Lovelyish

The drugs are just throwing him off.

Of course they arent. How can you discuss a topic involving females if you arent giving them a chance to speak up for themselves? This whole discussion is being runned by jackasses. If a woman who wants contraception is a “slut”, what do you call a man who walks around with condoms? CONDOMS ARE CONTRACEPTION!!!!!!!! Yet I dont see men getting railed?

Not only do birth control pills keep cysts away, they also regulate & lighten periods & aid in preventing certain cancers. Why are we listening to Rush Limbaugh anyway? He’s so rude & nasty to people & has no right to talk about morals when he thinks he’s above everyone. Just because his drugs came in bottles doesnt mean he wasnt an abuser & he’s on wife #4 & counting. I’d trust him with my health as much as a sawed off shotgun with a broken trigger.

Why are people still listening to anything that this man says? I mean it is one thing if you are someone that likes listening to him, but why does anyone else care about anything that he says? But, just to show some of the flaw in his logic, he doesn’t seem to have any problem with the fact that Viagra is covered by health care (isn’t his wife like 20 years younger than him? A connection maybe). So it’s fine to help people have sex, but not okay to protect them from the consequences?

Oh Rush. You old polecat.

why is being a hooker even illegal?  slightly irrelevant but still.

as far as liberating women, which is what this does, it turns out bad in the end…  for the anointed ones. 

People (even women) can’t discuss women’s issues, women’s role in the workforce or politics, or women’s health without acting like we are all sex fiends.  Never mind that Rush abused prescription drugs (wasn’t it) and I assume ripped off his insurance company, and never mind that the whole point of viagra is simply so men can have sex.  Viagra is covered by insurance, so by his round of reasoning we are paying for dirty old men to have sex already but we can’t do the same for women.  A big ass duh to the big ass Rush.  (And I’m a republican.)

I agree with Lola Mae.  Why do people listen to him?  So, the man who has been married 4 times is calling a law student a prostitute.  Does anyone see the irony in that?  I’d love to know what medial conditions viagra cures.  It’s not needed and it shouldn’t be offered if women can’t get birth control but apparently the republicans want people to have as many babies as they can.  Aren’t they pro-life and anti welfare?  Asking a married couple to keep their legs closed is bull and sometimes condoms break.  Birth control is very effective, more so than condoms plus they help with everything listed and PCOS and hormonal imbalances.  I should be on them right now I’m just waiting to start taking them again and it’s not for contraceptive reasons. 

But, why again listen to him or any of the Fox News ultra conservative idiots?  None of them know what they’re talking about and spend most of their time either judging or hating on everyone who doesn’t see things their way. 

@TheTheologiansCafe@xanga - Drugs or not, what do you call a woman who is paid to have sex?

If honest taxpayers are paying women to have sex, not only are those women prostitutes but the honest taxpayer is getting screwed big time.

Rush is expressing the outrage of all good American taxpayers who are sick to death of funding the depravity of progressive social programs.

As of now six sponsors have dropped their ads from Limbaugh’s show. A massive “Thank you!” is owed to Sleep Train mattresses, Select Comfort Corporation, Quicken Loans, The Cleveland Cavaliers, Citrix and LegalZoom.com. Thanks guys!

get up-to-date info on the falling of Limbaugh’s sponsors at this link here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/02/1070287/-BREAKING-Second-sponsor-drops-Rush-?via=siderec

Health plans universally cover Viagra, so by his definition, we have already subsidized men’s sex lives, too, but I don’t hear Rush calling them whores. Double standard, much?

@Shinbi_Belldandy@xanga - Everyone knows that all men are prostitutes.

which is fine

While I do not agree with the insurance mandate (why should contraception have no co-pay if cancer medications do?), I’m not sure who this fat fuck thinks he is.  Being providing contraception is not paying for sex, it is paying for NOT HAVING BABIES, as well as the elimination of some serious gynecological-related illnesses.

@Colorsofthenight@xanga - Whom are the anointed ones?

