Anybody else out there roll their eyes when they see a “Future Mrs. Beiber” shirt or a “Future Mrs. Pattinson” shirt? SubVerse Clothing seems to be of the same mindset: They’re sick of women being defined by their relationship status and created this shirt (“I’m not Future Mrs. ANYTHING”) for those who feel the same way. As someone who took my husband’s last name, I love these shirts, and here’s why.
First, here is SubVerse’s take on the matter, in the description of the shirt for sale on their site:
Young boys aren’t taught that their entire identities and happiness center around a relationship with a woman. Why do we teach young women that their identities and worth are so tentative and conditional, and dependent upon the validation of a man? Why must the markers of a woman’s identity change so drastically in response to her relationship status? Why is a woman defined by her relationships, and how society views those relationships?
Just like the French feminists fighting to ban the word ‘Mademoiselle,’ SubVerse doesn’t agree with the inequality of traditional methods of identity in regards to women, since men don’t even have to consider changing anything after being married. In the United States, when a woman becomes legally married she has the choice to change her last name to her husband’s name, to hyphenate their names, or to keep her own.
And therein lies my point: She has the choice. There could be a million reasons a woman would want to change her name or not, just like women who want to get married or not. I’m a feminist who chose to get married when I fell in love, and I chose to share his last name. My reason? Dear Lovelies, my original last name (Parker) made everybody after 1999 associate me with Sex and the City — and especially after I moved to New York. Handing over my credit card at a store, I got so many Sarah Jessica Parker comparisons I was truly sick of my last name. Plus, as a lady who grew up in the military her whole life, moving from place to place every two years, I LOVE CHANGE. Getting a new last name was a big change, but I liked it. It was my choice. My husband nor family would have cared whether I kept my last name or hyphenated it. It wasn’t too big of a deal, because the person I am is not defined by my last name.
That’s where these ‘Future Mrs. Timberlake’ shirts get it wrong — they’re proposing that the girl wearing the shirt is defined by it. I don’t walk around with my last name emblazoned on my shirt showing off that I’m married. These ‘Mrs.’ shirts are saying that in the future, the girl won’t be Jane Doe, she’ll be somebody else’s object; her identity will become that of someone else.
The SubVerse shirt is clever because it shoots these ’Mrs.’ shirts down — they’re not talking about your actions (though they could be), they’re talking about how you define yourself. I never use the term “Mrs.” as a married person. That’s the thing that really irks me: When I have to decide a title before my first name. Just recently it was an option when buying an Amtrak ticket, but I left it blank — ladies get all the choices:
Why would the train conductor care if I’m married, single, or ambiguously ‘Ms.’? They certainly don’t care about the men’s relationship status. So, I stay blank. I’m Jessica — and for most people, that should be all they need to know.
What do you think, Lovelies? Do you dig the shirt? If you’re planning on getting married someday, will you change your name in any way? Do you think it’s fair for women to be defined by their relationships?
As for me, at $22, I’d wear it!
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I love this shirt.
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Mrs Miss Ms, wtf?
I get that Mrs is you’re married, but Miss and Ms?
Is there even a DIFFERENCE?
And didn’t back in the day they use to call women by their husband’s full name too?
Like: Mrs John Smith
(I’d say that one would really rankle with the identity thing lol and being defined by your husband!)
I don’t really care personally, if I married, I wouldn’t mind taking my wife’s last name if she really hated mine or whatnot. =/
Doesn’t bother me!
dahlia / 2382 posts
I’m keeping my name the same. Marriage isnt the “giving your daughter away & she’s her husband’s (in the property type way) anymore”. And the name change was never mandatory, you have to change it yourself. My name is my identity & shouldnt be taken away.
I agree with the women of France. Why is there 3 options for women but one for the man? Just call me by my name.
dahlia / 2382 posts
@xFatallyFlawed@xanga - Regarding the “Ms”, it’s fairly recent. It was made so you wouldnt know if the lady was a Mrs. or Miss but for a while it was used just for divorced women. I’m single & I get some formal mail addressed as Miss or Ms. Depends on the person.
