I’m having a serious mid-college crisis. As a philosophy and Spanish double major, with a French minor, I love my fields of study. I finished all of my GEs, so I’m taking only those classes relevant to my chosen specializations.
I have also always known that I wanted to go to law school after graduation. But recently, I’ve been considering a dual JD/PsyD program, which would basically train me as a psychologist and a lawyer. This would allow me to better examine psychological issues underlying many legal issues.
But these programs are very difficult to get into, and my only psych class ended in a C+ (it was a bad year for me, for personal reasons – not a measure of my capabilities), which doesn’t recommend me well to such a competitive program.
So I’ve been considering swapping my Spanish major and French minor for a B.A. in psych. I’m a little nervous about the math involved, as I’m not a math person by any means, but I am deeply interested in the more social aspects of psychology.
I have about six weeks until course scheduling, so I have to decide by then. I can still graduate on time, even if I switch. And I still plan on keeping my philosophy major, without a doubt.
Have any of you ever had mid-college crises? How did you deal with them? What did you do? Should I switch?
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Everyone has had this crisis. You are done with high school and all of a sudden LIFE hits you right on the nose. OHmygod, who am I? Why am I here? Who should I become? What does it all mean? Yeah, not fun when you’re going through it, but when you look back on it later, it’s a laugh.
rose / 948 posts
You can do it! Stay strong! : )
I’m a Math/Econ major and I tutor Philosophy to undergraduates because I’ve taken a few courses within it & have loved it.
peony / 2 posts
I would have to say that since you are trying to get into a highly competitive program, to go for the double major in Philosophy and Psych. You can get tutoring for the math if/when you need it (often free on campus at many schools) and the rest, as I’m sure you know, is just time management.
Spanish and French, while lovely and fun (trust me, I know, I took four languages while in college!) don’t really get you anywhere when competing against those who majored in what you want for an upper level degree, and you don’t want that to bite you in the butt later on.
I hope you make whatever decision makes you happy. Good luck and let us know what you chose!
daffodil / 1525 posts
Why are you majoring in spanish??? And the french minor??? Sorry I don’t intend that to come out bitchily.
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I agree with @michou83 , majoring in French or Spanish is great, but when you’re trying to get into law school………………..you get the point.
I’m only a sophomore, but I am also looking into law school through a psychology major (I had no idea they had such thing as a JD/Psych D program!). BUT, at least at my school….a B.A. in Psych is much different than a B.S. in Psych. For the Bachelor of Science in Psych you have a stronger concentration on, well, math and science. I haven’t heard of much focus on math/science for the B.A., which is what I’m doing. You might really want to check that out! Because there’s a huge difference. But I would recommend Psych and Philosophy. Those will definitely help you with law school. And you can always take language classes as electives.
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I highly recommend that you make the switch. Although universities may say that a psych major is not required to apply for the JD/PsyD program, I think it definitely helps to have the background. Also, I don’t think it’s a good idea to apply for doctoral level work in a field that you have little/no experience in (you never know, you might end up hating psych!). Finally, taking psych classes might help you to form connections with some of the professors in the psychology department at your university, which will be highly useful when it’s time to apply for graduate school as they can give you great advice and write you recommendation letters.
Good luck!
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Frankly, you are just replacing a useless major with another useless major. I was in this same situation, which prompted me to add a third major in business and a minor in computer science.
Fortunately, law schools are not particular about your undergraduate major. If you do not feel that you will excel in psychology, then do not pursue it. Stick to what you are good at and make the grades and LSAT score necessary for law school alone. The JD will be valuable enough.
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I would definitely change to the Psychology classes. I’m currently a graduate student in a Mental Health Counseling program, and I find that my degree in psychology helps immensely and the few students who do not have a similar degree have to put in a lot more work. So I would guess that having a background in the subject will definitely help if you pursue the dual degree.
Best wishes!
And if the decision has come down to the math issue, I would go talk to a psychology faculty member and ask about the student feedback on the statistics, research, and other math related classes. You can ask them for recommendations about what to do in your situation and what you should do if you change majors and find yourself struggling.