I don’t want to pay for contraceptives, but it’s better than having a bunch of crazy bitches on the Maury show or ripping off Welfare, but then again, I doubt it’ll prevent some whores from fucking to make babies in order to just live off welfare for the rest of their lives.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - wow, bad argument. why are you comparing cancer to birth control pills? yes, there are some medical uses for birth control, but if it’s not for medical reasons, I can see why no one wants to pay sluts to take them other than to prevent them from breeding babies and ripping off welfare

@TiredSoVeryTired@xanga - Seriously, why should we pay for viagra? having an erection has no medical need. honestly, I just think that they should cover birth control pill only if it has a medical purpose. Honestly, use of condom promotion is better if they’re talking about sexual promiscuity, that way it’ll prevent STDs/HIV/AIDS and pregnancy. 

This is another one I’ll be happy to see die, like Breitbart.

What I think is most vile in his statement is the assumption that the pill makes or grants a woman the desire to be promiscuous.  How sexist and degrading is that notion?  I’ve known a lot of women on the pill who haven’t slept with as many people as Rush has (he’s been married 4 times no?), so he’s not one to talk about who is promiscuous either.  

@passionate_kisses579@xanga - Well, I’m pretty sure I’m not paying for viagra unless Medicare is or something.  Condoms would be most wise for certain folks, but this woman isn’t advocating free condoms.  

@TiredSoVeryTired@xanga - Yea, birth control pills do work for some medical conditions and that’s why it should be covered but only for those reasons, but there should also be some form of coverage/or something for those who are sexually active, like info about birth control and STD check ups and such. 

As for Rush, I was saying if the lady was a slut, then she would ask for free condoms, which technically are free in some clinics and school/university health clinics.

@DerangedMonkeyPT@xanga - ROFL @ Polecat.

I do hope, that conservatives realize Medicaid pays for birth control. Additionally it also pays for things like abortions (depending on the state), and tubal ligation, again, depending on the state. 

Point: This has been going on for years–it’s nothing new.  
BUT IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR.
/facepalm.

@Ailean@xanga - Men don’t have vagina’s! They couldn’t possibly……

It’s because he doesn’t get any sex. Haters hate what they can’t have.

@passionate_kisses579@xanga - Condoms aren’t as effective as BC pills preventing pregnancy. Also, for some women, it’s very painful to use condoms.

@TiredSoVeryTired@xanga – Yeah, actually, many women’s sex drive goes down thanks to BC pills.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga – Women who have sex are not prostitutes. If you had anything but a turd in your skull, you’d realize BC means less babies means less welfare queens. But, no, conservatives can’t compromise on shit. And being that he’s a pill popper, he probably got those by scamming insurance. So let’s have it your way and let addicts shrivel up and die, yes? I’d be cool with that.

@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Women have sex all the time. The ones who get paid for it are prostitutes. That’s the way it has been since the Stone Age.

That woman who Rush is talking about actually went up to Capital Hill and said that the women at Georgetown Law School were have so much sex that they couldn’t afford it and that they needed Congress to mandate that their insurance covered contraceptives.

That is a slut demanding that everyone to pay her for sex.  Don’t call me names. I didn’t make this up. 

You know what, ladies? Keep ya head up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeHZCzaxZ4

Fuck that piece of shit. 

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - People take birth control for reasons OTHER THAN HAVING LOTS OF SEX.  But it seems that loud-mouthed conservatives do not understand that.  To them it’s just a “free sex” card.  If all of the upper-class old white dudes that were making the laws actually did some research about women’s health and the benefits that birth control pills can provide other than contraception, we would not have to argue about it.  Most women who are on the pill don’t just use it so they can be sluts.  I have been on the pill for a few years and even when I was not dating anyone and thus not having any sex for months, I still took the medication because it has other benefits.

