Xanga user missbartleby asks:
…I’m going to be a senior in high school, and I’ve seen my cool friends wear make up almost everyday since we were freshmen. Although my wardrobe ‘progressed’ over the years (Serious, I used to wear men’s clothes), I never smeared myself with any of that make up stuff with the exception of lip stick for choir concerts. Here are the reasons I’ve been holding out:
1. I use friends’ skills for free: I never bothered to learn it. Every time I go to a show or a dance, I ask my friends to put on make up for me. I would just give them a make up kit to use, close my eyes/do whatever they tell me to, and thank them immensely and get on with it. Actually, every time, I would run around like an immature child and laugh, ‘Gah! Don’t look at me! There’s something on my face!’ Then I’d get on with it.
2. It feels awkward: Afterward, I’m eager to wash it all off after an event, because I feel insecure and not myself when wearing it. I’m afraid my lip stick will smear, my eyeliner will run, my mascara will be messy, etc. I overall, can’t look in the mirror with make up on without a feeling of weird, like ‘o_O.’
3. The whole idea of make up: I always believed that my face is my face, if it’s not good enough then whatever. Putting on makeup sounds like painting my face like a mask and that my real face is too plain or not good enough (‘accentuate this!’ ‘bring out the color of this!’)
I’ve got the grades, nerdy hobbies, and volunteer work that boosted my confidence in high school. But what about after high school? If I just want to look decent in college and in the workplace, should I care beauty standards as an adult? How does society in general view women who wear zero make up? Why do women wear make up in the first place?
I’ve never been a big fan of taking time out of my day to apply makeup. I usually save it for special occasions, but I also know people who feel naked going out without. It’s an individual thing. You shouldn’t feel pressured to wear it if it’s not what you want.
If you’re worried that you might need to know how to apply makeup in the future, then ask your friends to teach you a few basics. I find that just some natural-colored eye shadow and a little bit of mascara is enough to get me through special occasions. When I go out during the weekend, I add some eyeliner, but that’s about it. Majority of the time, people can’t even tell that I’m wearing any makeup at all.
Coming from someone who usually doesn’t wear makeup, I can say that “society” (AKA the people I know) often say that I should wear makeup to appear more grown-up and fashionable. They tell me that although I don’t look bad without makeup, I look better with it. So there’s definitely an idea that women should wear makeup, but I don’t think society necessarily condemns those who don’t.
After having a conversation with Lovelyish‘s editor Beca, we decided that most girls wear makeup to boost their confidence around other women. Girls will put on makeup because their friends do, which explains why you might feel the need to do so as well. It’s natural to want to do what everyone else is doing, especially when it comes to beauty. It’s important to remember that you don’t need the makeup just because you might have friends who like it.
Overall, I would say if you feel confident sans makeup and you don’t feel comfortable with it on, then don’t force yourself to wear it. It’s not worth the trouble if it makes you worry and feel bad about your appearance.
What do you think, Lovelies? Do you think women who don’t wear makeup are viewed differently than those who do?
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If you do not want to wear makeup, you can most definitely choose to not wear it. I usually only wear makeup when I am going out. Work, school, or grocery shopping–never, unless it is a special occasion like a work holiday party. Should you ever decide to wear it, just go with what you’re comfortable with. Even when I wear makeup, I usually only try to do a natural look, anything more makes me feel like I look like a clown. If you are neat and clean, hair combed and clothes that fit well, it should be enough. I prefer that over women who have makeup caked on their face and clothes 3 sizes too small. When I am not wearing makeup, I am sure to clean, moisturize my skin and wear skin protection (SPF) and to groom my eyebrows. My eyebrows can be pretty crazy if I don’t. I think groomed eyebrows do a lot to make your face look polished, with or without makeup.
hydrangea / 76 posts
To each their own. Simple as that.. I for one, love make-up!
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I’m 16 and I’ve never worn makeup! At first I never cared about it, but now I want to. I would only wear it for special occasions though, I think it’s unnecessary to wear it on a daily basis, or everytime you go out.
Wearing makeup is your own choice
magnolia / 1357 posts
You don’t have to wear makeup if you don’t want to.
It all depends on how you dress and do your hair… if you want to wear some makeup, then you can wear tinted moisturizer and perhaps learning how to draw on a thin line of eyeliner would be helpful.
