If your frame of reference for what it takes to be a mean girl is the 2004 flick with Lindsay Lohan, think again. Although the movie had super slim and super beautiful girls as the ones victimizing the halls of their school, a new study found that as of recently, this may not be the case. Bullying has made its’ way to the forefront of our society, so it should come as no surprise that researchers are trying to figure out why… but what they found may surprise you. Or maybe not.
While in the media or maybe even in your own experiences, the way bullying is often portrayed is the “popular” clique or a group of “skinny” girls picking on those who are maybe less fortunate or don’t look the same as they do. We typically see the “mighty” preying on the “weak.” Now, I am in no way, shape or form condoning this or saying that it’s always accurate, I’m just saying what we often see.
Well, a recent study done by Queens University shows that as of recently the opposite has been holding true. According to the study, girls that are overweight are three times more likely than “slimmer” girls to be the ones bullying their peers. If you want to see it by the numbers, “obese girls were 1.32 times more likely to be physically victimized than normal weight females and 1.52 times more likely to be the physical bully.” Basically, the study is showing that when it comes to bullying, it’s often a vicious cycle. [via National Post]
From often being bullied due to their weight, the study found that these girls are essentially switching roles. The victims in a way are becoming the perpetrators and projecting what they went through onto others. If you think about it, being bullied often leads to many people holding in their feelings and that same resulting anger. If we’ve learned anything from the recent surge of young people taking their own lives due to bullying, it’s that talking about what’s going on is the answer — self-inflicting harm or, in this case, inflicting pain on someone else isn’t.
I think what’s important to take out of this is that bullying in and of itself is the issue. Even though the study is showing that these girls that are overweight are more likely to become bullies, it’s also telling you the reason why: because they were often bullied themselves. At the end of the day, it’s important to acknowledge the cycle; the fact that with each cause there’s also a direct effect. The reality is that no matter which side you fall on: victim or perpetrator, slim or heavy, bullying isn’t the answer. The fact that these girls are inflicting on others what they themselves have gone through just shows you how bad the issue has gotten. It shows that it’s time to make a change.
So what do you guys think? Do you think bullying is often a cycle? Any ways you can think of to stop it?
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People have ALWAYS inflicted their pain on others. I think schools can lessen this by telling the students, your words or actions may cause someone to bring a gun to school and shoot you.
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Fat people are mean! I’ve known this for a while now.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
People who don’t love themselves are a-holes, and usually people who have a very undesirable physical trait don’t love themselves.
orchid / 148 posts
i was bullied my entire childhood and teenage years. i have always been small, but had no confidence whatsoever because of the people who called me names (ugly, airhead, wimp, flaky, and those were the tame ones) and hurt me.
now that you mention it, most of the bullies were really heavy. i never thought of it before. i’m always careful (at least i HOPE i am) to not make insensitive comments about people’s weight. anyway, back to the bullies. i wanted to be their friends…but they were just SO MEAN. only as an adult have i realized that those people weren’t my friends.
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omg i just dont a post on this film i love this film its ace but yes i agree bulling is not nice at all …x
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This doesn’t surpirse me, but it’s very important to keep in mind that usually the reason they are bullies is because they are tired of being victims. I think the key is not to decide which group is doing it, but to decide why it’s being done and then fix that.
rose / 802 posts
I was always bullied by Mean Girls-esque girls – thin, pretty, popular.
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Fits my experience. Once of my bullies was a big girl, not only in weight but height.
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In my experience it seems like the kids that get picked on do end up lashing out, or else taking their lives.
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I think you pretty much nailed it with the “vicious cycle” comment. Thanks for this post.
orchid / 205 posts
@britney1anbe@xanga - WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST TYPE?!
daffodil / 1607 posts
awww but what about santa claus
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Yeah I was (sort of) bullied most by the two fat girls in school. Weird lol. The skinnier girls didn’t bother me as much, but there were mean skinny/pretty girls too. I just had the most trouble with the fat ones.
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Also, Mean Girls= so hilarious
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if you think of bullying as a type of abuse and that most abuse is characterized by a somewhat cyclical/chain sort of events, this isn’t very surprising at all… sadly ):
peony / 1 posts
@TheMushyPear@xanga - Because we’ve been treated like shit from you our whole lives.