Also, most college medical clinics offer free condoms too.  Should we get rid of those?  Those are contraception too and allow men to have lots of sex.  So if we’re not going to fund one form of contraception, we shouldn’t fund the other.  So all those baskets of condoms or condoms handed out at orientation events need to stop too.  But men are not expected to keep their dicks in their pants.  The women are just supposed to keep their legs closed.  How archaic and ridiculous.  Also, throwing the term “prostitute” around is just misogynist and fucking immature.  That’s not calling anything what it is…that’s using nasty words for shock value and it actually detracts from an argument.

Rush Limbaugh is probably just bitter because no woman with a brain in her head and a functioning pair of eyes would fuck him even if she WAS paid.  If somebody offered me 10 million bucks to fuck him, I would spit in their face.  I honestly can’t even believe people still listen to him and that anyone agrees with the far-fetched insulting arguments he uses.  He is quite obviously a piece of human excrement that someone made the mistake of putting on the radio.  Everything he says has only one purpose: to piss off the highest number of people that he possibly can.  He’s a misogynist pile of dog shit.

@hot_metalhead@xanga - Sorry, but not even your own people use the excuse that we need a whole new federal entitlement because contraceptives are used by women for reasons other than birth control.

You need to research the issue.

The woman who went to Capital Hill to beg for money, did so for the specific purpose of getting money to support her sex habits.

And former Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi and her ilk are all talking about the fact that 98 – 99% of women use contraceptives for birth control.

So quit trying to justify the unjustifiable with excuses that have no credibility. The world doesn’t revolve around the female vagina and it’s need for a government funded penis.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - politicians, high caste people, etc.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - 

“That is a slut demanding that everyone to pay her for sex.  Don’t call me names. I didn’t make this up. “
right, Limbaugh did.  and you’re intellectually slutty for him  

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - He didn’t make it up either. He simply reported the news. He even played the audio testimony so everyone could hear it for themselves.

Here is a LINK to the video of Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke testifying before Congress.

It is truly outrageous that sexually promiscuous women would have the audacity to demand that everyone in society foot the bill for their contemptible sexual appetites.

@hot_metalhead@xanga - Rush Limbaugh has a very beautiful, extremely intelligent and talented wife. Why all the hatred?

@passionate_kisses579@xanga - “Wow bad argument” Wow, it’s funny you have the audacity to say that when you COMPLETELY missed my argument in the first place. 

My point was that a co-pay should not be waived for birth control when it isn’t waived for virtually anything else, including drugs that are specifically and always used to treat serious medical illnesses (like cancer drugs).  I understand that birth control treats many illnesses as well (I use it myself for additional purposes than just contraception), but I see no reason for a double standard.  Of course in a perfect world there would BE no co-pays.  Hell, my own co-pays for doctor visits just went up last month.  I wonder if that’s no coincidence with the new healthcare mandates? 

@hot_metalhead@xanga @flapper_femme_fatale@xanga- I wouldn’t waste my breath on this guy.  He is a well-known troll on xanga, formerly loborn (if you’ve heard of him) and his name is Curtis.  Xanga has banned several of his usernames and he keeps making new ones.  Nobody takes him seriously because he is incapable of an intelligent argument.  If we all ignore him maybe he’ll shrivel up and die, or at least give up.

If you wanna lose weight, you don’t eat as much. If you want to have less back strain, you carry less weight. I think that if someone is having so much sex they’re going broke, they should stop having that much sex! It’s that simple.

@Ailean@xanga - Rush has expressed his outrage over the Viagra thing many times. But because his commentary only concerned men, it went unnoticed.

Call women to account and all hell breaks loose.

@jayne_b@xanga - Or they could go to Congress and ask for an entirely new federally funded welfare program.

She is prostitute if you believe what she said. She wants other to pay for her to have sex. And she is also a fake and a set up. Much like this entire issue

I just can’t take anything he says seriously. But if anyone ever said this to my face seriously or not I would fucking knock them out. I am so done with this “argument”.

@lilblucherrygrl@xanga - So your response to someone who thinks differently then you is a threat of violence. Which side of the gas chambers and killing fields have we heard that before?