You really shouldn’t feel obligated to wear makeup if you don’t want to. You say you’re always nervous of your makeup running, so buy waterproof makeup and skip out on the lipstick, wear tinted Burt’s Bees chapstick.
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make up is a great way to protect your face from the harsh weather. if you live anywhere that’s cold, the cold could dry up your skin and sometimes moisturizer’s not enough. i don’t think people are viewed differently who don’t wear makeup. i’ve always worn makeup so when i don’t wear any, people ask me if i’m ok or i’m sick.
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If you want to wear make up, go for it. If you don’t want to wear make up, don’t.
And then don’t worry about how others view you because you do you, don’t be something you don’t even want to be.
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Because society shames women into it. I legit read a status from one of my facebook “friends” that was by Coco Chanel (so this is to be expected) that said, “I don’t understand how a woman can leave the house without fixing herself up a little–if only out of politeness.[...]” and went on to say something about destiny. Do you know what that quote says? Be ashamed of how you look naturally; use makeup to “better” yourself for other people. That’s sick!!
I wear makeup from time to time nowadays. I used to wear it constantly (just normal foundation/eye shadow/mascara, nothing scary or over the top) until my boyfriend, of all people, convinced me not to. He let me know I was beautiful without the faux coverage. My skin has improved immensely. That says enough to me.
Why don’t men wear makeup? would be a better question…
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A lot of people like to pretend that if you’re in nice clothes and do your hair well that it’s okay to not wear makeup and you’ll still look put together. But. Realistically – most women AREN’T especially great at dressing themselves well OR doing their hair (although most seem to think they are!). So the average women with no makeup… looks sloppy. Unless you’re VERY confident in your clothing/hair styling skills… I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone.
You can wear natural, neutral makeup and still look like ‘yourself’. It doesn’t have to be a huge, painted on deal.
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Yeeeeeah, I don’t ever wear make up. Nor do I feel “pressured” to wear it, either. Even if every chick I knew was telling me I should wear it, I’d tell them to shove it. =) But I’m a very opinionated individual, sooooo… yeah. I like my face, without it looking like a crayon raped it.
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - Yeahh. If you see a woman with 3″ of fat hanging over her pants… do you tell her? No? Because it’d be rude. Most people think the same way. Just because people are too polite to TELL you that you look sloppy… doesn’t mean you don’t.
That first photo looks INCREDIBLY sloppy. Unbrushed looking frizzy hair… illfitting, rumpled leggings, converse sneakers… are you serious?
That second photo CERTAINLY doesn’t look well put together. It looks like a pretty girl having an “I don’t give a shit what I look like” day. AND you can’t even see half of what she’s wearing, so for all we know, she’s got on sweatpants with holes in them.
The third photo isn’t even close enough up for you to SEE if she has makeup on… so Idk wtf you think that proves?
The fourth photo you can’t even see what she’s wearing to make a proper judgement on whether or not she looks sloppy… so again. That proves nothing.
I actually live in Los Angeles, where, I assure you, there are many stores other than a Walmart.
There’s nothing wrong with my expectations being set above “passable”. Judging from your facebook photo with your frumpy clothing and unfortunate hair-style that’s clearly illsuited to your face shape… I’d say you’re hardly the person to accurately state whether or not the people around you look good.
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Well, in all fairness, there is a huge difference between costume makeup and every day makeup. At least, there should be O_o
Also, its a personal choice, and if you don’t wanna wear it, more power to you :] I’m a one-swipe-of-eyeliner type of girl, I hate gunking up my face with concealer and powder and all that junk. I just feel dirtier and if I touch my face at all, I’ll just have to fix it again.
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great advice!
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@pnfpn@xanga - you’re from los angeles. that explains everything. ignore her, @Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook
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I started wearing makeup at 16 because of acne. I haaaaated makeup. I now enjoy wearing eye shadow and occasionally eye liner but do not wear mascara because I don’t want it to run or smear when I’m doing what I do. I don’t like dressing in skimpy, unsupportive clothing either for the same reason, I like to be prepared for what comes, say, some chick picking a bar fight or a shooting or a broken down vehicle on date night…ya never know. I like to remain “minimalistic” so that I can survive should the worst occur. It makes me feel better prepared. More of us need to relish wearing our clean skin, I only wish mine was not blemished.
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - Oh work is fine, but ya never know what might happen in life lol. Thanks, I’ve had acne for 10 years now heh ah well, I’m used to it.
