Two separate Indonesian politicans have cited mini skirts as pornographic and called for them to be banned.
The first politician is Indonesia’s parliamentary speaker:
Earlier this month, the country’s parliamentary speaker Marzuki Alie announced he would draft rules banning female politicians and staff members from wearing mini skirts, saying, “there have been a lot of rape cases and other immoral acts recently and this is because women aren’t wearing appropriate clothes.”“You know what men are like. Provocative clothing will make them do things.”
The second politician calling for a miniskirt ban is the religious affairs minister, and head of a new “anti-porn” taskforce:
Indonesia’s powerful religious affairs minister believes that mini-skirts are pornographic and should be banned under the country’s tough new anti-porn laws. Minister Suryadharma Ali has been appointed to run Indonesia’s new anti-porn taskforce, announced by president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono earlier this month.He told reporters in Jakarta yesterday that before deciding what they must ban as pornography, the taskforce would consult widely to come up with “a set of universal criteria”. However, “one [criterion] will be when someone wears a skirt above the knee,” according to the Jakarta Post.
Wow, mini skirts are pornographic and cause men to “do things”… like rape? And this is “because women aren’t wearing appropriate clothes”?! Talk about blaming the victim!
I don’t even know where to begin in a response!! What do you guys think of the above?
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This law is absolutely ridiculous. Whether women wear a Burqa or walk completely in the nude, it should not be an excuse to rob men of their personal responsibility.
It pisses me off to no end when I see guys blaming women for guys’ own lack of self-control. Whether the woman is wearing something tasteful or not, modest or not, should not matter when it comes to our reactions. And as guys, we all know that we don’t need to actually see a woman nude in order to trigger feelings of attraction.
daisy / 507 posts
Well we have such different cultures here. I’m from the Indonesia and the cultures are a little bit eastern. Unlike yours; western. The country is not a liberal country. You might think this is a little bit ridiculous because you’re not living in the east.
A lot of people will also probably think that this is crazy. And since it’s the biggest muslim population country in the world, they have to make the proper image for it. I think you would complain either if there’s news like “Muslim majority country loves mini skirt” lol XD
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@fabolousclown@xanga - You make some very good points, and I agree with you.
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What I’ve heard/read is that rape is not merely a matter of sexual desire. It’s a matter of being in power, a matter of control. So it doesn’t necessarily matter what you’re wearing.
I think it’s fine to teach prudence and conservatism in dressing, but no culture and no society should teach “don’t get raped” instead of “don’t rape”.
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As a person who lives in a land where women dress like the cheapest prostitutes you can imagine (Russia), where women wear skirts that with one sneeze shall show your their clit, and the rape statistics are really low because men are very chivalrous and respectful of women, I call bullshit on this whole “clothing causes rape” crap. It’s about how men are educated. Here you don’t hear rap songs that degrade women, you don’t have girls kissing girls in bars just to get attention, and cheating is just seen as a horrible thing to do, and guess what, the rape statistics are really low. Educate your people to respect others and this won’t happen.
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@cryholy@xanga - What’s wrong with teaching them alongside each other?
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I do agree men blame women without taking any responsibility. Well they do not seem like real men to me. As much as they see themselves as men they are not. They are more likely wimps who cannot control themselves.
Does not seem very attractive or strong to me.
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@Kazydai@mancouch - Nothing wrong with that. That’s not what I meant. The emphasis was supposed to be on “instead”, as in as a replacement of the other.
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Dressing down IS provocative. The frightening part is the fact women KNOW IT, which is why they dress in such a manner in the first place. Even police forces across the country admit this. The one in my city openly admitted this.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Wrong. In Russia, criminals get one between the eyes. In the USA, they are handed the keys to a fabulous resort they so laughingly call ‘penitentiaries’.
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@cryholy@xanga - Wrong, rape is a matter of sexual desire, nothing more. You have fallen for the libtarded feminazi claptrap. When was the last time you read about a fat, fugly bitch getting raped? I rest my case.
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@millionofstars@xanga - You hit the nail on the head. ‘Men cannot control themselves’. Proof rape is a ‘crime of passion’, not one of power.
