We’re not saying she shouldn’t be allowed to be derivative, we’re just saying you shouldn’t be allowed to call her an innovator.
Zzzing! The format for LadyGagaAfter is a picture of an icon from the past and a picture of Lady Gaga swagger-jacking them. Any Lady Gaga fans in the house might have a thing or two to say about the difference between paying homage to those who paved her glittery way and being a wholesale rip-off. Does this Tumblr take a two-dimensional approach to Lady Gaga’s wild ways?
As a huge fan of Gaga and her awareness of her influences I get what they’re trying to do here, but I also think it’s interesting to observe how much research Lady Gaga has done to honor the people who inspire her.
What do you think, Lovelies? Does the blog have a point? Or are they just giving her another stage on which to display her prowess as an icon?
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Some I don’t agree it’s copying and some is but still I don’t think it’s a big deal.
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Let it be noted, I’m not a huge Gaga fan. In fact, I don’t really know if I’d consider myself a fan of hers at all. No one in this entire world is original. It’s normal to take from different styles and be influenced from other people. A lot of people seem to love everything Gaga does. If she’s happy, and her fans are happy, I’m happy… *Shrugs*
daisy / 599 posts
Thanks for pointing this out. She’s not that original. Some of Gaga’s fan are morons though. I saw a Marilyn Manson video from like 2001 and a bunch of the Gaga fans were in there saying he ripped her off LOL.
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That picture of Annie Lennox is amazing. <3
Also, I love Gaga, but her fashion isn’t that pertinent to me overall…it’s the music. Her contribution to music will be long remembered long after all the crazy ass ways she wore her hair.
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I guess somehow I missed the part where lady gaga claimed all her looks were completely original? Why does everyone harass this woman for dressing like others? Don’t we all dress like others?
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we live in a time where everything we do is influenced by history and art and the culture around us, and lady gaga is the prime example of that, she soaks in everything around her. She references artists like leigh bowery not to copy but to exemplify what he was trying to do. Fetish and fashion have become more prominent and she’s an amalgamation of pop culture and art.
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@MissAshley - Sounds like a bunch of Justin Bieber fans were saying about Queen taking the same name as one of his songs, ‘somebody to love’ haha.
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@takifugu@xanga - Well said.
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I don’t Gaga, and I love this.
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@here4onething@xanga - Afreakingmen. LOL
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I don’t like copy cats. At all. I like artists to have some originality. Her music isn’t original, it’s just mass produced like all of pop music and her outfits are sluttier copies of the artists who inspire her. I never liked her and I agree with the statement.
sunflower / 317 posts
@takifugu@xanga - THIS is what I’ve been trying to get across to people. She’s never claimed to be original. She’s just brought a LOT of attention to underrated artists as well as brought a lot of fashion back. Fashion recycles itself over and over and over. Designers draw inspiration from the past. ANY artist draws inspiration from the past. Nothing is actually original anymore. Nothing. I wish more people would see that.
You don’t need to like her music but you have to give her some credit of the message that she works so hard to get out there.
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Next time you buy your northface sweater and ugg boots like everybody else, remember, you are an original. @.@
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@x_ROCKET@xanga - or like some girls believing that Queen stole the beat in Under Pressure from Vanilla Ice.
smh. =___=
sunflower / 309 posts
even if she didn’t claim to be original, I think it is common practice among artists to cite referneces. and if no one is original, then how did some of the earlier artists come up with original ideas in the first place? saying it’s hard to be original is an excuse for people with no imagination. Of course it’s hard, but in the current world we are in where arts are underfunded and everything is based on standardized testing, of course it’ll get even harder. sheesh
sunflower / 309 posts
in gaga’s defense, some of those like the lace on the face isn’t that unusual so it’s not like she copied someone specifically, but for some of the other ones, like the lobster, it’s so obvious…
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I like some of her music, but I appreciate that some people don’t mindlessly praise her for originality. She likes to be different and weird and herself and thats awesome! That doesn’t make it 100% unique, and really, what or who is 100% unique?
Doing something “unique” doesn’t always make you original.
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Lady Gaga’s such a BAMF.
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@takifugu@xanga - Exactly! On point.
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she never said that she was the one who started all of it. she never said “look what i created today”
she is just trying to draw attention to what she hold dear to her, antibullying etc. etc.
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I personally think that she wears crazy styles for a specific reason: to get negative attention and to break societal societal norms.
Why would she do such a thing?
To be a role model to those flamboyant kiddos trapped in a straight laced community, just dying to carry around a pink purse and unleash their inner diva. To inspire those that are anything but “normal” The theme of her concerts are “Have the courage to be who you want to be no matter what.” Lady Gaga is who she is -artist, performer-dancer-rule breaker, despite the negativity and whether or not you approve. Her fans support her come hell or high water. She is an inspiration to many, believe it or not.
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Lady Gaga has never, as far as I know, claimed she was original in her fashion. I think it is her fans that are doing the damage. Unfortunately, there will always be obnoxious, overly passionate and zealous fans in a fandom. See: Twilight.
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@BayCat - I dont know if I necessarily agree with that. the art world is actually growing because of the internet and the vast ways information/images are spread, and as a whole society has become a lot more visual in the last decade. (tumblr, anyone?) its about time someone like lady gaga to come along and popularize this “style” – a deviation from the norm. she also has made progress for the gay/trans/fetish community, a large part of her fan-base
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You can do the exact same thing with almost every pop star, including Madonna.
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everyone acts like gaga is super original though… they all wanna make a huge deal out of her outfits. its all been done before, for the most part… who cares either way?
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Seems like she’s just trying to be part of that group of women singers who are known to have done it already.
Kinda sounds like what we do on a regular basis as human beings…. Hmmmmm.
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she’s like the spinoff parody of the past artists, except she usually looks goofy than sexy. when I look at christina aguilera’s version of the spandex outfit, it looks hot, but when I see gaga, I just want to burst out laughing, because she looks silly. I think Madonna is prettier than her when she was in her prime and has a more distinct voice. all of them are derivitives. she mentioned one time how she is a fan of madonna, so being influenced by her is a form of flattery that she probably worships madonna. I’m a Madonna fan, so I have no prob with that:P
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GaGa is just…. GaGa
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It doesn’t really take much skill to dress fucking weird. I like her music but I hate it, too, when people claim she’s LIKEOMGTHEMOSTORIGINALPERSONEVARRRRRR. -.- No. Just no.
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I personally think her imitations butcher the originals..
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“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows.
“Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery – celebrate it if you feel like it.
“In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: ‘It’s not where you take things from – it’s where you take them to.’“
- stolen from someone because it spoke to that part of my soul that wishes everyone would shut the fuck up about Lady Gaga already
sunflower / 309 posts
@takifugu@xanga - touche on images getting spread a lot more, but tumblr isn’t exclusive to artists, and I’m sure a lot of tumblrs don’t always credit where they get an image if it isn’t their original image. And also, true that Lady Gaga has made a lot of progress for the lgbt community, but I don’t see what that has to do with this. And at the same time, sometimes the internet makes stealing easier. I know of one Deviant Art artist that got pissed when some of his images appeared in an ad on a magazine, or when that Gap t-shirt stole that picture of the old automobile. :/ There are pros and cons to everything.