Lovelyish

thats stupid to disrespect someone whose made changes to their apperance.

This is kind of stupid.  Are you going to question everyone you see that has had plastic surgery so you can figure out if you’re going to respect them or not?  How about you get to know someone first.

Exactly! If it was for purely superficial reasons, I don’t know why I’d even want to take all the risks involved. Just doesn’t seem worth it, to me. 

I agree with you. I just think it’s unnecessary risk. And I used to want to get my eyelids done, but I’ve grown into loving the way I look.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - why? give me one good reason why i should respect someone who has plastic in them when they don’t need it.

i’m with you. getting doctored up when you don’t need to is bullshit.

@HeLLo_Bianca@xanga - agreed

@reloadthemetal@xanga -  You should respect them for the person they are, not for one choice they made about their own appearance, I think is the point.  If you found out Einstein had plastic surgery, I’d hope you could still respect him. 

Well, I don’t think what she is saying is stupid. Maybe I don’t
“disrespect” (choice of words) someone if they had plastic surgery for
superficial reasons, but I definitely look at them differently. To me, I feel sad for them. Doing so tells me they are not happy with what they
are given and are not comfortable in their own skin. It tells me they
don’t love themselves enough. They think that fixing how they look on
the outside can repair how they feel on the inside. 

@Eglariel@xanga - the plastic surgery speaks as to who they are. it says, “i was put in this person because they don’t like how they look without me. nevermind that they’re accomplished and whatever, they needed me to look good!” doesn’t that sound incredibly stupid to you?

I had to inhale steroids in my nose as a kid, and it made my breathing impossible through my nose, so my surgery was technically for that.  I’d be lying if I said that the appearance wasn’t nice, though.  My nose had grown a ton, and I didn’t look like my mother anymore like I used to.  I know you should be “stong and accepting” blah blah, but looking good DOES increase my confidence.  Literally none of my friends noticed that my nose was different, so it wasn’t anything drastic, they just thought I looked different, like a new haircut.  I’ve also had jaw surgery that resulted in my jawline looking different, even though that was not desired at all!

I don’t judge people for getting a tweak.  Maybe changing your whole appearance is a bit much for me, but if you want to change your nose/chin/whatever, to me it’s not that different of a concept than changing your hair, or putting on makeup as far as “accepting your look”.  I think taking on the medical risk is silly, and just to put yourself through that much pain!!!!!  I could hardly handle the pain, and I can’t imagine volunteering for that!  But I wouldn’t disrespect people if they chose it!

Judging people for changing their appearance is still judging them for their appearance.  There are much more important things to me,  But yeah, if you want to break it off with somebody because you find out that they had plastic surgery, you have the right to do so. 

So, if you get to know a person, respect them, and then find out that they’ve had plastic surgery prior to ever meeting you, do you lose that respect you had for them?  Judging someone for having cosmetic surgery is shallow.  It’s like judging someone for getting a tattoo or having body piercings.  It’s a person’s choice what they do to their body.  They shouldn’t have to justify it to anyone.

well aren’t you just miss shallow. maybe if everyone respected everyone then we wouldn’t have people feeling bad enough to want to modify themselves. i think it’s your body, you do what you want

@reloadthemetal@xanga -  Haha, we’re allowed to disagree!    Personally, I would judge somebody more for drinking a lot than finding out that they had plastic surgery.  But if it’s a big deal to you, it’s a big deal to you!  We all have things that matter to us, and we can’t really help that!

@Eglariel@xanga - true

@shinoseishi@xanga - if it’s obvious that the person didn’t need the surgery, then hell yeah, i’m gonna lose respect for them.

I support plastic surgery for Barbie/Ken dolls and their kind because… really, is there any other way to remove plastic tumors?

I admit I don’t look highly on people that choose plastic surgery. They may have a perfect body then, but I don’t find them to be as beautiful anymore because it’s not them naturally. I do have to say it’s stupid to disrespect them over it though because you wouldn’t want someone to disrespect you so don’t be that way to them either. So I rather meet you halfway. 

You should judge someone based on their character, not if they’ve had plastic surgery or not… thats just irrelevant to what type of person they really are.

I work out to stay thin (and healthy, duh) because that is something I can take into my own hands. The second I have the money, I’m getting implants to go from a 32C to a 32D or DD. I feel no shame in it. God gave me nice boobs, I just want nicer ones.

I am a blond who wants to be a redhead, does that mean I’m not confident enough in myself to show my “true self”. No, it just means I want red hair. To me, its the same difference, just a little more permanent (if only the red hair could be more permanent…).

Uh.. “or a nose job for easier breathing purposes” ..what? I had that surgery last year. It doesn’t affect the outward appearance of your nose NOR is it called a “nose job.” It’s called septoplasty. It straightens the INSIDE of your nose. I certainly don’t count that as plastic surgery. Get your facts right, please.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - what about people who have orthodontic braces as children?  A lot of people don’t need to have straight teeth.  If it doesn’t interfere with their health, why get braces?  It’s a cosmetic reason.  Where do you draw the line about not respecting people who have cosmetic alterations?  Just procedures like plastic surgery?  What about people who get their make-up tattooed on?  Make-up in general is used to enhance appearances.  People don’t actually need make-up.  

@shinoseishi@xanga - crooked teeth can interfere with your health, actually. i had braces in middle school; if i hadn’t worn them, my teeth would have spaced out like a motherfucker, worsening my clinical depression, and who knows what other effects. and depending on the person, they can need makeup, because they look like shit without it or because they have a scar or disfigurement which they want to cover up.

Hell, why stop at plastic surgery?  People wear makeup to look better.  People dye/cut/shave/extend their hair to look better.  People glue pieces of hardened chemicals onto the tips of their fingers to look better.  

All of these things are unnecessary, yet are a part of a vast majority of American women’s lifestyles.  Shoot, there would be no Lovelyish if people just “embraced what they were blessed with”.  Reality is, everyone feels they have faults.  Why scowl at someone who decided to do something about it?

i think there’s a lot of usefulness to plastic surgery.  some of us see ourselves as something completely different than who we are to everyone else.  when i envision myself in my mind’s eye, my waist is about 5 inches skinnier, my nose isn’t crooked, and my boobs aren’t lopsided.  it’s easy for you to sit on your high horse and preach about how plastic surgery is wrong.  but i’ve been told to my face that i wasn’t attractive because of physical attributes that cannot be fixed through diet, exercise or better makeup.  until you go through that (and judging by your pic, i doubt you know what it’s like to be called ugly…), i think you should keep your opinions to yourself.  

@reloadthemetal@xanga - give me a good reason to respect someone who is disgustingly judgmental of complete strangers. 

@TequilaKisses@xanga - not justifying at all. just saying, if, to me, they didn’t need the surgery, they ultimately are a very vapid, shallow person.

@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - give me a good reason why your opinion of me matters when you don’t know me. see, dear, knowing that complete strangers like you judge me as well gives me reason to judge them also

@reloadthemetal@xanga - But beauty is perspective. How can you tell if they do or don’t need plastic surgeries? Or how can you justify for THEM about how they feel towards their bodies?

@holdthekeys@xanga - @LyricallyCharged@xanga - @The_Tudor_Rose@xanga -  Preach it, sistaa.

Personally, I don’t think anyone of us is at the right place to judge others’ decisions on their bodies. If I were to do so, judging on your profile picture, I could easily say that you’re so insecure that you need to dress up nicely, put on heavy eyeliner and hair accessory, but the hell if that would make me “not respect” you. So your logic is askew. Talking about “unnecessary risks” in beautifying a person, there are tons, like chemical in makeups, cancer in tanning, muscle dislocating while exercising etc… Maybe they’re not as extreme as going under a knife, but they’re still “unnecessary risks” like you described, so how can you hate people who are just trying to be beautiful as you are? Just my 2 cents, but I think the title is what irks everyone the most.

I generally dislike the thought of plastic surgery and think people who want it usually look just fine, but I DON’T disrespect people for it. Doing such a thing is just casting a judgment because of the way someone looks.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - yes, there are people that need the braces for health reasons, I was one of them too.  But according to the article, people who get plastic surgery for just cosmetic reasons, are showing that they are insecure about their appearance.  To go to an extreme example, that person with the scar or disfigurement, shouldn’t they be secure about their appearance even without the surgery or make-up?  You say that someone might “look like shit” without make-up, but who is to decide that?  An individual might think they look terrible without make-up but everyone else thinks they look just fine.  Does that person still need make-up?  This applies to plastic surgery as well.  Who decides what is necessary for an individual?

I say, if someone wants it, go for it.  Just don’t go broke overdoing it or get a boob job so huge that you break your back trying to carry them.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - Again, how can YOU tell if one indeed needs surgeries or not? It’s obviously not your body. What right do you own to make that decision for other people?

