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I haven’t eaten there since I found out what was going on. The only thing I miss are the waffle fries.

Damn, I wish I had a same sex person to kiss.

I will be eating there August 1st, and probably many days before/afterward.

I think it is ridiculous to boycott a company just because you disagree with them on political issues. There are so many companies that support ideas that I disagree with it, but I don’t boycott them. If you can’t stomach disagreement, then you probably don’t belong in America.

@Jenny_Wren@xanga -  I agree. 

As long as people aren’t clones of one another there will be differences of opinions and beliefs. There will be disagreements. Get over it and move on. 
And I just want to put this out there, I hate their waffle fries. Out of the 3 chicken fast food places I visit, Chic-fil-a, Cane’s, and Pop-eye’s, only Pop-eye’s knows how to produce good fries. 

@Jenny_Wren@xanga - Thank you!

This is completely stupid and childish. Learn to agree to disagree, people. Get over it. Everyone has different beliefs and values. God forbid someone speaks their mind.. stupid… •__•

I would never eat there. People can say it’s “childish”, but I’m bisexual and I might want to marry a woman some day – why would I support a company whose profits are directly trying to stop that happening?!

@Jenny_Wren@xanga - totally agree 

if anything, i’ll eat there even more

I think people should just…not eat there? I don’t understand how kissing someone at a Chick-fil-a really makes a difference. The problem isn’t that Chik-fil-a won’t serve their food to gay people, but that they donate profits to organizations that people don’t like. You can’t tell a business where to donate their money and what causes to support. It’s not like the actual business practices of Chick-fil-a are the issue. YOUR money is going somewhere you don’t want it to. So don’t give them your money.

I support gay marriage and totally disagree with the CEO, but it gets to a point where all you are doing is being annoying and not actually changing anything.

@Jenny_Wren@xanga - If the boycott was as simple as, “well, the CEO has an opinion I don’t agree with”, then I suppose a boycott might not make sense. I think it makes sense though, to not give your money to a business who uses profits to support things you disagree with (in effect, boycotting them I guess). Not because doing so is going to change the company and what they do with their money, but because it means you are deciding not to let your money support something you don’t support. I think it is just part of being a responsible and aware consumer.

I agree that any business has the right to its own political/endorsement views, but I refuse to let them use my hard-earned money to marginalize a percent of the world’s population. If the head of the company feels compelled to use the company as a platform to criticize same-sex relationships, then it seems logical that I, as a lesbian, would not feel WELCOME buying their artery-clogging merchandise. Thanks, Dan Cathy, for giving me ONE MORE reason to abstain from buying your grease-laden “food.”

I don’t think it’s childish. I think it’s kind of funny. Like saying, “You hate gays so much? Here- have a bunch of em!” I mean, there are a million & one companies out there to donate to; why donate to an entire group who is specifically anti-gay? So I can see why people would want to boycott them. I mean, it’s not like you’re depriving yourself of an incredible necessity to prove a point. If it’s childish to stand up for what you believe in then alright, I’ll gladly be a child.

I have no problem with business deals being broken and people not eating there if the company’s position bothers them. This is called voting with your money, and I’m a big fan of it. 

But photoshopping Westboro Baptist Church signs on their cows? Going into their store purposely to make out? What will this accomplish? Other than the participants looking like idiots and making the poor cashiers uncomfortable. That’s just trying to piss people off. It’s childish and stupid. I can’t say enough bad things about this idea. Believe it or not, even people who are opposed to homosexuality have the right to back up that belief with money. Staging an event purposely to make them mad isn’t going to help anything. It will only make them hold on harder to their position, and give them real reason to be angry. 

It’s easy to call it childish when you are heterosexual and not affected by the organizations they support. Your rights aren’t being lobbied against and fought against tooth-and-nail by elected officials that these organizations have in their pockets. So no, it’s not childish and anyone who thinks so obviously doesn’t understand what it’s like to be constantly told you are less than because some people believe that an invisible man in the sky may or may not be okay with you. It’s funny because the same arguments against these boycotts can be used when the civil rights movement was going on and the womens right to vote was a question but of course

no one

here would argue those were “childish”.

@Jenny_Wren@xanga - I respecfully disagree. The company can’t stomach gay marriage, so they are giving to organizations created to fight against it.

Boycotting something means that you are being an aware consumer and choosing not to support certain organizations.

Both an immature and ultimately ineffective idea. PDA of any variety when people are eating induces many to the point of uncomfortableness, but why take it out on innocent bystanders?

All this should come as no real surprise from CFA; they tend to take strong stands [closed Sundays, anyone?], with determined resolve in spite of the likely risks of damage to profit/image. Other companies who come out [excuse the pun] with pro-homosexual stands get their own dose of backlash just the same. Not the best for business, either way, in my opinion–but their right to do or not as they please.

