On the eve of H&M’s new collaboration with Versace (I don’t know if you’ve heard), The New York Daily News reported that its photoshoot, planned to have starred three “real New York women” was given the kibosh by Donatella Versace’s people, saying two of the three models did not “fit [Versace's] branding [via Huffington Post].” The insinuation that the more affordable line is only intended to be worn by size-nothing models has caused quite a stir.
Fully named THE VERY BEST OF VERSACE for H&M, the line is an homage as well as a look forward at the fashion house’s prestigious legacy, a legacy many of its fans might not know the half of.
According to the Daily News Donatella’s intent in putting this line together was to inform a younger group of people “obsessing” over Versace’s image (namely Lady Gaga and her similar age group), what the designer label’s history was and what they stood for. Unfortunately for the models slated to appear in the shoot, the message appears to be clearly meant for select bodies only.
Do you think it’s bad PR for Versace to make such a bold statement about their every-woman-geared line? Do you think knowing this would sway anyone’s opinion in buying the coveted pieces?
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If they don’t want real women to model their clothes, how can they possibly want real women to WEAR their clothes?
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I’d boycott Versace in a heartbeat. There’s no excuse for this.
rose / 834 posts
btw, the picture of the man in the op-art b&w shirt is in my background image on my computer…. except it’s zombie boy rick genest modeling it much sexier :]
rose / 834 posts
So are they going to sell anything larger than women’s size 4?
(size 4 at h&m is very small, because I’m under a hundred lbs and can almost fit some size 4 items.)
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it’s sad that donatella disapproves of real women modeling versace…it’s not like donatella is even model looking…it’s a very bad image for the line.
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Wait! Donatella is using robots as models or models with prostetic vaginas? I get what they meant, I do agree that the line should be available to all sizes. Some of the items are gorgeous and all women should have the right to have access to them. I just hate that “real women” phrase.
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@TropicalOceanSunset@xanga - I agree. Most women are not most models’ sizes. I’d rather see what a garment looks like on all sizes, not just smaller ones.
hydrangea / 77 posts
Who would even want to be seen modeling those hideous clothes?
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wow that is a douche move right there.
sunflower / 317 posts
In my personal opinion, I feel that Donatella Versace (and other designers who share similar views) is/are like Hitler in a small sense. High fashion models are NOT superior to real women. There are more “real women” in this world than those with unrealistic model body structures. I don’t understand the fashion industry sometimes. I can understand wanting to create something for the more “elite” or even fashion that’s just for show…but when you’re creating lines that are being sold at affordable prices for us everyday people here, you should probably market them WITH real people. Or just don’t bother making such a line at all if it bothers you so much that normal people don’t look like the glamourous people you surround yourself with. For me, this move is kind an insult to us “normal” people. Just because we don’t share your elite status, doesn’t mean we can’t be fashionable as well.
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@Cayllesth@xanga - hahaha i thought the same thing, i was like, “so are there only going to be mannequins?” before i read this. i actually thought it was going to be even worse than it is, because i thought he was saying even models weren’t good enough for his clothes. still douchey, though, obviously.
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LOL Bad PR? You’re talking about it. Any publicity is good publicity.
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what i think is those two models in the first picture have some ugly faces. -_- they may look great in the clothes but it can’t hide those mugs. will i be buying this womans clothing line? prolly not. at a size 12, i MUST be too big a cow to fit in anything. lol. meh.
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im so freaking sick of people calling skinny girls “not real women” they have female genitals, they are real women. wtf. what makes fat ro “curvy” women any different?
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@Cayllesth@xanga - AGREED
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Everything about Versace is ugly – the clothing, the attitude, and for the most part, the models. This line looks like shit you wouldnt think twice about if you saw at Primark, but since it’s VERSACE and H&M suddenly youre interested…
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I mean honestly, these clothes would have been ugly in the 90s when these sort of patterns were in style.
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Well Donatella has one of the worse plastic surgery jobs in the business. Just saying.
Anyway. Its not about the brand, its how you wear it. You can have people carrying LV/Prada bags and wearing ugly flip flops. I, personally, am not in favour of spending a lot of cash on clothes that I’ll see half the girls wearing in town. I’d rather invest it in a personal, unique sense of style that stands for something more than Size 0 women.
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Okay, where is everybody getting that the “real women” were fat? I hopped over to the source, and it didn’t mention anything about bigger women… just “real” women, so is “real” now a euphemism for plus-size/fat/curvy/thick?