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - the whole c to dd thing might look really unnatural which is what i think the author is trying to get at

@TequilaKisses@xanga - …..again, i’m not deciding anything for anyone. all i said is that if you get plastic surgery, and i don’t think you need it, i’m not going to have much respect for you. *shrug* 

@shinoseishi@xanga - then you and i basically agree. i’m not telling people not to get plastic surgery because i don’t think they need it. they can go get it; i’m just not really going to have any respect for them. *shrug*

@reloadthemetal@xanga - OMG, don’t you get the question? How can YOU tell if a person does not need the surgeries though? It’s not YOUR body to tell.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - 

“give me a good reason why your opinion of me matters when you don’t know me.”

well, you’re talking like your opinion matters.  unless you’re an expert on the psychology surrounding plastic surgery, i fail to see how your opinion is more valuable than mine.  and where did i say i judged you?  judging implies that i arrived at some separate conclusion based on what i know.  like the example used here: “She has had plastic surgery, so she must be shallow and insecure.”  i’m not judging.  i just don’t like people who are more interested in stereotyping others than getting to know them as human beings.  it’s people like you who make this world a miserable place for others, and judgment is often what leads women to feel like they need plastic surgery to begin with. 

also, to say that you feel justified in judging others because you assume they judged you first is a petty and immature way of looking at the world.  are you that incapable of thinking for yourself?  or if everyone jumped off a bridge, would you do the same?  either judging others is wrong, or it isn’t.  that doesn’t change just because someone might have judged you. 

i don’t judge them. i know how it feels to be disgustingly insecure. i’m dealing with it everyday. and its awful. and if the risk of surgery will help them live a more fulfilling life, more power to them.

@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - judging others may be wrong, but guess what? that’s how the world works. since people feel free to judge me, i’m going to judge them as well. i’m not the person who came up with that rule, so don’t go trying to make me feel bad.

@TequilaKisses@xanga - i get what you’re saying; you don’t get what i’m saying. the person can go and get the surgery if they want to. i’m not saying they shouldn’t. if they do go get the surgery, i’ll lose respect for them. now do you understand?

@CoolKidsHaveEatingDisorders@xanga - i never said they COULDN’T! damn, doesn’t ANYONE get what the hell i’m saying?????

There was this girl I used to know that was crazy anorexic, very depressed, hated herself, etc. Maybe a year or so ago, I don’t know when, but her mom paid for a boob job for her. Her self-esteem did a complete one-eighty, and she’s no longer anorexic, etc. I might not approve of her getting a boob job, but it has clearly made her much happier. And really, who am I to judge? I haven’t seen her since, but I guess her flat chest must have been one of the things that weighed on her mind quite a bit. 

And to be honest, I’ve considered it myself — getting a reduction. I look in the mirror and I think I’m disproportionate, like they don’t belong on my body. Who are you to judge if I want to go down a cup size or two, make my nose a little smaller? If it makes someone feel a little bit more confident in themselves, then what’s the harm?
I guess it sort of depends on the reasons. There’s a difference between doing it for the fuck of it and doing it because it’s something that really bothers you.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - You said, if they don’t need surgeries, but get those anyway, you’ll lose respect for them. Okay, so honest to God, how can you tell if a person does need surgeries? Obviously you did not think about it. Because your narrow-mindedness blinds you from seeing the true intent behind plastic surgeries of other people. I’m not quite sure, still, how can you judge if someone does need or does not need plastic surgeries to respect them, though. You keep repeating yourself but never answer the question directly, yet claim to be understanding what’s been asked. Shrugs.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - I still think that true respect is based off more then if a person has had cosmetic surgery.  Respect ought to be based on their accomplishments, moral choices, and aspirations.  Let’s say a female scientist cured cancer then decided to go from an A cup to a C cup…  Her getting breast implants in no way detracts from her accomplishment.  A cop who saves people’s lives shouldn’t lose our respect because they decided to get a nose job to straighten a broken nose.  

I’m pretty sure they don’t give a shit if you respect them or not.

For me, respect is about character. Caring about the fact that somebody has had plastic surgery is just as shallow as thinking they SHOULD get plastic surgery. Imo.

I guess I understand that…. But what about people who wear colored contacts, or dye their hair, or go to the tanning bed? That’s similar to cosmetic surgery, just less permanent. Let’s take it one step further… Do you disrespect people who wear makeup? I get your argument, but where does it stop….?

@CoolKidsHaveEatingDisorders@xanga - and what is the bigger picture? that people should love and respect themselves as is. getting plastic surgery when you don’t have a deformity or need to correct something important (e.g., a swollen leg from lymphodema), is NOT respecting and loving yourself as is.

@TequilaKisses@xanga -because they don’t have a fucking obvious deformity! look at the example i gave “coolkids”….what-the-fuck-ever. that’s an obvious, and dangerous, deformity. a “crooked” nose or “fat” lips are not.

Whoever has this opinion is just as vain as those who get plastic surgery. 

@shinoseishi@xanga - it does……..all the attention is on her chest, not her accomplishments. 

well i disrespect anyone *that* can’t use grammar correctly.

*should be whose. hint hint.

@CoolKidsHaveEatingDisorders@xanga - those changes are temporary and can easily vary. how you can even begin to compare them to plastic surgery, which is damaging, permanent and uneasily changed, is beyond me.

@hunger_isbeautifulxx@xanga - you’d just have to trust me on this one, it REALLY wouldn’t look off. I would never do something that looked like I did something. Does that make sense? People automatically assume DD is HUGE but its all about the proportion of the persons body. Its really annoying. Everyone thingks I want heidi montage boobs but that isn’t what it looks like on EVERY body.

Really, people make it out to be a huge deal because all we ever see is when people go to one extreme or another and all the horrors of it in magazines. Most people you probably wouldn’t even be able to tell.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - For some people, maybe all they will see are her breasts.  But there are many more people who will see what she has accomplished in the greater scheme of things.  Getting cosmetic surgery doesn’t change what one has already done and what they have already achieved.  If they have chosen to go under the knife for an elective surgery, I don’t think they deserve to lose the respect we might have already had for them.  It might be difficult later on for them to earn respect because they have to battle their accomplishments with their appearances, but I don’t think plastic surgery now, destroys all the respect they earned in the past.  Their achievements are still there even after the surgery. 

@reloadthemetal@xanga - There you go, you finally understood the question after my 4th time trying. You’re not that stupid after all However, to continue my case, I knew a girl in college got a laser liposuction because she couldn’t exercise without serious shortness of breath for her asthma was severe. She was always depressed; she never came out of her dorm room whenever anyone had party. She finally got liposuction and was down as much as 20lbs all over her body. Now she’s obviously happier and also eating healthier; she came out and spoke as Representative for Nutrition class and is not ashamed of her plastic surgery.
This case makes me wonder that, many people can and do have serious psychological problems about their appearances along with the public’s reaction to their flaws. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone is even suicidal about not being perfect. If plastic surgery is the answer to better their physical/mental health, then it IS necessary, hence, you should respect them no matter what.

@TequilaKisses@xanga - ooooooh, i should respect someone because they didn’t have a serious medical issue but stuffed themselves with plastic anyway? no. if they don’t have a life threatening medical condition that can be fixed with plastic surgery, i won’t do it. that’s all i’ve been saying this whole time. i’m sorry you can’t wrap your tiny little brain around that.

@CoolKidsHaveEatingDisorders@xanga - uh, how can you not? you can die from being so goddamned vain and stuffing yourself with plastic.

If I weren’t so afraid of pain, I’d get my nose done. It’s not because I don’t have enough confidence in myself, it’s not because the media tells me my nose should look a certain way–I just want my nose to look different. And yes, I like who I am with or without a nose job. How can you disrespect my decision to alter my body as *I* see fit when you don’t even know me? Would you disrespect someone who alters their natural appearance through dramatic piercings or tattoos? To me it’s no different from choosing what style of clothing you want to wear, because it’s all about how you want tolook.

@xiaosnowtenshi@xanga - but you can take out piercings and get tattoos removed. with plastic, it’s not that simple.

I guess I just don’t see the purpose of this post. I don’t really feel one way or another about plastic surgery, but the fact that you bothered to give the post a judgmental (& grammatically incorrect, but that’s another story) title & then immediately recant tells me that the purpose was just to rile people up.

“That’s tells me that you’re not strong or brave enough to embrace what you were blessed with.” Does this mean people shouldn’t color their hair? Or wear makeup? Or, you know, dress nicely? Or dress, period? Perhaps we should all walk around naked & natural. Embrace what you’re blessed with! Or think yhrough your posts next time. Sorry.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - because its none of ur damn business. If ur fine being ugly then good.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - Looks who has a tinier brain because you’re the ONLY one people are disgusted by so far in the post However, to continue my response, you DON’T know if they are psychologically affected by NOT having plastic surgery yet. If they’re too insecure and upset by it, then let them get 10 million surgeries if they need to, in order to feel better. It’s not your body to judge and to understand how it feels for them. Just so you know, people don’t actually have PLASTIC in their bodies with all plastic surgeries. I thought you should know what it is before refuting it.

Are you serious? Plastic surgery is just like makeup except makeup isn’t permanent. You can sit around complaining about how you look or you can go do something about it. 

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - ha, i personally think i’m hot, and i don’t need plastic surgery to validate it or make myself look a way which society approves of!

@CoolKidsHaveEatingDisorders@xanga - there’s a direct correlation between your health and happiness……i thought everyone knew that. :silly”

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - Ah, yeah, being pretty is the only thing that matters. Ever, period.

