Ellen DeGeneres decided to take her opening monologue and instead of delivering the funny, delivered a whole lotta truth to her audience and viewers. Being taped the day Prop 8 was appealed and declared unconstitutional, Ellen took the time to address another issue affecting her in the media: her haters that have become her motivators. Ellen recently became a spokesperson for J.C. Penney and a group called ‘One Million Moms’ has been trying to get her fired based solely on the fact that she’s gay.
‘One Million Moms’ took the issue to their Facebook page, issuing a statement implying that by keeping Ellen as their spokesperson, they would be on the pro-gay bandwagon and that those with ‘traditional values’ would no longer shop there. Well, J.C. Penney didn’t agree and kept the funny lady as their spokesperson and the outpouring of comments on the site is proving the exact opposite. Many of the comments said that because the store stuck with Ellen, they would actually shop there more. [ via Entertainment Weekly]
In true Ellen form, she brought light to a serious situation asking how come nobody has a problem with the Pillsbury doughboy. He does walk around naked and ask people to poke him. But she really drove her point home with her closing sentence. “I stand for honesty, equality, kindness, compassion, treating people the way you want to be treated, and helping those in need. To me, those are traditional values. That’s what I stand for.”
It’s things like this that make me love Ellen even more. She’s able to take a topic that obviously is extremely close to her heart, and articulate herself in a way that isn’t preaching or telling you what to believe in. She merely states what should be the obvious, that equality and compassion matter. To me, when representing a brand or anything for that matter it doesn’t get any more worthy than that.
The episode aired today at 4 p.m.
What do you guys think of what Ellen said? How great it is that J.C Penney didn’t back down?
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It’s GREAT that JCP didn’t back down. I never shop there but I’ll start!
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How can anyone hate Ellen?! She’s fantastic.
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One million moms=one million bigots.
I LOVE Ellen. She is a vegan, nonjudgmental, funny, and compassionate person. Anyone who has the audacity and nerve to protest her rightful employment at JC Penny is a disgusting, moral degenerate and should be ashamed.
Also, dear JCPenny:
I am shopping at one of your stores next time I get clothes, BECAUSE you added Ellen as your spokesperson. Just like the many other fans.
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…I didn’t think it was possible to love her more.
That last line about “traditional values” was brilliant.
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She is awesome. I’m not gay but I would give her a big ol’ kiss.
daisy / 597 posts
Here’s a BIG shocker for everyone who’s not exactly up to date.
Gay people are everywhere.
They work where you work, they shop where you shop, they sponsor things you shop at, places you shop at sponsor THEM, etc etc.
The list goes on and on.
So, honestly? Unless you want to start an EPIC war (which will go no where) you have one of two options. Accept it and move on, or stop going out, buying clothes, buying food, coffee, disney passes, gas, starbucks… etc.
You don’t have to “SUPPORT” the gay life style, but to act like it’s not everywhere is silly to me. To try and “fight” it for whatever reason is even… MORE silly to me.
If you’re that concerned about it, be kind, curteous, loving, caring, etc, and pray for them when you’re not around.
Trying to knock them all out of their places is for lack of better word, “impossible”… And btw, you ARE supporting a gay person every time you pretty much do anything now days.
Roll with it.
And again, if you feel that it conflicts with your religion, then pray about it, but remain kind, respectful, friendly, and everything else to EVERYONE.
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Hoorah, Ellen!
ranunculus / 3285 posts
She’s such an inspiration
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Anyone who hates Ellen DeGeneres is seriously a heartless person. She is nothing short of awesome.
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Ellen is pretty classy I must say. she handles herself so well.
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Dear One Million Moms,
I’m glad you’re standing up for the future of your children. Too bad I never see you at the local park planting trees, or at the PTA meetings discussing fund cuts, or put more than a penny in the offering basket for missions trying to improve conditions in Haiti or Joplin. It seems you have nothing better to do than sit on your asses and troll the television and internet while your children become mindless morons that are bullies and bigots. Please continue regressing the human race back into our monkey form (uh-oh, blasphemy).