Finally, if you’ve already taken some of the language courses, you will still have those skills if you refresh every so often. It’s not like it will immediately leave your brain when you change
Don’t forget that if your choosing between two things you like, you will choose the right one and everything will work itself out from there
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there isn’t much math in psych except for biostats. i know it seems daunting when you’re in the middle of everything, but look on the bright side – you are halfway done!
this is where you have to decide between taking the major(s) you like vs. getting into the grad program you want. personally, i would do what it takes to get into grad school (since you’ve decided that this will be your future). if you can’t handle that many majors/minors, pare it down to where you can excel in the classes you take. schools won’t care that you have 2 majors and a minor if your GPA is weak. oh yeah, do well on your LSAT.
another thing of note… dual degree programs take a long time. make sure you can make that commitment. (i’ve got 7 years left in mine. O.O)
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All I’m going to say is I switched twice and I’m in my sixth year of college. One more to go. Going to be in debt forever, all my friends have moved on, and I’m older than everyone. But I’m happy with where I am now. In the end I’m glad I switched.
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I have had an entire college crisis
I’m a junior right now, and currently majoring in Film and Math, but am thinking about switching to Film and Computer Science. I would graduate much later, but I might take the risk since I would have better job opportunities with the latter.
I’ve changed my major from Math to English to Advertising and English to Film and Biology/Pre-med to Film and Math. Even more if you don’t count official changes… haha
It’s kind of terrible, and I’m at the point where I need to just stick it out and graduate. But I just like so many things. Ugh.
However, my GPA is still pretty good so I don’t feel like I’m harming myself too badly. I just need to keep it up and stop changing my damn mind.
What year are you?
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If you are deciding to go into law school, I heard its best to choose a undergrad major that you know you will excel in, because it will reflect your high gpa when you apply for law school.
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I agree with gradventerous. Definitely switch majors. It is better to switch and see if you like what you are doing early in your career than to wait until you on track to a professional degree to discover you hate it. Although, I do agree that it is better to have some knowledge of a field when going to graduate school than to enter it completely cold, but I will be getting my PhD in science education without taking a single education course as an undergraduate. It is possible to do it.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
Make the switch. Romance language majors/minors, and heaven forbid philosophy, are useless (in terms of WORK and MONEY… I know they “expand your mind” or whatever).
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Spanish looks more appealing than the norm psychology/philosophy route to me.. unless your native language is Spanish.
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If you still want it, why not re-take the psych class?
sunflower / 355 posts
Do it, if you take more psych classes and do well in them, the ONE C won’t look terrible. Also, psychology has very little math involved as an undergrad. All I had to take was a basic stats and research design class. If you do some research or just end up pursuing the research in psychology, you’ll need to know statistics.. but it’s not like you won’t get a chance to learn or something. Everyone starts it out as beginners.
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The math in psych courses is actually quite easy. You won’t have a problem with it (and this coming from someone who SUCKS at math).
Or you could do what I did (I also had a rough year one year) and I ended up staying in undergrad an additional year to retake some classes and raise my GPA. I wouldn’t trade that experience for the world. It was totally worth it! <3
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There’s math required for a Psychology degree?
rose / 791 posts
My best friends all did Psychology and honestly, the maths involved isn’t that hard at all. If you want to make the switch – do it! You’re the only one who has to live with the decision,so it’s completely up to you – do what will make YOU happy.
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I think you should switch, you could do it ! I mean it’s great that you did Frnech/Spanish, but I think in the end Psych would help you more and get your farther..
Good luck !!!
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i switched recently from an English major to a Pre-Nursing major. Kind of feels like a cop-out, as writing is the only thing I’ve ever been moderately good at, however I’m more confident I can make a good living as a nurse and also be able to fulfill some primitive need to nurture that I have.
Be true to yourself as best you can and it’ll sort itself out in the long run.
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… Why are you in so many programs if you’re looking into Law, which has no undergrad major “norm” or “requirement”? That just baffles me… but I suppose if it floats your boat. Go with whatever you like most and whatever is also most logical (: It needs to be a mix.
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One C will not look terrible and I mean they understand that things do happen. I believe that you should go for the Psych major because it will probably help you out the most. I personally am a psych major and I will be graduating in the spring. Its a great field of study and if you find that you like it it just seems to come easier. Also another idea is talk it over with a counselor at school because they are there for this exact reason. Anyway direction you choose is a good one it would just be which is best for you.
magnolia / 1066 posts
You’re way overdoing it. You don’t need two majors and a minor. You’re going to kill yourself with stress.
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don’t graduate college thinking…I wish I studied this.
