She’s endlessly annoying. She’s the forgetful friend. The tired friend. The phone-killing friend. The flake friend. We all know her and we’ve all been her, but how’s a girl to deal with the perma-flake friend?
My parents raised me to be a full-blown, honorable commitmentphile. I admit my own guilt in occasionally cancelling on a play-date, but generally, I stick to my plans as if they were carved in stone. And why? Because I feel like consistently bailing on friends shows a lack of respect and consideration. But then again, I know not everyone feels this and way and bailing on plans isn’t always rooted in this theory. A friend could cancel consistently for a variety of reasons. Maybe she really does get busy or fall asleep narcoleptic-style. Or maybe it’s a bigger issue. She could be dealing with relationship, financial or other personal problems, zapping her bankrupt of the energy or funds to meet up.
I try to keep this in mind when a friend turns flakey. At the moment, one in NY revealed herself as a secret perma-flake. It’s a sad conclusion on which to arrive but after forgetting, not calling about and straight-up neglecting plans we made together–it’s the only one I could accept. And although I feel frustrated with her behavior, I recognize that the real reason behind it likely has nothing to do with me.
Instead, with these wishy-washy type of buds, I tend to instate what I call the renewable one-time-tolerance flake policy. If a friend stood me up once, I’d still hit him or her up to hang again. But if that happened twice–and within a short window of time–I’d stop calling for a spell. After a month or so, I’ll likely try initiating another date. And should this friend first approach me for some hangage, I’ll always accept if I’m free. However, I don’t hold my breath that those plans hold up either. It’s not holding a grudge, it’s changing your expectations and lowering your dependence.
What I feel like the first thing to realize is that the reason you are annoyed about someone flaking is because you like them. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t mind skimping time spent with them, or worse–you’d feel relieved that they didn’t show. So it might be best to accept the fact that this person has his or her faults in sticking to their word. This might not be the friend you invite as your plus one to Friday’s bangin’ concert or the first person with which you expect to gush something big happening in your life. But that doesn’t mean that this friend can’t be fun when the cards are stacked just right.
Do you have a friend who flakes and if so, how do you deal with it? Are you a flake friend yourself?
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Yeah, if they consistently “can’t make it,” i’d just stop bothering them. Communication goes both ways right? If they really wanna hang, they know how to get me. *shrugs*
daisy / 617 posts
I’m the flake friend, but so is my best friend. We’re both just super busy right now and we never have time for one another. However, Skype is magnificent for such predicaments as this.
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It’s annoying having a flakey friend but no lie, I’m a flake too. Not to the degree as most, but I have & do flake on occasion. The permaflake friend I had… I just don’t bother with her anymore
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I turn into the flake friend during the winter–except I don’t really make plans and break them, I just don’t make them. I get really ridiculously sickly/anemic/mono-comes-back. It’s just generally better if I focus on going to class and not passing out.
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I don’t keep them on my close buddies list but I do have a few flakes on my mental friends list.
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There’s a few guys in my life that are like this – they’re sort of friends, sort of not, but they’re entirely flakey. I usually just let them get in contact with me and live my life otherwise because they’re inconsequential in the long run. What does annoy me to no end is that they do expect me to drop everything for them when they come calling. I’ll never understand why they expect me to always fit them into my schedule immediately when I never fit into theirs unless it’s convenient.
daffodil / 1525 posts
I’m pretty sure it’s “flaky” and everyone else keeps making the same mistake in the comments and I’m dying.
