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I fit into this. I am planning on graduating college, love my laptop, think religion for the most part is BS and I feel there is more to life than having babies and getting married. However, I am not so optimistic that job searching will get better. I think we have experienced a shift in the market that I fear is here to stay, at least for a good duration of our time. I mean, it’s already been over 10 years since 911 that started all this…so I don’t thinks are magically going to get better, but maybe that’s just me.

i find this pretty interesting. 

i fit into this as well. 

This seems wayyy too broad to “define” a person or a group of people.

Yes, all of it applies to me and most of it applies to most people my age – but why does it have a title? (I’m atheist, not married… but I am engaged, have a bachelor’s degree, love technology – so addicted to my iphone & don’t participate in the “green” movement as much as I should because it’s expensive and seems trivial, and I have a tattoo too) The only thing I don’t think applies to me is that finding a job is a full-time job – I have a job and it wasn’t that hard to find it.

Time changes and those my age grew up with technology and use it frequently, most of us are too young to have experience with dating a man who would be considered “marriage material.”

But religion and choice of when to get married and who to marry are personal choices that could happen at any age. My mom didn’t get married until her 30′s… so what?

I don’t understand the point of this title given to people my age or the post.

spoiled rotten drones to technology

@P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga -  That’s an incredibly generalized statement. Growing up in a generation doesn’t mean you get what you need, or what the majority has Growing up in this generation also means that we’re the first generation that will have less opportunities than the generation that has raised us. I would be happy if the next generation creates new technology that is widely accessible to all levels of social class. Access to technology doesn’t make us “spoiled” it means technology is advancing rapidly and we’re all benefiting. 

@winterEnds@xanga - I think you mean, we’re the first generation that has MORE opportunities than the generation that raised us. Technology is widely accessable to all levels of social class. The computers at librarys are free, many universities have free wifi through out the entire campus. We are spoiled because of technology. When was the last time you did a research paper without a majority of your sources being from the internet?

@theflowerstem@xanga -  According to NPR, this generation is the first to be poorer than the generation that raised it since the Great Depression. 

Technology is widely accessible, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we are spoiled by it. It means we have more access to things we never have before. similarly, Food is now mass produced the most efficiently than it ever has been. People assume obesity is the cause of excess money, but in actuality the cheapest foods are also the most unhealthy. People assume america doesn’t have people who starve because we have fast food chains that sell high calorie meals at low prices, but correlation does not mean causation. Excess does not mean affluence. 

@theflowerstem@xanga - Furthermore, we have less opportunities in that we are more educated, but the level of education that is more commonly attained (BA) is now comparable to a highschool Diploma. We also have less opportunities because we have less jobs offered, perhaps partly due to the rise of technology that is more efficient, also globalization (out sourcing) and less small businesses with the unspoken monopoly of certain higher power companies. 

Yep and now there’s Generation Z.

@winterEnds@xanga - A bachlor’s degree is not comparable to a high school diploma, an Associates Degree is comparable to a high school diploma, how many jobs do you know of that ask for an AA? It goes from High School Diploma to Bachlor’s Degree; there isn’t a visible middle step anymore. Second of all I believe we are spoiled by technology. How many people will know how to use a map if their GPS failed? Having access to more things does make you more spoiled because most people will give up and/or forget the old way of doing things because they don’t think they need it anymore. There are less minimum wage job opportunities, but there are plenty of jobs in technology and other fields that work the left side of your brain, problem is too many Americans are not majoring in these fields and then graduate and complain about not being able to find work.

@winterEnds@xanga - I also wanted to add that this generation is poorer because of the Iraq war that started back in 2001 and just barely ended this month. The previous generation didn’t have a 10 year long war, they also wern’t attacked like we were, but still.

@theflowerstem@xanga - I suppose it depends more on what type of area you live in. I know for a fact that competition is higher in suburbs. To be able to access jobs further away you need things like bus routes that get shut down, train systems that aren’t built in suburbs to keep out homelessness. Some people end having fewer options. It’s all tied up in SES as well. It’s harder to find a job without connections as well. 
I’m sure there are a lot of people who use things like GPS systems instead of maps but I wouldn’t call it being spoiled. People that started using clocks to tell time instead of a sun dial weren’t spoiled, were they?

But you’re entitled to your opinion, of course. 

@winterEnds@xanga - Excuses, excuses, excuses. I should have added on to my previous comment that many Americans also make excuses. What suburb do you know of that has a bus route that no longer runs? Why would that happen in a suburb and not a ghetto or an old run down area that many people don’t go too? Why would a suburb have a train station instead of a metrolink station? Trains are for delivering packages, not people. Your whole comment is an example of why many people in this generation are out of work. You obviously don’t know exactly what you’re talking about.

@theflowerstem@xanga -  How incredibly presumptuous. 

I live in a suburb that is a few hours away from Atlanta, and I depend on public transit to get to my University which is in Atlanta. Due to cuts in funding, the bus route I that I would take to a train station was shut down. Does that mean I won’t finish school? No. Does it mean that people lose the ability to go to work every day that also depend on the bus line? Yes. The bus route I took every day was always full of people that used it for school and work, or to just get to grocery stores. It’s generally a well-off area, and yet we also get effected. Trains? Like the subway? like the L? like the MARTA? Oh I’m sorry, I was confused when I was taking it every day that the people taking it with me were supposed to be packages. I’m also educated. I also know what it’s like to have to work in places that don’t pay what they promise- often corporations that accept the likes of convicts because there are no other options. You know why they abuse people? You know why people that are treated poorly still work for them? Because they desperately need money. I wonder how little I know about what I’m talking about. 
Judge, judge, judge. That’s how people who have privileges treat people who don’t have the same opportunities. Because they are so myopic and self righteous, they still believe the american dream is a valid one. 

@winterEnds@xanga - What was it shut down for if a lot of people used it? Buses and what not depend on funding from property taxes (in my area) so unless the property taxes went down, which I HIGHLY doubt, there isn’t a logical reason for the bus to stop running. Your personal situtaion isn’t an explanation for anything.

@theflowerstem@xanga - Lucky you, your buses still run. Enjoy them. I  wish I lived with your personal situation, but turns out it’s not the be all end all. Aw nuts! 

@winterEnds@xanga - I was being too mean, I get like that when arguing with facts, sorry.

@theflowerstem@xanga - Don’t worry, it’s an intense topic ha. 

@winterEnds@xanga - it is meant to be general, so it can apply to some or most or none. I was speaking of spoiled in comparison to my grandma and mother’s generation, who lived in poverty.

I think topics like this are supposed to provoke discussion, especially when the people they are talking about are, in theory, us. None of the statistics are supposed to be specific to your situation, they are just averaged data..I’m not a fan of being generalized either, which is why I think the topic is so important. The comments you guys have wrote are showing that we’re so much more than statistics..which was kind of the point of me posting it

While I do fill most of those descriptions (I like my netbook, I have a Bachelors degree, I’m in a crappy job-hunt situation), …  I feel like I should have been in an older generation.

I hate being lumped in as a millenial. I was going to blog about this the other day (provoked by an article in a Forbes magazine). I consider myself  ”generation-Y”. I guess they overlap. *shakes fists at being lumped with other 80′s babies*