How do you get a crazy ex-boyfriend to just leave you alone. I feel like a restraining order is taking it too far. I just don’t know how to properly tell someone to go away for good. It has been over 5 years since we dated. It is beyond crazy at this point.
Well, in my experience a restraining order can’t be issued without an injunction to start off with. It’s a long and ugly process involving civil law, lots of costly paperwork, and attorneys, so you’re kind and wise to steer clear of it if he’s not a threat to your well-being.
Mental well-being is important though, too, and that’s what we’re talking about here. I don’t know if he’s just in your business or popping up everywhere, or just trying to be your friend when you don’t want him to, there are a few measures you have to take.
1. No more Miss Nice Ex. Tell him to go away and stand firm. Take control. He might not be in his right mind, but he should respect your wishes. If it’s been five years, surely he knows you find him annoying, but it’s your responsibility to follow through when he tries to contact you. If he calls or texts or shows up where you are, ignore him, or at most tell him it’s important to you for him to leave you alone. I’ve been shirked by an ex in public, and I never tried again. It’s humiliating. If you’ve got another person in your life, don’t be afraid to say “I’ve moved on.” It’s not impolite, and it might be imperative to the health of your current relationship.
2. Get right in your head about it. The second step, if you’ve already told him how you feel and that you need him to go away is to begin to adjust your own mental state to be apathetic about him. Not hate, not resentment, just free him from your senses. Lose his number, ignore his texts and be empowered. Five years is just unreal. He needs to move on, and you need to regain control.
3. But what if he doesn’t listen? If it’s been five years and he’s still not hearing you, even when you take a firm and proactive approach to losing him for good, something is wrong. If he’s showing up at your house unannounced, being creepy, call the cops. Sounds drastic, but if there’s the slightest inkling that your safety is compromised, don’t hesitate to bring in the authorities. You know… if he’s for-real nuts.
But if it’s just about empowerment, getting the guts to tell him to move on, you might not have to be brutal, just honest. Say, “I don’t think you and I are able to be friends in a way that is healthy.” It’s your prerogative, girl. It’s your life.
Lovelies, this might be a common issue. Have you ever had a situation where you had trouble kicking an ex to the curb? Do you find it easy or difficult to stay friends with an ex?
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Keep him around as a side piece, just fit him for a muzzle.
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Restraining order. If he’s not letting up after 5 years, he’s not going to let up ever. You guys are ex for a reason. Stop returning his calls. Tell him to leave you alone. If he keeps it up, go to the courthouse and file the sonofabitch (with proper documentation). It sucks, it’s emotional, but it’s totally doable and effective. At least for a year.
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Ignoring my ex worked for me, but seems like you’ll have to do more than that if he’s still bothering you after 5 years… he is crazy indeed.
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - @SasGal@xanga -
Pff… you two would be the first to chime in on this.
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By a baseball bat and get a restraining order.
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“or just trying to be your friend when you don’t want him to”
Yeah… what I find most effective is when you roll up a magazine or newspaper real tight…
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Says the dude who will not let his ex go? Who claims he’s godly and only he can ever love her in that all important whole person way? Says the guy who’s constantly harrassing one of his exes after she’s told you to move on with your pathetic life? Please. Let us see your advice on how to get rid of someone JUST LIKE YOU. I’d like to see what would work outside of a restraining order and an ass kicking, Josh.
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@SasGal@xanga - You know the name of the crazy?
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@SasGal@xanga - Do you only know of him online? If not then…. gah. Profile looked disturbing enough, wouldn’t want to interact with that offline.
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@SasGal@xanga - What kind of harassment?
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@ashleynicole - I only know of him because of what my friend, his victim has shared with me. As you can see from his responses, dude has issues. Multiple. One of those don’t walk, RUN situations.
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - You remind me of my ex. I don’t even need to argue because you prove my point a little more with each response. By all means, continue and dig yourself a nice, deep, hole.
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@SasGal@xanga - Oh crap, so there’s a pre-existing knowledge of him outside of the xanga network? I clearly don’t know him or you (and the friend), but just based on the interaction and on the… vibe of the stuff on his page, I am sorry. And a side-note, I don’t think he quite grasps the concept of irony. Unless I completely missed something up there. And it’s also not a reinforcement procedure in terms of kicking someone’s ass in the literal sense in order to stop the crazies; that would be a positive punisher, as it would be adding/giving something to the recipient that would work to lessen the target behaviour (in this case being, well, a stalker to stick with what has been said). A reinforcer (positive or negative) would be used to increase the target behaviour, and I doubt the friend would want the weird ex behaviour to increase. Not important to what you have said, but it definitely bugged me lol.