Oh, wait.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - haha i bet ur not. Whatever not everyone can be attractive.

Annnnnnd anyone’s supposed to give a shit whether you respect them or not? it’s their choice. stop thinking so high and mighty of yourself and being so shallow. I’m a 32A and when i get enough money then hell yeah i’m getting breast augmentation. Is your opinion going to change my mind and you supposedly not respecting me going to stop me? no. not in a million years. 

@hyokyung@xanga - so truee! Like whatever! if ppl have a problem with plastic surgery its either being their
A) too poor for it

or

B) they’re in denial of how bad they need it. So ugly they need to think their inner beauty is what counts.

@SuburbanSweetheart - pretty much, ugly gets u no where. you just hate it being ur probably too poor for it. Get a life and complain about something worth while.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - You’re right, everyone who disagrees with you must be ugly AND poor! The two always go hand in hand.

@blondiedeam@xanga - Hell yah girl! Shes a nobody and frankly her opinion does not matter. She ugly so shes just hating hahaha

@reloadthemetal@xanga - OMG. And I thought you could not be more ignorant. Health and happiness are related, especially mental health.

@SuburbanSweetheart - and anyone who gets plastic surgery is automatically subjected to disrespect? 

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - Perhaps you missed my original comment, where I called the writer out on having ridiculous logic. I don’t have a problem with plastic surgery – I just have a problem with girls who think it’s OK to call other people ugly just because they happen to disagree. We actually have similar views on plastic surgery – just not on common courtesy.

I think you’re pretty terrible for judging people before knowing their reasons WHY they got their surgery. I under went the knife to get a breast REDUCTION. At 22 I was a 36 DDD/E and I stand 5’3”. Yes, I got the surgery not just for health issues, my back was a wreck and I was over weight because it was painful to work out, but I also got the surgery to make myself look better, be more comfortable, and to be less self conscious about people constantly staring at me for my large boobs. Don’t judge people for going under the knife unless you know their true reasons WHY. 

@SuburbanSweetheart - THANK YOU! *high five*

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - And yes, the girl you’re arguing with is pretty low on common courtesy, too. But you’re both missing the point – she’s saying that she can’t respect anyone who alters their appearance, & you’re basically saying you can’t respect anyone who doens’t – anyone you see as being “ugly” is worthless. Which is just as ridiculous.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - haha, i am, if you ask me and my boyfriend. stop trying to get me down just because i agree with this post.

@SuburbanSweetheart - might be, but hey, that’s the way this world work. if you call me names and whatever because i agree with a different opinion, why do you deserve my respect?

@reloadthemetal@xanga - Honey, can you read? Where did I call you names? I said you were being rude. That’s not a name, it’s an adjective. Should I take this to mean that you’re retracting your high five?

@reloadthemetal@xanga - bhahahah sure he does. Disrespect someone and get the same shit in return.

Your body is your temple. I like my body the way it is, but I won’t criticize others who want to change theirs.

@SuburbanSweetheart - no, no, i’m not saying you called me names. i’m agreeing with your “everyone who disagrees with her must be ugly and poor!” comment.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - you’re such a little punk ass bitch, so shut the fuck up.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - In that case, cheers.

I think @literate_pony@xanga has said it best, & I agree completely. Period.

I’m not going to say that I disrespect the people who get cosmetic surgery, but I do not respect the choice, although I accept that it is their choice which they have a right to make. I just fully disagree with it and there’s nothing wrong with that, and I don’t think there is anything wrong with the author’s view either. For those of you who have had plastic surgery, if you are so easily offended by the author’s point of view, maybe you should take a step back and evaluate your own choices. If you can’t take someone’s opinion when they disagree with it, I have a feeling you weren’t so confident with yourself to begin with and your choice or else you would not feel so emotionally responsive.

To me, you can ALWAYS learn to love your natural looks, no matter what “ugly” or unhappy you are. Sorry, there’s NO excuse. I don’t want to hear BS about you being teased when you were younger because you aren’t the only one. I have been called everything in the book, and nowadays no single comment in the world can even think abought budging my self esteem, and I have never been touched by a plastic surgeon. Anyone can learn to accept their looks, getting surgery is just taking the easy way out.

I completely agree with you. We shouldn’t change our bodies, and put ourselves at great risk, to fit what society wants us to believe is a “perfect body”.

@zzzzzulavalle@xanga - @holdthekeys@xanga - @shinoseishi@xanga - @HeLLo_Bianca@xanga - @XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - 

I didn’t mean to come across as shallow. Maybe using “disrespect” wasn’t the right choice of wording because yes, a person’s character is what should be judged more so than their appearance, I agree with you there wholeheartedly. But when someone does get extreme plastic surgery done just because they weren’t happy with their appearance, I honestly tend to think a little less of them, or should I say, I disagree with their choice to have it done. I think everyone is beautiful in their own unique way and I feel sad and somewhat disappointed when someone can’t embrace what was given to them. 

@reloadthemetal@xanga - hahahahhhah!

@renoir_recluse@xanga - My argument is more for EXTREME cases aka Heidi Montag. Make up, hair dye, colored contacts, and other temporary changes I feel are okay. But when you permanently alter your body, that’s like a slap in the face to Mother Nature, in my opinion. 

How about judging somebody based on things they do that actually affects other people? I know it’s not good to be insecure and of course we all have our insecurities (some more than others) but that’s our own problem. Unless these insecurities actually impose themselves on other people and are affecting others in a really horrible way, I don’t see how it’s really any of our business what they want to do to themselves. Respect has nothing to do with agreeing with what others do. If you can only give respect to those who sees the same perspective as you, well, then, that’s very unfortunate. Not everybody can overcome what others can and if this is the only way for them to feel better, why not? I think it’s better to respect somebody based on their personality and how they treat others and not what they don’t like about themselves.

someones a little harsh and quick to judge 

jesus

@TLM_0506@xanga - I stated with the exception of understandable reasons like health issues, I don’t see the point in getting plastic surgery JUST for the sake that you hate the way you look. Breast reductions are COMPLETELY understandable because I’m aware of the problems some people have when they’re breasts are too big that they cause back problems. I have a few friends with that problem. Breast implants are another that I go back and forth on all the time, while I’m comfortable with my own breast size, I’m the next in my generation to be at risk for breast cancer [they edited this out of the post] I thought about getting implants just to avoid breast cancer altogether. I still think about it but I probably won’t because I just don’t like messing around with my body. 

@lagnolalia@xanga - Like I replied to the other comments regarding the respect issue, I worded it wrong and it came out a lot more harsh than I intended. I should say that I disagree with one’s choice to get it done solely because they’re insecure with the way they look. It just makes me think that the person is obsessed with looks and they don’t bother to think that there are plenty of other things in life that matter more than the way you look. 

@shimsham20@xanga - We all can’t be perfect with grammar. I slip up every once in a while, it happens to everyone. Better I type like this with a few slip ups than tYpInG lYkE dIs, you know what I’m saying? You should probably pick more extreme battles. Just sayin’.

I’m like you. I know there are times when plastic surgery is necessary (I have another one for your list…breast reduction for girls who’s bodies literally can’t support their breasts. It happens.). I really don’t see the pointing in it other than the necessary. Who cares if you don’t like your nose or your boob size?!? Live with what you were given and get over it. If you can’t accept yourself now what makes you think you’ll be able to accept yourself after you’ve become fake?

@reloadthemetal@xanga - “crooked teeth can interfere with your health, actually. i had braces in middle school; if i hadn’t worn them, my teeth would have spaced out like a motherfucker, worsening my clinical depression, and who knows what other effects. and depending on the person, they can need makeup, because they look like shit without itor because they have a scar or disfigurement which they want to cover up.”

uhhh. Your argument is invalid. In an earlier post, you say that you wouldn’t respect someone who changed their looks for physical needs. SO, if I say that not getting a boob job will make me depressed – do you still respect me? Since you are allowed to get braces simply because spaced teeth will make you depressed? WTF. What if I’m like the person you’re talking about. You know, the one who “needs the makeup because they look like shit without it?” Maybe I look like shit without bigger boobs. You are defending certain aspects of changing your looks while bashing on others. You’re a hypocrite. I don’t respect you because you fixed you’re NATURAL fucked up, spaced out, ugly ass teeth. 

@MissAshley - THANK. YOU. VERY. FUCKING. MUCH! THAT was my only point! you said it so well though!

@Youthful_Ignorance@xanga - ………small boobs aren’t dangerous to your health. crooked teeth can be. so i just made your little argument invalid.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - Actually, I didn’t say that they couldn’t be. I’m saying that in YOUR case, they weren’t. You are using “worsened depression due to spaced out teeth” as a health issue. I’m simply saying that if that’s true, “worsened depression due to small boobs” can also be used as an excuse. You aren’t making any sense. You defend some COSMETIC procedures, while rejecting others. Quite frankly, you’re making yourself look extremely stupid. 

 Meh. You’re entitled to your opinion.
But I find it a little narrow, to think in black and white and to leave no considerations for experiences that you have never had to live yourself.

