkandbemaryy@xanga - @SUPletstake___surveys@xanga - according to Wikipedia, it’s illegal in North Carolina (where they’re from) to be tattooed under the age of 18 regardless of whether or not you have parental consent.

I think that if that mother is a tattoo artist (which I am assuming she is since she owns tattoo equipment) that she should have known what the laws were regarding tattoos in her state. If she isn’t an actual tattoo artist, then that means that she was tattooing illegally (regardless of the age of the tattooee). That being said, really not much different than the moms that let their 11 year old daughters get their ears pierced. The difference is that we have become more used to seeing little girls with pierced ears, while little girls with tattoos is still a taboo. As for the people that say that piercings heal if you take them out, that’s not always the case. A lot of people take out piercings and can be left with scars, skin tags, keloids, or even the hole still remaining. So, I don’t see how one is necessarily different than the other. However, I think that if my child wanted a tattoo, I would at least make him or her wait until the age of 16.

I am a little curious as to how big the tattoo is? If it was the size of an soda can or bigger, then I can see why it would be a problem, but if it is the size of like a pencil eraser or smaller, then it seems as unobtrusive as a cute stud earring or something.

@ashleynicole - if the mom was a legal tattoo artist though, then wouldn’t she have known the legal age for tattooing somebody in the state?

I don’t see what the big deal is.  The girl said she wanted it, her mom did it in a tasteful manner.  It’s small enough that it can be covered or even removed if the girl changes her mind later.  People just like to have a reason to intrude and bitch about things that don’t concern them.

It’s legal to mutilate baby boys on the day they are born though. Just sayin’. Perhaps cosmetic body modification of any kind should be illegal until the age of 18. I might actually get behind that law if it were proposed. 

We need licenses for all types of things but not becoming parents. I seriously wonder about that sometimes…

On another note, it’s often a two edged sword when you arrest a parent “for the good of the minors”. It must be terribly traumatic for a young girl to see her mother pay for a mistake she might feel she could have prevented.
Same with tan mom’s daughter… I feel so sorry for her having to see how her mother got treated publicly. That can wear on the realtionship for ever. Or with the relationship wit society. If someone truly wants to help kids make stories where they are a part in stay out of the media.

no…not supporting this.
I am always FOR certain liberties in parenting…for example I will never get why certain people make earrings such a big deal. The holes grow in and are “socially acceptable”. I would agree with other piercings too (you can take them out). I even tolerate circumcision as long as it’s not done in some strange medically unsafe religous rituals, because it is also pretty much accepted (you can get circumcised for medical reasons after all)… even though I don’t really get why people are so “book- religous”.
No one would consider it ‘abuse’ if you let a scar remove, or a large mole, or a different pigmentary abnormality. Or if you get your child braces only for aestethic reasons.

The thing is a tattoo IS somewhat socially unacceptable, especially some cheesy heart! I don’t know if she really abused the kid in this case….I agree it is at least in a plae whare it CAN be covered up (even though not under all ‘normal’ circumstances nowadays…youd on’t wear t-shirts to the beach), but if it was allowed to do this, it would OPEN the door for abuse.

As an avid lover of tattoos, I still think that no one should get one until they have reached the age of consent. Even if your parent gives you consent, I disagree. You are 15-6, and you want a tattoo? Are you going to want that same tattoo at 30? 50?

@leesha628 – I think the girl is old enough to understand what permanent is and the mom was just giving the girl what she asked for. If the parent is willing to give consent, then I don’t see what the big issue with it is.

Tattoos hurt and I know cause I got one years ago !

I’m glad her arm was numbed cause she’d likely really be screaming and stuff. But yah, I don’t know where you draw the line (if you’ll pardon the term). If it’s her daughter, the daughter wants it, she wants it, she did a professional and good job. How does the law intervene in this matter again ? Φ ≡

Recommend Crystalinne‘s post.

