Is our country unhealthy? Yes.
Are a huge percentage of people overweight and obese? Yes.
Do millions of people eat fast food every day and not go to the gym? Mhm.
Does that mean it’s okay to start bullying overweight people until they feel badly enough about themselves that someday, they’ll be spontaneously converted to your line of thinking? No, of course not. And it’s depressing that this is somehow a topic up for debate.
As you’ve likely already heard, a newswoman named Jennifer Livingston was sent an email (from somebody who apparently never watches her show anyway) regarding her weight. In it, the man urges her to drop pounds because she’s somehow a bad role model by being on television. Here’s the video of her response:
First of all, I fully believe in free speech. By all means, say what you want to say without fear of legal repercussions! On the other hand, crying “but free speech!” doesn’t make you not a jerk. Plenty of people who don’t break any laws are still jerks, including this fellah. His patronizing tone and false concern are obvious, and there are few things that make me go “seriously?” more than that whole, “Do it for yourself… because I obviously know what’s best for you despite barely knowing you” spiel.
According to her Twitter, she’s been invited to the Ellen Show to discuss bullying. While I always think it’s important to discuss issues that still exist and need to be changed, however difficult that may be, I think it’s even more significant that a woman who is overweight is able to discuss it publicly. Why? Because right about now, more than a few little girls are about to develop an eating disorder. Not a “healthier diet,” not a For every Honey Boo Boo that seems confident in her appearance regardless of inherent pressure on little girls to be skinny, there are dozens of kids who are either ridiculed or live in fear of being ridiculed for their weight. Seeing an adult, particularly a well-spoken member of the media, who is successful as well as overweight is incredibly important.
Bullying rarely breeds success. Sure, there are plenty of supermodels and celebrities who have stated they were bullied as children, but let’s be honest: how many of bullied kids are going to be supermodels? How many kids in general will end up as supermodels? Bullying doesn’t result in rational thinking; rather than saying, “Hey, those kids called me fat, I think I’ll start eating a balanced diet!” there are an incredible amount of kids who instead think to themselves, “Hey, those kids called me fat, I need to do whatever possible to ensure that never happens again.” I occasionally have heard the argument, “Well, that’s their own faults if they don’t want to make healthy changes.” They’re children. Even if you somehow were rational enough to fully understand everything about everything healthwise as a 10-year-old, not all children are developed enough to do so. Pretending any differently is as unrealistic as it is irresponsible.
Now, teaching people healthy ways to be in shape when they ask it of you is fine by me! But if you were walking down the street and somebody commented on your ears, hair, tattoos or anything else as being a “poor example,” would you be take it so well? Of course not, because it’s rude and unnecessary and none of their damn business how you live your life unless you’re somehow intentionally harming children. Kids can learn healthy eating habits and how to exercise from their parents, teachers, friends, coaches… plenty of places. Just seeing somebody overweight in the public eye doesn’t automatically mean the child will suddenly adopt horrible health habits, just the same as seeing somebody thin won’t automatically make you drop 20 pounds next month; it’s all about how others interpret those images for them. If they’re told “you can only be successful if you’re _____” by their parents, then those images might affect them more; if it’s not a huge concern, it’s much less likely to influence their decisions.
The whole “personal responsibility” thing is great: yes, we all need to take responsibility in some way for how we treat our own bodies. But that means we should all be responsible for how we treat other people, too, and that includes intentionally harming others’ feelings. Plus, the word “personal” should kind of maybe I mean really guys steer us away from making somebody else’s personal responsibility our own responsibility, particularly when our help is not requested.
Plus, and this should go without saying, there are many different reasons people are overweight. Some, because of not eating healthily and not exercising frequently. But sometimes that’s because (A) lots of people are poor (B) good food is frequently expensive (C) working more than one job and also taking care of household does not always leave money, time or energy to focus on your weight. I presently have three jobs as well as still taking classes; in order to maintain my weight due to having zero time to exercise in addition to a medical condition that makes it difficult, I can’t eat very much. I’m just lucky enough to have money to pay for foods that can provide nutrition, but many people aren’t. And then there are medical conditions that make it difficult to lose weight: Hypothyroidism, medicines that lead to weight gain, arthritis, a weak heart, asthma, complex genetics. Obviously some people simply don’t eat well and exercise, but it’s completely unfair to just assume you know the reasons for another person’s body shape without asking (and seriously: would any of us really even ask?).