@lilblucherrygrl@xanga - Do you understand what Rush is saying at all ?

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - They probably wouldn’t ask, they’d demand it because it’s the working class that has to take care of everyone else – especially those who don’t want/try to work for themselves.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - By name calling and hate mongering you are proclaiming yourself the loser. 

I present valid arguments while all you do is presented long winded, drug induced gibberish and lots of hatred. If you didn’t hate so much you would not have to take so many pills.

What’s really pathetic is that most Xangans see your hatred and are enthralled by it.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - true.  sorry, my urge to respond to stupid comments gets the better of me sometimes  

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - i’m on birth control and haven’t had sex in roughly four months.  clearly, you’re being a bigot by declaring that all women on birth control are promiscuous, or even sexually active.  and so is Rush.  you have nothing to back that statement up other than your own prejudice.  

also, being married doesn’t mean he’s having sex.  

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - The issue is that a Georgetown coed admitted before Congress that she and others were having so much sex that they were going broke and needed a federally funded program to support their promiscuity.

That not only makes her slut, but a contemptible gold digging slut. Normal people like Rush and I are outraged by that.

Why aren’t you? Why are you trying so desperately to change the subject?

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Goes both ways doesn’t it? Forgive me but I am tired of hearing the words prostitute and slut incorrectly. And I am going to tell you ahead of time that our conversation is going to get nowhere. There are opinions that are simply opinions and then there are opinions that could turn into into laws that fuck the rest of us over. So I take this issue just as seriously as you but for completely different reasons. We might as well end it here.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - also, you seem to be ignoring a large part of her testimony concerning a friend who could no longer afford birth control to treat polycystic ovary syndrome, or another part where she mentions how birth control could be used to treat another woman’s endometriosis.  

in your *ahem* professional opinion, are those diseases occurring only among sluts?  and please, don’t dodge the question.  i want to see if you actually watched the testimony that you linked to.  otherwise, you have no business making conclusions about Sandra Fluke’s personal sex life.  

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - Cannot agree with more.

He has always been an ugly man to me and now he confirmed it.

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - Using legitimate health problems to get funding for promiscuous sex is contemptible and freakish.

This issue is about contraception and nothing else. Were it about legitimate health needs contraception wouldn’t be an issue. Were the issue about health, a medical expert, not a college coed would be giving testimony.

The Democrat Party is now trying to sell Americans on the idea that we need nationalized medicine because the world revolves around a woman’s vagina and it’s horrifically insatiable sexual appetite.

Women should be outraged at this. For like affirmative action, welfare and gay rights, it divides us into warring groups and sets one preferred group over another.

@lilblucherrygrl@xanga - You are not the judge of what is correct or incorrect. Rush used the words “slut” and “prostitute” according to their real definitions.

That you take offense at the real meaning of words does not give you right or reason to shut down discussion.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - 

“ The issue is that a Georgetown coed admitted before Congress that she and others were having so much sex that they were going broke and needed a federally funded program to support their promiscuity.”
you must be deaf, because that’s not what i heard.  not to mention, birth control pills (unlike condoms) is not a frequency-based commodity.  so your notion that the amount of birth control used correlates to how often someone has sex is illogical.  
“Why aren’t you?”
my boyfriend has been freaking out about school too much lately.  and i don’t enjoy half-assed sex.  i’d rather go without than turn sex into an obligation for him.  besides, my vibrator works just fine.  i remain on birth control, though, because without it my periods are extremely painful and long.  

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - 

“Using legitimate health problems to get funding for promiscuous sex is contemptible and freakish.”
i rest my case  thank you for responding to my comments, but you are clearly too blinded by your bigotry to comprehend that birth control can play a medical role in one’s health for many diseases completely unrelated to sex.  i think that continuing this conversation will be a waste of my time.  i should have learned that lesson the last time we spoke.  

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - Your moral deafness is your own shortcoming. The testimony of the Georgetown coed was laughable.