I was about to agree with you, but AHH THE COMMENTS! So I’m going to say, yeah, it’s a little judgmental, and not because I’m going along with everyone else, but because I realize after seeing everyone elses’ points of view, I am wrong in thinking I can disrespect someone for that reason. It’s actually very petty. 

@TheSaltMine@xanga - It’s not narrow. I said with the exceptions of people that have those understandable reasons [they edited out a few of my reasons]. I just disagree with someone when they look to plastic surgery solely for the purpose that they’re insecure with their looks. There’s more to life than your appearance. I mean, if people want it, go right ahead. I just disagree with the reasoning of the decision being made for it.

@MiaJoyTheWriter@xanga - Yea, I see the validity of others’ comments too. Which is why I posted my opinion and I wanted to know others’ opinions and honestly, I wasn’t anticipating most of the comments at all! I wasn’t trying to seem shallow lol. I just disagree with messing with your body if you don’t need it. I even thought about getting breast implants to avoid the risk of getting breast cancer but again, I just don’t like messing with my body. It’s an opinion. But I do see other sides of it too thanks to the feedback.

*cough* heidi *cough*

I don’t respect people that are judgemental and those that think that people that had plastic surgery aren’t “strong enough” or “brave enough”…I hope you don’t wear makeup, paint your nails, dye your hair, wear trends, shape your eyebrows, or SHAVE YOUR ARMPITS…otherwise your argument has no hold.

@how_x_loverly@xanga - That’s still narrow; you’re judging the actions of other people, based on a set of feelings that you will never have to deal with personally.

You will never know what it is like to be those people. You’re being as egocentric as you possibly could be.
Of course, that’s normal for humans. I just don’t much care for it.

this was posted purely for controversy.

that

 is what I don’t respect.

@shinoseishi@xanga - Um, no some people really need braces. If your teeth are really jacked up, it’s hard to chew, and you’re constantly cutting your mouth when you are eating. You risk braking teeth because you can’t chew right. 

I do’nt care if they do or not.  I like dyeing my hair and I do my eyebrows.  And I am going t oget my leg hair lazer removed when I get the money.

And when I’m middle aged I’d like to get my eyes fixed.It would make my life convenient.  
Its not plastic surgery, but it IS permentetly altering my body

I don’t look down on anyone who does it to make their apearence more desirable for themselves however.  My sister had a huge mole removed that she was teased harshly about daily.  I don’t look down on her for it.  She was taunted about it daily and sometimes it gets to the point where you do want to do something about it. And if you disagree, it’s the same thing as doing your eyebrows or legs.  Would you REALLY do it if society didn’t make it expected of you.
I would totaly get cosmetic surgery on my chin.  Its an okay chin, as far as they go,  but it is MY body, and its my only one, so I don’t want to think of it as just okay

Everyone deals with insecurity, but keep in mind that not everyone finds it so easy to deal with as you do. There are a couple things that have bothered me about my appearance, but nothing compared to the insecurity my nose brought me. After years of teasing, it is difficult to simply shrug off comments like they’re nothing. I may be vain, so what? I grew tired of feeling uncomfortable when looking at pictures of myself, looking at myself in the mirror… I grew overly shy and delicate to even the most innocent of remarks about my looks. Believing you are beautiful… Easier said than done. Sure, I may have taken the ‘easy way out’, but I’ve never felt more beautiful and confident in my life. I am 100% certain I will never undergo plastic surgery again, but I don’t regret my rhinoplasty in the slightest. I’d rather concern myself with more significant areas of a person’s character rather than their vanity anyway. Eh, but to each their own.

Also, ostracizing those who chose to undergo/ are considering cosmetic surgery will not make them feel any more beautiful~

I don’t really have anything against anyone who gets surgery.  I figure they have a reason for it.  Self esteem, medical whatever.  If they tell me their reason and it’s a really stupid one, then maybe I’ll respect them a little less, but not till I hear why.

I need to get re-constructive surgery on my nose.  I broke it about 12 years ago, and ever since it’s constantly causing me breathing, speaking, and nasal drip problems.  Getting surgery to fix the place where I broke it will probably help that.  But every time I tell someone I want to get it fixed they complain and hate on plastic surgery…sigh heh.

What if I told you that I disrespected you for wearing makeup? I can
basically cite the exact same reason you cited for disrespecting people
who have gone under the knife: Wearing makeup “tells me that you’re not
strong or brave enough to embrace what you were blessed with. I
respect when a person has confidence in themselves and knows there’s so
much more to life than just our physical appearances. I suppose the
media can be blamed for telling us how we should look if we want to be
considered beautiful.”

so you dont respect at least half of Korea….

I don’t respect anyone that’s worn makeup. 

I think that people who wear makeup and criticize others for having plastic surgery are complete hypocrites. 

You might have a little more sympathy when you aren’t young or pretty anymore.

Well, aren’t you just a shallow, cold-hearted bitch?

oh, and maybe people should stop wearing makeup and getting tattoos. you know, because that changes your appearance in a superficial way too.
this post was made to cause controversy.

people who undergo surgery are stronger than people who hate themselves and just decide to live with it. Pain is beauty, beauty is painful. If you get lipo, implants, etc, you’re going to be in pain for a few weeks after… most people don’t have enough drive to get past the pain.

Similarly, I find it hard to respect a person who goes out and buys ever anti-aging product on the market because they can’t accept that growing older is a part of life. 

do you mean those who feel insecure / not confident about themselves are not worthy of your respect? i’m sure they have other good qualities. if they feel better when they take a plastic surgery, who are we to judge? is it wrong wanting to look better? besides, i believe it takes a lot of courage to choose a path that is so controversial.

So what’s it to you if someone DOESN’T have 100% confidence or their insecure? Yea so what if people are insecure and their not strong or “brave enough to embrace” themselves…? That’s awesome and great for you that you’re completely confident in yourself but not everyone is… so you don’t respect people who are insecure with themselves..?

hm no wonder people who ae insecure continue to be insecure cuz they read things like this on the internet titled ‘I don’t respect anyone whos had plastic surgery” lmao. This post is just god damn ridiculous and so judgmental it’s making me want to throw up.

by this philosophy, i assume you don’t wear make up or tidy your hair or care about how you dress. okay.

Disagree, you can’t judge someone because they want to change their apperance. That’s kind of dumb.

Then you might as well not respect people who wear make up, dye their hair, have piercings or tattoos. I’m naturally a blond but I have red hair right now. I’m no worse a person because of it. This post is shallow and judgmental. 

@reloadthemetal@xanga - 

“judging others may be wrong, but guess what?
that’s how the world works.”

well, it’s good to know you base right and wrong on whatever is popular at the time…

 ”since people feel free to judge me, i’m
going to judge them as well. i’m not the person who came up with that
rule, so don’t go trying to make me feel bad.”

no, but you ARE a person with free will in complete control of your own actions (at least, i’m assuming…. judging by your attitude, i’m starting to doubt my theory).  sinking to someone else’s level is just that: sinking. 

Well, you must feel all high and mighty with such a proclamation! I find people who are so adamantly against plastic surgery such as yourself, that they appear almost offended by it have some issues themselves; perhaps the unnecessary competition of a newly attractive person?… A newfound sex appeal you can’t ever attain?

I mean, what about it threatens you? How is it even your business to comment on, anyway? What if I said I don’t respect girls who put on too much eyeliner? How would that make you feel.

Jeez woman.

@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - I COMPLETELY agree with you. ” some of us see ourselves as something completely different than who we are to everyone else.” Yep. I am getting my nose fixed, not because I hate myself, but because it doesn’t look right on me, and it is not the nose that fits my face or my personality; just me. Bitches like this blogger don’t know what it’s like to grow up in this type of situation where a facial feature or bodily feature makes you stand out in a way that you feel isn’t representative of you, (based on her profile picture). She’s probably too boringly, blandingly pretty to know what it’s like to be different without trying/wanting to be. 

@garf_wong@xanga - The courage comment… I respect THAT. I have to take a lot of crap from friends/family about choosing to get a nose job, but I’m still doing it anyway. FOR ME.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - So since I got surgery on my toe to remove a mole for biopsy (that later turned out to not be cancerous) and skin grafts to patch it up, you don’t respect me since the [technically plastic] surgery wasn’t actually for a “life-threatening” condition?

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - Agreed.
@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - soooooo right!
@holdthekeys@xanga - Totally agree, this post is just one big contradiction written by a hypocrite.
@reloadthemetal@xanga - What may seem normal to you might not seem normal to someone else, might be hard to believe but the world doesn’t revolve around you and your ideal of beauty. I don’t think surgery is something someone just ‘does’, it hurts, takes time and it costs A LOT of money. It’s not as easy as hollywood makes it seem. You don’t know how much that person has been suffering mentally. If someone is not happy with the way they look, even if YOU think they look beautiful, they’ll suffer, maybe even so much that it leads to depression or suicide. If someone who’s beautiful gets surgery to get even more beautiful AND happy at the same time, why are you bitching? At the end of the day it’s their choice, their money and I don’t think that person who had surgery gives a fuck what a person like you thinks. Nice of you to judge someone for having plastic surgery rather than for who they are. Here is your one reason, YOU might think they don’t need surgery but THEY might think they do need surgery, since it’s their life I think they’ll go with their own judgment rather than yours. Oh and get your head out of your ass, might require some surgery since it seems to be up there quite deep, hypocriiitee much?