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@pretty_inx_plaid@xanga - You clearly can’t read. I said I LIVED in Los Angeles. I’m not FROM Los Angeles… so it doesn’t explain anything and doesn’t have any impact on my opinion that people should engage in basic grooming habits. But thanks for playing, even if you failed miserably.
@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - I don’t have excessively high standards. You just have very low ones.
I’m not sorry you find my attitude to be rude. Perhaps you ought to change the way you talk to people if you expect politeness. Perhaps you ought get a hobby so that you aren’t so desperate for attention you have to stalk through comments hours after you’ve made your point for someone to reply to.
I don’t find that my views are in the minority. If my views were in the minority… than why do the majority of women wear makeup?
You provided an example of someone from the shoulders up… so clearly you seem to think you can judge a person’s whole appearance from just that. So that’s what I did. I was just playing by your rules.
There are plenty of people who shop at ‘nice’ stores… who don’t know how to pick out clothing that looks good on their body. And plenty of stores that sell ‘nice’ clothing still always have a few atrocious pieces.
As for your hair… no. It’s not that I don’t *think* it suits you… I’m looking at it right now. It is NOT a flattering cut. It makes your face shape look really unattractive. Also, I didn’t say anything about your bad skin.*I’m* not the one trying to use myself as an example. The point that I was making was that people tend to think women without makeup look more put together. Posting a picture of myself, with makeup, doesn’t prove anything without a basis of comparison. I’d just be posting a picture for the sake of amusing you.
As for me being able to be as bitch as I like because it’s the internet and there are no repercussions… what repercussions do you think there’d be in real life? Do you REALLY think that if in real life tomorrow… some ugly girl with a face that all the surgery in the world couldn’t make pretty, and a terrible hair cut told me that girls shouldn’t wear makeup because she doesn’t wear makeup and look how good she looks… and I told her that she didn’t make a good argument for her case… that there would be some repercussions that would change my mind?
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - You’re right about one thing. It IS pathetic and sad. All you’ve done here is imply there’s something wrong with me or my level of confidence… while boasting about your own confidence.
On the other hand, while I pointed out that you’re frumpy and your styling skills are not good enough to fit your ‘hair + clothes – makeup = chic’ formula… I’ve never said there was anything WRONG with you for wanting to be that way.
I find it sad that you think “honesty” is someone talking big behind a computer. It’s really not outrageous at all to tell someone they’re not a good example of well put together without makeup. Also - I don’t know why you care so much about the women on makeupalley. For someone with “so much confidence” you really need to learn to stand on your own.
Btw – Your attempt to goad me into posting pictures is really getting creepy. It has no bearing on my point (which was that the average woman doesn’t have the hair/styling skills to look put together without makeup to assist, since you seemed to have missed that). You just want one. If I posted pictures for everyone who wanted to see more of me… I wouldn’t have time for anything else in the day. I’ll still gladly post pictures as soon as you can tell me what in god’s name it has to do with my point.
Maybe next time you want to comment at someone… you might try putting some of that so-called confidence into play and learn to have a discussion that isn’t you alternating insulting people and begging for pics like a creep.
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - Awwww. How convenient that you changed your picture after getting called out on how frumpy you looked. LOL
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@pnfpn@xanga - same shit… you lived there, you have the same mindset as most people who live there. i don’t wear make up but people think i look “presentable”.
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@pnfpn@xanga - if your purpose was to come here and troll, then whoopdeefuckingdoo, you’ve done a stellar job at it! someone give this bitch a medal.
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@pretty_inx_plaid@xanga - Of course. Because all stereotypes are true. You’re brilliant.
I didn’t come here to troll anyone. I haven’t trolled anyone. Someone has repeatedly commented at me and insulted me… I’ve merely replied to the topic at hand and the things they brought up in their comment.
You clearly don’t understand what trolling is.
It’s sad that you feel the need to stereotype and insult people who’ve done nothing to you. You must be a really sad person.
@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - Clearly the last paragraph didn’t describe trolling at all. Because you haven’t got the faintest clue what it is.Also. LOL @ “I didn’t even read her comment, but I read this other one so let me make sure and leave a comment *to someone else* to justify it so that everyone knows that I’m not hiding my former frumpy, unattractive picture but she won’t see it and call me out on it!” The fact that you constantly have to justify your appearance shows exactly how much confidence you DON’T have.