I don’t find it all that appalling that she would prefer professional models over “real women”. Frankly the “real women” (models are fake women, we all know that) thing sounds like it’s supposed to gather attention like a reality show, perhaps they want to avoid that vibe.
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1.) I do not covet those clothes at all. They look like some really bad early ’90s crap I would find at Goodwill (for a LOT less money)…I would be ridiculed for wearing any of those things to work or out to a bar. Not that it has stopped me from numerous odd hairstyles, but that stuff is only “coveted” because it’s fucking Versace. But label-whores will buy it.
2.) Well…I’m not sure Donatella Versace qualifies as a “real” woman either because so much of her is fake (plastic surgery, hair, fucking gross-ass wrinkly tanned skin). I mean seriously. If she’s going to be an elitist bitch, then it’s only fair to be truthful about her. But I guess being rich and famous means you can say anything and people will still want to kiss your ass and buy your shit.
3.) I think the phrase “real women” is referring to “normal” women, as in women who are not fashion models. The point of this post was not to skinny-bash even though that’s what pretty much everybody immediately assumes. The point was to say that Versace is elitist and didn’t want non-models to model their clothes, not that they only want skinny people to wear their clothes.
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@WaitingToShrug@xanga - I was wondering the same thing about the “real women” phrase. I don’t think that’s what it meant, I think it meant non-models or non-famous-people. But even though we all say we’re sick of the fat vs. skinny issue, that is what people seem to immediately assume even when it wasn’t mentioned :/ Annoying.
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BLAH BLAH BLAH size, weight, shape, normal, real, average, too this, too that………….
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That old hag can eat dirt.
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somehow this reminds me of her daughter….*coughs*
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she’s a diva
I can only picture kanye west wearing this style of clothing because he’s also a diva
she’s marketing the clothes to tacky divas and in the picture, they are literally turning their snob noses in the air
the buckteeth thing that I’ve seen a lot of models doing is so hideous.
orchid / 159 posts
Model’s are real women, too.
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I may be in the minority here, but I really don’t think anyone should be upset about this. Fashion is all about creating an image and then selling that image. Clearly the current image works for Versace and they shouldnt have hire “real” women (whatever that means) just because it makes you feel good. If you don’t like the clothes don’t buy them, but seriously this is no reason to get your panties in a bunch.
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LOL the clothes are hideous anyway.
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ALL companies do this. This is pretty much just like another post I saw this week. Women support these attitudes by supporting these companies with their money. If they only want to sell to size 0, then there must be enough size 0 people to support the company.
Any company is completely entitled to brand themselves as they please. If they don’t want to be known as a company that supports larger people, they shouldn’t be pressured to use bigger models. Don’t buy their stuff if you don’t like them.
orchid / 148 posts
@hot_metalhead@xanga - actually, the author of this post did mention it:
“The insinuation that the more affordable line is only intended to be worn by size-nothing models has caused quite a stir.”
“…the message appears to be clearly meant for select bodies only.”
the source, however, does not mention size.
daffodil / 1607 posts
wtf is a “real” woman? In this case it seems to be women who are not size nothing, meaning that the “size nothing” people are not real.
Unless she explicitly said “I don’t want real women to model these clothes,” I dont think it’s anywhere as heinous as what people are making it out to be. We praise other women for their looks, she and the rest of the fashion industry and the world do as well
And a lot of lines are like this, they go for an image. Think of how models are picked, it’s kinda the same thing.
Not all women can look high fashion, but all women are real.
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Try being a size 18 and seeing all size 4-6 models in the plus size catalogs (like Roamans and Woman Within) Unless they model them on the sizes they expect to wear them, no way you can tell how they will look.
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Who says real women = women who are bigger than a 2/4? People just assume that they only want size 0 models. Has anyone ever though that it really could be because they don’t fit the image?
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I wish people would use a different word than “real” when they’re trying to express size differences. Models are real too, ya know. They eat, bleed, and cry just like the rest of us… well maybe they eat differently – but the point stands. Unless if you’re trying to imply that Versace is going to be using computer generated models.
peony / 1 posts
That’s why I tend to order clothes from websites that let customers post reviews and pictures. I care about what I am going to look like in a garment. I already know what somebody with an ideal body looks like. I see images of perfectly formed women more than I see myself.