Lovelyish

and how many stingrays would have to be slaughtered for these shoes? Humans disgust me. 

That’s pretty cool. Most cows are raised to be eaten, so I don’t see much of a difference with these stingrays.

That’s a little twisted.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Its the same thing as Tigers being killed just for their fur, its fucked up and wrong. Tigers are close to being extinct in the wild becuase of it and if this gets popular, stingrays will have the same fate. Its different than killing for a food source, every species does it. 

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - I don’t see it that way. Food is a consumer product just like these shoes. If we want to get into the thing with fur, I’d rather protect the people in India before we deal with their cats.

They look fucking terrible. Maybe if they didn’t look like the ass-reject of an Andy Warhol project they’d be worth that price. Why does high-price “fashion” always look so repulsive?

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Exterminating wild-life is a far cry different than culling livestock. The “protecting the people” sounds like a weak defense for extincting a species. I’d also like to point out that these animals are being genetically modified to eventually become incredibly hideous apparel for idiots with a trust fund. That isn’t a very humane thing to do, nor an intelligent thing.

@RazielV@xanga - Whatever. I still think the shoes are cool, and high fashion is high fashion. It’s art and a lot of times not really meant to be worn off the runway. Not everything can be bought at Old Navy, bro.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Old Navy? Really? Their clothing is just as awful as this hoity-toity silliness. Something looking “cool” doesn’t excuse mindlessly killing things. So, chick, cool story but I can totally wait for the movie to come out. Pack the attitude in your Prada bag, missy. It’s boring.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - We can’t live without food, we can live without this shit. It would be a sad world when we can’t see these animals free in the wild, maybe that’s just me though (i’m one of those weird people who prefers animals than humans). 

@RazielV@xanga - Don’t you love the mentality of people today? They only care about themselves.

@RazielV@xanga - Old Navy’s clothes are cheaply made and they run big, but hey not all of us can rock a pair of Wranglers; and I don’t do Prada. I’ll shove it in the Michael Kors for now. Then I’ll stick it in Gucci when I go out tonight. The poor little stingrays don’t keep me from liking the shoes. Thanks for life lesson… and for the record, the book is always better

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - I’m one of those people who cares more about other people, so I still think the shoes (and science) are cool. This looks like a pretty small business, so I’m not really worried about never seeing a stingray again.

Thats really creepy. And the shoes look awful.

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - yup these college educated snobs really are what’s killing today’s society. Next thing you know I might graduate, and then maybe even (God forbid) employed, and a functional, productive member of the community. Despicable.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - So it’s all good as long as it “looks cool”? More of a petty, selfish attitude which is quite sad to see. Good to know that as long as we look okay whatever happens to nature can suck it -rolls eyes- 

I’ll stick to my renewable resource clothing that says something about me, not the losers that tell us how we should look. <3

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - If you plan on being a productive member of society, great. That’s something desperately needed. That’s not what’s being contended here and has no actual bearing on the discussion. You’re deflecting the issue to try to avoid having to actually answer a point. Mindlessly killing animals just to make clothing isn’t humane. That has nothing to do with your educational pursuits.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - You’ve admitted that you’d support killing animals for their skin just for high fashion and because you have nothing else to say, you’re just spitting out shit that doesn’t even make since to the argument.  

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Sooo, your argument is that you cannot look good without animal-borne apparel? That’s a really weak argument. How the shoes look is honestly inconsequential as that is not a fact, just opinion. But the mentality that we have to kill off wildlife to look good is not fact either, and it actually affects the ecosystem. 

But hey, whatever helps you feel better and raise that low self-esteem, right?

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - Only because I’m an anal retentive dick: sense* <3

@RazielV@xanga - I’m happy as long as we’re fed, living off the grid, and looking like shit, too. Hell, I may even slip into my Levis just to one up my idiot friends with a trust fund. Then, I’ll read a book made of dead trees. And after that, I’ll go throw around a baseball with a leather glove. Cool story, bro. The shoes are epic.

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - You got me. I don’t care about stingrays. I care about the kids in South Dallas on the free lunch program, but not really stingrays. The shoes are a novelty item, and they look cool. I’m sorry a stingray died.

@RazielV@xanga - Whoopsie! Thanks! ehehehe

I think that this is just a big waste of money.
I’m not going to say that it’s cruelty to animals because I eat meat; cows and chickens die to sustain me.

@RazielV@xanga - Oh, my self esteem is soooo low. I’m wearing something made of cotton! Cotton! It was alive and now it’s dead! It was picked, killed, and manufactured! I just don’t know what’s wrong with me that I have to kill these living things to put on my body. This is a problem I have. I am so happy you’ve helped me address this. From now on I think I’m just going to walk around in my favorite potato sack, because that’s how far I’ve come from thinking these shoes in a picture on the internet look cool.