And yet, we put up with it. We put up with people publicly bullying others over their weights despite it being the last socially acceptable form of physical appearance-based discrimination, and in the media (as well as elsewhere) its typically directed at women. Fat-shaming is just a loophole allowing people to be cruel to others because they’re “looking out for them!”
Am I biased? Definitely, and I will readily admit that. When I was in high school, I had a boyfriend for a while that would subtly imply, then outright state, that I was eating too much, I was too fat and I needed to lose weight “for myself.” It was mainly because he felt it reflected poorly on him, but it made me feel terrible. Really, truly horrible that somebody I thought I loved (well, in that 17-year-old-idealist way or whatever) could tell me how my body needed to look. Was I actually fat? Definitely yes and definitely no by different standards. So did it make me change my habits? You’re damn right it did. Did it make me get healthier? No. It just made me guilty and depressed about every single thing I ate, so I relapsed with my bulimia after about a year of being vom-free. Was that his fault? No, of course not. I chose to do that. However, would I have started throwing up again if he hadn’t berated me about my appearance? Almost certainly not since I was happy, confident and well up until that point. But when somebody hurts you, cuts you really deeply with words, it’s hard to know how to react rationally when their means to and end are so clearly irrational.
People absolutely rushed to Lady Gaga’s defense when certain media outlets called her fat due to gaining some weight, and she was praised for taking a stand against body image critiquing. How is this any different just because this person is overweight? She’s still a human being with feelings, self-esteem, sensitivity… simply because she’s a member of the media lying somewhere on a scale of “Never been on TV once” to “Biggest celebrity in the world” doesn’t mean we shouldn’t defend her, too, and be excited that she took a public stand. If someone’s answer is, “But this woman’s heavier and therefore less healthy, so it’s okay,” then I don’t really know what to say besides bullying still is the absolute least effective way to change a person’s life for the better. It’s not “motivating” anybody; it’s simply being intentionally cruel and excusing the behavior.
Basically, if you don’t wanna read all my upset ranting, this is all I really had to say: shockingly (ahem), bullying is still not okay. It never has been; it never will be. Attempting to coerce somebody into doing what you want them to by being cruel is not all right. It’s ineffective, and even if it weren’t, it’d still be not okay. So regardless of whether you consider her to have been bullied or not, hopefully you can agree that directly insulting a person’s physicality will never be all right. I know this is a heated topic and I will be inclined not argue with anybody because it’s sort of like gay marriage/abortion/etc. (once a person’s mind is made up, it’s almost always like that permanently), but I absolutely want to hear your thoughts!
Also included: a short gallery of various celebrities who have been weight-bullied, whether it was for post-pregnancy weight or otherwise.
Lovelies, what do you think about bullying overweight people?









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I watched the news, and have to admit, she went overboard with her online rant… I am not a size 0, 1, or even 2 like most we watch in media… in fact I’ve noticed news anchors getting bigger to be honest. Don’t really care if they are fat or skinny… but she stooped to the level of the woman who continually emailed her calling her fat by calling her out for all of us to be in their business, we don’t live on the school playground (and mentality displayed), and if in the public eye show professionalism? Leave it to staff, employer, and so forth to block the woman instead of throwing a tantrum on air??? I get she has a personal life, but I don’t care to be involved in it when watching the news. Is she lacking a support system, family, friends, to vent to and prevent her lack of control? Or was it to try and embarrass the rude person who sends emails while getting others to rally around her? Personally I choose the childish aspect since she lost all control and was way off base on the job… even co-workers were stunned, and on air she looked more like she had mental issues while ranting
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I don’t believe bullying people is ever the answer, regardless of reason for doing so. I read an article about that newscaster yesterday. The viewer she received the email from stated that he felt she was a bad influence on young girls because she is heavy. She is right, he doesn’t know her personally or the reasons as to why she is heavy. Instead of worrying about Jennifer Livingston’s weight, he should be encouraging girls around him to eat right and exercise. What is he doing to make sure today’s youth are properly influenced?
