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If you wanna do drugs, go ahead. But please don’t fucking do it when you have kids. 

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That show is overrated.

I’m not at all surprised.  It’s television.

Jenelle disgusts me. She is not a teen mom. She’s a teen who had a baby and shoved the baby off on her mother because she couldn’t handle it. She has no job. And while she did graduate high school, she flunked out of her college classes because of her loser boyfriend whose been in and out of jail. I am appalled at her actions and decisions and somewhat appalled that Mtv even chooses to show her on the show. They need to kick her off.

Lol that’s why Jenelle is on there.  She’s a train wreck and we as a society love to watch it.

“Strung out on weed?” Are you kidding me.   -____-

It’s not a hard drug, it’s a damn plant. You might be a little bit cranky if you’re used to smoking often and you stop for a while, but it’s not like you’re a junkie with withdrawal sickness after kicking heroin…

I went 24 hours last week without smoking. You know what my day was like? Totally normal. Strung out? I love how sometimes this topic is handled with a dramatic flair. Yes, she’s obviously doing a shitty job at parenting, but no need to characterize weed as some sortt of hard drug on which one can become “strung out.” Give me a break.

I don’t care about her smoking weed.
what i find to be the worst thing is how she is forever abandoning her child to go and hang around with her druggie fuck-buddies. the saddest thing being that even if she went away for a couple of days at a time, her son was still waiting for her when she got home– nose pressed against the window, smiling away, because he is so happy to see his mother.. and she has ignored him on occasion as she has walked in through the door.
she is the worst on this show.

..also, she looks like Kristen Stewart, so it doesn’t surprise me that she takes drugs.

 @catchandrelease_x@xanga - I totally agree with you. It makes me sick that her behavior is reinforced with a paycheck. Write the checks out directly to her mother, where at least the money might help feed the child. 

@blackspiders@xanga - I have to disagree with you there. Although I have no argument that heroin withdrawals are hell compared to marijuana withdrawals, marijuana addiction and withdrawals are very much real, both physically and psychologically.

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - Fun fact: experts judge caffeine withdrawal to be more severe than cannabis withdrawal. Oh, and cigarettes still kill people… while making the government money.

Lmfao okay then. She’s nothing but a joke, and she’s one of the main reasons that I’m completely sick of that show.

I honestly can’t stand her being on there. The other girls are so dedicated to their kids and she’s just ridiculous. The way she screams, sdfgnlsdfg I just want to throw my TV out the window. Her mom does so much for her and she treats her like shit.

@blackspiders@xanga - This was my thought as well.  This episode must have been Teen Mom’s equivalent of Jessie doing drugs on Saved by the Bell. 

All of these moms have horrible parenting skills.  That is why they are on the show.  They’d never cast responsible teen moms that despite their being a teen mom.  I don’t watch the show.  There are only so many ways to wreck a train before it becomes mundane.

@blackspiders@xanga - Seriously. They’re terrible moms but I don’t think “strung out on weed” is the right terminology. Sure, moms shouldn’t smoke weed and especially not be high around their kids but “strung out” is something that should be used for more aggressive drugs. 

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - This is actually not true. It’s been researched many times (I’m too lazy to find the source, sorry) that any addiction to cannabis is actually addiction to tobacco and nicotine that it is rolled with. When subjects were given THC drops or inhaled vaporized marijuana a few times then the “withdrawal” effects observed, there were none and there was no evidence of addiction. This study was repeated several times by the US dept. of health and human services, we studied it in an effects illicit drugs course (I’m a public health major).

Dear god, please do some fact checking before you make snap judgements. Dont look now your brainwashed prohibitionist agenda is showing. 

yeah i agree with everyone i think jenelle is a terrible terrible mom, she shouldn’t  be allowed near that kid. and one other thing. The author of this blog is so beautiful , you are def. re-defining the word beautiful.!