But seriously, I agree with you in what you’ve said so far. All his profanity and anger isn’t helping his case either. And in this case, he probably would benefit from some behavioural conditioning.
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@ashleynicole - Yeah. I feel bad for my friend. He’s really gone off of the rocker. I worry about her because of how forceful he’s been in trying to “get her back” even though she’s said she doesn’t want anything to do with him. He’s the kind of guy who thinks that saying, “no” means keep going and she’ll change her mind eventually. It’s quite a disgusting attitude he has.
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Dude, nice try, but we’ve seen the things you’ve said to her, the threatening insinuations you’ve made, only to see you act like a victim and beg forgiveness moments later. And by the way, it doesn’t matter what she’s said to you in the past, that doesn’t obligate her to work things out with you. If you were half a man, and NOT the demon you claim we’re making you out to be, you’d man up and leave her alone. You’d respect HER desires to NOT TALK TO or WITH you, and you’d “LOVE” her by giving her what she wants.
If you love her, then love her. It’s a verb. It means doing something. Do what she’s asked you to do. Leave her alone.
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Do the things that you know gross him out. Like pick your nose in front of him or pick gum off the bottom of a table and stick it in your mouth.
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Don’t interact with him plain and simple. Tell him to fuck off. Stop being polite and nice. I don’t get it. If you don’t want to talk to him then don’t. It is a matter of you being crystal clear that you do not want him to be a part of your life. Let him know you don’t want to be friends, frenemies, or even Farmville neighbors and cut him off. Judging from the statements in this post, he hasn’t done anything to warrant a restraining order. If he were really crazy, then you wouldn’t hesitate to get a restraining order, and do whatever you could to have it enforced. HOWEVER, if he is crazy and doing creepy stuff, being threatening etc then this is not something you should handle on your own. Don’t hesitate to call the cops. Start recording his behavior so there is a record in case you do have to rely on the law, you have evidence to corroborate your story.
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
orchid / 184 posts
I have an ex who likes to do this, a year and a half after I left his ass for good. I find what works best is cursing him the hell out! Tell him you’re not a bitch to fuck with and that if he doesn’t leave you alone, you
will
be taking physical and legal action. Then actually
do it
.
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@RazielV@xanga - This is just how he is… he’s been reported to @theXangaTeam a few times, and directly to @john, I am told, but it doesn’t stop. He doesn’t stop. He just keeps up the harassing behavior. He’s going to cross the line one of these days, and he will not even realize it until he’s sitting inside 4 concrete walls. People who behave like him are seriously disturbed and need extreme mental help.
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@Erika_Steele@xanga - Very good points. It’s refreshing to know there are still sane people on earth.
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I had exactly this problem, only it was more like 8 years of having been broken up. He would contact me randomly, on facebook or myspace or whatever.
How I finally got rid of him, after having told him nicely for years that I had moved on and we would never get back together (he got married during that time, by the way)? I took off the kid gloves. The next time he contacted me on facebook, I wrote him a long message detailing EXACTLY why I didn’t want him in my life. I literally told him every bad thing about himself that I could think of, I told him why my husband was the only man I ever wanted, and then I blocked him.
Change your number, block his facebook, tell him you don’t want him around anymore, and for God’s sake, if he starts stalking you in person, get a restraining order. Carry a weapon and know how to use it.
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@WaitingToShrug@xanga - Another option is the “fight fire with fire” method where you try to out-creep your creepy stalkers. Show up at their doorstep with a package, a shirt with your stalker’s pictures printed all over it, and say, “Hi, love, I made this shrine using the hairs I plucked off your laundry at night while you and your family were sleeping. Do you love me yet? Please? How about now? Now? Now?” And to top it off, give your creeper this look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czV9rnx-0Gk
I haven’t tried it yet but I’m fairly confident it’ll drive off all but the most psychotic of creepsters away.
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…I think I know who wrote this.