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This is gonna sound so politically incorrect, but seriously the meanest people I’ve ever seen in my life were also incredibly um… let’s just say insecure. It’s because they’re so discontent with their own lives that they try to take other people’s happiness away. If you’re unhappy with yourself, then that’s your problem and you can deal with it however you want. Don’t go lashing out at girls who actually have respect for themselves.
On the same note, I’ve never met a pretty bully. All the pretty girls I know don’t bother anyone else. I don’t think this would be a coincidence, and here’s a study that shows why.
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Duh, every fat girl I’ve ever met has been a huge bitch, to everyone, completely unprovoked.
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Well, I’m shocked to even hear this only because I was a ‘big’ girl in school and I got a lot of, shall we say, smack for it (for lack of a more appropriate word)
But I never went against anyone. I knew I’d meet horrible, horrible people and that’s all there was to it.
I was a very kind person to everyone. Teachers loved me because I was respectful and obedient.
I had a few ‘friends’ but they never had my back whenever it came to being bullied by someone else.
To be honest, I don’t think we can slap a stereotype on a bully, albeit my never having literally met a particularly large female version.
Anyone, in my opinion, is capable of hurting someone else. It doesn’t matter if you’re black or white, thick or thin, drop dead gorgeous or plain jane, tall or short; we all are capable of doing harm, whether it be physical or emotional.
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that mean girls is a good film but bulling is not and no one should be bullied.@SlackerSociety@xanga -
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If you think about the stereotypical bullies you see in cartoons and amongst young kids on tv, they’re always the big boys.
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Notice that the bullying being talked about here is physical bullying. Big people are generally more able to physically bully because they are well, bigger than everyone else. If they have low self esteem because of their weight, and were verbally bullied by others, then they will likely continue the vicious cycle.
This really shouldn’t come to a surprise to anyone. One thing to take from this is to be nice to the fat girl. She might get tired of everyone’s shit and start beating people up.
The “mean girl” type of bullies don’t use physical means, but verbal and emotional means. They usually have friends backing them up and participating. It’s a whole different type of bullying, but just as bad when your a girl. I think that was kinda the point of the film.
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thats so fetch
tulip / 14 posts
@Thatslifekid@xanga - How unfortunate is that?
tulip / 14 posts
You guys all have some very interesting points. I think the thing to remember is that this isn’t lumping one stereotype onto one group of people. Anybody of any shape, size, religion, color is capable of inflicting harm on another person..and unfortunately receiving it as well. The point is to draw attention to it, so we can try and prevent it from happening — whichever way it’s coming from. Don’t you think?
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Yeah, Im not obese but Ive always bordered on normal-overweight. I got bullied for it and now I’m the biggest bitch ever, not gonna lie. Im insecure as fuck. But it IS partially because I was bullied by thin girls when I was younger (even as recent as senior year of high school, LOL).
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Most of the girls that I remember being bullies were usually overweight and poor. They grew up with several members in their family and generally had uneducated parents. They portrayed their unhappiness onto the ones around them. There was nothing that teachers could do to them that was worse than what their mother could.
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I think anybody can be a bully; regardless of how they look or what they think of themselves. People bully others to (over)compensate how insecure they feel inside.
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@E_Rose_Moore - Yeah, I just realized that too. Most of my bullies were overweight.. in fact, I think all of them were. >_>
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I was overweight in school and never bullied anyone. I was bullied, along with friends of mine who identified with me. The thin, popular girls made my life a living hell.. so I don’t know that I really believe this all that much, at least from my own experiences.
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Well yea – if you were fat and ugly, wouldn’t you be pissed off too?
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So when fat girls do it it’s because it was done to them. But when skinny girls do it, it’s because they’re bitches.
Where does personal responsibility come in? At some point, you have to draw a line and say, no matter WHAT happened to you when you were younger, you may not harrass another person.
Where are the parents?
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This, honestly, is both accurate and inaccurate. Bullying is a cycle, I got bullied for my weight in high school until one day I’d had it and slammed a girl’s head inside of a locker door. At that point, yes, I was the bully, but up until then? No. After that? Never again. Yeah, I’m not skinny BUT that in no way, shape or form means that I’m a bully or was after that moment of aggression towards my own aggressor. And 1.32 – 1.52x more likely to bully? That’s reliable? I don’t really think so. That’s not a high number,
AND what/where/who was the study done on? Was it in a typical small-town school, a larger school? Suburb? Inner-city? I think we need to take those questions into consideration too. Were there actually people going through the hallways and classrooms and bathrooms and locker halls at every single moment during the day to monitor who bullied who? What about the notes passed in the classrooms from child to child? What grade were the kids in this study in? Did they know they were being watched?