@Jinnex@xanga - I’m actually very interested in reading this, as I still strongly stand by my original comment. I’m a psychology student with an emphasis in neuroscience (I am a research assistant in a drug / hormone / stress lab, and hoping to work in addictions research!), and nearly everything I have read agrees that cannabis withdrawal is real. “Cannabis withdrawal” is actually being added to the DSM V as a psychological disorder. 

I guess the reason I am so interested in seeing that study is because I see several flaws in the controls you described. For example… who were the subjects? It is HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY (I would even argue impossible if I did more research) for an individual to experience cannabis withdrawal after only ingesting it a few times.

Although this is not solidified scientific literature, I am currently experiencing marijuana withdrawals for the first time (I’ve been smoking multiple times daily for years), as currently being documented in my blog entries on here. I usually only smoke out of glass and get sick when I ingest tobacco. 
Just a few quick sources, though many more are out there
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=430#

http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/0021-843X.112.3.393

http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/1064-1297.8.4.483

@Erika_Steele@xanga - ”I’M SO EXCITED AND I JUST CAN’T HIDE IT!!!” Lol, sorry, I just have that episode stuck in my head now.

lolol “strung out on weed”, shut uuppppp. i feel a lot of things after a blunt, but strung out isn’t one of them. my whole family smokes and i’m a college student with a 3.8 GPA who graduated high school with high honors. jenelle has a lotttt of issues, but her marijuana use is one of the minor ones…if you consider it an issue at all.

How can anyone be “strung out” on weed? Unless their brains freak out in some atypical way. I mean, I take “strung out” as physically fucked up. Like heroin highs. Or cocaine withdrawals right before doing another line. The connotation between being high on weed and being strung out on PCP seems to be different enough that using “strung out” seems a little…odd.

what a waste!

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out at the use of “strung out on weed”. That is the exact phrase her mom used on the episode and the author put it in quotes. Geesh, calm down people. Anyway, I feel terrible for Jace. He was born into an unhappy home and a careless mom. Poor kid. I could say so many negative things about Janelle but I won’t even waste my time. Everyone knows what a wreck she is.

the only thing that is even remotely good about these shows, is that HOPEFULLY these children of theirs (the ridiculous over dramatic unfit parents, not the few good ones on the show) will look back and see how idiotic their parents were and learn how not to be like them, to be a hundred times better. specially in this case.

You don’t go through withdrawal from weed, and especially not after a fucking day. I’ll agree that she’s not a good mom at all, but weed has nothing to do with her behavior. You’re idiots for thinking otherwise.

Strung out on weed isn’t even a real thing!

@zomgshxxmichael@xanga - i posted three scientific articles in my previous comment (and could find a million more) that prove i’m not an idiot for thinking that way. although, you are correct, it is pretty improbable that she was going through withdrawals if it hadn’t even been a day. 

as far as the bigger picture is concerned, though, she is a shitty mom, and it has little to do with her smoking pot.  

I don’t know why so many people are in a tizzy over the “strung out on weed” phrase. I know people who are actually psychologically addicted to weed and who have had their lives fall apart from it. Weed doesn’t “save lives”, it helps certain people *cope* with certain medical issues. Don’t jump on the “weed cures cancer” train please. Yes, I’ve actually heard people say that and be serious about it. Sure, the person who is using weed determines how it affects them. Then again, not everyone who drinks alcohol becomes an alcoholic or drives drunk. Even people who smoke cigarettes can actually not get lung cancer, depending on the genes. Am I saying weed is as bad as these drugs? No. But some people drink in moderation, are intelligent enough to not get behind the wheel intoxicated, and never actually end up with any medical issues due to alcohol use. It’s all about the person in question and the circumstances of which the drug is being used. As in, weed can also be harmful, if not done in moderation. It’s not the best thing for you, I don’t understand the logic coming from some weed users. It’s still a drug people. Is it as bad as others? No. Doesn’t make it completely 100% good for you to use either. You’re still inhaling shit into your lungs and it still gives you a high. For anyone who wants to argue that it has no long term affects on your brain what-so-ever, I recommend you meet my mother’s ex-husband.