If it is who I think it is, GET A RESTRAINING ORDER!!!!
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Dude, relax. Arguing with these people further helps nobody. You’ll be ok. Just delete xanga, hit the gym, lawyer up. If you really believe you’ve been maligned by this woman, the best thing you can do is just forget her.
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@RazielV@xanga - Actually, I know that she talked to him. A friend manipulated her into it one last time. She told him that it upset her and stressed her out to talk to him and she asked that he promise to leave her alone. By the end of the conversation he went all psycho again, and decided he didn’t want to keep that promise after all. Yes, she knows that he will keep continuing if she keeps forgetting that he’s hopeless and pathetic, but I have done all I can. I know ENOUGH of both sides of the story.
The sad thing here is, even if she opens contact to tell him to leave her alone, he sees it at as opportunity to keep talking to her, so he continues his path of destruction and obsession thinking “if only I say the right thing just one time, everything will be forgiven and I’ll get her back.” He has no respect for himself, so he continues to try to force some sort of a relationship on her. God… isn’t that sexy?
Just because someone said you were great and their soulmate once, does not entitle you to them for the rest of your life. Move on. Grow up. Grow some balls and get your OWN life.
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Oh god, the eyes…
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@SasGal@xanga -
“it upset her and stressed her out to talk to him”
Here’s a really deep and complex question for you, genius…
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
(sorry, I don’t mean to sound insulting, it’s just that nobody seems to get this question right)
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@ashleynicole - Hooray, more female reasoning. I’m sorry, I’m kind of a dick when it comes to proving points that would otherwise leave me unjustly discredited if I didn’t.
Anyway, I said:
“it upset her and stressed her out to talk to him”
“WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
Your response:
“she felt uncomfortable talking to you and thus it made her feel upset and stressed”
So what you’re saying is it upset her and stressed her out to talk to me because she felt uncomfortable talking to me…?
Um…
I know you said “for whatever reason”, but determining that reason was the whole point of my question.
Why do you think she would feel uncomfortable talking to me?
(and no, I’m not nor was I ever a dick to her… I can assure you this is a newly acquired trait, so if you would try to refrain from using my current tone as some sort of evidence of what led to this situation, that would be rulllll nice)
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It took my ex four years to finally leave me alone. He would call me every month for four years telling me he loves me and then the next day calling me and calling me all sorts of names. I told him to leave me alone, my boyfriend (now husband) told him to leave me alone. Nothing worked. I moved and changed my phone number. That worked. Although I did not move because of him, I did change my phone number because of him. I think if you are being reasonable and mature and its not working, its best to just cut off any chance of contact possible and not give him any means to contact you. After awhile this should die out.
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Hoorah, a sexist comment! If my comment had come from a man, would that have changed your interpretation? If so, I can see why people here are clearly showing an issue with the way you are currently behaving. I guess we can really only hope that you are wildly misrepresenting your own personality for the sake of anyone who happens to come into prolonged contact with you. Especially the women.
I stated that she feels uncomfortable and probably not too happy with the idea of talking to you or communicating with you in absolutely any way. So instead of her simply putting on a happy face whilst talking to you, she feels upset and stressed. To me it appears that you are simply using roundabout arguments and trying to “pseudopsych” your way out of a lot of this. Hopefully you are not a psych minor or major, as you are doing the field a disservice. Could I make more in-depth assumptions about her reasons for feeling upset and stressed while speaking to you? Yes, but considering I do not know her personally nor have any connection to her in any way, my more in-depth suggestions would potentially not at all apply. Yet the statement that the mere idea of speaking to you causes psychological and likely physiological distress which then led to an overall upset and stressed-out reaction/behaviour from her likely does hold some merit, as it’s a fairly general statement that can easily apply to a number of people without going into specifics about relationships of the specific individuals. But let’s take a stab at why she may have become upset and stressed out by simply talking to you:
1) Over the course of X months that you dated, eventually a stress response was conditioned as a consequence of some of your specific interactions (verbal or not) together. The response may have been strong enough to create a lasting conditioning procedure that has now generalized to basically anything that has to do with your presence or with you being mentioned. And if she is in fact avoiding contact with you as much as possible, then being coerced into communicating with you would definitely increase anxiety and stress, much like with a flooding procedure when trying to extinguish a phobia. Avoidance of the phobia (and who knows, perhaps you’ve become a partial phobia for her) will also allow that phobia to remain strong instead of becoming extinct.
