As the autumn equinox creeps up, it’s fun to look for excuses to sneak the seasonal flav fav pumpkin into all sorts of jazz. Starbucks’ Pumpkin Spice Latte unarguably reigns supreme (have you checked out your Facebook’s feed recently?). But does this fallish hot beverage come with an unlisted topping of frilly femininity?
Starbucks Critique posed the question recently: “Should a guy be embarrassed to order a Pumpkin Spice Latte?” So is a dude afflicted with PSL cravings looked at the same as if he thought glitter eye-shadow might be a fun twist to his Friday night? Or if he lingered in the “Just For Fun” section in Hallmark for over five minutes? The opinionated comments following the SC piece were divided.
“No. Getting a soy, no whip PSL will get your man card revoked,” one reader remarked. “Otherwise, no problem.”
Another reader commented on the pride (or lack thereof) a man might have in ordering one. “I have noticed when men order a fru fru [sic] drink, they are more likely to lower their voice. Now, if they are ordering extra shots, everyone in the store hears them.”
I feel like a shameless sweet tooth doesn’t necessarily take a scoop out of one’s masculinity. My boyfriend publicly takes his coffee with three sugars but has no problem with heavy lifting and horsing down a big steak. What would the manly beverage equivalent be for ladies? A red-eye? Beer from the can?
Would you find a guy less macho if he took up an ostentatious PSL habit? [via Gawker]
daffodil / 1601 posts
No, they’re fucking delicious. (Better from places other than Starbucks though). Why are tasty things for girls only? My boyfriend gets a Dragon Berry and Sprite at the bar and I’m perfectly fine with it; it’s delicious. Why don’t we take cookies and candy from them too? Would you bat an eye if a dude ate a piece of pumpkin pie? No. It’s the same thing but in drink form.
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Err…no? Pumpkin spice lattes are my favorite Sbux drink. If he loves ‘em too, then that’s just one more reason for me to love him!
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I wouldn’t think less of a guy if that’s the kind of beverage he wanted. Why can’t a man order what he wants simply because he likes it? Jeez, I will never understand why certain people read into something that’s not even there.
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My boyfriend orders PSL’s all the time. Men can like pumpkin-flavored stuff too?..
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it’s just a drink chill out.
next thing you know, man cannot wear pink.
news flash. real man wear pink
orchid / 184 posts
WOW! And MY post was called stupid? Seriously?!
This is incredibly dumb……let the guy order whatever the hell he wants, no matter what iI or anyone else thinks. 
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Stay the hell away from my PSL. I WILL throw it on your face, and then demand you pay for another PSL before you attend to your second-degree burns.
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This is the most ridiculous post on here haha, that’s like saying a guy can’t have pancakes at breakfast because they’re sweet! More power to the guys who don’t care what their starbucks order is
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What!?
These things are delicious.
But for the record, Chai is where it’s at.
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Let’s take gender out of beverages. Drink what you enjoy!
dahlia / 2747 posts
does it matter…?
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I’m PSLing, guys.
Why is everything abbreviated? First it was NSFW now it’s PSL. What’s next WMFLW? (that’s white mocha frappucino light whip, fyi!)
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Some day, I want to go to a bar and beat the ever loving snot out of the biggest douchebag there. Then I’ll order an entire pint of half-and-half.
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@shes_lump@xanga - it’s the age of internet speak!
this is a non issue, in my opinion. i see nothing wrong with guys ordering girly drinks! not that pumkin spice latte is girly. it’s a normal fall flavor,.
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OMG I WANT ONE RIGHT NOW. and no its not unmanly
orchid / 141 posts
@galadrielspitcher@xanga - One of my favorite parts of fall is the Pumpkin Spice drinks you can get, particularly the fraps. I love the cold stuff.
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It’s entirely manly to be secure enough to order WHATEVER THE HELL you want, regardless as to whether people are going to question your masculinity or not.
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I work at Starbucks and as far as I can tell, I am the only one who thinks it’s the most disgusting drink we have ever created.
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Actually, technically it’s WMFL for White Mocha Frappaccino Light, and Light Whip is LTWC in the custom box above it.
@shes_lump@xanga -
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Nope. Drink whatever you want, man. I love confidence and a sense of adventure not strict regulation because it’s “manly”. Doing anything because we have to or it adheres to a set standard is nutsy and boring.
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pssssh, seriously? lol. no! i think that the fact that such labels as “fru fru” drinks exist is crazy. you cant be down on someone because they order something tasty! t’s called being human, having a tounge that appreciates deliciousness. =) be it =fru fru= alcoholic or coffee drinks, its all good.
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@AffinityInUnderstanding@xanga - hahahhh that’s great!
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@Coffee_Kaioken@xanga - i’ve never tried it as a frapp before! now i want too ^^
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No, that’s dumb. PSL-type things are awesome, especially in fall. What’s unmanly is for a dude to worry about whether or not its unmanly to consume something he likes.