The poor, third-world children who make them in sweat shops?

@UnconventionalButterfly@xanga - I agree with you. IF an animal should be used for it’s fur or skin, the rest of the animal should be used as well. One moose can feed a family of four for an entire year. The hyde is turned into leather, bones are used to make tools, jewellery and crafts, the meat to feed a family.

When these stingrays are injected with whatever to make a “ready-to-wear” species (which by the way will be unedible with all the toxins), I hope they leave the majority of the stingrays alone so that they won’t be extinct. This is a very short article, we don’t know all the facts.

They’re ugly, and changing animals DNA for fashion? Creepy and wrong on so many levels.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - So to you an animal is on the same level as a plant. While the animal has a life-span, emotions, feelings, and (in a sense) family that it raises and protects, it is really nothing above a plant which just grows. Gotcha. That makes a lot of sense. I’m very glad you’re astute enough to make the correlation which ultimately proved my argument invalid by use of such pristine logic and rationale. 

And since the suggestion is to not slaughter wildlife (livestock excluded), it’s only rational to jump straight to the extreme and assert that the argument was to only wear fabric borne from plants. Better yet, argue that the cotton is equal to an animal, yet you’re going to wear burlap which is made from the skin of the jute plant.

Yes, your argument and reasoning is sound and without flaw. You have bested me in the arena of nature and your knowledge thereof is impeccable. 

See how much fun it is being a condescending child? It’s like drinking magic.

@Orlei@xanga - Animals have been used for clothing and food for centuries. That’s not the issue I’d say is the problem here. The problem is the killing of free-range (see: natural roaming wildlife) with reckless abandon. That and the fact they’re altering animal DNA to make clothing. That last bit is what has me quite incensed on the matter a bit more. 

Also, @specialxplaces@xanga raises another point which is that the rest of the animal almost always gets thrown away, making the killing of it not only pointless, but wasteful as well. 

We should be past using animals for frivolous material items by now. This is stupid, and people who think it’s cool are ignorant.

@RazielV@xanga - LOLOLOLOL

I agree with what you’re saying and bottom line even if people are treating animals like objects it doesn’t seem too wise to alter the DNA of animals for anything frivolous without knowing the full repercussions.

BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE OLD NAVY THING I GOT SOME CUTE STUFF FROM THERE.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - YOU LIE OLD NAVY IS POO

@RazielV@xanga - Exactly!! If we’re going to kill an animal, let’s be respectful and use all of it. We’re not using stingrays for their meat as of now (I don’t think..?) so there’s no reason for us to be taking from them at all. Rayfish Footwear probably has the insensible logic that stingrays serve us no other purpose, so why not use them for fashion? It’s so aggrivating!! Let them swim dude. 

I hope no one wastes the money on this. Thinking of wearing stingrays on my feet creeps me out.

@RazielV@xanga - I GOT THESE BOTH FROM OLD NAVY. I bet Dee likes them, so nyur.

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@RazielV@xanga - I’m not suggesting anything except that the shoes look cool. I do think it’s fun being a condescending child, and I can’t wait to grow up into a sad old piece of white trash. I will still never give a rat’s ass about the poor stingrays.

fucking disgusting. 

what’s the point? I mean, we have pleather – fake leather that has a similar feel but is man-made… so if they like the texture so much why can’t they make something synthetically? it would also be easier to get whatever pattern someone wanted, too.

Ok…that’s pathetic.
My first CAR cost that much.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - /facepalm

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Oh you care more about the people? You care about those starving children on the welfare program who can barely afford to eat lunch? And yet you like high fashion/overpriced goods/consumerism…okay have fun with your Michael Kors and Gucchi purse. You sound a little ignorant.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga -  Shut up, lol.

@bAbiiExxPiNay@xanga - Just because I’m rich doesn’t mean I don’t have compassion. What I do with my money is no one’s business, really. Why people like to criticize the wealthy is beyond me. I don’t get on to you about how you don’t spend your money. Yes, I made a few jabs; but I was obviously provoked for what? Yeah, being rich. Rich people are people too, and just because we’re in a different tax bracket doesn’t mean we have to be philanthropists. Poor people spend what money they have on themselves. Guess what, so do rich people. Yes, I care more about the kids who live just on the other side of town who can’t afford to eat lunch more than I care about a stingray. 

I wouldn’t wear this shoe because 1) They’re high fashion. I live in North Dallas. There’s no reason for me to wear such a flashy item. There’s no Red Carpet rollin’ down Sam Rayburn. 2) They’re very obviously men’s shoes. 3) I’m perfectly okay just living without them.

@x_UNF0RGiVEN@xanga - X__lol__XX__lol__X.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Honestly, I did not know you are rich (and that’s arbitrary anyway, your parents are probably rich…not you) but I think that’s pretty irrelevant to the discussion. Poor people can like high fashion/consumerism/etc. It’s just your wording that makes you sound immature and heartless. Would you be concerned if puppies were being bred solely for their fur to make coats?