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - Calling people with differing opinions “racist-bigot-homophobe-mentally-retarded” is the usual response when someone can’t muster a reasonable argument.

There is no reason on earth why others should be obligated to pay for someone’s sex habits.

Our lives are our own responsibility. We cannot obligate others to pay for our needs and still maintain liberty and morality in our society.

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - Ohhhh, so it’s Loborn.  That explains it.  Stirring the shitpot under a different name with a different picture.  Awesome

@passionate_kisses579@xanga - Actually sometimes viagra is used for medical purposes.. Not as much as birth control though, just letting you know

@hot_metalhead@xanga - Yeah, like how he just accused me of being in a drug stupor out of nowhere. LOL  Funny, because I’m not on any psychotropic medication.  He is literally incapable of thinking rationally, as well as creating competent insults.

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - You poor girl, lol.  Once you tear his bullshit to pieces, he will literally ignore the logic you used.  His opinion is nothing short of worthless.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - 

“Calling people with differing opinions “racist-bigot-homophobe-mentally-retarded” is the usual response when someone can’t muster a reasonable argument.”
so is calling someone a slut.  

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - oh, i know.  but sometimes, talking to dumb people reminds me of how smart i am.  it’s why i occasionally watch The Bad Girls Club.  consider it my guilty pleasure :p

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - A woman who has so much sex she has to have others pay for it is the very definition of slut.

You folks have a deep, deep problem with the meaning of words and dealing with people whose opinions are different than yours.

@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - OMG YES I used to love that show.  But then my brain exploded and I gotta say it is not a mess you want to clean up twice.  

For whom it may concern:

Bigot: is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

Misogyny: hatred, dislike, or distrust of women.

To call a woman a “slut” who uses contraception to avoid pregnancy and/or to alleviate medical/pain issues, but not a man who uses viagra IN ORDER TO have sex is showing a bias against women.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - didn’t i say our conversation was over?  or do you enjoy having the last word as much as i do?

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - What does his wife have to do with anything?  She doesn’t enter into this conversation.  I was talking about the fact that Rush Limbaugh states his opinions in the most abrasive manner possible. I couldn’t care less whether he’s married to a beautiful woman, an ugly woman, a stupid woman, or a monkey.  That’s irrelevant; he would still be an ass.

It’s to prevent children. Think of all the problems unwanted babies can cause. 

What a pig. 

Here’s the thing: Rush is a sad, old man that simply didn’t get enough ass in his youth. And that’s why he’s an asshole. We’re giving him exactly what he wants when we talk about what he says. So we should treat him like any middle school bully and ignore him. The fact of the matter is that most people don’t take him seriously and thus, he has no say in the way the world works.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Re your comment: “You are not the judge of what is correct
or incorrect. Rush used the words “slut” and “prostitute” according to
their real definitions.

That you take offense at the real meaning of words does not give you right or reason to shut down discussion.”

Rush apologized for those words Saturday saying: ” I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.”

Maybe you should consider apologizing to a few people – Rush is not above it when he recognizes a mistake. How about you? 

But you are free to say whatever you wish, I just wish you would take Seedsower’s heart off your profile picture when you go supporting the hurtful words that were used.

I am sure she would not ask you to – she has too kind a heart. She loves everyone. Maybe we should all try to be a little more like Seedsower… What do you think?

well he IS funny and entertaining.

He’s a dumbass whose opinion isn’t even relevant. 

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I think it was established that he was also against viagra and shit like that… The dude is not necessarily misogynistic. Or if he is, he’s an equal opportunity sexist (hates both men and women; I think that’s actually a fair assessment). He just finds sex immoral. Which is ridiculous and incredibly moronic… But his hatred for female sexuality is probably on-par with his hatred for male sexuality. He’s pretty anti-human sexuality.

@AmorVomnia7@xanga - True– i was actually implying this towards a misogynist Xangan.  Thanks for the response, though.