I’m at the no-kill shelters teaching children how to handle responsibility. I volunteer my Saturdays to impoverished children learning after-school activities they wouldn’t otherwise have a chance to join. I donate school supplies to the elementry school down the street that just had a budget cut. I am NOT a mother just to let you know. Just another young college student that wasn’t raised to base my morals on what is on the television. Focus on what’s going on around you and not what’s on the screens, get lives.
Love, Me.
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I love it when bigotted conservative publicity stunts backfire.
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@MiriamBeth@xanga - You rule.
@Celestial_Teapot@xanga - I was surprised. When I first saw it on O’Reilly, he pretty starkly condemned the woman from the one million bigots organization. Then, I forget the guy’s name… something Goldberg, so some Jew (I can say that b/c I’m a Jew) was very outspoken about the fringe movement among conservatives of obvious bigotry against homosexuals. Compared it to the racism against blacks in ’50s and ’60s. Right on target.
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Sorry to tell Ms. DeGeneres, but she and all other homosexuals already have rights. What they want are special rights, such as the right to be able to mock and hate everyone who disagrees with their lifestyle without worrying about any sort of backlash. If there is backlash, all they have to do is cry “Homophobia!”
in order to silence their critics.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - What is “special” about wanting to marry someone?
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It’s nice to see that a company has balls for once. And seriously, who could hate Ellen for fuck’s sake?
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@Grtt@xanga - Re-read my post, please. Your answer is right in front of your nose. If critics of the gay lifestyle voice their opposition to gay “marriage,” they get harassed and intimidated by these people. You can’t tell me that doesn’t happen. This is what I mean by special rights–homosexuals want the right to be able to harass and intimidate their critics and get away with it as though they’re the only ones in this country who have the right to free speech.
dahlia / 2747 posts
AWEAOFJOAWEOJFAOJWEFA I LOVE ELLEN FOREVER.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - Why would I re-read it? It wasn’t that long; I got it the first time. You failed to tell me what was special about wanting to marry, i.e., enter into a legal contract with, someone, though.
Homosexuals do not want a monopoly on free speech. We want to be treated equally under the law, not the church, not individuals, the law. And yes, if you want to tell me, a just-as-much-a-citizen-as-you, that I’m not entitled to the same treatment as the straight folk by my government, I’m probably going to shout a bit. I don’t believe that stops you from shouting right back at me, though. Clearly you haven’t been banned from speech yet as you’ve managed to respond to me. That said, you having the right to speak freely does not necessarily mean everyone will agree with what you’re free to say. Also, a discussion doesn’t constitute “harassment” just because someone disagrees with you.
You know, if you disagree that all Americans should be treated equally, that’s rather fine with me. You’re entitled to believe as you like. Just have the courage to say so. There is no reason to tout it off as the evil gays wanting something “special.”
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@LKJSlain@xanga - good comment. i remember seeing the sign carried by a gay person demonstrating for the right to marry. the sign said, chances are that beautiful wedding dress you wore was designed by a gay person. haha brilliant.
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i’m glad JC Penney’s stands by her.
sunflower / 290 posts
@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - wait, are you telling me even Bill O’Rielly is against this group? you know you’ve gone a bit too conservative when fox news opinion people think you’re too conservative
sunflower / 290 posts
@une_femme_catholique@xanga - everyone has the right to call others names and complain about being called names, and everyone has the right to voice their opinion no matter how offensive others find it. if this were not the case our government would have shut down the KKK and Nazi groups a long time ago.
They’re not asking for a special right to harass people, because gay and straight people have a right to harass anyone they choose, short of actually reaching the legal definition of harassment, which is actually quite hard to do.