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If my boyfriend and I get married, I will take his last name. I like his last name…plus, my last name is Campbell, and, similar to your situation, I’ve heard enough soup jokes to last a lifetime.
Plus, I feel like if we’re going to start a family, we should all have the same last name, and I’ve always found hyphenating a little too confusing and complicated. Its only a name, changing it isn’t going to change who I am.
daffodil / 1525 posts
Cool, I like it.
rose / 802 posts
I’ll get rid of my last name if I marry because, well, I hate it. But I dig the shirt, too.
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I plan on keeping my name when I get married.
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I was happy when my dad suggested that I hyphenate my last name when I get married. He said it’s actually very common in other cultures. Here, it tends to be more about promoting “equality” amongst spouses which I do appreciate. For me, another big reason is to carry on the family name, since my dad was the only son in his family of 9 sisters, all of which either a) do not have kids or b) took the names of their husbands.
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I’m married and just go by my husband’s last name. I don’t think it would make me feel weird or insecure about going by my own maiden name if I hadn’t gotten married. To me, a shirt like this just shouts “I’m bitter!” about not being married. It just seems like it is making a huge statement which no one cares about! Okay, so you’re single or unmarried. Does anyone care? Nope.
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Im not too sure what I will do.. My last name has terrible memories but so does my boyfriends last name.. I want to change it to something I actually like!
sunflower / 284 posts
@Celtic_haven@xanga - I don’t think that’s the point. It’s not about being single/unmarried (after all, the “future Mrs. Bieber” people are also single); it’s about challenging the idea that women should/have to change their name after getting married.
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@xFatallyFlawed@xanga - ”miss” implies an unmarried woman. “ms” means “my marital status is none of your damn business.”
i made my xanga name about 8 years ago and didn’t think much of it. if i could go back, i’d change it to “ms.” it irks me how women are defined in society by their relationships to men.
anyhoo, i think i’m getting one of those shirts!
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@Celtic_haven@xanga - i disagree. you assume that the women who wear these shirts are single and are unhappy about it. the shirt is not to proclaim “i’m single.” it’s to say that, when and if i should get married, i am still ms. [the name i was given]. i don’t change my identity (legal or otherwise) because of my relationship. the whole maiden name concept bothers me because it implies women have two identities – a maiden, virginal one defined by their fathers and a married one defined by their husbands. men just have one name and identity, and i think that’s what we all should have. i can’t help that i was born with my dad’s last name (i would have really preferred one which nods at maternal lineage, too), but i don’t change who i am upon having a legal relationship with another man.
so the statement isn’t “i’m single” (you’re right, who cares about that?). it’s a societal critique which says, “i won’t be defined as just someone’s wife.”
dahlia / 2103 posts
I doubt that anyone who would wear a “Future Mrs. Bieber” or “Future Mrs. Timberlake” t-shirt puts that much thought into it…but therein lies the problem. It’s an idea that is sort of thrown at us in all kinds of subtle ways whether we realize it or not. I’m getting married in the next year and a half, but I haven’t decided what to do about my name. I’ll probably take his name because A) I like it and it sounds good with my first name, and B) I love him, he loves me, and both of us know we are not defined by the other and that a change in terminology doesn’t change identity. He has said he doesn’t care whether I change my name or not, so I’ll just stew about it for a year or so and decide
And I’ll probably use “Ms.” a lot instead of Mrs. because I do think it’s none of most people’s business what my marital status is.
daisy / 506 posts
@juliamegan@xanga - I’m in the same boat as you. My dad had only one sister who changed her name after getting hitched and then he had two daughters. My sister changed her name to her husband’s. When my boyfriend and I eventually tie the knot, I plan to keep my last name.
I think keeping your name can also deal with professional stuff. As a writer, it would be unwise for me to change my last name because if a prospective employer were to Google “Beca Tanner” instead of “Beca Grimm,” they’d find a whole lot less clips. Same goes for other careers relying on building upon your name, I’m sure.
daisy / 506 posts
But none of that is to say I don’t agree with changing your last name. It’s a personal decision for which I judge no one.