Rally with your $ behind the companies of which you resonate with their stances & boycott the companies you feel that strongly against areas they support, if you truly want to make an impact and maintain respect in your agenda. If one resorts to petty measures such as this in attempts to get one’s point across, one merely reveals something regarding one’s own character…

When you walk in the door, there’s a sign that basically says “We were founded upon Christian values”. Of course they’re going to be against homosexuality. Boycotting doesn’t really do anything anyway… There are SO many other people who do eat there (At least at the ones where I live) 

My sorority refuses to do car washes/fundraisers there because of that, though. However, It doesn’t stop me from eating there; and If I had a girl to kiss, I’d probably take part too, just because.

it’s childish and extremely immature to plan something like this. you think it’s going to change their mind? you think it’s “sticking it to him”? you’re ridiculous. people participating in this get all butt hurt over others being against gay marriage and these people just want to be respected for what they believe in but they can’t show respect for those who have different beliefs? hypocrites! 

it’s dumb. it’s not THAT big of a deal. if you don’t agree with chickfila’s beliefs then don’t eat there. but don’t expect kissing someone of the same sex at chickfila to do any good. it just makes you look immature. 

Childish that people can’t handle one company’s opinion, and trashy that people would do PDA in front of other customers and the employees because of their immaturity. I shop at places that probably give to causes I don’t agree with, because if I try and find a place that agrees with me about everything, I’ll have to plant my own garden and only eat from it. And a sewing machine to make my own clothes. People should just get over it. Chick-Fil-A is not banning gay people from eating there. They can express an opinion if they want and do what they want with their money.

I bet some of their chickens are gay. Come to think of it, those two cows on their signs sure seem pretty damn chummy!

This won’t accomplish anything. It is seriously a waste of time. This will only probably deepen their CEO’s belief system. There are so many companies out there that can be labled “anti-gay” that you probably don’t realize. So don’t think just because you protest at a Chik-fil-a that everything is gonna be all rainbows and sunshine (pardon the pun). The Establishment Clause of the Bill of Rights recognizes that the government cannot establish an official religion in the states. So therefore, companies founded with religious beliefs can donate their profits how they see fit. They have the same rights as you when it comes to freedom of speech. You can rant all you want about how Chik-fil-a is anti-gay and blah blah blah. And they can tell you to shove it if they want to. They do not have to defend themselves and it’s nice to have a company that doesn’t release a whole PR campaign because they offended someone over something stupid.

First of all, I don’t really think this topic has a place on Lovelyish. And second of all, MOST of the people that have already posted above are right – Chick-Fil-A has always been upfront about their ties to Christianity. Most Christians (at least those who actually read the Bible) are against homosexuality. I’m not sure why this surprises anyone. People are free to have their own opinions about things. Most organizations today have made a political statement, and it’s sad to say that most organizations tend to veer in the direction of support of gay-marriage so they don’t get heat from the public. I, personally, am very proud of Chick-Fil-A for having the guts to say something against the “politically correct” view.

@Lynn Males@facebook - If you’d like to say something, refrain from swearing. It makes you sound very unintelligent because you can’t think of anything better to say. See, here in America, we have something called freedom of religion and freedom of speech, and it allows people to say what they’d like to say without getting in trouble for it. If someone is a Christian, that means they should be allowed to say their stance on an issue instead of just allowing everyone else to shove THEIR opinions down their throats.

I boycotted Chick-Fil-A 6 years ago and will continue to do so.
And good on Jim Henson!

So, basically, the entire thinking here is this:

“We encourage diversity and inclusiveness UNLESS you do not think like US! In THAT case, we EXCLUDE you. And also we will try to make people hate you by lying about you (equating them with Westboro) and exaggerate and twist your stance, to change your message.” 

You ask, “For every dollar a person gives to this corporation, where do those dollars end up and how could it affect a strong population?”

I hope people are still able to think for themselves and decide on this matter for themselves. I would also think that a position that were just would not have to photoshop trademarks with signs from a group everyone hates, just to get people to agree with them. And, since you know these people think of this as a sin, and you want to be respected, the blatant disrespect for their beliefs with the “kissing day” is very childish and not very compelling for your case. 

INDIVIDUALS have the right to boycott anything they think is wrong. A Mayer making that choice for the whole town just tells me that the whole town must not feel that way because if it did, the store would have to go out of business from lack of customers. When the Southern Baptist Convention boycotted Disney over that gay day thing, they didn’t have to get mayers to enforce it or advertisement sponsors to pull the sponsorship, but stock went down 18%, and Disney made “The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe” to win them back. 