I have yet to see a bill be put forward asking that gay people be allowed to actually meet the legal definition of harassment and get away with it, or a bill that takes away the rights of straight people to harass others
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How could anyone hate Ellen? She can talk to whales!
lily / 5148 posts
Go Ellen ;D
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@Grtt@xanga - Christians said the same thing when the issue was interracial marriage; it was wrong, it was unnatural , it was unbiblical, and in the end they lost because the courts recognized that there are far worse things human beings can do than love one another. They will lose this one too.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - Applying pressure to a company and threatening their profits because they hire a homosexual as their spokesperson is homophobia. Doing your best to keep two people from marrying because they happen to be of the same sex is homophobia.
Anytime you or anyone else tries to deny a person in the LGBTQ community the same rights you enjoy (marriage, jobs, housing, etc.), you are engaging in homophobic behavior and bigotry.
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I don’t think there’s a single thing I hate about Ellen. She’s a Saints fan, she’s hysterical, and she has values I wish more people would invite into their lives. She’s everything good in the world and the fact that JC Pennys stands by her is amazing. I will continue to shop there even more due to Ellen. That group is just a bunch of people who, instead of voicing outrage over budget cuts to school and things like that, choose to try and boycott a store due to the spokesperson, as if the clothing will be tainted by Ellen. Close-minded people are getting ridiculously old and tiring, I wish they’d just let people live their lives.
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@jenessa1889@xanga - yes, several fox news regulars have condemned them. It’s like when Hannity was screaming at the Westboro Baptist lady.
http://youtu.be/_C-2LJD4ZUY See here.
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Go Ellen, and go JCP!
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - Show me any evidence at all of Ellen Degeneres or the gay community showing ANY kind of mockery and hatred, harassment and intimidation (all the above you’ve claimed) for “everyone who disagrees with their[her] lifestyle.”
Show me what “special rights” Ellen Degeneres or the gay community in general has rallied for.
If you can’t then you have absolutely no reason for saying this, other than to deflect blame so as to minimize clear bigotry.
sunflower / 290 posts
@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I’ve seen that one before. It blew my mind because I was like “holy shit, I agree with Sean hannity. What is happening?”. Lol
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Thank you for sharing, I may not believe being gay is right, but it is everywhere and THAT, is something that should be equal, and plus she does stand for those things, and by trying to throw her down they showed that they are struggling with sin in of themselves. Hmm, think on that one.
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This makes me very, very happy.
The ad at the top of the comments section for “Breaking Dawn” however…. not so much.
xX Ame ~*~ Hana Xx
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I dig it. Go Ellen.
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oh ellen…won’t you have my babies? = )
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - Uh..what? Are you living under a rock? Out of 50 states only 7 allow legal marriages between gay citizens. In certain states gay Americans aren’t protected from being fired from their careers just for their sexual orientation. What special rights are you talking about? Laws preventing marriage and safety in the workplace are un-American and unequal, so no, gays do not “already” have their rights.
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@jenessa1889@xanga - lol they’re not that bad, just kind of dicks, especially to their liberal guests, most often. O’Reilly has some good stuff. Vannity is worse.
sunflower / 290 posts
@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - It’s the dickishness that bugs me the most, but I consider myself relatively moderate and I almost never agree with them on anything
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@jenessa1889@xanga - No I totally understand, and I consider myself moderate/libertarian for the most part as well, and mostly agree. Honestly though I think most news talk show types have that same arrogant attitude.
sunflower / 290 posts
@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - True, that’s why I like Anderson cooper. I’ve never seen him be that way. Also Jon Stewart, because he’s supposed to be a dick haha
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@jenessa1889@xanga - Love anderson. AND I REALLY LOVE STEPHEN COLBERT OMG <3
sunflower / 290 posts
@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I do love him, but as the original and my first intelligence-based crush Jon always gets a special place in my heart =p
ranunculus / 3457 posts
@une_femme_catholique@xanga - You remind me of why I left Catholicism. Such judgmental and stuck up people…
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I think Ellen is pretty darn cool! I am also glad that JCPenney didn’t change their mind because of the media backlash. It must be that they believe Ellen can represent their brand well, and feel that she will add value to their customers’ shopping experiences. She has many great traits that has nothing to do with her sexuality.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - I am Catholic and totally disagree with their opinion. I hate that my religion is judged based on people like that…..ugh
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I actually work at a Christian bookstore (though am not Christian myself, spare me the humor of this), and am amazed what some of the people say when they think they can speak freely to someone who believes as they do. I have people come in talking about how gays are plotting to bring down the constitution and America. That it’s part of the “gay agenda”. You eventually realize that these people are just too afraid of change, even though they try to convince you it’s because they care about your soul. In reality they care about themselves and thinking that if the nation plunges into “sin”, so they will too.