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I have seasonal friends or a new batch of friends every few months or sometimes longer depending on how much we can tolerate each other. if one person flakes or is giving signs that he/she does not like to be invited, then I’ll get the hint and no longer invite the person. I’ll just invite someone else. my work requires social interaction, so it is also in my personality to easily befriend new people, so it works for me that I can find someone else, who will seem more enthusiastic to hang out. no use moping over it. each situation is different, so this is just my view. if I act like it didn’t bother me and as if the person isn’t that important, then they usually come around and start initiating or wonder why I haven’t called them out like I used to. spoiling them with attention or making them feel like they exist sometimes backfires and they become a snob-not always the case, maybe they just didn’t feel like going anywhere, but then just don’t agree to plans and say they aren’t sure or have common courtesy to call if something comes up and they can’t attend. those long time best friends is another story. I have a best friend but we’re long distance and we can’t hang out often, just talk and I’m fine with just talking.
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The only time it bothers me is when I reject plans because I already have ones; then they’re broken an hour before it’s time. Thanks, now I’m rewiring my plans at 9pm on a Friday night, etc. When THAT happens CONSISTENTLY… I stop making much effort.
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I have a friend who flakes. We made plans 2 weeks ago. Started texting each other a few days before and made plans to hang out. Then on the day of, she said she’s watching the football game. I was playing basketball and said I’ll be right over after I shower. She’s totally fine with that and knew before-hand that I was playing ball. Then after I showered, she texted me saying how pissed she was and that she was leaving to go home (from her bf’s place). I was like WTF, and thinking to myself that she would cancel plans with me just because her team lost and she’s taking it that personally. She flaked out another time because she was too tired and didn’t want to hang out at all the entire day. We’ve been friends for like 5 years now and I want to stay friends with her, but it gets hard when she’s being all bi-polar.
daisy / 639 posts
I was the flake to one of my best friends but because she acted like a clingy boyfriend to me and she was literally impossible to talk to about it. I eventually stopped talking to her so it’s not a problem anymore, though.
I’ve had other friends that have flaked on me constantly for stupid reasons, and the above story helped me deal with the hurt from those – I stopped talking to them and removed them as a friend on each website we shared, and deleted their phone number. I give them many chances and if they prove to me they don’t want to bother with me, I give them their wish
not dramatically, I just stop trying.
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I had one friend who started constantly doing that to me awhile ago. On New Year’s Eve 2008/2009 he texted me to tell me he wasn’t coming to my party after all, and that was the last communication I had with him. I just got fed up and never spoke to him again. I have plenty of friends who WANT to spend time with me, why waste energy on someone who obviously doesn’t?
magnolia / 1357 posts
I think I’m the flake friend in this case… when my friends want to get together during the week, it is pretty much impossible for me to make it, as I have to juggle between meetings, classes, my internship, etc. However, they understand that when I cannot make it, it is because I really did get overworked and cannot spare even a couple of minutes.
But then again, when plans are made in advance I try my damn hardest to keep those hours free for my friend. If it’s a get-together at night, it’s even better for me… those I never miss.
I can understand when someone is really just too busy to hang out, but I also know when someone simply says “yes” to shut me up and then hope I won’t want to call again…
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I have definitely been the flakey friend in the past. I have struggled with a panic disorder and HUUUGE anxiety issues. It wasn’t that I didn’t like the people I made plans with, in fact when I made the plans I genuinely looked forward to them. But as the day of hanging got closer, the more anxious I would become. For whatever reason I put waaay too much pressure on myself just for those plans and in the end I couldn’t do it.
I used to lie about it and make up excuses…but I realized I would have to be honest with the ones that stuck around and tell them how hard it was for me to leave my house. I’ve been really lucky to have such understanding friends.
And now I go out all the time and am never flakey! woooo
ranunculus / 3457 posts
I hate “friends” who expect me to have no priorities except hanging out and get pissed whenever i can’t go out.
daffodil / 1525 posts
@missmerlot@xanga - THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH DESCRIBES ME SO BADLY. how do you fix it?
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YES! I hate flakers
especially when you clear your calender for them and they bail last minute! I am one not to bail b/c 1. I feel too guilty 2. that’s being a shitty friend. If a friend is being flaky, i consider them in the acquittance pile and maybe hit them up once in a while.
rose / 791 posts
I can be flaky, but I will never cancel solid plans. If a friend says “Lets hang out next week”, I might say yes originally, and then cancel when they ask for a specific time/date, but if I’ve arranged to do something on a certain day/at a certain time, I’ll turn up unless I either a) have to be work or b) am really sick.