What do you all think about guys changing THEIR last names? I wonder how often that actually happens.
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I can’t help but think that this is just a big deal out of nothing. Those tee shirts are just typical fan girl items; girls clawing over the hottest new celebrity. I don’t think this big proposed underlying message is really a big deal. God you all sound like there’s a huge conspiracy afoot.
it’s a t shirt. Say it with me… it’s a T SHIRT.
orchid / 176 posts
@beca - you can see how my original name was unsearchable…and so is this name. Not mad at it. Haha.
rose / 786 posts
@xFatallyFlawed@xanga - Usually, when you get married, at the end of the ceremony when the new married couple are announced as a married couple, it’s usually done as so: “Introducing Mr. and Mrs. John Doe.”
dahlia / 2747 posts
what an expensive tshirt… i could make that with sharpie.
magnolia / 1369 posts
it’s really not that serious, i don’t need to wear this shirt to let myself [ or anyone else ] know that i can think on my own and don’t need a man to define me .
daffodil / 1607 posts
@XoAsianBabioX@xanga - HAHAHA
on the subject of the post…
I’m keeping my last name especially if I’m getting my phd.
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I LOVE the shirt. Where can I get one?!
I am definitely about keeping my own last name because it’s only my sister and I. Actually, we both love our names that we want to keep it.
I agree with @swtaznxtc90@xanga. I want to get my PhD as well. I want it in English and be a best-selling author. I certainly DO NOT WANT any other name on any of those except my given name.
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Girls really do set too much stock on Love and Romance in general
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@beca - I have actually met a few guys who have expressed they wanted to take their future wife’s last name, because they don’t have a good or any relationship with their father.
At the end of the day, you are choosing between your dad’s last name and your husband’s last name.
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I’ll totally change my last name. I think doing that and how that’s how it’s been done is badass and I’m excited to do it. I also like the “Future Mrs. ALEXANDER SEXGAARD” because I am a fan of some sexy ass actors. And I feel like me saying that and being obnoxious like that is kind of sexist and stuff to dudes right? So how is that anti-feminist?
I dunno. I think the above Tshirt idea is ok. But I wouldn’t buy it. But I don’t own any Future Mrs. Del Toro shirts either. I just think those guys are sexy.
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I just bought the “Get over your need for male validation” shirt. BEST PURCHASE EVER.
rose / 903 posts
I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Men have the choice to take their wife’s last name if they want to. But just like a woman wears an engagement ring, and a man doesn’t, it’s tradition. If you don’t like the tradition, fine. If changing your last name is going to affect how you feel about your independence, it seems a little dramatic. I’m going to take my husband’s last name because I want to… because we will be JOINED by marriage. While I do believe a lot of women (girls) are too invested in the “romance” of weddings and men in general, I don’t find that I identify myself by my relationship. Also, my last name is not my identity. But yes, I think t-shirts that advertise your relationship are stupid. Especially celebrity last names – those shirts are plain stupid and for 12 year olds.
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I got married recently, and I didn’t change my last name. It seems like I’m constantly being questioned as to why I didn’t change my last name, yet my husband doesn’t. I understand why, but it sucks. I also didn’t want a wedding ring. It seems pointless and like a waste of money. I don’t need a ring to prove I’m married. I get tons of questions about that, but once again, no one expects my husband to wear a wedding ring.
I never thought I’d have a problem with changing my last name, but once the idea of marriage came up, I started to feel uneasy. I’ve been Casey Lastnamehere my whole life. That’s who I am. If my husband and I have children, then we’ll hyphenate for the sake of the children, otherwise we both want to keep our names.
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My last name is weird and nobody can ever spell or pronounce it correctly. It doesn’t even show up on a list of over 50.000 surnames, I’m on the first page of Google when I search my last name.So I dunno, I kinda like the uniqueness, but I often wonder if, someday, it would be cool to have a more “normal” last name. Or just not have to correct people all the time. :/