I also know that the bible says that anything that is made a law is holy, otherwise it would not have been made a law (if it weren’t in the best interest of the majority involved). So, that some states have legalized gay marriage does not make the union unholy in the eyes of God. I don’t know, it just upsets me that it can be “unholy” in one place and “holy” in another, and that people still try to argue these decisions when, by their own scripture, it’s not a sin.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - You are an ugly person. How is wanting the right to get married a “special” right? They already have the right to voice of their opinion. This wasn’t what Ellen’s issue is… its the issue of getting married.
Good for you Ellen!
daisy / 734 posts
@AbnormalButSane@xanga - I know right?! I saw the headline and was like “Somebody can possibly hate Ellen? Like, that’s remotely possible?”
orchid / 242 posts
Ellen DeGeneres is my favorite person on the face of the planet.
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omg i’m gonna go to JCP for EVERYTHING now. so glad my mom still lets me use her credit card, even though i moved out.
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Thumbs up for Ellen! Loved this intro
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She rules.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - … really? Gay people want “equal rights” just so they can belittle others? Is that their driving force?
Pretty sure it’s to stand on level ground with all of the people protesting them, committing hate crimes, telling them they are going to burn in hell or whatever for something that they can’t help in the first place.
I highly doubt that any homosexuals are sitting there, thinking about how the second they are given marriage rights that any human deserves, they’re going to go commit a string of hetero-hate crimes and hetero-bash publicly and tell straight people that they’re going to hell for being in love with the opposite gender. I’ve yet to meet a homosexual who thinks that being heterosexual is “wrong” the way gay-bashers think AND vocalize being gay is.
They aren’t asking for special treatment. They’re asking for the rights every human is entitled to. Legally, marriage vs. domestic partnership comes with a lot of perks that otherwise, homosexuals would not be entitled to.
I highly doubt they are supporting their right to gay marriage just so they can go out and shout at people about it, tell them they were (and are) completely wrong. And even if they did, who’s going to condemn them for free speech? They’ve been listening to people shouting at them, suffering hate crimes about how wrong they are for being homosexual for a LONG, LONG time.
orchid / 198 posts
I think it is telling that those who have responded to une_femme_catholique are basically making her point. Nice to know someone can offer a dissenting opinion and still get chastised for it, not to mention being labelled and given names.
By the way, I disagree with homosexuality, disagree with Ellen being one of JC Penny’s spokespeople, and also see the homosexual “rights” movement as one for special rights just as une_femme_catholique does. And by the way, marriage refers to opposites or those having different parts and attachments being joined, not those with similar parts and attachments (one can’t marry a lugnut to a lugnut, but a lugnut to a bolt)….
tulip / 22 posts
I didn’t know Ellen had haters! How sad. She’s so delightful.
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well said, ellen.
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this is another perfect example of christian groups focusing on the wrong thing. The bible says that true religion is taking care of the widowed and fatherless. One million moms: instead of watching JC Penney commercials, go volunteer at a nursing home, adopt or work in a program that helps those in need. Your shopping agendas will suddenly seem ridiculously pious and arrogant.
I’d like to know if any of those millions of moms wear makeup or not. Ellen is a maybelline spokesperson and I guarantee most of those women have at least one maybelline product in their makeup bag. The fact that they don’t boycott other famous spokepersons that have children out of wedlock, which is very nontraditional (in the sense that they used the word) and extremely prevalent, shows how bigoted they are.