I’d like to see more proof, and when I researched it I did not find reliable answers to my questions as I posted to you above. Fat or skinny, you can be nice. It isn’t necessarily (it can be sometimes!) your weight that has anything to do with you bullying or being bullied. A lot of times, and I know this for a fact, it’s how you’re raised or how you’re treated outside of school. School makes it easy for kids to be bullies, but home molds you, your friends mold you, your school is simply a way for someone to gain easy access into victimizing someone else. Weight, honestly, has a minute factor.
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I didn’t look at ALL the comments here, but I do not think I saw one pertaining to what seems so obvious to me. Poorer people in this country are heavier, on average. Poorer people also tend to be less educated and attend less prestigious schools in rougher neighborhoods. Rougher neighborhoods tend to have more violence, including among children.
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@millionofstars@xanga - I’ve always thought this type of saying was comforting, but inaccurate.
I think most people who are mean act that way because they are, just like kind-hearted people tend to be nicer, and stupid people get held back in school more often than smart people.
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There’s only one thing that stops a bully. Pain. Either the parents discipline them, with superior authority, or someone knocks out a few of their teeth. Bullying is, at it’s roots, the projecting of power in order to suppress the feelings of inferiority.
Parents using discipline reminds the bully they’re not the authority they think they are, and a fellow student blackening an eye or two reminds them they’re not as tough as they think they are.
But, oh goodness, let’s not teach our kids to fight anymore. It’s unsafe. Let’s just let the bullies torment them, and sometimes physically harm them. Being the victim is much safer than standing up for yourself…
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I was never bullied by the mean girl type… I grew up in the city… It was just strait up fights if you wanted to try and intimidate me…. I am small but the trouble makers were both big and small…
When I saw mean girls I didn’t understand why people would be so afraid of some chicks like that… I woulda threw down. If I seen some one getting picked on I woulda threw down for them too.
rose / 812 posts
This post is a load of crock.
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Of course it’s a cycle! If you didn’t get bullied, you wouldn’t necessarily know what bullying is and therefore wouldn’t necessarily be able to partake in it. But once you’ve been bitten by the bug, it’s hard not to bite back, whether it be through insults at the people who bullied you, or someone else you come across.
I do agree with others’ points about insecurity, but it’s not always the bigger people who start the cycle. You have to be judged in order to feel negatively by yourself, and that judgement can come from anyone. Everyone plays their part one way or another.
That’s how I see it anyway. I mean, I know for sure when someone attacks me I want to dish it right back at them. Whether I do or not is a completely different point.
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I recall the few bullies that we had in school as being completely different in their backgrounds and appearance. Bullies, in my experience, come in all shapes and sizes and they are ALWAYS unhappy with themselves and take it out on those around them.
I also believe that bullies are MADE at home. I am sure someone can cite the exception to my belief but, over all, children learn what they live and how they are supposed to treat people is no exception to this.
tulip / 9 posts
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all shapes and sizes bully- emotionally and physically.
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When I was 16, I got my ass whooped by a girl 3x my size. Now, I’m small, but she was also a huge bitch. I don’t think she beat me up and was a bully because she was fat. I think it was because she was poor and her parents didn’t pay attention to her or take care of her. Her brother was involved in a gang, her dad wasn’t around, and her sisters were involved with dudes in gangs as well. She was “Gangsta” and had to prove how tough she was.
Now, there are other girls I ran into who were bitches and they were probably bitches because they were fat. They felt like shit so they treated everyone else like shit. At home they were told they were great and wonderful and perfect and above everyone else, and at school, they weren’t shit. They were just like everyone else. No supriority. Well, at some point they try to rectify that shit by putting everyone else down. Shit happens. People are cunts. Be nice or shut the fuck up.
THE END
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i think it just happened that skinny students were the ones most likely to admit that they had been bullied. i mean, giving 2 thousand high school kids a survey isn’t really concrete evidence…they could have lied. They gave my school a bullying survey a few months ago and everyone i know totally lied on it. i’m not saying that this may not be true, but i think that everyone reading should take into consideration that teenagers lie a lot on these kinds of surveys.