As for this post, who are you to judge someone else for having plastic surgery because they were unhappy with the way they looked before? So if someone has a car crash and then plastic surgery it’s okay but someone suffering MENTALLY from whatever it is they hate about themselves isn’t ‘strong’ enough? With that logic the person in the car crash should be proud of their ‘scars’ and they’re superficial and weak for caving for society’s standards of ‘normal’. Why should they have plastic surgery? Sure they might ‘think’ they look ugly after the car crash but it’s just battle wounds from what they’ve been through. I hope you realize I’m being sarcastic there, I absolutely can’t respect people who don’t get sarcasm. Someone altering their face after a car crash because they think they look ugly isn’t that much different from someone altering their face because they think they look ugly. In both cases they have plastic surgery because they think they look ugly, now you come along and decide that someone who’s been in a car crash is INDEED ugly and disgusting and therefore can have plastic surgery but someone who was born ‘ugly’ can’t because let’s face it poor crash victims shouldn’t go through life getting made fun of their uglyness but someone who’s born that way should be proud of who they are ( because you think so) otherwise they’re weak. Do you even realize what you’re doing here? You’re decide who’s ugly and who’s not. Car crash or breast cancer = ugly & Freak of nature therefore plastic surgery is oke, Girl with small chest or big nose = Natural therefore plastic surgery is not okay.  You’re pathetic for calling anyone that has plastic surgery weak and insecure. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You might think someone is absolutely gorgeous but if that person hates themselves they got the right to have plastic surgery if they want to. The media shouldn’t be blamed, like someone else mentioned before, people like YOU should be blamed for being judgmental to people you don’t even know.

I do think someone people have unnecessary surgeries and it’s silly for them to think they look ugly. BUT I’m not gonna judge someone or show no ‘respect’ to them because they decide to have surgery.. what they do to their face or body doesn’t define who they are. Nor does it make them weak. I don’t know what they see when they look at themselves in the mirror but I am pretty sure it is different from what you and I would see in those people.

Lastly, I don’t think anyone would want your respect to begin with. I’d rather have no respect than respect from a utter moron, but that’s a whole other story.

so if they were once pretty and an accident made them ugly it’s okay for them to get plastic surgery, but if they were always ugly they have to deal with it?

I agree, and a good portion of people who get plastic surgery don’t even need it in the first place. You have got to be insane to spend lots of money and risk your life by going under just for bigger tits or a smaller nose or some shit. 

We don’t need to interfere with people’s choices but yes, to many extents people do needless surgery. 
We don’t need to embrace an “ideal” look because though some people might need it others really don’t and it might not really be a perfect thing. 

I would still respect the person, but I think it’s a stupid decision. If it’s not for a medical reason, I think it’s ridiculous to spend loads of money and risk your life with surgery just to look ‘better’..If you were meant to look a different way, you would. That’s just my opinion.

@lindsayloves8@xanga - Based on your picture I think you’re gorgeous. Just sayin’

As for the post, I agree with everyone speaking against this post. “Cardiac surgeon who’s saved many lives, wow! i’m impressed.  What? You graduated from Harvard too! perfect GPA you say! active member of your church and community…AMAZING!..huh, what’s that? you had a facelift…uuhh nevermind just lost all respect.”

 I truly hate disrespect. World would be a much better place without it. I could understand having none for a soulless ax murderer or something, but appearance choices? I don’t think so. If someone has very low self esteem they need help and not judgment anyways. Not that everyone who gets surgery has low self-esteem. On a side note, lets say a person with a nice looking nose gets in an accident, screws up nose so they get surgery to fix the look back to how it was. Now lets pick someone who was born with a horrid nose, worse looking than the person who got in an accident. He’s not allowed to get surgery or people lose respect for him? Does that make sense to anyone else?

@TequilaKisses@xanga - 

Agree with you 100% in everything you have said so far.

to everyone here who’s called me “dumb”, a “hypocrite”, whatever, you all can fuck off. you didn’t understand what the hell i was trying to say, if i am a hypocrite, every single one of you are also, and, quite frankly, i’m fucking done. i don’t dwell on this shit, like you all do, for 3 to 4 days.

i don’t see anything really wrong with it. i mean, if you do it for your own reasons, to feel good about yourself and fix something that really annoys you. i think people underestimate the effect low self esteem can have on people. i used to know a girl who had a noticeably too-big nose for her face. she was the shyest girl i’ve ever met. she was a virgin at the age of 25 (not by choice, i might add) and she really didn’t have any close friends.
i met her last year and she had gotten a nose job. she was getting married to this lovely guy and had a great job and was doing so well. and it wasn’t that this guy was just shallow or something, she had just never been able to face talking to him or going after the things she wanted before. her insecurities just had such a hold on her and i believe that in the end they would have ruined her.

it’s a different thing if you have something done for attention on whatever. but we all try to change the way we look in some way. i try to make my cheekbones more defined with makeup. less permanent, yes, but pretty much the same thing.

@KayC -@CochonChocolat -@starcrossedloversdivine@xanga - My argument towards plastic surgery is that I don’t AGREE with it, especially in cases where you REALLY do not need it. I’m thinking of Heidi Montag’s case – she was SUCH a pretty, gorgeous, girl and there was nothing wrong with her physical appearance whatsoever, then she went a changed it all and made herself look completely unreal and not in a good way. If you need plastic surgery for health reasons, that’s completely understandable. It’s just the fact that you’re throwing away a lot of money to achieve something you already have. I have nothing against make-up or hair dye because it’s temporary. Make-up, hair dye, shaving – that’s pretty much an everyday norm because they’re small and temporary. Plastic surgery is like thousands of dollars not only are you throwing away, but you’re risking your life for [however big or small the risk]. 

@tofloataway@xanga - @splinter1591@xanga - @TiffanyBlues - @JusticeCho@xanga - @AshaHasFeet@xanga - @the_rocking_of_socks@xanga - @garf_wong@xanga - @DoRi_dOrI@xanga - @XoPinkHeart@xanga - @OstentatiousEloquence@xanga - I REALLY wasn’t trying to come across judgmental. That was definitely NOT my intention. Disrespecting someone because of their choices of plastic surgery was poor wording on my part because I meant that I just don’t agree with the choice being made. Just like I don’t agree with smoking or doing drugs. My intentions with the post wasn’t to put controversy out there but to put out my opinion of plastic surgery and get feedback from others as to what they think of it. I do admit that I had a big mole on the side of my face that I got teased for all throughout my childhood and as much as I wanted it gone, I embraced it and thought of it as my own special mark. Well I had to get it removed a few years ago for cancer reasons and so I had to get minor surgery on my face. Was I happy it was gone? Did I feel better about myself? Honestly, yes. 

So after reading the views of others, I have more of an understanding of other opinions towards the subject. I’m not judgmental of others for their physical appearances whatsoever in real life. I share a lot of sympathy for others who have insecurities because I’ve had plenty of my own growing up with my own hearing disability, so I’ve never judged anyone on any condition that they have had. My post was merely with extreme cases like Heidi Montag in mind, and seeing as she was already a nice looking girl before surgery, it was just something I wanted to address. I really REALLY wasn’t trying to spite anyone.  

@xSerendipity713x@xanga - Can we just re post this entry with just your comment? Because that’s EXACTLY what I was trying to say. -.-

You’re oversimplifying the issue. @reloadthemetal@xanga says that her braces were necessary to help with her depression- my mother’s breast implants were necessary to help with her depression. If my breasts get floppy after I have children, I may get a lift. A person’s body isn’t any of your business, and where does the line for body modification get drawn? Are tattoos and piercings okay? How about hair color, waxing, painting nails?

I don’t like the lengths some people take it to, personally, and there aren’t many reasons I would get it myself. You have a right to your opinion, of course, but I would encourage you to rethink your position.

My problem is with people who can’t afford it and do it anyway.

@LyricallyCharged@xanga - Exactly.

well , may be you are pretty , and you obviously don’t understanding how painful is a girl is not looking good , even ugly .

i want to ask u a question , hv u ever laugh at anyone juz because she’he is not looking good , im asian , i always laughed by my classmates because of my small eyes (just 2 lines when i smile, my fds told me) , i hv think mani times to hv some plastic surgery to make my eyes look bigger , but i m not that brave enough
 now i hv heard a thousand times ppl laughing at me (like she totally likes a cat), i don’t care it now, before that i had cried for it mani times   
i don’t encourage ppl to have the plastic surgery  , i just don’t know why u can’t respect them , if they can choose , they don’t want to hv plastic surgery  , right ?

ahh. alright. i read the post as well as the comments.