They honestly won’t care XD… 

They have a stance. It doesn’t mean that they have ever kicked someone out for kissing, or turned them out of their restaurant for being GAY…

This is so pointless. 

HAHAHAHA

I honestly think it’s hilarious that so many people get riled up over someone’s “STANCE”… I have had people do things to me as a Christian and I’ve never ever ever ever ever reacted in such a childish way. 

Thing about it… I go into a place run by atheists, but they hate Christians… am I going to run into their store and start preaching the Gospel, or retaliate by walking around their store/restaurant with a group of my buddies all wearing shirts with scriptures about hell on it? 

NO!!! What will that accomplish? NOTHING! 

This is like something that children do. “You don’t like me? Well, WHA WHA WHA I’mma poopy on you and never be your fwiend again.” 

Grow up on ALL Sides. 

Even if Chick Fil A HATED gay people (which they don’t) they have NO sway on the gay marriage vote. Get over it.If gay marriage doesn’t pass it won’t be because of “chick fil a” In fact, the facts about who actually votes AGAINST gay marriage might surprise you. 

Personally, I believe the government should stay out of marriage/get out of it altogether, and then anyone could say they were married and people could still have opinions about it one way or another. 

If you don’t like their stance, don’t eat there! You can’t FORCE the restaurant to “vote on same sex marriage” if they’ve chosen not to, and doing this isn’t going to accomplish anything except make everyone face palm.

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - You do know that many many many more people out there do NOT support gay marriage, they’re just not as vocal about it. You probably support several of them. In fact, a lot of people lie about their stances on gay marriage because of fear of these types of things/wars/and backlashes. I’ve actually talked to several of them 

Not to mention that a corporation will NOT be the reasons that gay marriage doesn’t pass, since they’re like.. ya know… .0000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent of the population. 

@Awake_My_Soul420@xanga - They don’t HATE gays… in fact, there have been gay people who’ve WORKED for chick fil a… They simply support traditional marriage. There’s a MAJOR difference and I wish people would get that. 

@LKJSlain@xanga - I don’t give a shit either way. I was simply making a statement but thanks for attacking me just because I used a word you don’t like.

I’ve never been there, and I certainly wouldn’t go there after hearing their “politics”. (IDK how better to phrase it.)
Too many “Christians” give the rest a bad name. They’re not all douchebags, I swear.

@Awake_My_Soul420@xanga -  I’m not attacking you at all. I’m making a statement. Again, there’s a huge difference. 

Freedom of expression goes both ways.  The CEO can make his statement, the boycotters can make their statement.  It makes me laugh to see both sides accusing the other of doing the exact same thing their side is doing.

This post may make me sound as though I’m against gay marriage, but I am not…I’m pretty libertarian in that I believe in less regulation in both the conservative and liberal sense (meaning gay marriage should be legal, but there should be less regulation in business and people can be anti-gay all they want without constant fear of lawsuits).

Presidents of companies have a wide variety of political opinions. Duh. To say that Chick-Fil-A discriminates against gays is incorrect, and to alter their “eat more chicken” cows to say God Hates Fags is pretty much a thoughtless and ignorant knee-jerk reaction.

They provide chicken. They don’t discriminate against anyone, because discriminating against someone would mean that they don’t provide chicken to someone. They have no power in deciding whether or not gay people can get married, no matter how much money they donate to organizations. Also, I suggest people research these organizations. They may be opinionated (oh my god, freak out) but it would be important to understand what they actually do.

So are business owners supposed to have absolutely no personal thoughts or feelings? Are they wrong for choosing to donate to organizations that share identical beliefs? I disagree with his quote regarding our generation…it seems pompous to me. But I do think our generation is arrogant as well as ignorant in how we literally BEG for an overpowering, over-regulating system in the marketplace in the name of not offending any poor damn soul. Let it happen, people, and then bang your heads against the wall wondering why. You can thank the mayor who has banned the company for their religious beliefs, first.

On another note, there is Chick-Fil-A in the north? Wow.

@LKJSlain@xanga - Statement was still pretty aggressive. Again- don’t give a flying fuck.

@Awake_My_Soul420@xanga - Obviously you do give a flying fuck and a shit otherwise you wouldn’t have said anything to begin with. 

If you note, the beginning of my statement was to a “general” and the end was as well. I was certainly not attacking you. I was passionately making a statement. 

Either which way, I’m not trying to fight with you, seriously. I hope you have a good night.

I’m all for treating people fairly, so this in-your-face protest is wrong, mean, disrespectful, and unfair.

Most of us are heterosexual, and if we tolerate gays it is because they are people too — it is not that we agree with their choice, but that we know gays should be treated with dignity.. a dignity that comes from God.  We are all God’s children.

This stunt makes gay people look bad.

