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Definitley not…. Animal cruelty anyone?

I never would and anyone that does should not be allowed to have pets.

Why would anyone do that to their pet? 

Animal cruelty.

No!  Poor animals.  Tattoos are examples of self-expression.  The pet cannot consent, and we do not know what it wants to express.

Saving innocent animals from the inhumanity of slaughter does not justify the right to violate their bodies.  If one needs to express himself, he should express himself using his own body and possessions; not his kids’, not his pets’. 

Also, anyone who calls this practice inhumane while chowing down on dead animals is a hypocrite.  duh

The only tattoo I would get for an animal would be one of those identifier tattoos, but that’s it, and I wouldn’t even do that unless the option of a collar/tag or a microchip weren’t an option (for whatever reason).

I would never tattoo my hedgehog. What would be the purpose of putting her through such discomfort and stress?

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - Seriously? We’re omnivores, and humans are certainly nicer about eating animals than carnivores are. We at least wait until something is dead before we start gnawing on it. That certainly doesn’t mean I approve of causing pain, probably itching, possibly panic (and can animals be embarrassed?) for the sake of… ultimately, nothing.
My neighbors raised pigs for food. The only reason those pigs were born was for the sake of being eaten. They had good living conditions and were probably happy with the life they had. Then they were dinner. Ditto with their cows, and my uncles cows, and the pasture up the road, etc.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I’m a hypocrite. So what? 

That’s horrible. At least humans can claim some abstract thought behind it…doing this to your pet is just as disgusting as women who dress their tiny dogs up in frilly outfits and stick them in their oversized bags.

God that cat is hideous.

I think the ASPCA should be called and given the names of these owners.  That is hideously abusive to do to an animal, who has no rights or say in whether it suffers endlessly.  And as far as pigs and other animals being slaughtered for an over weight society, that’s useless as well.

i love my tattoos and i love tattoos on other people but i don’t support tattooing animals. humans have to consent to their tattoos, animals don’t get that option. i just don’t think it’s right.

yeah, my cat had a number tattooed in his ear, in case he got lost. It didn’t help when he did get lost though. Next cat will have a gps router around it’s neck or a microchip.
My cat also got his balls cut off without consent.

I just hope they make their skin numb before doing that to them. I don’t think it’s great at all, but I’ve seen worse things happening to animals, so my main focus won’t be criticizing the small (crazy) group who does this.

Beyond ID purposes, er, yeah, definitely animal cruelty unless they are put under. But even then, I’d imagine (though I never got one) that they’d still be in pain when they came to. Ugh, just no. You can’t just go around tattooing living beings that can’t consent. Would it ever be okay to force a human to be tattooed against their will for “art”? No. So don’t submit an animal to the same thing.

To me, it’s the same as getting your babies’ ears pierced. Neither the animal or the baby has a say in it, it’s painful for them, and it’s just for aesthetic purposes. I’m not married, but if I ever have kids, I want them to be old enough to say if they want their ears pierced. I’m not an animal lover, but animals can’t give their consent at all. 

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I don’t think that is a fair statement because they are not the same thing. Though meat slaughter can (and in an industrially setting, certain does) entail animal cruelty, animal slaughter itself does not need to be inhumane and at least serves a purpose (feeding people). I understand your point of “eating animals is wrong” and I’m not going to argue that point. But someone being against this but okay eating meat does not make them a hypocrite. You can easily believe tattooing a live animal is cruel (and completely senseless and without real purpose) while thinking eating animals is just the natural food chain without the ideas being in conflict with each other.

@VampireOfSeduction@xanga - I’m not sure why you think I’m personally interested in your anecdote, but I’m replying to let you know I’m not.  

@CrisaRei@xanga - I couldn’t care less, but I am flattered that you felt the need to let me, a stranger on the internet, know that.

@Digital_Angel21@xanga - That would be reasonable if it weren’t morally and factually incorrect.  Also I am flattered that my opinion brought out more than a paragraph’s worth of defense in justifying the unjustifiable. 

no, that would be cruel

wow..

this is a bit disturbing.but I guess people have to express their creativity .
i personally wouldnt tat my beautiful doggy. I love her fur and fluffiness.. 

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - yes that’s smart to say, so then people will surely say “I’m going to stop eating animals”. No they’re not. They’re just going to keep their opinions about animals tattooing to themselves, so they can start doing that too. It’s not black and white with most people, like it is with you. Humans working together to stop animal suffering is what were working on, whether you can convince a person to be vegan or not.

And stop being so snarky, do you really think people are going to want to be vegan when you treat them like shit? When they have you to look up to about the issue? It’s not an issue you have to be snarky about, you can act civilized. I mean you make vegans look like stuck up bitches?

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - Actually since we talked last I am vegan. Which was what, a long time ago?

@MyPublicSite@xanga - I wasn’t posting on here to convince anyone of anything, only to express my opinion as so many others have.  Why aren’t you berating them?  I’ve written comments and posts in the past which you yourself have seen that were meant to persuade others. 

Why are you being such a bitch?…  I mean, I guess a strong belief in ethics has to come off as snobbery, when there are so many self-righteous, wishywashy semi-vegetarians like yourself who decide animals deserve to die after all because you can’t be bothered to buy beans for protein instead of meat, and are too ignorant to even know they’re cheaper. 