Rush Limbaugh says stuff for attention. Plain and simple. He feeds off outrage, like some kinda demented creature from the dark.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - The woman was speaking for a friend who needed the Pill not to prevent pregnancy, but for a medical ailment (cysts). How does that make her a slut? That is kinda the really confusing thing for me. And why I believe Rush Limbaugh is just saying it is get attention and get people all up in arms, which he certainly has.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - I have a question, do you know how their money was being spent? Like how they ran out of money due to to much sex?  The way I see it if you are on the pill(which seems to be the issue) you use the same amount every month no matter how many times you get laid. So my question is how does the frequency of sex equate to less money?

Don’t take this wrong but I suppose a few women do use sex to get an education. After all a college education is not inexpensive. Deterring pregnancy is a good investment to get a good education. Also part of being human does involve having a sexual identity with its feelings and urges. I hope that all the graduates of a college education remain to be still human and with feelings unlike the bigots who have only feelings in certain areas only.

Rush Limbaugh’s apology might be a little too late. More sponsors have dropped his show and the lynch mob is out to get him off the air. I wonder if he will still be contrite when he is no longer on the air?

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - We can also add the benefits of having less facial disorders( clearer complexion) when using birth control medication to the list. 

birth control on the taxpayers money or not, the guy shouldn’t have assumed something without listening to her whole story.  the guy sounds a jerk, and his put down of women is extremely hostile. maybe he’s making up for something??

and what would the taxpayers rather pay for? the welfare for the babies that follow or some pills?

no matter what anyone says, preaching abstinence does not work. 

@Digital_Angel21@xanga - I’m sorry, but Sandra Fluke was speaking about the 40% of Georgetown coeds in her law school who were going broke because they could not afford contraception.

The medical angle is a sop to guilt trip everyone into providing yet another government subsidy to people who want others to pay for their lives.

@immoral_sensei@xanga - How people spend their money is nobody’s business. It becomes everyone’s business when sexually profligate people go to Congress and beg for yet another taxpayer financed subsidy.

It is not the function of the good government to force insurance companies to provide “free” birth control pills.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - It is the government’s duty to protect the common welfare and if the common person wants to have sex(which is in my opinion is non of our business but if we are going to be in peoples business we might as well see the whole story right?) any case the government should protect them.

Btw it becomes our business when they are asking something from the government when the reason they are asking is because the  lack money. I would not mind a non-copay law for the pill if there was a need for it. Less humans = less taxes or greater  quality of life. 
I personally hate co-pays for any proscribed meds. I have seen to many people have to decide between eating and taking their needed medication and most of them were in their retirement. 

You gotta give him credit.  He spins and twists the truth like nobody I’ve ever seen.

What a complete bastard.

@immoral_sensei@xanga - The government doesn’t protect the common welfare by stealing from one segment of the population and giving those proceeds to another segment of the population.

By definition that is stealing.

And by definition, the form of government you advocate is raw tyranny.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Then you disagree with the Amrican goverment.

You pay for public schooling wether of not you were homeschooled or are homeschooling your child.

You pay for poor college student’s schooling.

You pay for the people who cant work even though you can.

You pay for goverment jobs even if their work does not directly apply to you.

You pay for libaries even if you do not use them.

You pay for medicare and medicaid even if you do not quified for it.

It’s no more disgusting than Bill Maher calling Sarah Palin a c**t, saying he can do so because he’s on HBO and doesn’t have to worry about ad sponsors.  Or Olbermann saying that S.E. Cupp’s parents should’ve had her aborted.  Or any number of things that a left-wing political entertainer has said about conservative women.

I’m not saying Rush was right for saying what he did, I’m just saying there’s clearly a bias when no one bats an eye when some liberal says these things, and yet it’s “misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation” when anyone else does it.

No matter what side you’re on, when you point fingers, there’s three more pointing back at you.

@immoral_sensei@xanga - All of those are examples of tyranny. Politicians created those programs to buy votes. And such programs further destroys liberty because the cost causes national bankruptcy. 