This is proof that gay rights is not about tolerance but about forcing sodomy down everyone’s throat (pardon the pun).

@waggishremarks@xanga - That goes both ways. If christians want to continue to enjoy free speech in this country, you also have to accept that occasionally something will be said that you don’t like.

Christianity has permeated our culture. We are inundated with it. Soaked to saturation. We hear you, believe me.

The other side wants to be heard too. If that’s ‘shoving something down your throat’ imagine how the rest of us feel.

@Lynn Males@facebook - Again, you’re throwing non-abrahamic religions under the bus with the fundies. I’m Pagan and support the same causes you do. Not everyone with a type of religious belief is anti-everything. Nor are we attempting to use our religion to control others or hurt or exclude them.

This is not a black or white issue. There is no simple ‘abrahamic vs. atheists’ thing going on here. There are a lot of different faiths that do not seek to control or harm.

Hhmm… So if I dress up as a chick, I could probably get some play there on that day?
I’m in.

@ZombieMom_Speaks@xanga - 

Actually, most people don’t consider our “religion” to be a religion, but just a spiritual path.  I actually asked some very loud-mouthed, annoying atheists on an advice site why they target Christians and leave Pagans/Wiccans/Poly-theists out and they said because it’s such a crazy, insane belief they don’t consider it valid. 

For one thing, in all honesty, no company should ever list their political beliefs, or extreme religious beliefs either, because it will cause people to take offense. I do not think I could eat their anymore. Being religious is one thing, but outwardly stating your opinions about someone else’s LOVE life is just wrong. 

I can’t find the Cathy quote where he said they were AGAINST anything. I read where he said they were FOR the traditional family. Also, can you provide statistics on the effectiveness of the boycott? Chick-Fil-A’s near me have been packed out since last week. . . except for Sunday (of course).

@IntoTheWind1@xanga - Dooooo it. Take pics. =)

Chickens are decent people…

@dream_guru5@xanga - You’re right. It has always been a balance of both to me, but that’s just my opinion. The United Nations accepts Wicca and other forms of Paganism (under a blanket heading, of course) as a religion but since many forms of Paganism don’t have a structured outline in regard to rules one must follow and practices one must partake in, it also definitely qualifies as a spiritual path. To me, the two terms have always been interchangeable in regard to Pagan beliefs and practices.

I’m sorry you’ve run into some nasty atheists. Most of the ones I’ve met have been awesome people and very accepting of us. Every group has it’s jerks, though.

@dream_guru5@xanga - I once had a friend ask me why not just be nature-loving atheist. A lot of people just don’t understand pagan faiths. I’m always surprised when people reach out and ask me about my religion, and I appreciate they are trying to understand it.

I feel like the teens and twenty somethings working at all those Chik-Fil-A’s won’t really give a shit about who is kissing there. Its the company COO who has a problem with the LGBT community, not the individual workers and hired labor, so why bother?

As a bisexual woman, and someone who never ate at Chik-Fil-A, I’m perfectly content with not eating there. @daydreams_nightmares@xanga definitely said it best for me.

So lame. I love Chick Fila and I’m okay that the fact that they are Christian and believe what they believe. There are plenty of places that support gay rights and I shop there, even though I’m a Christian and disagree. Lol, oh well, I don’t see CFA having less long lines. Most people are aware of the Company’s stance and have been for a while. Just like Hobby Lobby, another place many people love and spend their money at.

@LKJSlain@xanga - yeah, I know that, but I can still choose not to shop there. I don’t see why people are getting so offended about people boycotting Chick-Fil-A, but those same people think it’s totally acceptable for some Christians to boycott JC Penneys because they featured gay marriage in their catalogues, or Starbucks because they support gay marriage. What’s the difference?

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - There isn’t one, and if you choose not to shop there, that’s TOTALLY your business ^_^ 

I do think however that its either rude or unconstitutional to do anything else. I think respect is the key word in all of this.

@LKJSlain@xanga - ah, I gotcha yeah I don’t agree with this kissing thing, I think it’s all pretty immature.

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - Definitely. Everyone should have the right to believe and vote however they want in this country without the fear of backlash, war or immature behavior. If you’re gay, and it offends you, merely don’t support them, and try to be kind, respectful. 

I think that’s really the only way we’re going to be able to all live on this earth.

So, homophobes from every corner are now going to Chick-fil-A for dinner and a show?  How does that hurt their bottom line?  If hurting their business is the goal, bringing in 20 people to eat there seems kind of crazy.  A protest would be better in front of the store, without supporting the very business you disagree with, and who knows?  Maybe they’ll retract their views when their wallet is lighter?  It worked to get a retraction from Burger King who made a public statement in support of abortion rights, and it worked within a week.