America: The land of hypocrisy?
It’s perfectly legal to: poison, crush the skull of, or tear apart an unborn child with maternal consent (death is permanent); pierce an infant’s ears with one parent’s consent (contrary to popular belief, they do NOT always close back up, and NOT every female ever gets or even wants her ears pierced); chop off parts of an infant boy’s penis, even if the father strongly objects (also… pretty darn permanent, and that’s not even getting into all of the other problems there).
But a mother tattoos her child, at the child’s request (assuming there was no coercion), and we get our panties in a bunch over it? It can be covered easily, and it’s something the child won’t likely grow up to hate. Even if she does, she can get it removed. It’s not the decision I would have made, but that doesn’t mean I think the government should be telling every parent they have to do exactly what I would do in every situation.

Children can be pretty fickle and change their minds. I say that no tattooes should be allowed until the age of at least 16.

More worst abuse of tattoo are prison tattoos. They are done under less sanitary conditions and sometimes there is peer pressure for the tattoos. The other worse condition is the drunk victim that decides to get a tattoo,

@Crystalinne@xanga - A scar or hole on your ear is much different from a tattoo.  Wait, let me check… oh yeah, holes in my ear (very tiny) and my tattoos… yeah, a world of difference.  Just saying, not that I agree parents should pierce their kid’s ears either.

@WaitingToShrug@xanga - Actually I agree.  I don’t think ear piercing is THAT necessary that we can’t just say no body modifications until 18.  

I know minors cannot be tattooed under any circumstances in Oregon.

@TiredSoVeryTired@xanga - Ear piercing could even have an earlier date, with parental consent, given that the pain is very little and it doesn’t really change your body *that* badly. But tattoos, scarification, and other body mods? I think that the person whose body it’s going to be done to should bear the full legal and moral responsibility. Can’t get a tat until you can sign a contract, that’s what I would think. 

Isn’t it quite unsafe to numb the area being tattooed? That’s what my tattooist said to me =/

@littlemiss_understood@xanga - Yeah, I questioned that too.  

@WaitingToShrug@xanga - Yeah, I agree.  I let my daughter pierce her ears after she begged for a couple of years.  She never wears them now, but they are just a couple of tiny holes.  They aren’t comparable to a tattoo in appearance nor in pain!

@kelkelding@xanga - How is that so?

I’m not against it. People like how will she understand it’s permanent well 99% of the time you learn something it’s from doing it. People compare tattoos to scarification that’s a little over the top there… I mean really. Yes they are all forms of body modification but they’re 2 completely different things.

@littlemiss_understood@xanga - I was told it wasn’t unsafe just makes the tattoo not come out as well because of something to do with the ink. I am not an expert though but that’s what I heard.

I really don’t think it’s a big deal. I have no reason to be up in arms about this when there are caregivers that beat, humiliate, and torment the children in their care.

I don’t know if I consider this child abuse or not…I kind of don’t think so but then at the same time, the idea of tattooing my child makes me cringe. I’d say it’s more or less just poor taste.

I really don’t think she should go to jail or lose her child over this. I guarantee her daughter is better off at home where her mom loves her and hasn’t neglected or abused her  than in the system where she may not be treated well. I do hope the judge makes Momma Tats take some mandatory parenting classes though. It seems like her decision making skills are not the best.

I think they should let parents be parents and not interfere unless real harm is happeneing to the child. A tattoo is nothing new and its been done for such a long time that I dont know why anyone has a problem with it anymore. There are also ways now that dont require pain to get the tat off. If her daughter wants to get a tat and her mom says yes and as long as shes not in pain then let her do it. Stop interfering in peoples lives. Also who was the asshole who repoted them? I want to beat his/hers ass for being a nosey prick.

I wouldn’t let my 11 year old get any kind of tattoo, but i feel a little better knowing she was at least in agreement with the whole thing. I can honestly believe the mother had no idea about the law, i know a lot of people who have no clue there is such a thing. Here in the state of GA you can’t get a tattoo period until you’re 18. Doesn’t matter if you have parental consent or not. Piercings on the other hand you can, i believe at most body piercing studios as long as you have consent, you can get any piercing at any age. 18 without consent though.