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In all honesty, I think just because he’s making “rape” jokes does not mean that rape is going to become tolerable. That’s a fallacy if I’ve ever heard one. It’s called “slippery-slope” to be exact. It means that just because he made this joke it’s automatically going to make rape tolerable. You’re taking that way to the extreme. He’s an offensive comedian and he doesn’t leave anyone unoffended. That’s just who he is as a comedian and apparently as a person. People shouldn’t be making such a big deal out of something that comes out of a comedian’s mouth because obviously they’re hardly ever serious. For people to continue to make such a big deal out of it, it’s just going to add fuel the fire and he’s going to keep on making the jokes. 

The same reason why anyone makes rape jokes.

Because he’s an asshole.

More than one side to this story. Besides, how credible is a “friend” of some anonymous woman on Tumblr?

Personally I feel there is a very big difference between someone (Tosh) suggesting someone’s displeasure at something bad happening to them before (rape) and him actively trying to incite violence against them.

This woman was actually there to see Dane Cook. She claims to not have had any idea who Daniel Tosh was prior to that night.That aside, how the hell did she not know that if you’re at a comedy club, talking to the comic (such as suggesting that rape not be discussed) usually results in the comic responding back. In this case, Tosh did so with a joke and it fell flat, apparently. That said, if you want some nice, unoffensive comedy, check out Jeff Dunham or, well, Dane Cook.

I just don’t get the big deal over this. Many before Tosh have made rape jokes. Even Dave Chappelle, one of my favorite comedians.

Breaking news: Someone is offended by something, somewhere. Someone who accepts apologies from manager and comped tickets, yet still has anonymous “friend” spreading hype about shit on Tumblr, where people will reblog anything without checking for credibility. -__-

PUBLICITY!

this might be the dumbest thing i’ve ever read.  being able to tell jokes about something doesn’t make that “something” more socially acceptable.  and anyone who gets their social cues from a stand-up comedian is probably an already-fucked-up individual.  

also… no offense to anyone who has been sexually assaulted or raped…. but that’s your problem, not mine.    i’ll continue to enjoy Tosh, because he’s one of my favorite comedians.  if it offends you, that’s your decision.  but you don’t get to determine what’s tolerable for the rest of us.  if you’re that upset about sex crimes not being taken seriously, here are two fixes: punishment for anyone who falsely claims assault or rape, and harsher sentencing for any rapists found guilty.  neither of those things are going to be accomplished by bitching about Daniel Tosh, or getting rid of rape jokes.   

To get people talking. And hey, it’s worked. People love to be offended.

…because he’s a comedian? The question is WHY do people even care?

Where is @DearRicky when you need him?

I think people don’t realize just how much we are affected by mass media. It’s one of the institutions that dictate what a social norm is. When someone with as much power (meaning, the ability to be heard and talked about) as Daniel Tosh normalizes rape, many people that will never be directly effected by rape ( his demographic is mostly teen/young adult males, and the fact of the matter is women are statistically more often a victim of rape) will think it’s okay to make light of something horrifically traumatizing. People forget that rape culture is a real thing and permissiveness about rape jokes perpetuates it. 

He is not funny.

There, I said it. I am also going to say one more thing. . .
Don’t know him. Don’t really care. Now, can we go back to the consensual sex jokes? (they are pretty funny!)

Actually, a large percentage of us are laughing at how predictably easy it was for Tosh to make puppets out of a gullible audience. Dance monkeys dance. I seems to have stopped laughing long enough to catch my breath here.

Because Tosh is a hack, that’s why.

I personally think he’s hilarious.  He jokes about a lot of offensive things, but they’re just that, jokes.  I think if he’s comedy isn’t you flavor, don’t watch his shows or go to his stand up.