We are seeing that play out in Europe right now.

It’s no coincidence that Europe started going under just has Obama started his massive, never before seen in the history of mankind, deficit spending and borrowing.

The cost of massive social programs is sucking the life out of the entire global economy. 

I don’t care much for Rush. Forcing insurance companies to pay for contraceptives is, in a way, paying that person for having sex, which would be, yes, prostitution. Which should be legal, I think.

In answer to your question about men- if men were demanding that insurance companies and their workplace pay for vasectomies and condoms or the elusive male birth control pill, yeah, that would probably be an issue too.

The issue isn’t gender related, I’m not sure why nobody can grasp that. Well, maybe it is for him, I’m not sure. But for me, and others who don’t support this bill, it’s not a gender issue; it’s a rights issue and a religious issue, and government interference issue.

@PPhilip@xanga - Yep, definitely has helped mine, and it also helps to keep my hair from falling out (I have female pattern baldness, which my specific BC helps very well to conquer, if you remember from my post).  Though I actually use a kind of BC that I order from other countries so this law wouldn’t affect me, because the stubborn FDA doesn’t give a shit to bother.  

In theory, it’s offensive for anyone to demand that the rest of us pay for their sex, their abortions and their drugs, but in reality it’s a lot less offensive than paying for their abandoned welfare babies.

@DirtyAndShaken@xanga - So calling a woman a PROSTITUTE is ok…strange thinking to my point of view.  BTW…since when did one person being ignorant give LICENSE for all others to be?

@DirtyAndShaken@xanga - I looked into the quotes you mention, the direct maher quote I can’t find anywhere, it was just reported by someone that he said it during a show and I can’t find an example of him talking about or confirming it.  It appears some dude said it happened and conservative bloggers ran with it.  Do you have confirmation that it actually happened?

As for the other one, I’m not olbermann fan, but he didn’t actually say that.  He said she’s a prime example of the need for planned parenthood which mostly does birth control, he was saying she shouldn’t have been born (which granted, is rude), not that she should’ve been aborted.  He may have been hinting at that, but he didn’t actually say it.  Does someone on the left occasionally say something horrible?  Sure.  But someone on the right says something horrible on a nearly constant basis.  Or do you think bill maher = rush limbaugh in terms of character?

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Actually programs like those were created in the industrial age. Big companies were taking advantage of their workers and the farmers. Theses people started rising up and fighting the system, they demanded that the feds step in but at the time the federalgovernment was funded by big business so the federalgovernmentstepped in and stopped all the protesters and outlawed boycotts. The people were not happy about this and started their own political parties most notably the Progressive Party. It was this party that challenged and forced the government to step in for the welfare of its people. If you want I can go in to greater detail about that era.

So those programs were not created to just get votes, they were created for change to get the poor a fighting chance to make it big.

(btw its cheaper to fund birth control than to fund an orphaned  child )

@immoral_sensei@xanga - Sorry, but Woodrow Wilson was writing about progressivism back in 1890. Progressivism is about installing an all-knowing, all-powerful elite in the government and having them rule over the unwashed masses.

Human rights, workers rights, women’s rights, minority rights is all a ruse used to fool the witless into giving up their liberty and subjecting themselves to ruthless, pitiless tyranny.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - What does Woodrow Wilson’s writing about progressive ideals in the gilded age have to do with with some tyranny conspiracy plot? If you want I can provide scollarly documentation to back my clams.  I have a test over this Thursday, I have the the information in front of me. If you want I can go over the everything that lead up to the gilded age as well.

edit: I am watching the video of the law student and I have yet to find where she says due to her friends having to much sex they cant afford the pill any more. I have found where she says that the woman she has talked to(some of them even being lesbians who don’t have to worry about being prego) were taking the pill for medical conditions. 

@immoral_sensei@xanga - There is no tyranny conspiracy plot. Progressivism is the belief that government can be used to enforce “social justice”.  A government that powerful must become a tyranny.

