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I’m against animal testing but I think there is no need to be overly harsh because it is certainly an ethical dilemma. It’s the Chinese government that requires the testing, what are they to do, completely pull out of the market over there? Many, many companies say they “don’t test on animals” when in fact some of the ingredients they get from suppliers are/have to be. I don’t really think it’s being “shifty” when it is common in the industry to do this, you just have to be aware.

Estee Lauder has a pretty big market in China so that’s why they’re willing to sell out their ethics on it. But that doesn’t even make sense! Why would a company who hasn’t had a problem with safety have to sell the same products but with animal testing? I mean they’ve been around for a while, their pretty much people tested. 

I think it’s still misleading. I personally would think “cruelty free” pertained to animals and as a vegetarian would not buy their products based on the knowledge that they use animal testing (In fact, let me go throw out some of their samples). Still, $100 million is a lot of money! But I guess they probably know they won’t get that much. 

I think labels like “organic”, eco friendly, cruelty free, etc,, are all just clever marketing crap.

I agree with @MoonFaeEyryan . I think it’s just another one of those excuses they use to get you to buy the makeup. ”Hey this isn’t tested on animals,doesn’t that make you want to buy it?”

That’s disgusting.  I’m vegan, so I stick to the Leaping Bunny stuff.

I wonder how they intend to justify the damages they seek?  mental anguish?  Couldn’t they have used the technicality that humans are animals, so therefore their products are being animal tested?

Wow, China requires it… that’s pretty fucking sick.  

@xsimplepleasuresx@xanga - :) I like your argument

@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - Thanks!

But that bunny looks so damn kyyyute!

That is part of the problem with sourcing this shit out; different countries have different rules and procedures for getting your product on the market. If you are truly concerned about this, I just encourage anyone to look up where these companies make their products and then refer to those countries standards. 

But half of this stuff is like marketing anyway. People tend to be okay with paying so much more for something if it has “organic” on the label, and as it says her in the post, the FDA regulations aren’t really out there to figure out who is exaggerating and who is actually being forthcoming about their product. 

Maybe these companies don’t animal test the product being sold in the US. So then your actual products are cruelty free. Just not the company itself. It’s sick that china requires this. =/ 

This does not surprise me at all. Big companies do this all the time. They get someone else to do the dirty work so they can say that they’re cruelty free and have vegan/veggie customers. This isn’t to say ALL companies do this. There are some that really are cruelty free but they’re few and far between. 

@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - they definitely are. And I always get worried when I see a “pure” or “natural” version of a company’s product because that immediately makes me believe there is some bad, unnatural stuff in their normal product that isn’t good for me. Usually makes me buy neither (because I’m not going to pay a premium for the new “pure” or “natural” or “simple” product by that brand).

I’m sorry, but that’s a little crazy. I’m one of those people who doesn’t check for cruelty free products, mainly because if I find something that works for my body then I’m going to keep using it (whether it’s animal tested or not)….I’m just heartless I guess…

@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - I can agree with that…

Well, a lawsuit is way overboard. But I will definitely be boycotting their products because they have been testing on animals. I mean hell, what ever happened to the little asterisk that you put next to statements on products for which the asterisk indicates fine print that would say something like “By the way, in foreign markets some animal testing may occur.” 

lol, they won’t get $100 million, no way. Lawsuits like this just make people look ridiculous. But I agree with @MoonFaeEyryan@xanga that these labels are just marketing. If you’re that concerned, do your research and don’t just rely on the label on the package.

Oh no! The bunnies!

Etsy and 100 percent pure cosmetics has vegan products– I buy these kinds of products mainly because they don’t give me allergies (ingredients are kept basic). The scented cosmetics like Estee Lauder gives me allergies.

@xhalesx@revelife - I don’t think you’re heartless. You’re not the first or last person to ignore messages on the packaging, or other literature that a beauty product manufacturer might print in regards to animal testing. I am guilty for not checking for those types of issues involved with particular products as well.

@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - I agree!  However, I don’t really see how animal testing is necessary considering that products may not react the same way for humans.  The products sometimes react differently for each individual.
Many products I use have statements marked on them that the manufacturer doesn’t participate in animal testing but I never really considered checking for that.  I just use the products that work for me.  Even if the products were just tested on humans, wouldn’t it be considered cruel if an individual reacted poorly to a particular product?  (Caused pain, irritation, etc.)

@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - My thoughts exactly.