Some of the funniest jokes are the most offensive ones. You just have to set it up right, and that’s really hard to do. Louis CK did one a while back and it was fucking HILARIOUS!! Obviously rape isn’t funny, and all rapists should have acid poured on their genitals and spend an eternity in prison getting their asses handed to them, but there’s a difference between a joke and reality, and if you can’t recognize that, then you shouldn’t be going to see a comedy show anyway. Because most of the good comedians are offensive.

http://jezebel.com/5925186/how-to-make-a-rape-joke

That is the best article I’ve read on this whole thing. The point being, you can make rape jokes, but it’s pretty messed up to make rape jokes with the victim being the butt of the joke. THAT is what encourages tolerable rape culture, when you are laughing at the people being raped.

@gettin_skinnay@xanga - The article I posted actually brings up Louis CK and how it’s different when he made a rape joke.

Why don’t you go after the Catholic Church? I’m pretty sure they have a far bigger impact than a fuckin comedian.

@Digital_Angel21@xanga -  That is EXACTLY what I was trying to say (just written way more intelligently.) Everyone should read that article.

I don’t even find his show, Tosh.0 to be funny. I actually don’t like RWJ for that matter, getting fame for spreading viral videos, boosting their okay talent to even further recognition, rather than working on their own bits.

I understand the appeal in comedians like this, but even rape jokes are old. Come up with some wittier humor, or at least deliver old humor in a different way.

Although “rape” probably wasn’t the comeback he should have used, hecklers do deserve this kind of treatment. Last time i checked, these performers are human and shouldn’t have to give a “politician response” to someone disrupting what they love to do.

What i’m more worried about is if she’ll sue and win. If she does, there will be alot more heckling at performances in the future. 

People are entirely too sensitive.

There’s nothing funny about rape.  Shameful anyone would even defend a rape joke.

Sounds shit.

“a young talking bear named Molloy, is in fact raped by a man who lures him into his trailer with the promise of junk food.” 

Sounds like a South Park rip-off.

I’ve never even heard of him. I bet he’s American and loud. Yeah I just watched a clip, all I can hear is “YA YA YA YA YA”… bring me some earplugs! I like subtle humour, satire, clever humour, not just some loud-mouth shouting about rape. 

Not my thing.

as long as he’s an equal opportunity offenderl, it’s fine by me

just like it’s okay for me to make fun of black/white people, as long as I make fun of asians/chinese

Because people will laugh at anything, the worse it is, the better. 

I don’t like most comedians because their stuff is stupid and offensive. Usually racist. For some reason, all is forgiven if they can make you laugh. 

“The comedian called out a female heckler by suggesting how funny it would be if she were gang-raped” emphasis on HECKLER.

“Trivializing rape can lead to rape apologists and tolerable rape culture” Plenty of comedians before Daniel Tosh have made rape jokes…I’m pretty sure rape is still a heinous crime that people don’t tolerate.

Obviously rape isn’t funny. We all knows this. He’s a comedian and made a daring joke. Just because a comedian jokes about something doesn’t mean they promote or support it. If people are offended by a joke, then it’s their prerogative to feel some type of way about it. But calling the comedian out will not help the situation because they will embarass you….they make jokes for a living.

if you’ve ever watched his show, you’ll know that he literally makes fun of everyone: handicapped people, people with intellectual disabilities, whites, latinos, blacks, women, men.. literally everyone. the point of the show is to be offended.

also, if the show isn’t what you like, stop watching. it’s for a certain brand of people and it’s not trying to reach everyone. if you don’t like it, turn it off. if you don’t like rape and want to throw stats at us about how only 3% of rapists ever spend a day in jail, it sounds like you could be doing a lot more good somewhere else instead of writing a xanga post about daniel tosh. that’s not gonna do much.

People who agree this is ok have obviously never experienced the horrorific crime first hand. Rape is not funny & no matter hard you try you never forget it & you never forget that person. Infact Ive thought many times about how to find him & kill him. Rape should never ever be part of a joke. Imagine how disgusting it is to have a sicko controling you & taking something that does not belong to him?!?! Imagine that. He should have his ass kicked for saying this. The last thing these pervs need is a support group.