 ”i don’t respect anyone that’s had plastic surgery” is very much generalizing and vastly over simplifying a group of people.

first, there’s totally a spectrum of how much plastic surgery people get… from the heidi montags on one end, to the other end, like my friend who is a beautiful, intelligent girl with a very mishapen nose that thought about plastic surgery for a very long time, and everyone else in between. That group covers a very diverse bunch of people of all ethnicities, personalities, intelligence levels, and amounts of plastic surgery, and to say that you can’t respect anyone in that group is stereotyping and a bit ignorant.

second, there is a very emotion and mental process involved behind the act of getting plastic surgery. some people literally wake up feeling like they are worthless and unattractive because of a flaw. whether the flaw is small (mostly in their mind) or very apparent to everyone, feeling this way is a very difficult position to be in. i feel genuinely sympathetic and also somewhat empathetic for anyone that feels that every day. and who am i to judge that this feeling is invalid or superficial? to them, it’s a real issue.

third, i totally agree that people should try to love themselves for what they are/how nature made them, but the world we live in (with constant facebook pics, images of beautiful women everywhere, etc.) makes living by this very difficult and somewhat unrealistic. i kind of think the trend of plastic surgery sucks and the way our culture has adopted it, not necessarily the individual people who get it.

@hg123456@xanga - <333

@novalidation@xanga - you just made my morning:)

@reloadthemetal@xanga - people do and buy a lot of things that they don’t need. how’s this that much different? i don’t need my nails painted, but they look better painted. i don’t need that new purse but i want it. 

i don’t NEED breast implants but you can bet your ass as soon as this baby is born and i’ve lost the baby weight that i’m getting them done. why? because i want to. not for my husband or for any other guy to oogle at, but because i want them done. you can have your opinion, but i do feel like it’s rude to disrespect someone who gets something because it makes them happy.

I highly doubt you are completely comfortable with every part of your body. That doesn’t necessarily mean that you would want surgery to fix them, but when people notice that they dislike a part of their body and want to fix it, who are you to tell them the kind of person they are?

I don’t care if anyone wants to undergo plastic surgery for whatever reasons, just don’t ever force anybody to change their appearance for the sake of someone else eg to get bigger boobs because “the boyfriend says so otherwise he would break up with me”. 

Other than that I think there’s no right or not to do change your appearance if that makes you a more confident and happier person.

Should someone lose respect for you because of what you do to change your looks?  If you are so shallow that you base liking someone on whether or not they altered their appearance, you should take a closer look at your own values.  Strangers couldn’t care less if they have your respect and you aren’t a good friend if you would devalue those you know based upon something they do that is frankly just none of your business.  Maybe people have procedures done on portions of their bodies because the issue bothers them to the extent that it impacts their lives.  Stop being so narrow-minded and judgemental on something that (to repeat myself) is none of your business.

I would have to know more about them before I would decide whether to respect the person or not.  It would factor into what I think about them, because I do think that a lot of people who get cosmetic surgery don’t need it at all, but I would have to know them a little better before I could decide whether to respect them.  True, a lot of people who get plastic surgery are just plain shallow and like to blow lots money on stupid shit they don’t really need.  But some of them might just be insecure, or sick of being ridiculed about a big nose or small boobs or something else of that nature, and I actually feel bad for those people.  Being insecure sucks a lot and can make your life hell, so if that’s what makes you feel better, then it’s not my call to make.

And as far as the “spending money on things you don’t need” argument…I can’t really even make a case for that at all because of my love for tattoos.  No, I don’t need them, and a lot of my family members and friends think it’s totally stupid that I spend money on them.  But they’re important to me as a form of self-expression since I design all of them myself.  So I can’t rip on somebody who is already pretty but wants to get D-cup boobs since I’m willing to invest in large amounts of ink over the course of my lifetime.  And assuming someone is shallow just for getting plastic surgery is kind of the same as assuming someone who gets tattoos is slutty or does drugs or whatever other stereotypes go along with girls that have lots of tattoos.  Bottom line is it pays to reserve judgment unless you know someone pretty well!

Give yourself twenty years and a couple kids.  You might not choose to get plastic surgery yourself, but you’ll probably have a more charitable attitude toward people who do.

Initially I wasn’t going to comment because I didn’t want to be embroiled in this response drama.  But after pondering this topic for some time (and reading quite a few posts), I realize that a lot of people on here aren’t getting the bigger picture - the ramifications of plastic surgery on people everywhere.  

I’m just going to bring up one very controversial country – South Korea.  One of the world’s most infamous plastic surgery mecca.  Have you seen their celebrities lately? Have you seen the girls in that country recently? Everyone seems like they’re clones of each other.  It’s come to a point where it’s hard to differentiate from person to person.  

What kind of lessons are instilled in younger generations when all they see are celebrities’ altered appearances? They’ll want what they see.  They’ll think what they have now isn’t enough.  They fall into a downward spiral of depression because they think that this kind of beauty is never attainable.  What feeds further into this self-hatred are celebrities and others who subscribe to plastic ideology but don’t come out to tell people about their enhancements. So there are actually people who believe that their beauty is natural.  Then it becomes a vicious cycle of self-disgust and loathing.  

We all have flaws.  Some are more capable of getting over their hurdles than other people.  But the best way of getting over hurdles isn’t to ‘fix’ themselves up physically, but rather mentally.  We should work towards embracing our flaws rather than needing to resort to physical measures because it’s ultimately our

personality

that should shine.  If all we care for is our outer being, what does that make us? When will we find perfection? When are you ever going to be satisfied?

Beauty is also in the eye of the beholder.  Yes, it’s a cliche line, but so applicable.  What one may deem gorgeous, another may not.  When Angelina Jolie first came out, I thought she was quite…unappealing.  But you know, her unique facial differences grew on me.  Her confidence, posture and personality made up for her looks and I grew to see her as a beauty symbol.  

But traditionally, she’s not what one would call beautiful.  If you look at her, you’ll think she could use some help.  Standards of beauty varies from person to person; what may be beautiful and favorable now, could definitely change later on.  For example, AJ has a huge pair of knocker lips, it’s the undeniable truth.  People copied.  The result? Very few people could actually pull it off.  Standards change with time; don’t fall into the trap of being ‘trendy’.  

I don’t really see beauty as ultimately that important, is what I’m trying to say.  What’s more important is cultivating inner beauty and personality.  If everyone sees plastic as an easy way out, then no one bothers to notice that personality can make up for all flaws.  We become insecure because we only see ‘perfection’, which we are not.  That kind of comparison is not only unfair, it is so damaging to ones’ self-esteem.  

Plastic surgery sometimes can help one feel better and then maybe change their perception of themselves.  But don’t you see the flaw in that? If there weren’t so many people harping on beauty these days, would there be such an insecurity about their beauty? It’s a perpetual hate cycle, with no end in sight until we all finally look like one another.  
Is that the beauty you all want to see? 

I’m fine with plastic surgery if it is for a good reason. Not just because you want a nose like a stars or something, But if your boobs are too big and causing problems then get a breast reduction.

I do believe that if you can’t loose weight i’m all for liposuction as a last resort.

You shouldn’t judge others when you have no idea what they are going through, what they have gone through, or how they react emotionally. Everyone is different and reacts to things differently. 

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. – Plato. 

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Heidi Montag has serious mental problem. She should never be used as an example for others who want to have surgeries to feel better about themselves. Improvement is the key, not addiction

It’s hard to pinpoint exactly how I feel about plastic surgery. Obviously if it’s something that’s needed for health reasons, I’m all for it.

But like boob jobs and stuff like that… Simply put, those aren’t my kinda peeps. In the same way that Good Charlotte fanatics aren’t my kinda peeps. I don’t think they should have their rights taken away… I don’t believe they should be treated poorly or disrespected, and I personally wouldn’t treat them poorly or disrespect them… But I’d be lying if I were to say that I don’t really care for their decision to do it, and I’d likely just avoid them. That’s the worst that I’d do to them.

I agree with you then again don’t only because people who undergo plastic sugery want to fix a part of their body that isn’t right to them. I mean if it makes them happy, why care? It isn’t hurting anyone.

But then again I agree with you because Solange Magnano former beauty queen of Argentina DIED from getting a BUTT LIFT! Like to me she could had avoided her death! She already had a kick ass BODY. She had money,frame but lost it all to a damn butt lift.

Addicted to the knife?  Addicted to the knife.  Surgery, surgery.

so you look at someone and if you “assume” they’ve had plastic surgery you just don’t have respect for them? people should respect other people’s choices for themsselves. maybe they had parents who tore them down about it? my parents tell me i’m fat/told me i was fat all the time. i didn’t go get plastic surgery. i just learned to live with it… i’m not fat. i know it. in fact, im skinny. but that doesn’t change how much those words can hurt and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with someone feeling insecure.. its human nature.. there’s nothing wrong with wanting to be better in your own eyes. yes, excessice surgery is a bit much.. and size humongo boobs are bums are ridiculous.. but its not my body. its theirs… thats like someone not respecting you for wearing so much eye liner in your picture. why didn’t you embrace what the good Lord gave ya?

hmmm i dont know if i would call it respect but i understand why some people have plastic surgery.  all i could say is, we live in a superficial world where looks is everything.  its the first thing we see. 

besides, i kind of envy people who have plastic surgery.  at least they could afford it.

@Cayllesth@xanga - thank you so much, that means a lot you too!

@DrJolly@xanga - I love a good Repo! reference. Haha.