It’s okay, though… that you changed your profile picture so no one else could come along and see how frumpy you are. It’s okay though, if you don’t want to admit it. Not everyone is comfortable in their own skin.
I’m sure you’ll think this is trolling, too. In which case, I invite you to look in the mirror… because this is exactly the type of comments you’ve been leaving.
Btw – it’s really sad that you guys have to ban together and try to convince yourselves that I’m the bad person while you both hurl insults. Maybe you two should work on your convidence while you’re trying to climb up on your “I don’t wear makeup” platform.
Oh… and I’d like you both to know that while you were sitting at home being sad and obsessing over me… I went out and had a great time and forgot all about you till I came home and saw your new comments on my feed.
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@Rose_Hikari@xanga - Everyone should fix themselves up a bit before leaving. Not just women. I’m sick of the AMerican custom of going out with barely having taking a shower. It’s generally gross.
I wear makeup because I feel it makes my pretty things look even prettier and my not so cute things (say a pimple) hide out a bit. I don’t wear a lot of makeup, but yeah… it helps me feel a bit prettier. You don’t have to wear makeup to look good though. In fact, NO makeup is better than bad makeup, or excessive makeup!
@pnfpn@xanga – I actually agree with you (you word things quite harshly but other than that agree). EVERYONE, men AND women, should try to look better than how they woke up in. Shave, wear some makeup, clean clothes, deodorant, shower, etc. It just makes you more respectable.
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - He’s not a douche. Not wearing makeup and general sloppiness is pretty particular to American culture. Go to Latin America or heaven forbid Eastern Europe and your feminism would be kicked in the crotch with the heels, makeup and mini skirts! It’s not about being “shamed” into thinking you’re ugly, it’s about trying to look your best, and therefore FEELING your best. Do you need makeup for that? No, but it certainly helps.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Okay, showering and wearing makeup are completely different haha. Showering is essential to health. Makeup is superfluous.
I honestly think that if women stopped wearing so much makeup then they would stop having so many skin problems. Putting all that artificial stuff on your face for the majority of your day just isn’t good for your skin. It’s not even women who wear a LOT of makeup–uh, Jersey Shore–but even if you put on a daily foundation + powder you’re closing up your pores and essentially giving yourself problems. Also, if women would just accept themselves for who they are, minus the makeup, they’d likely be happier with themselves. Not to mention the money you could save, because even drugstore makeup isn’t that inexpensive.
Men don’t feel this odd need to change their faces in order to feel attractive. Why should we? No one complains that men look ugly and tired and gross if they don’t have makeup on. And if a guy has a pimple no one cares. Honestly. His friends don’t say, “Eugh, dude, get some coverup.” Why do women freak out? It’s an obsession with perfection. We’re better off loving ourselves for who are, no makeup and all.
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - Exactly. If you’re in a relationship you’re not wearing makeup all the time anyway. Eventually, your boyfriend will see you without makeup. If he’s disappointed or something then there’s NO reason to be with him. No one should make you feel like you’re ugly if you don’t have X amount of fake makeup on your face. Women need to find confidence in themselves.
Not to mention, once I stopped wearing makeup around my boyfriend, he couldn’t tell much a difference aside from the mascara/eye shadow, which is obvious. My skin was relatively clear, but I was just self conscious about it because I had always worn makeup. So, he made me wonder if makeup was even benefiting me at ALL or if it was just my mind making me believe I needed the makeup as a crutch. So I don’t wear it much anymore. Just special occasions. My skin is so pretty now! My blackheads are virtually gone, my pores are tiny, and my I don’t get many pimples. I’m proud to not wear makeup. It was causing problems in the first place–and I want to be clear that it wasn’t because I caked it on. I just wore it everyday.
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I think an ideal everyday make up is one that makes you look natural, just a little ‘improved’. Some ppl, especially darker skin types and people with naturally clear skin don’t have much left to do. I think it’s all about looking healthy and fresh not make up or lack thereof. Its ppl with too much make up who look weird to me.
and I agree with the avie given in the blog.