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@Rebekka Wilkinson@facebook - I agree, she has embraced herself just as she is–which I think is a good thing. Apparently the viewer who emailed her disagrees.
hydrangea / 58 posts
@Growedup@xanga - As a fat woman, I’d probably look way more retarded while ranting, though she was well within her right to rant. This man did not email her about being bad at a personal issue, but on a professional level, because of her weight. If someone attacks your work, you defend yourself through your work, do you not?
Personally, I think she was brave to stand before all of her viewers and say ‘yes, I’m fat, but you have no room to judge’. It’s something more people need to hear on a daily basis. They need to learn they should look in the mirror and really figure out if they’re perfect and above reproach in every aspect of their life before opening their mouths (or putting fingers to a keyboard) and judging others.
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lol see i think its funny that people are still able to tell somebody “you’re too skinny, go eat a burger” and it be okay, but nobody can say “you’re too fat, go to the gym” kind of a double edged sword is it not? same with people who smoke.
but i mean its great she stood up for herself, wish i did. this society is just a little twisted within itself.
xoxo K
daisy / 626 posts
Such a great post! You hit the nail on the head about bullying. Also, shaming anyone is never the right way to encourage positive change.
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If she was told to “you’re too skinny, go eat a burger” people would laugh and think it was fine, but because she’s being told to lose weight, it’s suddenly vile bullying.
sunflower / 300 posts
@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - @KiraThinMe@xanga - Believe me, I would also consider that vile bullying because it’s still making fun of a person’s body and trying to change it regardless of that persons’s wishes, which isn’t okay. I had friends in high school who were very tall and very thin and people would call them anorexic despite their metabolisms being fast and that really, really used to hurt them. Snarking somebody’s body is just not really ever all right.
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@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - People get to pick and choose what they decide to be offended about. It’s taboo to say anything bad about a Jewish person but alright to bash a Christain… it is alright to pick on a skinny person but taboo to state someone is over weight… list goes on…
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@deadroseawaiting -
I think that people need to stop finding reasons to be offended, this woman ranted like a crazy person over a single person, stooping to their level, and showing a lack of self control. I don’t get why she didn’t block the woman’s email (spam folder is awesome), and if they got to the point since all are on FB to post there they’d be seen for what they are without needing to bully back by bringing it to the public to defend for her (I see her as the same)
I’m not paper thin myself, diet and excersize right now, setting my own goals with rewards for mile stones… but it doesn’t mean I’d rant and rave and over a single person calling me fat… I’d block them if I were in the public eye, report to my employer, and IT department to divert to human resources??? Just because the little voice in the back of your head says to act like a fool doesn’t mean you should… if that were the case I should be allowed to side swipe cars that cut me off in traffic or don’t use a blinker??? The whole thing screams ignorance and a lack of self control
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@Growedup@xanga - First of all, this person who sent the email was a man who is somewhat famous. Not another woman criticizing! I think it’s terrible he did this, and if you read the actual email you’d think it was rude and hateful, too. Reading off of lovelyish gives literally no information. And the guy, btw, never watches the show. He just saw her randomly and decided to hatefully email her. Her husband is also a reporter and was disgusted by the email from the man…regardless of her weight, she’s a smart woman with talent, and from his email, he was suggesting she had no right to have her job! I think this is wrong…and if that’s the shallow case, the Will Ferrell, and many other regular, but funny people wouldn’t have jobs. And from reading your comment, you completely sized up your own experience, instead of trying to see from her point of view. Not to mention that you neglected to read the article to begin with!
sunflower / 300 posts
@Celtic_haven@xanga - I posted the video in its entirety (and did note that the man didn’t watch the show) so I assumed that was context enough. My apologies if you felt it wasn’t.
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@samescobar - Oh, I agree, and I wasn’t saying you thought it was okay. I just meant that, in general, most people would say “oh, telling someone to go eat a burger is okay, but telling them they’re too fat isn’t”.
