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While violence is not necessarily the best way to respond to violent rhetoric, I have to admit I admire the woman who can stand up for other women, especially when the hate and violence being proposed could just as easily be turned on her. She stood up not only for the other woman, but her own beliefs as well, and in a society where rape is blamed on its victims and is somehow deemed an acceptable joke no less. Good for her, but…

I hope next time she merely helps the girl across the street to a safe place, before lashing out at the people threatening her. She could have just as easily been the target, and being reckless is not the best way to go about promoting non-violent rhetoric/behavior. Engaging in hyper-masculine violence really only perpetuates it as the only way to solve problems.

@entropistanon@xanga - I agree.

With that said, the woman is awesome.

I think the comments made are kind of borderline.  Us guys are very physical in regards to attraction, so a comment like the first one about domination isn’t too out of the ordinary.  However, the second comment could be taken two ways, one way being in regards to rape, the other being the woman being surprised at the level of aggressiveness.  The difference being one involves consent and the other doesn’t.  I’d probably have to hear the comments to determine the difference.  I’d probably want to do the same thing if it was about rape, but wouldn’t because they would probably charge me with assault for hurting him.  When your 6’6″ 260lbs, people tend to assume your the instigator/aggressor.

WHOO that’s AWESOME

she should of kicked him in the balls while she was at it. you go girl. 

Pfft. She emotionally reacted. That’s what happens when your heart comes before your brain.

I wouldn’t injure or self incriminate myself; just maybe taze the scumbag until his chestnuts are roasted.

Dude she’s my hero fuck the haters

Sometimes people joke about rape to their friends. I’m not saying that’s “okay” or not offensive or whatever. But sometimes friends understand that “take her in the back alley for rape” means “go home and jerk off while day dreaming that a woman that hot would go on a date with me”…

It’s not her place to go around physically assaulting people because she doesn’t like what comes out of their mouth.
Unnecessary escalations are rarely the answer.

Well, she has committed what could be felony battery, while all the other people did is talk… which, last time I checked, was protected by the first amendment.  She’s a criminal, the others are just loudmouths.

Think really, really hard about wanting to live in a place where you can be punched in the face if somebody disagrees with you, and they suffer no consequences whatever.  And then think about how many people in the world disagree with you, and how many of them can punch really, really hard.

The woman’s rights issue is absolutely irrelevant.  The flat fact is that we have decided, as a country, that saying things is largely not punishable, and if something is, that justice is not carried out on a person-by-person level on the street.  It boils my blood that the supreme court allowed that church-group to yell obscenities at soldier’s funerals… but I’m not going to start a fistfight with them (either the churchgoers, or the supreme court) because I disagree.  Respect process of law, and if you want to make that type of speech illegal, then by all means, call your Congressperson, or get elected yourself.  Vigilante violence is not something I want anywhere near where I live.

@Endrath: Threats like those made by the man are not protected speech. This isn’t a matter of people getting punched for DISAGREEING with someone. I do agree with you on one aspect, women’s rights issues are irrelevant to this situation. This was a clear cut case of self defense/defense of others. That man made a threat of raping the third woman. Last time I checked, saying things like ”Fucking c***, I’d take her into the back alley and show her what I’m made of. She won’t even see it coming.” is not just male bravado. That is a credible threat of violence against another person, and what this woman did was the right thing to do. 

Somebody give this lady a cigar and a golden glove.

people defending the comments saying they’re just jokes or that it’s how men think are supporting the whole rape culture issue and are showing exactly why the issue exists. 

SOMEONE had to change that 

they shouldn’t have been talking about raping a drunk girl…serves them right!

They got what they deserved and thank god there are people like her in the world who actually CARE about other people.

I don’t agree with what those men said, but punching them in the face leaves you open for felony assault charges. Violence is not the right way of handling things unless you are in immediate physical danger.

be the change you wanna see the world

Good for her!! I think it’s wonderful that she stood up for what she believes in and the woman who could’ve been raped. Some of you may think the men were joking or talking about something else, but really WHY TAKE THE CHANCE?!

If you feel uncomfortable, you do something about it. Helping the girl get out of the situation may have been a good thing to do, but who says that’s going to work? The guys can probably run faster than her and if they were going to do something to the girl, they could chase them and then attack both of them.

If I was in the situation she was, I would’ve done the same thing.

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga -@Endrath@xanga -  Agree. Though I do admire her spunk. Also, she’s adorable.

To avert all of this, she could have easily went across the street and walked with the woman. If there was an attack brewing, it probably wouldn’t have happened once there was more than one person there, but if the men attacked, her punches would be easily legally defendable. 

I see where she came from.

People need to understand that joking around or making ‘light’ of a rape or sexual assault situation is something to always be taken seriously. She punched this guy for a reason. She posted on tumblr about it for a reason. Was it right? Well, that’s a slippery slope & it’s not black or white. I am on the idea that she did it to raise awareness as she claims. It sucks that violence has to be metered out like this, in order for the world to take notice.
 

It disgusts me how people can say things like “she’s the one who deserves to get raped” Uh, SERIOUSLY?! Some people really need their heads checking over. I say well done to the girl for punching the evil bastard!! How anybody can joke about rape is awful, and anyone who does so deserves more than a punch, in my opinion. Wear your bandage with pride, girl!

If it’s okay for her to punch a guy who says stuff like that, then it should be okay to punch every single individual who laughed at the castration of a man on the daytime TV show “The Talk”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkl_oLSKQc

If you want to genderize rape, then lets genderize all violence. There’s a violence culture against men, and the people who laugh at shit like that are perpetuating it.