I don’t smoke weed myself, not that I never have, it’s just not my thing really. I do drink every now and then, but if someone were to tell me that alcohol is terrible for me, I can reply simply with, “Sure, alcohol is bad, but I drink in moderation”. I seriously have never seen anyone fizzle over defending a drug or their drug use as much as some people do over weed. I mean, it’s one thing to just say something simple, it’s another to resort to name calling and freak out about it. That, to me, sounds like an addict reaction. I’m not calling anyone an addict, but the similarity between the reactions of calling someone an alcoholic, when they are one, compared to just stating that weed has some negative affect on some people, is a bit odd to me. If the excuse is, “I feel strongly about it”, then I say that you can still display that attitude in an intellectual and non-vulgar manner. If someone acts out more than usual without weed or in this case:

“She ends up storming out of the house to go smoke because now she’s stressed”

Then I actually can kind of see her being distressed from the lack of a drug, or as they put it, “strung out”. You know where the above sounds familiar? When I used to smoke cigarettes and justified breaking down and having one while trying to quit because I was “too stressed” to deal with anything at the moment. Sure, she could just be a train wreck, but that excuse doesn’t exactly fit for the handful of other people I know personally who have given this exact excuse to smoke weed again. Sounds like it can be problem for some people to me.

You cant go through withdrawls on weed, since it is not physically addicting.

Coming from someone who has smoked weed for years and quit voluntarily completely on my own, I think the whole “strung out on weed” phrase is bullsh*t.  Can you be addicted to the high that weed gives you?  Sure.  Why else do people continue to smoke?  But that, like breastfeeding and many other topics are dead horses. 

In any event, her priorities have nothing to do with weed, and everything to do with the little boy masquerading as a man that she calls her boyfriend.  She doesn’t know how to be single.  She does need a psychologist and some professional mental help.  She also needs a good, grown, ass whooping and some serious jail time.  Honestly, I, like you, only watch it every so often, and every time I catch that show, she boils my blood.  How are you going to ignore your son because your “boyfriend” won’t answer the damn phone?  Seriously?  Then she wants to blame the weed?  Marijuana has nothing to do with the fact that she has an unhealthy fear of being by herself. 

Do people not realize she is quoting the mother and its not OP’s opinion?? Give her a break!

Anyhow, I can’t watch shows like that. It breaks my heart to see that. My older brother’s girlfriend may be considered a “teen mom” but they both do the damn best they can as young parents and I’m proud of them. Watching people like this screw up their children’s lives is just depressing.

I’ve seen a few episodes of this show and think the mother is just as insane. Bipolar, maybe. One minute she’s yelling the next she’s calm and cool. Janelle wanted to take her kid to see fireworks on the last episode I saw, and the mother said no, so it’s not like she doesnt want to spend time with her kid.

idk, I’ve only seen a few episodes and stay away from the show in all.

this is the stupidest shit i’ve ever heard. i didn’t even bother reading the article, just the title…..
but wow. where is cps when you need them?

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - You’ve posted articles and said you believe what you believe from what you read… But have you done any other tests your self other then you just smoking? If not… then you are just going by what you are told.

You believe the scientists you like and I will believe the scientist I like.

strung out on weed lol wtf????

@MommyMarty22@xanga - In the research I have personally participated in conducting, no, marijuana addiction and withdrawal was involved. However, I have a solid background (compared to the general population) on drugs and addiction because I work with the brain and similar substances, which I would hope gives me a little bit of credibility in the field. 

I was just backing up the points I originally made. Which is what anyone debating a point should do. Also, which no one who has debated the contrary has provided… why did you call the one person out who HAD support for their opinion? lol

Thank God I don’t smoke weed at all. I rather be a healthy and a loving mother.