@Growedup@xanga - oh, of course. Someone out there will ALWAYS get offended. Offence is in your head, after all.
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Ok, first off, I’m saying this as being 5’5” and 170lbs and a large size 16 so I’m not skinny or healthy even but I’m currently working on losing the extra weight. I think that as long as fat people can tell someone they need to eat and are too skinny, skinny/healthy people can say you’re too big. I don’t know the size of the guy who wrote the letter, but I don’t think it was something to get worked up about. It’s not being a good role model to show that a very unhealthy lifestyle is ok. Obesity is a LIFESTYLE. It’s a choice, not something you can’t control. I don’t by into the “I have a disease” excuse either, I know too many people who keep themselves healthy despite thyroid problems, being fat is a choice and we shouldn’t try to tell people “it’s ok to be fat.” That’s just my opinion- if anyone wants to get mad about it, feel free to but it’s also coming from someone who is obese.
hydrangea / 58 posts
@dream_guru5@xanga - so you make the choice to be the size that you are? I don’t buy that. Trust me, if it was my choice, i wouldn’t have to work as hard as I do to lose a single pound. There are diseases and medical conditions that make you rapidly gain weight just like there ones that make you rapidly lose weight.
That doesn’t go to say that there aren’t people who DO choose to be overweight. However, every person is different. You’re working on your weight, good for you. Some people can’t because of physical disabilities. I have a relative that can diet but cannot exercise. She’s lost weight but you’d never know it because of all the extra skin.
I do not like being a large size 14, do diet and exercise daily,and still struggle with my weight because I have health issues that make weight loss extremely difficult.
Part of me wishes I could be cavalier and say “Yep, I’m fat. Don’t like it? Go starve yourself freely and be proud, I’ll stay fat, and we’ll both be happy.” But I can’t because I’m fully aware that I’m unhealthy and need to shed the weight to be healthy again.
This is coming from an obese woman with health issues. Thyroid problems aren’t the only weight gain issue. Do some research.
hydrangea / 58 posts
@Growedup@xanga - You clearly didn’t read the article or watch the video before basing your “opinion” and stating it as fact. If defending yourself when someone personally attacks you, whether it be privately or publicly, is wrong then there have been a lot of major historical events that would be “over reacting” in your eyes.
People need to know it’s not okay to talk down to someone, to put down their life’s work, because of their looks. I wouldn’t say to you “well, your hair color hurts my eyes, you must be bad at your job.” Because what does your hair color or my opinion on it have to do at all with your job? None.
If the man had made the least bit of sense in what he was saying, if HE (I emphasize he because you keep going back to thinking the emails were from some anonymous woman) had been offended by the way she reported the news, it’d be different.
Also your scenario isn’t quite the same. You’re offended by someone not using their blinker? How does that offend you? it might piss you off because that’s retarded, head-in-ass driving but it isn’t a personal attack on you. It’s just carelessness. Sideswiping them would definitely be an over reaction but in relation to what we’re talking about that’s all null and void.
hydrangea / 58 posts
@samescobar - It was very informative. I always enjoy reading your stuff because you do an excellent job at it. Some Lovelyish articles aren’t as well thought out and don’t give the entire information. Some people don’t bother to click links, watch videos, or read the article all the way through before saying something.
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@deadroseawaiting - I didn’t choose to stay this big mentally but went through a lazy stage, I have knee problems and have asthma. I do work out and I’m trying to up my stamina so I can do the hardcore cardio. I just don’t think that we need to teach that being that big is fine. She maybe healthy now, but just give it a few years of not trying to lose some and she will be sick.
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hydrangea / 58 posts
@dream_guru5@xanga - Who says she isn’t trying to lose some? You don’t know the entire situation. Also, no one says being big is fine. That is far from the point. The point is that it is not fine for someone to put down another person’s job and integrity based on their looks. Beauty only goes skin deep and to judge on the outward appearance without knowing the person is both superficial and unfair not to mention the way she looks has nothing to do with ability to do her job. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. People wonder why self esteem issues have become rampant? Because people judge first and question the reasons for what they see later if at all.