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I’m gonna have to agree with @Cliffycliffz@xanga and say retake that psych class, and switch. having a feel for what you wanna do will be better than going all the way, and not knowing what it is you’re even getting into.
let us know what you pick!
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Getting a PsyD really limits you later on in life. You won’t be able to teach at a college level and you won’t have research as a backup if you cannot find a job. If you switch to psychology, I suggest you pursue a PhD.
If you are ONLY thinking about pursuing a PsyD to council and COUNCIL alone, then a PsyD is a good idea.
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If you’re already planning to go to law school, you should make it your goal to just get through your BA as quickly as possible. That means no switching majors. If you really want to do a psychology program, you can work on it later on, but for now, stay the course.
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i would suggest possibly overlooking all of your options… check any options concerning your career options… and if nothing echos w/ u, then change your major… it’ll take longer sure… but if your degree will lead you to your career that you love to do… it’s been said, “Do what you love and you’ll never have to work again.” Find a degree that will allow for this quote to be a reality in your life…
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Several.
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Nobody cares about double majors. Get rid of it. It isn’t impressive these days, does nothing for law school applications, and the fact that one of them is a foreign language is doubly unimpressive. As far as the C goes, I wouldn’t sweat that, most law schools (if they get down far enough to min/maxing GPAs, which is rare, most admission decisions are made before that becomes necessary) won’t be looking at specific classes anyways.
I’m not educated enough on your particular program selection to give really qualified advice, but here are my suggestions…
1) Learn Stats :: At least two undergraduate stats courses will work WONDERS in graduate school, especially if you struggle with math. At some point, you will be research-based (especially in psychology), and having a minimum stats background is 100% necessary. You’ll need grad-level stats at some point, and that’s not a course you want to walk into without knowing what an ANOVA test is, and when you’d use one.
2) Get in a Psych Lab :: If you are there as assistant, volunteer, or even just secretary, having lab experience on your resume looks fantastic to graduate schools. This will bump you ahead of a great number of candidates, regardless of GPA/major, and can get you in the door for an interview even if your LSAT/GRE aren’t at the top. 6 months to 1 year with a doctoral professor signing off would be ideal, especially if you can win a coveted letter of rec from an established experimental psychologist. [[I emphasize having labwork background because your thesis will be research based, even if you claim counseling as a field, AND because psych grad schools are FLOODED with applications of people with no more drive than "I want to help people". Having lab experience sets you apart from that crowd, and this is a huge boost to your admission chance.]]
3) Nail the LSAT/GRE :: Both these tests are relatively simple, and both can be studied for with minimum difficulty. But if you know you struggle with test-taking, sooner is better than later, especially for learning LSAT logic games, or preparing for the GRE essay. Looking at this blog entry, I’ll guess you write well enough to get a decent score there, but know that the essay is a component important to both programs. Just plan on taking each of these tests multiple times. They are the first things schools look at, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
With all that on your plate, my concrete suggestion would be to ditch your Spanish Major (keep it as a Minor if you already have the 18 hours), and pick up a minor in Psych. French is largely irrelevant (unless you happen to live in Quebec, in which case, rock on), but a minor in Psych and the above mentioned research experience shows a grad school that you have serious interest, and not just a desire for one more resume check.
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Make the switch! Just get math help if you really need it or practice more.
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im a psych and spanish double major with a health sci minor
i was a little apprehensive about my psych major due to the math as well but i have been told they arent too intensive so i think it will be worth it because psych is really interesting to me! best of luck with everything!!
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@BimmerPhile@xanga - surprisingly there are some math required for psyc
You need to take some sortda stats course.
Some girl mention biostat / data analysis / method research
For psyc major – you need to know how to conduct research, collect data, incorporate and understand the data and turn them into charts/ graph.
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Hmm.. well if you do switch to a psych/philosophy major, could you make spanish another minor(if you’re far enough in coursework?)
I know you’d have two majors and two minors, but hey if it looks good
But if you can still switch and you know you’d like the major, go for it!
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I’ve had them too.
sit down, relax. now think.
can you see yourself being a lawyer? can you see yourself being a psychologist? are there other ways you can learn spanish and french effectively without having to major/minor in them? what were you planning on doing with spanish and french?
you can sign up for classes without having to switch your major, and there’s an add drop period in the beginning of next semester so you can go to the classes, look at the syllabus and see if its what you really want.
good luck!