Anyway, I am pretty sure all relevance to this post is long gone, or was. Thanks for inciting unnecessary drama.  It’s so mature of you.

@MyPublicSite@xanga - I’m glad.  Maybe you should take your time to speak out for the cause instead of berating other vegans for expressing rightful rage towards animal abuse and exploitation.  I think that’d be more worthwhile.

Sure, people are throwing a wall-eyed fit about this but they turn a blind eye to tail docking and ear cropping of dogs. Hypocritical much? 

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I’m not attacking you because you’re vegan, I’m attacking you because you were being a royal bitch towards people on the first page. You can get your point across without being a bitch. It’s possible. Being a bitch makes the entire movement towards taking away the suffering of animals look like a crock of shit.

@secretbeerreporter@xanga - you have a dobie too?

@MyPublicSite@xanga - Recently adopted one from the local shelter. He’s D&C but I couldn’t pass him up. Ever since my other Doberman died at such a young age, I’ve been wanting one very badly. 

http://secretbeerreporter.xanga.com/767434728/trying-again-with-a-doberman/

@MyPublicSite@xanga - I was being blunt and honest about a subject I don’t take lightly. I certainly don’t view you as a model of appropriate behavior or conduct. Your attack was unjustified and petty.  Fuck off.

How did I miss this post?  This is horrendous.  It’s bad enough when people dye their animals, but this is abusive.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - weeee! I love you.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - <3

@VampireOfSeduction@xanga -  “humans are certainly nicer about eating animals than carnivores are”
Not true. The farm you mentioned sounds legit. But 99% of all farmed animals raised and slaughtered in the United States come from factory farms. (dept of agric) If you knew anything about the conditions in factory farms you would not have stated the above.
A pig, for example, does not even have the room to turn around in her gestation crate. That’s like being strapped in an airplane seat for your entire life unable to shift positions. Pigs are highly intelligent creatures, even more so than toddlers. Even more so than your dog. Their tails are ripped from their bodies without anesthetic. What goes on is pure torture. Then, slaughter.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - I don’t eat pigs anymore. 

Admittedly, I can not bring myself to become a total vegetarian, but I eat less and less meat all the time. 

I am not sure that I always agree with what peta is presenting, or other animal activist groups, BUT, I want to thank them (and people like you) for opening up my eyes to a lot of what goes on. 

For this reason, I now eat LESS meat. I eat less beef, I no longer eat pork or shellfish, and am working towards figuring out alternative solutions. As well as trying to figure out how to treat animals better. 

I have the same rule for tattoos on my pet as I do my kid: They can have tattoos when they’re 37, have jobs and pay for them themselves.

@LKJSlain@xanga - Kudos to you.  You deserve a pat on the back for making such a huge change.  It’s definitely not an easy thing to do, especially in this culture.  You are awesome!

@LKJSlain@xanga - And this is why I love you! =) I started out just as you are now: eating less and less. Cutting out meats one by one. The more info I got the more horrified I became. I do have a long way to go, though. For example, I take organic fish oil as prescribed by the doctor. This would indeed make me a hypocrite.
With regards to PETA – yep they are insane! But it’s a good thing when “normal” people (well somewhat normal) like me join. We help to make them more mainstream. And they actually do have a great list of victories and accomplishments despite the marketing tactics.
I’m proud of you. And I thank you!

@blonde_apocalypse@xanga - hahaaaa! Awesome.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - I eat meat, always will.  I believe humans are inherently carnivores (the reason our eyes are on the front of our heads, the reason our teeth are sharp and pointed rather than flat and grinding.)  But I eat almost exclusively wild meat or animals I’ve raised myself (even though it’s hard to eat an animal after you’ve bottle fed it.)  This is why, along with the obvious health benefits of not eating animals that live 24/7 in their own filth.

@blonde_apocalypse@xanga - I got no BEEF with you fine lady. I do have issues with the meat industry which treats animals like they are pieces of machinery. I am constantly giving out the certifiedhumane.org website to those who are unwilling to give up meat. It lists local farms which allow animals to live in their natural state and then slaughtered humanely.
Personally? I don’t want to eat the stuff. I’d rather enjoy them alive and frolicking.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - I was more referring to the eating them alive part. “Eating” having been the key word, there. I’ll spare you the details because I didn’t even want to know. Young raccoons… shooting them was the nice thing to do.
The fact that some places aren’t nice to their animals isn’t a call to avoid meat, it just means we have to give them better conditions, and should be more selective about where we get our meat. You can also make it a point to get certain meats wild caught if that’s your preference, though we’re overfishing certain spots/types of fish, or you can even go hunting or fishing, depending where you live (as a plural, general “you”). Now, we do boycott veal (even though my husband thinks it’s yummy) because I’m assuming they’re always cruel conditions, because it’s the cruel conditions that make the meat what people want it to be.
Honestly, the farms (mostly cattle) I’m familiar with all seem to have good conditions. There are even “cow crossings” where they move the cows from one field to another so as to give them fresh grass, and the fields are huge. To be fair, I’m not sure how many of these are dairy vs. meat farms, and I’ll admit that my area could possibly be a misrepresentation of the industry.

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