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Haha, I couldn’t care less about what my guy drinks. If you’re honestly going to judge people based on such trivial things, then you’re going to have a very difficult time finding somebody to be with! If he treats me well, makes me happy, and is happy to be with me, he can order all the “girly” drinks he wants!
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No…? It’s just a drink.
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I’d be turned on if my boyfriend ordered that.
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Who the fuck cares if it’s “manly” or not?! If you have a dick and you like a pumpkin spice latte, enjoy your fucking pumpkin spice latte! Your dick is still going to be there!
FUCK the gender binary!
I’m gonna go dragon-kick a baby.
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I don’t care about non-alcoholic drinks.
However I will admit that when I hear guys order Midori Sours or appletinis for themselves, I raise my eyebrows a bit. To be fair though, I do the same thing when I see a girl order Wild Turkey or Black Label and then take it straight. If there’s no ice, it’s even more impressive.
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What? Of course its not unmanly or manly. It’s coffee… honestly…
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You could say this about any Starbucks drink, really. They’re mostly drinks disguising coffee flavor with syrups, etc. So if you’re one to think plain coffee is manly, then Starbucks is effete. Apparently no one cares, though, so I’ll follow.
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God, people are dumb.
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A man can only keep his man card if he orders a Pumpkin Spice Latte while using a lighter to light his farts and bragging about how he once had to wrestle a bear to save his girlfriend when they were hiking in the woods.
Usually when I order a Venti Soy Caramel Macchiato almost every day of my life, I wonder if people are thinking, “How does he drink 500 calories every day and still maintain his outstanding physique. What is his secret?”
Your post should be one datingish, not lovelyish.
rose / 903 posts
Um no… Pumpkin Spice Lattes are amazing.
hydrangea / 71 posts
Considering it’s The best drink right now, go for it while it’s in season!!! (Who cares if it’s manly?)
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With this logic I guess it’s unmanly for my boyfriend to bake me cheesecakes too….
daisy / 506 posts
@democrab@xanga - I like your style.
dahlia / 2103 posts
I never thought about sugary coffee drinks as being unmanly. But perhaps that’s because my fiance, who drives a truck and lives in Longhorns t-shirts and goes nuts over power tools, drinks his coffee with WAY more crap in it than mine. He basically pours out an island of powder creamer and a pile of sugar on the top. If we go to a restaurant, he usually has to take sugar and creamer packets from a neighboring table because he uses all the ones at our table.
sunflower / 352 posts
OMG, I love pumpkin spice lattes, they’re the bestttttt.
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I order red eyes whenever I have a long day of work ahead of me, no creme no sugar. It ruins the flavor of the coffee, and something about the creme and sugar in it makes me queasy anyways. Soy caramel machiatos are the only other drink I buy there. Never tried a pumpkin spice latte.
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I don’t really give a fuck. PSL’s are godlike.
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Life’s too short to care too much about what others think about something, especially something so silly as a drink at Starbucks. Order what you (men AND women) want, and enjoy it. It’s not like it’s garnished with a tiny paper umbrella….
rose / 980 posts
Depends on how big his muscles are.
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Absolutely not. There’s nothing wrong with having good, seasonal taste. =)
On a different, but related note, I’ve been craving me some pumpkin spiced everything!
peony / 4 posts
You’d think people would get over these pre-conceived notions about what is appropriate for each gender. We want gender equality? We want to promote acceptance of homosexuality and those who break gender roles? Than maybe we should stop making stupid rules about who can do what when in order to keep their “masculinity” or “femininity”.
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I love going to coffee places with my SO. He tries ordering hot chocolate because he doesn’t like coffee, and I get espresso and his drink is frillier than mine XD hahaha
sunflower / 281 posts
I don’t think so. My guy loves anything pumpkin so I bet he’d get it
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@justjase@xanga - exactly. the only thing that makes people question a dude’s manliness is when he questions it…the road goes both ways, it’s why self conscious are less attractive…because they believe they’re unattractive.
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Starbucks. Gross.
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um, it’s a fucking beverage.
hydrangea / 88 posts
my fiance is 6ft 2 and very Italian, loves his polo t-shirts and when we’re in starbucks, he has no problem saying in his “normal” room voice that he’d like a grande, no foam, skim milk CINNAMON DOLCE LATTE or a PSL. It’s COFFEE people, it has NO relation to a man’s pride or lack there of, and I think people are way too analyzing to what others (baristas, they are there to make your coffee!!) would say about you. WHO CARES?
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Caribou coffee PSLs are the freakin’ best. I’ll have to try out the Starbucks.
Also, no, ordering such things says nothing about manliness.
*flexes*
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I don’t see what masculinity has to do with enjoying things that taste good. I think the man who wouldn’t drink one because he’s afraid for his image is the one who needs to grow a pair.
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so what if a guy likes his pumpkin spice?
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When I was with my friend I ordered first and got a pumpkin latte. He ordered after me and got the same thing, but he didnt actually say “Can i get a pumpkin latte?”, he just said i’ll take the same thing. I don’t think it really mattered. He loved it.
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No, it’s unmanly for him to order this http://bartman905.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/brochure1.jpg