Meh, what they do to their bodies is up to them. Not like their doing us any harm. Personally my signatures of scars and genetic make up show experience and power, like you said. But I encourage people to see them if they can correct their issues ie; breast reduction. weight off their back right? no pun intended.

@Eglariel@xanga - I totally agree and understand.

Seperately – I’m having plastic surgery on Mar 29, and that’s why I clicked onto this page at all. The title pissed me off. Not to mention, the whole thing is contradictory. It started off that the writer doesn’t respect anyone who’s had plastic surgery, and then the first sentence says they don’t. My choice to have surgery is multi-faceted. I have very large breasts, and I’m only 18. I’m reducing them from coming out of a DD cup to fitting well in a C cup. I have a spinal curvature, but I made my surgery decision before learning that. I have depression, and its been just a debilitating thoughout my life as a physical disability – I feel as though nobody takes me seriously because of my breast size. I’m also overweight – my breasts make me self-couscious when exercising. I’m having my breast reduction surgery. And I can say to the writer right now that I don’t respect her, because she passes judgement on people based on their own personal decisions about what they do with their own bodies.

I see you’re wearing a shit ton of makeup in your profile picture… that’s tells me that you’re not strong or brave enough to embrace what you were blessed with.
“I respect when a person has confidence in themselves and knows there’s so much more to life than just our physical appearances…

but please don’t question why I’m not confident enough in myself to not put time and effort into improving my own physical appearance.

“

I respect people who have the confidence to do what they want with their appearance to make themselves happy and don’t worry about what other people are doing.

I don’t respect anyone who writes snotty, pre-menstrual posts on Lovelyish.

@HeLLo_Bianca@xanga - They obviously don’t respect themselves and they way they looked, so they put themselves in unnecessary risk to look better so others would respect them. How can you respect others when you don’t even respect and accept yourself first? 

Easy for a teenager to say.

@TSR_CharlotteGoyle@xanga - It’s amazing how writers more and more don’t even notice the contradictions.  Lovelyish doesn’t care…they publish it anyway.  

I think you mean to say cosmetic surgery. Plastic surgery is a bigger umbrella term, which includes the reconstructive surgery I had to repair my ear that was ripped it half.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - I don’t see what’s wrong with wanting to look nice… it’s like wearing your favorite clothes or wearing your hair in a nice hairstyle. Unless you don’t wear makeup/shave/shower/use any products such as moisturizer or lotion/wax/do your nails/wear deodorant, you shouldn’t judge because you aren’t “au naturale” either and instead are deceiving people of what you really look like….

And anyways, who died and made you God? haha… picking and choosing how and who to judge. Such a silly and egocentric thing to say.

As well, beauty sure is skin deep but ugly is right to the bone, meaning if you have a shit personality and judge people *ahem* it still is worse(according to you worse) than people who choose to fix something about themselves and oh not care about what other people think and become happy. At least they are beautiful on the inside(again according to you plastic surgery=disaster) for remaining caring and compassionate and overall nice people.

@juslitome@xanga - To the last paragraph:

But what’s the point in having the ability to change something about yourself but not do it if you have the money, have thought out the risks and will reend up with more pros than cons?
There is nothing wrong with tweaking yourself and you don’t understand how many times cosmetic surgery has allowed for people to feel more confident, more fulfilled, more I suppose enriched and successful. As well, we only live one life and if I want to look pretty and never was given that opportunity how is that continuing a cycle of hate? Isn’t it just living my life Attempting to feel something only some get to experience? It’s exciting, successful, forward, and great to have plastic surgery available. Honestly, there will always be a pressure for beauty of some sort… humans have to have some sort of ideal of a person, even dating back to ancient Greeks. If you use plastic surgery as a way to feel better about yourself it is an amazing tool that is life changing, and who doesn’t like to have their life changed in a positive way? Your idea of a perfect body can now be acheived and can be used to give you a confidence boost and ultimately build your self esteem.

i don’t respect you. you just made yourself sound ignorant. congrats! 

@TSR_CharlotteGoyle@xanga - Did you not read when I said when the reason is UNDERSTANDABLE? I have no problem with plastic/cosmetic surgery when it comes to an actual necessary reason. Getting extreme cosmetic surgery JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THE WAY YOU LOOK is where I have to disagree with people who choose to get it. Why take such a risk in something so costly and that could possibly put your own life in danger [more or less, I know the chance of dying while under are minimal these days]? I just don’t think it’s worth it if you don’t have a good reason. Your reason is COMPLETELY understandable. Like I’ve said to many MANY others, my wording in this post was misleading in the way I felt about the situation. I’m not judgmental in the least in real life. I just disagree with the choice when it’s shockingly unnecessary. Just like I disagree when people smoke, drink a lot, or do drugs. It goes into that same category. If someone needs cosmetic surgery to fix something up like me, for instance, I had a big mole on my face for all of my life and I got teased endlessly for it. It wasn’t until a couple of years ago I got it finally removed, not because I wanted to so I would look better [though it was a nice advantage] but because it was believed to be cancerous. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t care how I looked with it but I did. Another example was my friend got her labia “trimmed”? [I don't know what the proper wording for it would be.] It wasn’t exactly required for her to get it removed but it became a nuisance to her in some situations.

I’m not trying to contradict myself but after reading the feedback, I’m well aware of the majority of the reasons most people consider cosmetic surgery. I guess my stance on the subject is more for extreme cases like Heidi Montag and other celebrities who get surgery and looked fine to begin with! Like I said, I WAS NOT trying to be judgmental because that is far from my character. It’s one of those situations where what I said and meant, isn’t exactly what everyone hears. 
@raspbxrrryjam@xanga - You saw eyeliner. That’s not exactly a permanent change in my appearance. I would be lying if I said I didn’t get insecure every now and then but I’ve learned not to care what people think of my appearance therefore, I’ve been going more days without makeup. At the most, I go out with cover up anymore to cover up blemishes and my scar from when I got my mole removed. My post was targeted at more permanent changes that have to do with basically changing yourself into looking like someone else aka Heidi Montag. She was beautiful before and she honestly didn’t need the changes that she made. It’s a situation like that which was the cause for me to write this post. Why do people get extreme cosmetic surgery when they absolutely do not need it? My opinion towards cosmetic surgery has become more flexible anyway after reading all of the feedback. 
@TifaRose@xanga - Cosmetic surgery is indeed what I was talking about. Sorry for being so general with the topic. :[

@sugar_mama@xanga - My opinion doesn’t make me ignorant. Simply put, I do not agree with plastic surgery for extremely unnecessary reasons. 

@AngelAsh_86@xanga -  so if I had a lot if money and said hey Why not get some fake boobs that would make You automatically disrespect me? That’s so stupid. Girls sometimes wear makeup because They don’t feel pretty without it. Should I disrespect them for being insecure? Its the same thing, one is just more extreme. And like I sai to the poster, are you going to ask every person with plastic surgery why they had it so you can decide if you want to respect them or not? and would you stop being friends with someone if they had plastic surgery? That’s absolutely ridiculous.

@how_x_loverly@xanga - I admire your spunk and I commend you on standing your ground on this issue – that is all.  

there could be the people though who undergo the surgery because they are incredibly unhappy with their appearance that it controls their lives, but after the surgery they gain the confidence to stand up for and go after what they want. just because they want it, and i don’t mean they as in the people who go under bi-weekly to get something done, shouldn’t give you or anyone else the reason to disrespect them for all you could know is before the surgery you probably would disrespect them just as much or more. everyone judges one another whether based appearance, heritage, pigments, or material things.. everyone gets judge. the ones who are judged and looked down upon for how they look and want to change it so they can’t stop being put down, there’s no reason to disrespect them for it because they did it to stop being hated and disrespected, not to be disrespected.

but then why wear make-up if you don’t like plastic surgery, or dye you’re hair? you’re hiding what you’re naturally blessed with by doing that as well.

@juslitome@xanga - Unfortunately, it’s never that easy. Not everyone can mentally work out everything. I think some people can try and don’t go anywhere. I can tell a lot of them apart. I don’t think plastic surgery is sending any message like that  unlike what the media does. The media is to be blamed for a lot of things and human nature itself and wanting to be beautiful. I think that kind of mentality has always been with people. People back in the old days did other ways to be more beautiful for example, search the victorian era as it shows a lot of what I’m talking about. Whether if they had plastic surgery or not, they still tried to be beautiful due to society’s demands…it’s just that plastic surgery(in this day and age) gives the means to change themselves more readily. 

@thepsychoticraccoon@xanga - I’ve considered that too. 

@HeLLo_Bianca@xanga - I would still be friends with someone even if they did have plastic surgery. However, there is a difference between wearing makeup and getting surgery done. You can easily wipe makeup off with remover, whereas plastic surgery is expensive, permanent, and has risks. Why anyone would deliberately put themselves at risk in order to feel more beautiful instead of wearing makeup or pretty clothes is beyond me. But that’s their choice, not mine.

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Awesome, glad someone got it

I think you’re just jealous because you don’t have enough money to make yourself look the way you want to look.