2) Perhaps while you were together, or even after you two broke up, an event occurred which caused acute stress as a result of something that you did/said or just simply because it became associated with yourself. Acute stress, as demonstrated in the last few years of scientific study, is shown to actually cause changes in your brain chemistry and could easily change how she reacts in certain situations or even in general. We briefly discussed this in one of my psych courses today, with my prof mentioning how such a situation could occur when someone experiences a notable stressful experiences and it creates new pathways or something along those lines; the only way to revert back to what was once there is to confront the situation again whilst remaining calm. Which can be very difficult for people.
As I don’t know her, I really cannot think of too many others because I have no idea where to draw specifics from. I could always ask some of my psychology professors about it; I bet my behavioural psychology prof would actually have a lot to say about this actually! But I assume it would be strange to ask a former professor about a problem being posed by a stranger on the internet.
If the whole point of your question was to determine why, specifically, she was reacting that way, and you are going around acting like an asshat douchebag because none of us are able to state why she acted that way, then you clearly need to get your priorities set straight. Only she can answer that; not even her closest friends can.
If you’d like for us (or myself alone) to stop using your current tone (although I’m actually not simply relying on what has been posted here, but on the creeptasticness that are your blog entries) as an indication of your personality, then perhaps stop using said tone. It’s quite simple actually to act civil and to refrain from using profanity, acting (undeservedly) superior to others, and utilizing a moderately creepy tone in your writing even if you are angry or upset. It’s a comment box. It allows you the time to formulate your reply. Perhaps you should utilize that time wisely.
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@ashleynicole - Your in-depth assumptions are correct. I have to say I’m very impressed and I really appreciate the time and effort you put into responding in such a thoughtful way.
I’m speechless. I mean, I seriously doubt it was a lucky guess, and you seem to have a really good understanding of this type of situation (that is, the conditioning procedure you described). Is it something you see commonly?
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@ashleynicole - Your comment is 7 levels of win.
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@RazielV@xanga - Lol, thanks
@T3hZ10n@xanga - I am a psych minor. This was all taught in the 200 level behavioural psychology class.
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@ashleynicole - I’m sticking with Freud on this guy. Mommy didn’t diddle him as a kid enough, so now the rest of womankind has to suffer.
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@RazielV@xanga - Can you not share your comments here? I know far more about this ridiculous saga than I care too already.
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@TheMushyPear@xanga - If I feel a comment I write is worth sharing, I will. Sorry. That’s not going to change.
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@RazielV@xanga - I’m going to level with you, here. It wasn’t worth sharing.
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@TheMushyPear@xanga - That’s your opinion. Re-read what I said. If -I-, as in, myself, say something worth sharing. I will. Not: If I write something someone else finds worth sharing.
<3
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@T3hZ10n@xanga - Wow you really are psycho.
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tell him to leave you alone in a public place. like at a mall, preferably near a security guard!
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@misslei11@xanga - I have no idea, I didn’t submit the post and I don’t know who did…
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@SasGal@xanga - Is that crazy guy you’re talking about the one this post is about? o.O
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@SasGal@xanga - You are a good friend.
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@misslei11@xanga - @SasGal@xanga - No it’s not. It seemed eerily similar though. I was like, NO WAI.
@ashleynicole - Really good explanation. (I’m the one who’s being harassed by psychohole) I just graduated with a bachelor’s in psych and am seriously impressed with what you said.
“It’s quite simple actually to act civil and
to refrain from using profanity, acting (undeservedly) superior to
others, and utilizing a moderately creepy tone in your writing even if
you are angry or upset. ” Amen sista. The words i was never able to formulate!!
Thank you for all that you said. You are a good person.
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@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - I love your face!
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@SasGal@xanga - *blushies* ty
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@DrummingMediocrity@xanga - you’re welcome! Although now I feel a bit weird with the person that was being discussed now chiming in lol. I was contemplating a psych major (or at least a double major in it), but I think I’ll stick to a minor. Doing psychology work for a living just seems like it’d be too intense! And as for all of what has been discussed here, hopefully things aren’t too hard or weird. I’ve been hating the fact that I’ve been single for 4 years, I should stop complaining!
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