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@une_femme_catholique@xanga - I didn’t think being a spokesperson was a “special right”. There are lots of straight spokespeople who are despicable human beings but no one is boycotting them. How is it crying, “homophobia” when the one specifically stated thing they want to crucify Ellen over is her homosexuality?
peony / 1 posts
The first time I saw Ellen she was very young and as funny as ever, she is just a nice, decent human being, these million nut bags do not speak for this mother, I’d be proud to have her as a daughter, good on JCP. What is the saddest thing is that there are over a million moms that are bigots and will teach their children to be so too.
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I think it’s so silly, honestly. Just because their spokeswoman is homosexual doesn’t make me want to shop there any more or any less than I currently do. She’s simply a human just like me. Her life is her own, and for what it’s worth, she seems to be a fairly respectable person, you know?
I’m of the belief that homosexuality isn’t what God ordained. However, I don’t believe it is right to degrade the people simply because of their choice of lifestyle. I have love for everyone. I view it as an “I support the people without always supporting their decisions.” You know? People will disagree with me on MANY issues throughout the course of my life. Same for you. Just because of this one issue, I don’t see a point to changing the way I see it. You’re still a person, and I have all the love in the world for you.
Thank you for sharing this.
Ellen is respectable, considering everything she stands for and has been through. I appreciate people like her, regardless to how I feel about her personal life choices. Kind of like my friends who choose to abuse drugs. I love them just the same. I don’t support their decision to do drugs at all, but they know that. They also know that I will always love them the same as all my sober friends. To me, they’re people. They’re human. You know?
So, while I’m indifferent on JCPenny’s decision to keep her, because I see the pros and cons of each side, I do respect Ellen.
orchid / 198 posts
what about a human to another human? We’re not lugnuts or bolts…unless you’re referring to sexual parts. I’m not chastising, just asking. –FuntimeswithGoldie@xanga
Understood. However, the concept is the same: the ways that gays use the human body for sexual gratification were not created for such activity. No problem with people being friends, but at an intimate level, the parts don’t fit for same-sex “adult” recreation. It in fact abuses the body….
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@JandJinJapan@xanga - and you know for certain it abuses the body because you have engaged in this activity, experienced both sides, and come to a conclusion?
So…Marriage refers penis and vagina, lug nut and a bolt. Now that’s one I haven’t heard.
Good grief why do people with your beliefs tend to focus so much on sex…? (yes I go on fox news from time to time)
“lug nuts, adult recreation, intimate parts being joined, attachments, sexual gratification, adult recreation.”
This is an article about Ellen’s family values- nothing to do with what goes on in the bedroom.
orchid / 198 posts
Yes I do know, AncoraImparo@xanga, because I have studied the facts of the human body and listened to medical professionals lecture and speak publicly concerning the abuse that is done to the human body when people engage in homosexual “sex”. The human anus was noit built to take a man’s penis, nor a finger: it was built to aid in expelling refuse form the human body. A simple Health and Wellness class taught me this, as did several medical professionals when dealigh with this subject. So sex is an unimportant part of a marriage? It’s just a thing to do when two people are bored and have nothing else to do? It isn’t about growing more intimate with one’s wife or husband? It isn’t about growing closer both physically and emotionally? Sex is about joining male and female together. Male and male can no more be joined together than…well…two bolts (that’s called an analogy) or two plugs. Two women can no more be joined than two electircal outlets (again, an analogy). Ellen’s “family” values promote male-male, female-female abuse (again, joining is impossible), and as such I, as an American, with all the rights and freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution of the USA, have every right to speak out against homosexuality wherever it may appear. Thank you for your reply.
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@JandJinJapan@xanga - I certainly agree with your right to speak about fingering anuses all you want.
But that’s just about all we agree on.
Ok, I’m off to abuse m’lady. Have a swell day!
orchid / 198 posts
Sorry to hear you take that tone, AncoraImparo@xanga - ”Fools make a mock at sin…” –Proverbs 14.9
Have a great one yourself….