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@LegionOfLucifer – It is more of power and control than anything.
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@millionofstars@xanga - Wrong. It has nothing to do with power. The man wants to fuck, nothing more. What ‘power’ does he want when he is fucking the woman? Are you to suggest only beautiful, sexy women are to be the recipients of such plays of power? That fat, fugly bitches are exempt from this explosion of power? There is no logic in this, therefore it is false. You are a victim of feminazi, libtarded propaganda.
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@LegionOfLucifer – No matter what rape is always wrong.
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@millionofstars@xanga - I find it disturbing that it is ‘rape’ when the guy who does it is not a gorgeous, tall man, but a fugly piece-of-shit.
In a way, you are right when you claim rape is about power. Yes, power FOR THE WOMEN. Why do you think men no longer wish to be alone with many women? They fear if they upset the bitch in any way, she will claim he raped her, even if the accusation is false. Men are becoming more and more fearful of women, and the women love this. It is power in the true sense. All a bitch needs is a mere accusation, and the guy’s life is over.
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Those who participate in false accusations of rape should do the same time as someone who had actually committed rape.
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@LegionOfLucifer@xanga - Rape can be sexual desire or for power. If you say it is only a matter of sexual desire then are you suggesting only thin, gorgeous women get raped? Certainly that can’t be true. Women of many different looks get raped. You seem to have a vendetta against “fat, fugly bitches.” Who is to be the judge of who is ugly and who is pretty? Furthermore, when rape is done for a means of power, yes smaller women are raped more often then larger women. Simply think about who would be easier to control and over power?
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I personally think wearing mini skirts or any revealing clothing shows a lack of respect for your own body. Why should men respect your body if you don’t respect your own body?
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I’m sure the politicians would love if all of the women had to remove their mini skirts.
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@theflutegangsta@xanga - ”I personally think wearing mini skirts or any revealing clothing shows a lack of respect for your own body. Why should men respect your body if you don’t respect your own body?”
are you fucking kidding me?? that doesn’t give them a right to RAPE someone and violate someone and ruin their lives….what the fuck kind of comment is that? sounds like you’re a rapist defending your actions you sick mother fucker
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@LegionOfLucifer@xanga - Not anymore, actually.
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@theflutegangsta@xanga - Look if you feel too ugly to wear anything nice that is your personal problem, the rest of us should be able to wear whatever the fuck we want without men wanting to fuck us against our will, thanks. I respect my body very well, and I’m not wearing a niqab because society can’t teach men to control themselves.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Ah, you seek the right to be a whore. Fair enough.
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I do find it amusing that the women in this blog are defending their right to be teases, and demanding there be no consequences of said teasing.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - That’s what you think. I do miss the Soviet Union. They knew how to handle scum.
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that someone is wearing something is NEVER permission to force sex on them.
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@LegionOfLucifer@xanga - you would be right if i didnt know a girl would was not thin at all get raped…… she was not hot. she is okay looking but isnt hot. she did not know her attacker either.
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@LegionOfLucifer@xanga - I know some fatties that have been raped. Some people dig fat chicks.
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I have never, ever heard or seen anything reported showing that fat, fugly bitches get raped. I know you women are obliged to come up with these falsehoods in order to protect the power structure you have built via your claims that rape is a crime of violence. Female power rests upon this sole issue, giving them the ability to send any male to jail simply by pointing their finger at him and crying ‘rape!’ This is power in the greatest extreme, and you females will NEVER give it up by stating the truth.
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They also banned punk rock and mohawks.
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@LegionOfLucifer@xanga - Uhhh hello my name iz troll. Men get raped too. Children get raped. Old people get raped. Animals get raped.
Good looking men rape, my friend got raped by an attractive, charming man. He led her away from her friends (me and my friend), said he had to go to the bank to get some money because he’d lost his friends and needed to get some money for a taxi to get home, and he led her down an alley and violently raped her. I doubt he couldn’t have got sex else where, he did it because he was a rapist.
I think some men do rape because of sexual desire, some rape because of power and I think there can be other motives too.