If she was fighting off the guys while they were trying to rape the girl- fine. Punching someone because they say something distasteful and offensive? No. 

TALKING ABOUT assaulting someone is not the same as assaulting someone. She even referred to it as “joking”. Think for a minute about going out with your girlfriends, and how you might joke about assaulting a sexy guy at a bar. What if a man turned around and punched you in the face? Would that be alright? Men get raped by women too, so this fictional vigilante man is just standing up for his brothers against woman-on-man rape culture. She shouldn’t have punched them. @AmorVomnia7@xanga - That stuff is pretty sick. 

AGREED. If he has the balls to think those thoughts out loud …. then he deserved to be punched in the face.

@AmorVomnia7@xanga - Ha! Somebody had to say it! 

Of course, nobody condones threats of rape, or rape itself, however, condoning an impulsive, unnecessary act of violence is nearly as reprehensible. It is irresponsible to use the hatred of one bad behavior to justify the commission of another. 

I would of fucking punched the guy too. I’m not saying it’s the right reaction but the hate she’s getting certainly isn’t justified. This whole thing has turned into a nightmarish clusterfuck.

If she really thought that the woman was in imminent danger she could have called the police. She could have even called the police over being offended by what they said. Obviously the man has no respect for women so, really?? Punching him in the face is going to fix that?? Now he’s going to have an even worse opinion about women. >.< I kind of feel like she was promoting her own vigilantism while with a smile on her face more so than demoting the “rape culture”.  

I don’t support the use of physical violence against verbal stupidity.

Not sure how I would have reacted.

My best friend punched a stranger when he JOKED about raping a child. BAM.
But hey, just distasteful banter, nothing more. It’s not like he was actually hurting or assaulting the kid.
My guess is everyone would have supported her actions had the target been a child.

I’m generally not an advocate of hitting people for what they say, but I can’t say I find it terribly inappropriate for the girl to show him that women aren’t prey.

@Endrath@xanga - I’m quite certain threatening language is not protcted by the first amendment.

Anyway, I don’t condone what the girl did because the guys weren’t acting out their threats but hell, she might have stopped them from going along with it.

I think she did what she thought was appropriate at the time. She probably saw them as a danger and not only were they talking about raping the girl but maybe she though that they were going to act on their actions. I never would have punched them but I probably would’ve said something to them because that isn’t appropriate at all to say.

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - there is no bad reason for her punching him in the face so therefore she is aloud and it DOES help things like him shutting his stupid mouth.

that girl has GUTS. i’m surprised she didn’t get hurt herself! i’m glad she didn’t though and i hope that dude learned a lesson because what they were saying is disgusting. there is NO reason people should be threatening her or disagreeing with what she did.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - you can’t JOKE about rape like if you find rape jokes funny then you are an idiot. this is 2012, find something else to laugh about omg.

@blowingmoney@xanga - I agree with everything you said-I think you misinterpreted my comment. Joking about such things are beyond despicable.

I am surprised at people justifying the joke.

Would they justify the joke if it had been about raping and assaulting a child in the alley? Doubtful.

I commend her. To hell with the haters… especially if they say SHE now deserves to get raped. 

Sometimes, talking one’s way out of trouble, or continuing to run does nothing but encourage the trouble to get worse.  In my opinion, this woman is heroic for doing what she did.  I’ll bet the next time some meat head gets the idea to harass her, he will think twice….

Kudos to her….

We need a LOT more women like Kelsey and a LOT less people like the ones threatening her with rape… I mean… Seriously..? No one DESERVES to get raped and people shouldn’t say that EVER! He needed to get punched in the face!

I’m a firm believer that violence is sometimes the answer because I don’t live in a Disney movie where dead abused women wake up from true love’s kiss. I can’t wait to become supreme ruler of the universe…

There is so much ignorance in this situation, the way it was handled, and most of the comments for this post.

The guy was totally wrong.

The girl was wrong, too.

The people saying she should be raped are wrong as well,

and all of you agreeing that she did the right thing need to rethink how you solve problems like this.

I applaud her for what she did. I don’t care if that guy was joking or would never have the balls to actually rape someone, you don’t joke about that and you certainly don’t actually do that just because you were turned down. KUDOS to this girl. And I agree with her post, I hope that man’s girlfriend/sister/mom/etc ask what happened and he’s forced to tell the truth. Serves him right. End of story. Think twice before you make threatening comments in public.

@AncoraImparo@xanga - people aren’t justifying the joke, but would you like to get punched in the face because someone got “offended” by something you said?

@xsimplepleasuresx@xanga - That’s why you use your voice. Kelsey wouldn’t have gotten anywhere by telling him off, but you could have said something and he would’ve listened or picked a fight, in which case you would be free to punch him until he corrected his speech. Either way (punched by a little girl or verbally humiliated by a giant man) douchebags need to be checked before they act on their unfiltered misanthropy. Why would someone say something like that if it hadn’t crossed their mind? Violent people got screwed up somewhere along their lives and need to be corrected before it’s too late.

@i_start_the_rumors@xanga - It’s better that he failed to filter that crap and got punched for it. Maybe he’ll change the way he thinks. Most of these guys just bottle it up and the next rejection could be the one that turns violent.

It’s not that Kelsey shouldn’t have punched him, it’s that his ‘friend’ he was walking with should’ve called him out on it. Or someone else at some earlier point in his life. Instead a random girl on the street was left the task of correcting his behavior as an adult, and unfortunately the quickest route was a fist to the nose.