No I don’t find him funny. Not only because @winterEnds@xanga - is entirely right,  but because it is lame to say things that OBVIOUSLY will offend people. I don’t know how people can find that funny.

I entirely agree with you.

Never watched him. Never will.

@Including_Sunshine@xanga -  I’m glad that people watch it and SPEAK OUT against it.

I hadn’t liked his comedy before because he seemed to be an asshole.  His recent behavior only confirms this.  I will continue to not give him my money or my time, and look down on people who do.

@At_Sixes_And_Sevens@xanga - it’s not much of a secret.  many of his jokes imply that he’s gay.  

That’s Tosh’s catch, he’s extremely inappropriate. Turn off the tube if you don’t want to listen to it, but it’s apparent nobody is going to do anything to censor him, and why should they?

Its ridiculous the responses are. Nobody is watching him that doesnt want to watch him!! Obviously. the shit was in the news. Nobody expects anyone who has not experienced the situation to understand. The females who respond to this and support him you guys are really nuts. Really. Good luck with supporting a scumbag. And the last thing you ever need to say to a victim is that they are being too sensitive. Get your heads on straight ladies. We are women who need to support each other and be there for each other. Not against each other. There are women who have killed themselves over having been raped or have had to live with the trauma. Women can’t walk down the street without a man looking at her or even go to work. A woman can’t dress pretty the way she likes without a man making it someway about him. So many women are blamed everyday that its their fault things like this happen. A lot of women are scared to come forward about things like this because of judgement or people not believing or even death threats. Get your heads straight. 

Seriously???? You can eithermake fun of everything or nothing. People only complain when the jokes on them. It’s like that movie Ted which got bashed for using a Lou Gehrig’s disease joke. The best part was that the people mad at  Seth Macfarlane said they were big fans of his work. Clearly they don’t know his work or they chose to ignore how offensive it is. I don’t even like Tosh or Macfarlane, but this is just ridiculous.

Tosh is a comedian.  Don’t like what he’s saying?  Ignore him.  Afraid of rapists?  Get a CCL, a tazer, mace, etc.  Take control of your own life, and stop trying to control what other people choose to joke about.

Furthermore, people joke about things which are disturbing.  It is psychologically necessary for some people to do this — they need to do it in order to not be mentally overwhelmed by the darker aspects of reality.  If you can laugh about something, then you can survive it.  Laughing about some thing doesn’t make it ok — but it does make it something that you can cope with.  If you can’t understand that, then just leave it alone.
@Saridactyl@xanga - Exactly.

@winterEnds@xanga - See above.  Less so on the controlling.  More so on the self-empowering.

@wretched_epiphany@xanga - Well said.

@TiredSoVeryTired@xanga - See above.

@Niiksknox@xanga - Yes.

because he’s an insecure little turd who can’t get a woman to have consensual sex with him so he has to resort to rape and rape jokes. i’m sick of guys like him and people who laugh at these “jokes”. RAPE IS NOT FUNNY. END OF STORY.

never found this asshole funny in the first place.

I’ve been raped – once by a guy from my church and once from my former fiance. (Yes, it can happen)
Daniel Tosh’s rape jokes are STILL fucking funny.

If people can’t find rape jokes funny, then they need to get a sense of humor.

Thank you to everyone for the responses. I’d like to clarify that this is a blog post, not some mandate etched in stone that tells you how to feel. I am by no means determining what you should think. This is simply my interpretation of a current issue and how it applies to rape culture.

I’d also like to point out that if you are incensed by my post and think I should just turn off my TV and ignore it, then please sense the irony of commenting on the post with such vitriol. Thanks!

@fantaiesiesombre@xanga - I’m truly sorry about your experiences. Every victim deals with the aftermath differently. There is no “right” sense of humor – I laugh at things completely opposite of what my sister finds funny, but that doesn’t mean she has no sense of humor. 