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

Nope; they’re hideous.

I’d much rather see a stingray swimming, or touch one at Seaworld than wear one. 

@bAbiiExxPiNay@xanga - You should probably read the comments. It’s pretty clear I’m not a troll. It’s not the same thing as puppies, because those are pets and stingrays aren’t unless you’re weird. Yeah, my parents are rich, and so are their parents, and theirs, and theirs, and theirs. I am rich, too. Old money, Sweetheart. I understand your confusion.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Funny, my parents are rich too. You are still, very certainly, an ignorant little cunt. That is the main issue here – not the genetically engineered shoe stingrays.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Like I said, pretty irrelevant. But please, go on and reiterate how much money you have.

@bAbiiExxPiNay@xanga - It’s not irrelevant because I can actually afford the shoes. So as someone who could see them on my brother’s feet, I think my opinion matters. 1,800 is actually quite reasonable for a pair of men’s high fashion sneakers, but you’re not going to understand so that’s fine. We don’t know what quality of life these ready-to-wear stingrays would live. Everything isn’t even really in it’s infancy yet. A couple of stingrays are dead (we don’t know how they died btw) for a pair of shoes that look cool in a picture. That fine though, go on and reiterate how poor and stupid you are.

@GingerAvenger@xanga - I love you, too.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - haha you’re so funny. I read your site. It’s awesome! You really are the pretentious idiot you make yourself out to be. By the way, I never said I was poor but thanks for assuming so. Many people can afford $1800 shoes, but not many choose to go out and purchase them. There is no quality of life for the stingrays and yeah, all they got was a “cool” picture. How artsy. And yes, once again, YOUR WEALTH, is irrelevant to the fact that you don’t give a shit about the stingrays. We get it, you think you’re rich. You’re also a world class cunt. But it’s all right, I’m having fun trolling you.

@RazielV@xanga - Next time you get into arms about sting rays, you might want to consider the huge oil spill (which is ignored) and the radiation coming from Japan that’s killing tons of fish and affecting humans. now. Why don’t you attack the Governments for that? Oh, that’s right, only the small consumers and people with opinions hurt land environments or sea life. LOOLLL

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - Ignore the hateful comments. While they cry out cruelty, Japan Fukushima has radiation flowing from their country causing seals to lose hair and teeth, along with spontaneous abortions of their babies. It’s already affecting humans who work on aircrafts, causing them to lose hair in the gobs. But yes, the small, very small amount of people who DO buy these types of shoes are causing extinction. LMAO. Uneducated trolls.

@Celtic_haven@xanga - Yup. Pretty much.

@Celtic_haven@xanga  - Well, the more I know humans the more I think most of them are selfish, disgusting creatures so I think animals deserve to be protected more than humans. Also, the fur/skin industry is way darker & more disgusting than the meat industry (though it’s really not all that better). Think starving animals in teeny tiny little cages & then hanging them from hooks & skinning them alive. Also, that genuine mink coat that cost thousands of dollars is very likely made from dogs, cats, foxes, coyotes, etc. & if you’re about to say, “Well, they’re just stingrays.” then you disgust me, too. & also, it’s not a “couple of stingrays” who “died for unknown reasons” because you cannot just take a floating dead stingray from the water & go, “Wow, I’m going to make a shoe from this.” Thousands upon thousands of them are slaughtered, if you google it you can see it’s a very common type of shoe.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga- Well, the article was about stingrays, not Japan. So is it really such a surprise that people are getting upset & responding to the article & not Japan..? Just because no one’s like, “OMG THAT RADIATION IN JAPAN IS HORRIBLE!!!!” doesn’t mean no one cares about it. 

“I don’t think my father the inventor of toaster strudel would be happy about this” and by “my father” i mean PETA.

disclaimer- peta is stupid, but so are these shoes.

@Celtic_haven@xanga - It’s cute that you think you know what we all are outraged about, or what we speak out against. @Ride_Every_Stride@xanga put it best. If this were ABOUT Japan’s disasters and the wake of them, then we’d be talking about them. However it is not. Deflecting the argument to an unrelated matter is a sure sign of a lack in education on the actual issue being discussed. So you try to turn it to something else in order to maintain an air of relevancy.

Shame that your entire point is misguided and wrong. But you keep back-patting @Roo_Crew2015@xanga and giving her false information. Because that’s an educated thing to do, and certainly not trollish.

If you’re not going to contribute, kindly keep quiet and let those who actually know what they’re on about discuss. Thanks. 