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I wear makeup because I personally feel it makes me look more awake and healthy. Along with being exceptionally pale, I have very low iron levels. There’s nothing wrong with being pale (in my opinion), but the problem is that I can easily look sickly and tired because of my iron levels and inevitable dark circles under my eyes. I wear a bit of concealer under my eyes to fix up the dark circles, and some face brightening makeup primer and pink blush to make me look glowy and healthy. I wear eyeliner to define my eyes a bit more, and curl and put mascara on my lashes to make my eyes look more open and to show them off a bit, because my eyes are one of my favourite features. I like to think that I’m creative, so sometimes I have fun experimenting with my makeup, and in my opinion it’s just another way to convey your personality. It’s not that I think I’m ugly without makeup, but I feel prettier with it on. I don’t like to wear more excessive makeup like foundation or lipstick, simply because I don’t feel comfortable in it, and I tend to get distracted, knowing there might be lipstick on my teeth or that I might have a foundation line on my neck or something. I also don’t often wear much eyeshadow, partly because I have oily skin and it tends to crease, and also because I wear contacts and that stuff sucks to try and get out of my eyes if even a speck of it happens to get in there.
This is probably the longest comment I’ve ever written, but I feel like it’s an important issue below the surface. Whether you wear makeup and how much of it you decide is necessary seems pretty closely linked with self confidence and your perspective on beauty, and I just hope that the asker doesn’t feel obligated to wear makeup because of societal norms.
That being said, there is no problem with not wearing makeup, whatever your reasons are. I know some people feel like they’re lying when they wear makeup, which I suppose is understandable.
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@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Oh I definitely agree… grooming and looking your best shouldn’t be limited to women only. (Forgive my harsh phrasing! I tend to… not be as polite to people who reply rudely to me!
I remember when I was, like, 16… I’d stopped by my mother’s work place after school… and some of the ladies of the office were all gossiping about the new temp and how disrespectful it was that she would show up looking like she blatantly didn’t give a damn about the job. She looked no worse than anyone… save for her lack of makeup. And these were 30-40 something ‘basic makeup’ women… so it’s not like they were fashionistas with ‘unreachable standards’. They referred to her as looking like she’d just rolled out of bed and staggered in.
It made me realize that how you choose to present yourself has an impact on you socially and professionally… whether you like it or not.
People can talk about how chic and awesome no makeup is until they’re blue in the face… but they’re still going to get judged for not wearing it.
I don’t think a 2 minute face for work – mascara, powder, blush is a HUGE compromise if it helps make you look to your coworkers/boss like you want to be there.
@Rose_Hikari@xanga - Actually… I think makeup really helps my skin in the winter time when I’m in colder areas! A heavy duty moisturizer with some spf foundation locks the moisture in/protects from the sun and keeps the harsh winds from irritating my bare skin!
Obviously not a day-to-day scenario for everyone… but sometimes makeup can be a good thing for skin.
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I’m so naturally gorgeous makeup makes me look uglier
haha kidding. I’ve never had skin problems and I always felt getting a full night’s sleep was a better solution that concealer. And I hate looking like someone I’m not, which is what I feel like even with just a bit of eyeliner and mascara on. Therefore, no makeup for me
The general way I hold myself–attitude, confidence, the whole thang–tends to garner me more compliments (and $$$ promotions) from the boss than whether or not I paint my face. Sorry to rain on anyone’s parade if they think wearing makeup will help them when their skills fail.
On this whole LA thing: I am from LA. Does that make me a snob or something?
rose / 980 posts
I rarely would wear makeup. In high school it was no big deal at all. In college, nobody noticed. See when you never wear makeup it is not as noticeable as when you always do. Guys, frankly, just don’t care. I got through the Navy without wearing makeup on a regular basis. Guys still even hit on me and stuff, they don’t care. The most judgment I ever got was from women who felt I was lazy and not putting forth my best effort. It is silly what women do to other women. Sad.
Good luck! Go without makeup if you feel great without it.
daisy / 734 posts
Most days I hardly wear any make-up, if I wear any at all. If I’m going out and want to do something funky (like bright red lips or a smoky eye) I’ll put on make-up, since I enjoy playing with it and changing up how I look, but it’s not something that I can’t go without. I think as long as you take care of your skin you have nothing to worry about.
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I started wearing make up.. What? A year ago, I think.
I only wear eye make0up and refuse to wear anything else. I wear it because I feel better in it, I feel more feminine. (I’m not exactly a looker) But I feel too… flakey, I guess is the term, when I wear foundation or whatever. Just not my thing, I guess.
But I see plenty of girls who don’t wear make up and they still look beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, though.
Make up isn’t something you should wear because people tell you to, you should wear it because you want to.