This is the realm of political science and philosophy not conspiracies.

So when self interested politicians promise social security, welfare, socialized medicine, and no child left behind, they are offering tyranny because to implement such programs requires a government so strong that it must strangle the producers of a society out of their wealth in order to divide that wealth among the recipients of said programs.

And since there is never enough wealth to go around, the politicians continually call for more taxes on the rich.

Sound familiar?

That man is a disgusting example of humanity at its lowest! 

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Your problem seems to be with the politics more than the issues.  

How about this we list the problems and give solutions. 
Problem: women cant afford health care because the meds they need are 
contraceptives and religious institution have moral problem with contraceptives. 
solution1: have someone else pay for it.
Problem: corrupt political leadersSolution: elect people who don’t want to be in office. 
Also it progreive views  are promote equality, not socialized Justice.  example, I want to have the same voting and working rights as men do, but I do not want to punish males for being them self’s or having personal views that don’t mach the poplar ideas.
*note I still do not see how Wilson has anything to do with this other than being a progressive. 

@immoral_sensei@xanga - The issues ARE the politics. 

And whatever solutions are devised, they must not include stealing the property and liberty of others.

@agnophilo@xanga - I think that they are all in the business of entertainment and someone on both sides will always say something “shocking” and “appalling”, and we’ll hear their names and the repeat of their statements over and over again.  It all works in their favor.  It’s publicity and entertainment for someone.  I never said I like it or support it.  I am personally turned off by it from any talk show or personality that feels that’s what’s necessary to make their point.  It’s free speech – speak as you will.  There are consequences, as is shown by sponsors leaving on Rush’s behalf.  Imus was fired for calling someone a nappy-headed hoe.  And on and on.  

As for Maher, I don’t know about the actual video/audio evidence that he called her that, but I did see the video of him saying he called her a realllllly bad name a couple times, but that he can do that because he’s on HBO and he doesn’t have sponsors. That video is all over the place.
@galadrial@xanga - At what point did I say it’s “okay”?  See my reply to Agno above.  My point was that this isn’t a one-sided issue.  If you lean left, you think that the right says more appalling things.  If you lean right, you think that the left says more appalling things.  

@DirtyAndShaken@xanga - Funny, I’ve run a blog for a decade.

I managed to do so throughout the entire Bush Administration without once calling him a single name, despite my utter disgust, and distaste for both the man, and his lack of leadership. Even when he slunk onto Ground Zero when my husband was working there with the first responders.

But according you to, because I “lean left”, I HAD to do that.

PROVE it. i don’t speak for the world, or even the “left”.
I just have no patience for people who assume they know what I SHOULD say…or will.

Either be better yourself, or stop talking.

@galadrial@xanga - Sure. Thanks for the advice.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Then you come up with a better solution.

@immoral_sensei@xanga - The solution is that each person take responsibility for themselves like always. 

Instituting a tyrannical government that steals from one segment of the population in order to benefit another is no solution.

It’s like selling your freedom in exchange for a government benefit.  America was founded in order to avoid exactly that.

@sometimestheycomebackanyway@xanga - Ok, what about the woman who lost her ovary because her school’s health plan would not cover the meds she needed?  What of  my self who depends on the Americangovernment for my schooling?

America was founded to have the ability to worship the christian god freely. That is why the first English settlers came to the new world.

@immoral_sensei@xanga - Government involvement in medicine, education and the economy causes catastrophic inflation.

Then the politician comes back offering even more government as the solution. But that only makes the problems even worse.

Whatever problems people have with their insurance plans, government is not the solution. In a free society that is awash in wealth there is enough money to care for people in need.

Once the government takes over, however, there is never enough money or services. Haven’t you ever noticed that?

The same goes for the cost of education. As long as government foots the bill, college administrates keep voting themselves raises and keep raising tuition.  Haven’t you noticed that nobody ever protests the exorbitant salaries of college administrator and ever increasing tuition costs?

It’s all due to government involvement.