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - Actually, I wasn’t debating and wasn’t “calling you out”.

I was saying, You believe what you believe and I will believe in what I chose.

I wasn’t debating a thing because I never said it wasn’t entirely none addictive. I didn’t “call out” anyone else because I thought it would be interesting actually having a conversation with some one who wasn’t cursing.  Which is why I none condescendingly asked a question, unlike your condescending “lol”.

Thanks for the wonderful conversation.

I agree that Jenelle is a terrible mother. And no, marijuana isn’t the worst drug in the world, but it’s still ILLEGAL. And any mother who would jeopardize her parenting rights for something that is ILLEGAL is an irresponsible woman that does not deserve her child. Jace is an adorable little baby who deserves so much better, and it saddens me to see his selfish mother ruin his life like this. We can only hope that the baby will have a brighter future than his mother, but it’s unlikely.

i haven’t watched any of these shows (16 and pregnant and Teen Mom) past their first season and i watched them because i was 19 when i was pregnant and wanted to see what these “moms” were doing and i remember watching some of the episodes and thinking omg i don’t want to be like that, i want to be a great mom for my kid, so that was the hype of why i watched it but i got over it real quick.

as for Jenelle Evans, she is (so far) a bad mom making bad choices not just for her kid but for herself, hopefully she’ll grow up, clean up her act, and become the responsible and loving parent that her child deserves, but i don’t see that happening any time soon… and i’m pretty sure she’s lost custody to her kid, or am i mistaken?

@MommyMarty22@xanga - as I stated before, I have experienced withdrawal effects of  marijuana, so I was not JUST going off of what I was told. Granted, it’s not the type of withdrawal one would experience with a hard drug, but it is withdrawal nonetheless. Why have I not conducted a controlled experiment? Because the experiments in the articles I gave HAVE been replicated, yielding the same results. It would be a waste of the government’s money to continue. 

I suppose I was being condescending because I just didn’t see the point of your comment. Of COURSE we can choose who and what to believe. But I prefer to believe things that have empirical evidence to support it. 

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - Like I said, I’m not debating anything so I didn’t see the point in posting evidence.  Which Is why I asked a question… I figured you can educate me.

One more reason I didn’t site anything is because I’m going off memory, not something I’m looking up as of the moment.

I personally do not think Marijuana is anymore addictive(as I said before I didn’t say it wasn’t addictive at all.) then a cup of coffee, exercise, or even sex (all naturally releases serotonin, except for Marijuana) and there is no proof, to my knowledge that it releases any dopamine….

Of course people can become dependent on it, people can become dependent on anything
(That’s why I say everything in moderation Not that I do anything illegal O.O)

I think weed is the last thing I’m worried about Jenelle with. I would also like to see someone “strung out” on weed as well. Write about something interesting & relevant. I see I’m not the only person responding with a message similar to mine.

Yeah yeah she’s dumber than a box of rocks and in no way should she be considered a mother. But I agree with some other people that weed shouldn’t be blamed at alllll. I’ve been an avid smoker for a decade and I go weeks, sometimes a month, without smoking sometimes and feel totally normal the entire time. I have never felt withdrawal from marijuana. I like to smoke on occasion and I also like to smoke every day, but it doesn’t mean I go bonkers if I decide to skip the pot one day. -_- She’s just using that as an excuse when it plays no real part, she’s just a complete moron, that’s all.

@MommyMarty22@xanga - I definitely agree with you that ANYTHING can become addicting. We can see that with gambling addicts, sex addicts, etc. 