If you wear too much, then it does hide your face. And a way to get experienced with it is just to play with it in your own free time. It’s a girl-play, so have fun with it!
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I don’t wear acne because it irritates my skin and causes acne, plus I’m lazy. Yes I wear it if I have a formal or professional thing to do, but since I’m in uni I can avoid it and just not care. Maybe I’ll start wearing it more after I have PDT and it doesn’t show off my acne, but I think I’ll be too excited to have clear skin not to ruin it with makeup.
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@pnfpn@xanga - you know, people will respect your opinion more if you don’t retort to catty comebacks
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If you do not feel any need to wear makeup then their is no reason to do so. Regardless, sometimes it’s nice to wear going out but it is hardly a necessity. I’m one of those people who is allergic to literally all makeup (yes including sensitive skin makeup). I developed this allergy over time. I used to wear makeup, so at times i do miss it when i get dressed up to go out, but it’s not like it has dimished my quality of life. In fact, living without makeup, hair products, ect has made my life better in some respects (which is a long story lol) Anyways, point is, if you don’t want to then simply don’t
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I wear make-up to try to look my best and to cover up imperfections/acne so that ppl don’t have to deal with looking at it. And I think it’s more professional because you look put together. It’s a confidence booster.
I never thought about it as doing it b/c everyone else is, but hey I guess I am.
I wear BareMinerals make-up, some foundation, a lil color just a little on the cheeks and a bit of mascara to darken the lashes. I don’t apply much because just a little bit goes along way. Lately, I skip the eye shadow to try to look more natural. I find that BareMinerals gives you a second skin, it’s nice. I haven’t tried tons of other makeups, but powder is best for my sensitive skin (combination) type.
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I generally don’t wear makeup (I only wear it for parties etc) because it’s a big ass pain to put on and take off. But I’m pretty without it. I guess if you feel not pretty then you wear makeup. That seems to be why girls slap it on 24/7.
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@pnfpn@xanga - no i do not respect the opinions of people that resort to name calling either.
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@hazywaters@xanga - I see you’ve only directed this reply at me. Am I to assume, then, that you respect the opinions of people who call each other douchebag and bitch?
Is pointing out that someone’s clearly demonstrated their lack of confidence somehow MORE catty than ‘name calling’? Sorry… I’m just trying to make sure we’re all being clear here.
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@hazywaters@xanga - The fact of the matter is… this is a person trying to make an argument about how confident they are and how excellent women with no makeup look… who HID their picture as soon as they were told it didn’t look as good as they thought. It invalidates everything she said in my opinion, and I found that it was worth pointing out.
Could I have been nicer about it? Probably.
But I also don’t think it really has anything to do with my original post. ;D
Besides. A more polite tone is hardly grounds for gaining respect. There are plenty of politely phrased replies all throughout the ish sites that are dumb as hell and not worth respecting.
(Sorry. I’m on a comment editing SPREE right now)
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@pnfpn@xanga - lol fair enough
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@Ashley Nicole Anders@facebook - yea makeup sometimes can have that effect on acne, but it helps to hide the outstanding red! sometimes a touch is enough. I’d rather cover it up with foundation, ppl aren’t that close to notice or if they do hey, I tried! powder make-up isn’t good in humidity btw.
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@pnfpn@xanga - You don’t even have a profile picture showing your face. o_0
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@blackspiders@xanga - I don’t. I stopped using myself as my photo picture after that time I got a message from someone informing me they’d printed out my photos so they could “cum on my face” after they’d finished masturbating to me.*_* I used to get a LOT of random pervy messages with myself as a profile image, even on shots from the neck up. Not using myself as a profile image cuts down on that nonsense. I’ll use my own image on places like MM where it’s necessary… but outside of that… I prefer not to get random messages detailing sexual fantasies about me (unless they’re from hot women).
But I was never trying to use myself as an example to prove my point here.
Like I said. I’ll gladly throw up a picture as soon as someone gives me a valid reason how it helps me prove my point.
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Don’t wear make-up because others think you should…only wear it if YOU want to.
I always wear foundation due to acne and acne scars, but I very rarely wear anything more than that. I choose chapstick over lipgloss or lipstick and only do eye make up for special occasions. Blush and bronzer? My pores would punish me severely. I get along just fine with just foundation. I wear it for me, because I feel more confident when my acne is less apparent.