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I don’t have many friends for this reason. Most of my friends are men, gay and straight. I don’t know why but, when it comes to hanging out and doing whatever, guys are more reliable than women and it’s hard to find responsible women where I live.
Even the ones over 40 tend to be flakes.
rose / 903 posts
Most of my friends are “flake friends” but I think it’s only because we are older now and have a lot more going on in our lives. Some things, like saving money, are just more important than girls’ night out sometimes. I understand that. I can only have dinner with a friend one or two nights a week because I don’t have the money to be doing that all the time. I also have a boyfriend that I like to see a lot (before he moves 9 hours away in Jan.) and parents that live in town. I have a full time job and am taking a real estate class. As you get older, you don’t have as much time to spend on friendships, but if they are true friends, you will always be able to call on them.
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@annamariuhh@xanga - It seems like it takes forever. Honestly, to begin with, you just have to remember that you don’t have to say yes to a plan immediately. Its really hard not to though. Especially if you’re a people pleaser. The good friends will stick by you and help you through it. Just be honest with them when they’re trying to plan something and let them know that you have really bad anxiety and you don’t know how you’ll be on that day. So then they wont get their hopes up, but they will appreciate it when you do go out so much more. After a while going out doesn’t seem like such a big deal.
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all of my friends are pretty much flakey. we make plans and they decide to change them at the last minute, ALL THE TIME. i’m like, yall have fun with that, i’m doing my own thing. if u wanna come, fine, but i’m not waiting around for you.
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ok first off sexist “how’s a girl to deal with the perma-flake friend?” Guys deal with it too you’re sexist.
Also everyone is busy they have their priorities. If someone is flaky I ask, Look if you dont want to be my friend let me know so i dont look like an idiot” simple as that
make people matter rather than yourself. my friend is EXTREMELY busy and just because i havent talked to her in 3 months doesnt mean she is flaky or she has forgotten me.
she tells me and apoligizes when things are going on…..true friends dont bail on you even Hannah Montana Taught that 6 years ago….so just make people matter.
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I tend to be really good with committing to plans. The other day I was set to head to school and meet my friends later on to go shopping for a present for another friend’s birthday. Unfortunately, I badly sprained my ankle just as I got off the bus. I felt really bad because they all intended to go Friday but rescheduled it to Thursday because I’m normally busy on Fridays. I know I couldn’t exactly help spraining my ankle but I felt bad for not being able to make it. Then again I wouldn’t be much use hobbling around a shopping center.
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I’ve always been one of those people who drop everything at the call of a friend, emergency or no. However, the door hasn’t swung both ways at all in my friendships. Any event in my life that I thought my friends—or should I just say friend, non-plural?—would be interested in, they were promptly invited, but it never mattered what it was, I would get stood up.
I still loved my friend(s) to pieces, but I will be the first to admit that my heart went a little cold, and those invitations weren’t extended anymore. Now that we’re living close to 1400 miles away, the friend I’ve known since second grade and did 90% of the “flakes” has the time, but I’m no longer there. She profusely apologizes for not being there when we were younger and on occasions I truly needed her, and I consider myself lucky to have special friends, her included. Yay Skype!
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I am always the flake friend. Always. My friends just get used to it. The ones who dont like it stop being my friends and the real friends stick around.
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I am definitely a flake friend but I call people when I cancel and I cancel when I wake up on the wrong side of the bed. If I am in a bad mood before I go somewhere or meet up with someone it will not be a fun time for anyone involved, it goes from bad to worse real quick the more I am around with people so I flake out to spare people any drama and to recharge on my own.
orchid / 129 posts
I hate that shit. :/
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i’m a perma-flake
noo