Serotonin: I can’t really confirm or deny (though I’m pretty sure you’re right) about marijuana not acting on the serotonin system. However, marijuana does affect other neurotransmitters that create pleasurable experiences for some people that the other behaviors you mentioned do not. 
As far as dopamine release is concerned, it is affected by all of the behaviors you noted. Unlike some other drugs, marijuana does not DIRECTLY stimulate the release of that chemical. However, dopamine is released when you engage in something pleasurable.. which can be the act of toking up, gambling, working out, etc. 
as we all know (or at least have heard), marijuana directly stimulates appetite, sleep, certain moods, etc. when the body is used to receiving that drug several times a day for years and is then taken away, your body has to adjust, and your appetite, sleep and moods are affected (withdrawal). 

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - I just re-read my first reply to you… It does come off pretty snarky… lol That was not what I intended. (Not get enough sleep on my part.) Sorry.

@MommyMarty22@xanga - I was out drinking before I replied to you, lol, so I hope there are no hard feelings (even if it is just the internet). 

@tears_foraffairs@xanga - none at all lol

Weird.. I use to be quite the pot smoker…I was always stoned, but because I wanted to be. Not because my mental state or physical state was screaming at me to get stoned. I just did it because it was fun, relaxing & I had it on me or always knew people who did. I stopped smoking so much because I decided the “party was over” & it was time for me to grow up. Occasionally, I hit the bong or whatever but nowhere near as much as I use to.I now go months without it & have no issues. In fact as I write this I believe the last time I smoked a puff or two was well over 8 or 9 months ago. I didn’t suffer from any kind of withdrawal symptoms, cranky moody or otherwise. I just stopped smoking & that was that. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones? I don’t know much about “withdrawal from cannabis” only that I & others I know have successfully quit smoking so much or all together & have had no issues. As for Janelle…wait let me re-phrase ..as for that ENTIRE show Teen Mom 1 & 2 & whatever comes later..it’s all bullshit. It’s really done so that America can get their “reality fix” & see a bunch of dysfunctional young parents & their parents & go “Thank god that isn’t me!” It’s as if the producers of Teen Mom went “Hmm..lets round up some of the most shitty young mothers/fathers we can & make a show about it! While at the same time pretending the show is actually geared to ‘opening the eyes’ to people of the trials & tribulations young parents go through!” Seriously, Janelle Evans isn’t a poster child for motherhood but neither was Amber or half the other ones. The only one who could be seen as close to being an actual young mother going through hell is Caitlin & her young boyfriend. They chose to give their baby girl up for adoption. The hell these other mothers go through is usually by their own hand – i.e drugs, drinking & a plethora of shitty men they date, if they & their baby daddy don’t work out.  To me, Janelle is just another shit mother who needs to get her act together, weed or no weed. This show caters to people who enjoy drama & because there’s plenty of young parents who are either extraordinary parents OR go through similar drama, such as parents not supporting them or drug issues BUT are getting help – this show really doesn’t do them justice. Not all young parents are like what this show paints them to be. It just means higher ratings if they gather young parents like Janelle. 

i swear this show annoys me.. i too watched it to see what it was all about and sometimes there’s nothing else to watch on tv anymore.. she is selfish and that’s good her mom has custody over her son that poor child is growing up without his biological father already and she’s not making any efforts to be around him and when her mom gives her the chance to do so she fucks it up and clearly her priorities are screwed up when she puts that loser low life kieffer ahead of her son.. i’m not saying her mom is a saint neither ‘cuz i’m pretty sure she has her issues too by the way she treats her daughter but it’s no fair to the lil boy! she keeps saying she’s going to get her life together and yet she still hasn’t after each season she’s still in the same place.. NOWHERE.. that poor lil boy..

chelsea needs to let that dumbass baby daddy go it’s obvious she’s never going to have a normal family for her child.. she too needs a life check also.. she says that she’s doing it for her daughter but in reality she’s really doing it for herself..

kailyn says she’s not selfish but yet she’s not willing to work things out with the baby daddy when he wanted to and the fact that she went behind their backs to be with another guy without working things out was shady so she shouldn’t be bitching if she can’t see her child on holidays and birthdays clearly she can move out and try to make things work with the baby daddy..

leah.. sure they made it.. they got back together and got married but now they’re separated.. they both are in two different relationships.. that is the most ridiculous shit ever.. apparently working things out for the sake of their children is by getting divorced and getting into other relationships and letting them move in with the children is a solution to all their problems what happens when they break up..

clearly these teen moms aren’t grown as they claim to be.. they have selfish tendencies and try to make it look like they’re all for their kids.. yeah sure if you say so..