Do what makes you feel good and comfortable.
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@pnfpn@xanga - You are really rude. Instead of focusing on how pretty you look you should work on “beautifying” up that nasty attitude of yours. Then you can be pretty on the outside AND on the inside. Yayyyy.
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@tru3st0ry@xanga - Yes. I should really work on not being rude to people who call me a douchebag. Just like you should work on minding your own business. Seriously, though… what world do you live in that people should be criticized for responding rudely to people who insult them?
In the REAL world, I constantly get told how much people love how direct I am and how I always say what’s on my mind… That I have the confidence not to bullshit people and fake nice with strangers for no reason. So. I’m pretty sure my attitude is just fine, thanks.
I never anything about being pretty, or that I was focused on how pretty I look. Actually… at no point was I even referring specifically to myself. So how about you work on your reading skills, please.
DERP.
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@pnfpn@xanga - derp
derp derp. I went back and read the original post between you and the
girl you were insulting and discovered that you were insulted first. No
one should insult someone else over a simple difference of views about
whether or not women should always wear makeup. I understand the need to
defend yourself and just found your responses to be kinda insecure. When I read your statements about not posting a picture of yourself because people said they wanted to “cum on your face” I thought you were bragging about how you were so gorgeous that people can’t even see your face without ejaculating, I see that is not the case.
I felt like there was an inconsistency between wanting to be not sloppy in looks and being sloppy in personality (but as we all see now it was just self defense). I don’t know why you would want to fake beauty for strangers by applying makeup, since you do not want to be fake polite to them. But you know… each person is different. You also decided the girl changed her picture because of something you did which is kinda egocentric.
I am analyzing this wayyyy too much now. Hah.
Have a good day, sorry for excess trouble.
daisy / 502 posts
The only reason you “should” wear makeup is because you want to, not because others are wearing it -_-
I personally wear makeup, because I’m just more confident when I do so. Makeup also acts as a protectant against environmental agents.
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@tru3st0ry@xanga - Lol. No. Noooo. I would never brag about being harassed by internet perverts. I was just trying to explain that there’s a legit reason that I’m not like “Oh you want pictures!?! Ya okay!” It’s the internet… most people get harassed by perverts… but I seem to get the really persistent type of creepers. Just one of those faces, I suppose.
I don’t really think it’s faking beauty to apply makeup. I mean… makeup can’t change your bone structure or give you a nose job. All well-applied makeup should really do (Not talking about, like, the type of makeup girls like to wear out… just general day-to-day ‘going to work’ stuff) is bring attention to the features you want to highlight and hide minor skin flaws that pop up from time to time. IMO – and this is just my opinion here – applying makeup is on par with styling your hair and dressing nicely. If you take ten minutes to throw in hot rollers in the morning… those big beautiful curls aren’t what you really look like either. Just like that shirt with the cinched in waist makes you look thinner than you are and your pants (possibly) cover cellulite.
It all serves to make you look a little better than you probably do.
Definitely agree that it’s pretty egocentric to assume that *I* was the reason she changed her profile picture… but the timing of it would seem to imply that it may have been the case. And, well, I’m not a total egomaniac… but I have my moments. ;D
And no trouble, at all. Your point about fake beauty v. fake polite was a valid one. I suppose it’s really a matter of – looking nice is expected as a working professional and serves as an outward display of confidence… faking nice (for me – obviously this is dependent upon career choice) isn’t as necessary as long as results are produced.
hydrangea / 88 posts
It might be different at other colleges, but where I go, you can instantly spot a freshman girl the first few weeks by how much makeup they put on every single day to class. Later on in college, I find that girls barely have time for makeup or never put them on. So you might just fit right in when you go to college.
Right now my boyfriend actually hates when I wear makeup and thinks I look better without it. But I like putting makeup on for myself. I mean, I didn’t spend over $100 of this stuff to just..not use it. I think that’s the only reason why you should put makeup on. For yourself.
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After your freshman year of college, don’t bother… especially once you’re in your twenties. Wearing makeup because your classes are part freshmen is kinda like wearing pigtails because you work at a daycare. A bare face is taken as being all business, and dressing the part is easier than keeping up with the latest trends – just pay attention to the younger professors and you’ll be fine. Would you like to look not-”frumpy” or would you like a little extra help making the connections you need to get into grad school? If this is a difficult question you might be part of the reason there are more freshmen than seniors.