@Ride_Every_Stride@xanga - By the way, I think you reversed your tags. Roo wasn’t the one who brought up Japan XD

ok i am really horrified and i keep praying that this is fake and a huge horrible joke.. like the bonzai kittens. also i am hoping this whole thread is a prank too because. holyshit. humans make me

yeap, investigated, and think its fake. The website was registered in the US, and it looks like the DNS servers are US based, while the company claims to be Thai. notice they don’t go into detail about explaining their genetics. there’s no evidence of the company existing before 2011 and they claim to have “successfully engineered” their first stingray in 2010. also looked up other stingray boots and … they look nothing like that. so. here’s to me hoping that its fake.

of course there’s still no excusing the dumb cunts who have admitted they would buy these, but. you know. human hubris and egocentricity and all that..

@Ride_Every_Stride@xanga @RazielV@xanga -  - All I really said was that I like the shoes, and started being attacked because of it. It’s a product. It’s consumerism. It’s the world. So maybe It’s fucked up; but what can I do about it? Nothing. I’m a kid, basically. To me, the shoes look cool in this picture on this website. I just happen to think science is cool, too. If that makes me an ignorant cunt in anybody’s eyes, I’m totally okay with that. Except @GingerAvenger@xanga - fuck you. I live in Texas, which is a pretty fucked up state by the way. Do you know who our governor is? I mean really… I would rather deal with crises such as, the economy, job opportunity, public education, state funding, college debt, and the endless list of what is fucked up in my neck of the woods before I give two shits about cobblers genetically altering an animal’s DNA that I’ve only seen on vacation. It’s not very relevant to me. I don’t care about the stupid fish. I’m sorry that I’m so selfish, and that I’m more concerned about issues that will directly affect my family, friends, people around me, and myself. 

I am sorry, people on the internet I do not know, for being such a cunt.

@RazielV@xanga - Huh that’s wicked strange since I replied to her first & then went back & edited to comment to the other guy lol thanks!

@bAbiiExxPiNay@xanga - Err. Buying high-priced items doesn’t mean someone isn’t also philanthropic. There’s literally NO correlation between those two. Also, it’s not trolling if all you’re doing is telling the person you’re trolling them. You’re too invested in the matter to be trolling as it is.

@Roo_Crew2015@xanga - I apologize if I have or if you feel I have attacked you personally. I’ve been trying to avoid that because it really wouldn’t have much bearing on our discourse, plus there’s absolutely no reason to. 

My qualm with you is not over your choice in fashion, so please do not assume such. What my issue is, is the callous attitude you seem to display towards wildlife. Particularly in favour of some “haute couture” that relies on genetic modification and wanton slaughtering. 

Again, bringing other issues up is just deflecting from the current discourse. If someone is having a personal go, ignore them. Such comments are equally detrimental to the discussion and just as irrelevant as bringing up any issue other than that which is currently under discussion. Like I said, whatever you like is whatever you like, but looks and frivolous things like should never come at the expense of anyone else or anything else.

But… seeing as you are taking on this sort of “martyr complex” about some of the comments leveled at you, I’d be remiss to point out your not-so-subtle personal jab at me: “I do think it’s fun being a condescending child, and I can’t wait to grow up into a sad old piece of white trash.”

I’m far from white-trash, I’m also 27 and quite an upbeat person. I’d thank you to practise what you preach and watch your tongue more. You don’t get to insult others and then cry that others are insulting you back. 

I think this is pretty cool. Wouldn’t wear them though, not really my style. Plus I can’t afford them anyway.

Do these designs remind anyone else of a skin disease and some bacteria?…I think I’ve been studying infectious disease for too long now…Regardless these shoes are fugly.

@RazielV@xanga - Um excuse me, people are way more important in this world than animals. So how is that weak? While I don’t agree that the shoes are necessary or that they should even be made, I most definitely disagree with how you responded. I am disgusted by your blatant disregard for humanity.

@Kristin_Joy_McGuire@xanga - Yeah, no they aren’t. Asserting we’re the most important species, or even more important than any other is stupid. I don’t see animals starting wars and destroying natural habitats, nor do I see fish polluting the ocean and destroying the underwater ecosystem.

Humans are no more important than anything else that lives and breathes. Stow the hubris because it does not impress. I’m disgusted you think you’re above anything else. I’m sure that matters as much to you as your opinion does to me. I’d reach into my bucket of fucks to give, but sadly I’m all out at the moment.

Oh, and not thinking that people are the most important species does not equal having disregard for humanity. That’s a ludicrous and unfounded statement.

I’m sorry… What..? People are going to breed stingrays into whatever patterns and colors they want their SHOES to be?!

So now we’re offing other animals, aquatic, for their skins ?

Isn’t there more than enough yarn, plastic, and cotton on our great Sapphire Earth to cover our clothing needs without resorting to killing ?

I’m not a PETA supporter, but let’s try and stick with artificial means, likely it would be cheaper to produce which should be the point.