What pisses me off is the pure fact that these shows are recorded for everyone to see how shit these so called ‘parents’ are and the Social do nothing about it. Let alone the the fact this kid is doing drugs on television and the cops do nothing either. What more proof do you need? Last time I heard drugs are illegal.

Janelle’s mom is mentally abusive, and has been for her whole life. She graduated from high school with a good gpa and is capable of performing well in college but she’s lost because she’s trapped and controlled by her mother.

Positive reinforcement is what best changes behavior. Punishment and negative reinforcement are significantly less effective.
Her mom has a point about her boyfriend, but Janelle has no sense of self-worth. She doesn’t think highly of herself at all. She’s staying with her boyfriend because he’s the only one who compliments her. She can’t recognize that he’;s using her and is a piece of shit who is bringing her down.

It’s really hard to be an individual raised in an abusive household. During what point was she supposed to magically blossom into a well-rounded individual without fucked up behavioral patterns? She got pregnant while still a minor and her and her child were abandoned by the fathers boyfriend, who I think she dated for liek three years before that. She’s lost.

Should she stop smoking pot and using other drugs and get her shit together? Yes. Is it unreasonable for people to expect more out of her? Yes. She can’t move out of her shit hole town because her mother has custody of her child. And she can’t just stay at home and do schoolwork and avoid all of her shitty friends and boyfriend because her mother is so goddamned suffocating that her household is an unhealthy environment for her to be in. She has no way of escaping her environment except in a way that would take several years of dealing with a lot of exhausting and terrible shit. I.e., complete probation and ASAP, quit using drugs and learn how to control her emotions in a way she was never taught in her whole life, put her social life almost completely on hold, get a job and hold it, go to school and be successful. Two years of that and she can get maybe custody of her child, move to another city, transfer to another school, and get a job there (because she would have a work history). If she can do that then she can start to reflect on her life and her choices in a healthy and positive way. That is a LOT to do and it is a LOT to ask of someone who never gets any support for doing anything right and has millions of people judging every mistake she makes, let alone her overbearing cunt of a mother.

I like the show because I’m pregnant, I’m 21, and watching them makes me feel better about being (what I feel to be) so young and about to have a child. I find it pretty amusing, and also somewhat able to relate to.
I really don’t care for Jenelle; at first I felt kinda bad for her because her mother is a super control freak and that would be enough to drive me mad. But she brought a lot of it upon herself. Between the drugs and her boyfriend and staying out all night, I think she is a pretty terrible mother. I’d been smoking for about two years, but as soon as I found out I was pregnant I stopped, and I would never smoke around my child, while taking care of my child, in the same house as my child, or if I knew I’d have to take care of them later. She says she loves her son, everyone who has kids and still does drugs (that I know) says that, but if you really cared about your child, you’d put their well-being over your drug habit.

Unfortunately as it is for me to admit, Jenelle is from my home state, North Carolina and Oak Island (where most of her scenes are filmed and where her mother lives) is a beach that me and my fiance frequent over the summer. I’ve heard numerous people report that Jenelle is now dating someone who lives in Lumberton, which is within shouting distance of my hometown of Fayetteville and she is constantly frequenting Fayetteville’s one and only decent night club, Barcelona, and from time to time, she is seen at our one and only mall. She gives people from my area a BAD name. I’ve honestly never heard of anyone being “strung out on weed” or going to rehab for weed. She needs to get real, consider some anger management classes, and take care of her child above all boyfriends and drugs.