Every human is different and this is why controversy exists, so we might as well discuss it and not completely rule others’ opinions out.

@Digital_Angel21@xanga - I was seriously considering citing this post! Lindy West is my favorite Jezebel writer. She’s able to inject humor into some well-written and serious articles.

I have noticed quite a few people here saying things along the lines of — rape is NOT funny, the act of rape is horrible etc. but right after it, it’s all about how Tosh made a ‘joke’ of rape which means it’s cool because it was a JOKE haha & that doesn’t mean he’s advocating for it. 

Let me understand this..it sickens people to think of a person being raped against their will, brutalized & suffer PTSD & live with scars emotional & sometimes even physical for the rest of their lives – yet we can all enjoy a good joke about the brutality of such a crime?? Because you know, the thought of it happening to someone is hillllarious, but the actual act of it isn’t??
I’m sorry but what planet do some of you people live on?? Some jokes aren’t funny, some jokes shouldn’t be said & yes, I am aware if you heckle a comedian you will get called out in some fashion — but to be told you should be gang-raped is beyond crude & oversteps dramatically from being a funny offensive to plain offensive. As for some of you who have actually said “it’s not my problem if you were raped” well good for fucking you that you haven’t suffered such an attack or known a close friend or family member who has — but have some respect for the fact that people HAVE been victims or known people who have been victims. In other words..sure, it doesn’t affect you..but there’s no need to be blunt about it in that manner. That’s disgusting. Also, making jokes like that..does indeed downplay rape. Tosh may not be a rapist or advocate for rape, but to make jokes & act like it’s no big deal does bear consequence. Rape victims have a hard enough time coming forward let alone prosecuting their case..the mass media doesn’t need to throw their “funny” two-cents in it by making light of a painful & sometimes deadly situation. 
Rape is not funny, it has never been funny. I don’t care who you are or what you do for a living, telling someone to get raped is NOT A JOKE. There is never a reason to justify that. 

Here’s the thing about Tosh; he’s a complete and utter idiot. He has no good material. The guy’s brain never developed past ten years old, just learned a little more vocabulary. He’s not funny. He wasn’t funny before he discovered rape jokes, and he’s not funny now. The only reason he’s got any fans at all is because there are a considerable amount of morons in the world, and apparently, most of them have cable. I hate his show and I hate that what he does can pass for comedy by any stretch of a very twisted and stunted imagination. He’s either just stupid and mean or he’s very deeply disturbed and mean. I think it won’t just be Daniel Tosh that leads the way to desensitizing people towards rape. There’s people like Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Seth McFarlane who seem to make it their life’s goal to just generally make the world a more ignorant, desensitized place. I can see the humor in a lot of things, but there are some topics I really believe should just be off-limits. There are things in this world that will never be funny. Rape is one of them.

@leslie - I will say with all honesty that those instances didn’t come with no price. I suffered mental hell for years because of it. It damaged several relationships – practically every relationship from ages 16 to 23. It alienated me, it rocked my world, it angered me, and set me in the deepest depression I’ve ever known. My eyes even had a black fuzzy border around my field of vision, and colors were less bright for the longest time. I didn’t know real happiness. I finally sent myself to therapy at age 22, and I turned my life around on my own, with the therapists’ help. It took years to be able to trust any man, even my father, who didn’t deserve distrust. It took almost a decade to be able to feel comfortable naked around another being, especially another man. Having been through all of this, I am comfortable enough in my own skin to understand, and appreciate, retarded humor such as Daniel Tosh’s. He goes for shock value, and that’s totally okay. 

He’s so fucking annoying! -_-” All of his jokes suck…in my humble opinion.

i think its a JOKE. if you dont like it, dont listen. but if youre getting pissed off at a JOKE, then maybe you should pull the stick out of your ass and learn to laugh. you might be less miserable. Tosh has made rape jokes before. so have other comedians. really not a big deal.

Because he’s Daniel Tosh, he gives zero fucks. He’s laughing all the way to the bank.