I did get a nose job becus my nose was huge on my face.And I am a smaller girl. It looked like a potatoe on my face. ><

@theflowerstem@xanga - I would never be jealous of such a thing. Even if I had all of the money in the world, I still wouldn’t throw away money on unnecessary surgery that I don’t need. When I was younger, there were plenty of things I wanted to physically change about myself. But as I grew older, I learned to accept the way I was made and I embraced my physical appearance. Just because I disagree with cosmetic surgery does NOT qualify me as being jealous. I hate when people jump to those assumptions, “Oh, she hates people who do this…she must be jealous because she can’t do it.” It’s not like that at all. 

@AngelAsh_86@xanga - how could you be friends with them when you don’t respect them? that makes NO sense. 

Another mean post. Not that I’ve had plastic surgery I’m 16 and I am good without it I am infact insecure so I understand why some people would get it for their insecurities no thats not a healthy way of dealing with it sometimes but saying you have no respect for people who have and you have no idea why is very ignorant.

If it makes you happy, do it. Some people don’t feel like they look how they…feel? Like transgendered people. If they have a valid worry and are allowed to change their physical bodies to match what they feel like on the inside, how come other people can’t do that for the same reason?

If you honestly believe what you said here, you also don’t believe in make-up, or push-up bras, or high heels, or anything else made to change one’s appearance.

@Mangonese@xanga - augustlively@xanga - I will say this over and over again, I didn’t mean it in a sense that I don’t respect the person because a person should only be judged based off of their character. It was wrong for me to word it like I did because I didn’t mean it in that fashion. I disagree with the choice to do it. There are other safe alternative ways to deal with insecurities where you’re not only wasting money, but you’re putting your life at risk in case something goes wrong for something so completely unnecessary. It’s okay to put make up on or dye your hair because it’s a temporary change and in the end, you’re still in your own original skin. That’s ALL I’m trying to say. 

Yeah, you probably have no idea what it may feel like to have a feature define you rather than you defining your features.  I do want to get plastic surgery at some point, and a boob job for that – however, not an augmentation, but a reduction.  I’m an average-size woman (okay, maybe a little shorter than average) with 36DDD boobs.  It has a deteriorating effect on my health, as I could not do enough exercise to enable my back muscles to carry all that weight…  and it sure has a deteriorating effect on my psyche.  People keep asking me if they’re fake, or yet worse, they just assume it and treat me like how you’d treat someone who had plastic surgery.  Or they just don’t notice me for my achievements but for being the “little brunette with the epic tits”.  What if I just want to change that and become who I really am, behind/under the monstrous mammaries?

I see a hole in your argument.

What about make up and hair products and push up bras? When you’re wearing those, you are not embracing what you’re born with.

Also, there are very many deeper issues to explore here. What if someone was teased there whole life over a certain…very unnattractive(to theirselves) quality about thereselves? As well as appearing unnattractive to themselves aside from inner confidence? I would not judge them for getting a little tweak.

Everything is based on “looks”. This is why people want nice clothes, instead of old, sturdy ones. This is why people want nice cars, besides older, durable yet unnattractive one’s. This is why people are not happy living in a run down, old, decaying home…even though it’s nice and cozy with everything operating fine within it. Nothing’s wrong with wanting things to look nice in your eyes. Nothing’s wrong with liking beauty.

Not attacking, but just stating some things I thought of. Besides, you seem like a very pretty girl yourself, so beauty may not seem like an elusive goal that you’ll never quite seem to reach (not judging, I am just stating my opinion).

That’s just my 2 cents!

@how_x_loverly@xanga - I don’t even see why you care. It’s their life. If you don’t like the idea, don’t do it, but I still think it’s a little strange to go about saying you disagree with someone’s decision that doesn’t affect you.

W/e. To each their own.

Ummm… braces?  Most of the time those are purely cosmetic, and costly.  Did you ever have them?

depending.. I don’t think anyone who has a fake cup DD should be taken serious. What else than attention could you want with it? But somehow who goes from nothing/ a small a to a b or a c – cup I wouldn’t mind. I would like that myself too. And a nose job? why not. We live in a world where we judge EVERYONE on there looks; so people are insecure.
My boyfriend is a plastic surgeon (I have nothing done at my body) and it’s such a beautiful job, solely because of the reconstruction. I mean, look at this construction for women with breastcancer: http://diepflap.com/reconstruction-beforeafter.html

It’s so wonderful. Everyday he amazes me with new techniques& stories.

If you can afford it and are willing to take the risk of going through plastic surgery, then why not? It’s another way of enhancing one’s looks, just like getting hair extensions, or dying your hair, or putting on make-up. It’s more risky and expensive, but it’s still just a way to boost your confidence.
I think it’s a person’s own business if they decide to go through it because plastic surgery is not an easy process to go through.

It becomes a problem when plastic surgery becomes an addiction and looking like perfection is an obsession.

Otherwise, I actually commend those who decide to go under the knife, especially for that one cosmetic operation. It’s not easy to be labeled as superficial, especially when all you want to do is boost your confidence.

So while I maybe don’t agree that disrespect is the way to react to someone who had plastic surgery, I see where you’re coming from.
Cause I’m a huge believer in natural beauty. I wear makeup, but not a whole lot. Liquid liner, tinted moisturizer, mascara. The basics. I have a lot of issues with my body, as any other woman does, but I guess the difference is, I’m not running around trying to fix it. Sure, some days I’ll look in the mirror pinching at things I don’t like, on the verge of tears, because I wish it was different, but I think given the chance I would NEVER “fix” these things. At the end of the day, nobody else is weighing the little flaws you see as heavily as you are. Nobody else is really judging you based on them. I have a crooked nose, from breaking it as a child, and nobody’s looking at that and judging me as a person based upon the crookedness of my nose. I’m sure most people don’t even notice it. We are our own worst critics.

I mean… I can understand something like a transgender surgery, or something along those lines where you’re making yourself look the way you feel, but I don’t think nabbing inches off your waistline, sucking fat out of your body, injecting botox here here and here, and putting bags of saline in your breasts is relevant to that.

People should just learn to love themselves, because if you don’t love yourself, other people find it very difficult to love you.

@Mangonese@xanga - I don’t agree with plastic surgery just as I don’t agree with smoking, drugs, and excessive drinking. Sure, it’s not my body to do what with but I just don’t care for it, is my opinion. I’ll still respect the person for their character, but if I were asked for my opinion, I just would say I wouldn’t do it myself because I don’t like messing with what I was given. Cosmetic surgery has the ability to make you look worse than what you did originally. Sure, it might not happen often…but it can happen. Then where are you? Look at Michael Jackson and Heidi Montag, they were both EXTREMELY attractive before having anything done. Granted, Michael had a skin condition from the beginning which I still don’t know much about. but he kept having it done because he was insecure with his looks too…and instead, he just kept making it worse. I wouldn’t want to take that risk and waste all of that money just to get results that I am not satisfied with. I’d rather just stick to temporary changes like make-up because at the end of the day, I’m still in my original skin and I can always choose the option of changing my look without doing permanent damage that can’t easily be undone.

@LilysPearl@xanga - When I wrote the article, I meant to expand more on what I wrote but I couldn’t think of what more I had to say to make the issue more understanding, which is my fault. I shouldn’t have submitted it in such haste. But replying to pretty much all of the feedback, my stance on such things like make-up and push-up bras, I see them more as temporary changes which you can undo anytime of your choosing and have no affect on your health significantly. You’re not stuck with permanent changes you [God forbid] are not happy with. Because I’m involved in the arts, I’m bound to be creative with my own looks, but I’m still working with my original template of a body – I’m still me. I feel that if I made dramatic and permanent changes to my appearance, I wouldn’t be me. 

@baby_momo@xanga - Yes, I did have braces when I was in 5th grade. Not that I wouldn’t have chosen to get braces but that was more of my mom’s decision than mine because of the amount of teeth that I had. I had a total of 14 teeth pulled out when I was younger. I had a shark’s mouth, basically. But having braces is always going to get you a positive result and you typically don’t have to worry about having “Why did I ever get that done? I look horrible now,” feelings. I’m not trying to contradict myself, it’s just after reading and responding to all of the comments, I become more understanding of people and their reasons. I try to be more open-minded, basically. 

After reading and replying to most of the feedback, I have adjusted some of my viewpoints on plastic surgery overall. I still do standby my opinion of not having to get anything done if it’s absolutely unnecessary and that I disagree with people feeling that they have to change their outward appearance just to feel pretty. Granted, I DO know that other people have cosmetic surgery for things like breast reductions and the like, and that’s completely understandable. We all get insecure with our looks every once in awhile, it happens and we make ourselves feel better by applying make up and coloring our hair. I just prefer those temporary changes over doing something dramatic because I can change it anytime I want to without giving myself the chance to feel regret if I end up hating it in the long run. 

Title “I don’t respect anyone who has had plastic surgery.”

First line, “Now I don’t want to say I disrespect EVERYONE who has…”
Yes, you do. You just did in your title. And, upon discovering what a monumental hypocrite the author was, is where I stopped reading.

@not___enough@xanga - I didn’t mean to say “disrespect”. That was poor wording on my part but at least you get where I was going with this post. I should have clarified a lot more than I wrote.

@mrben@xanga - When I said that, the line was saying with “these exceptions”. Besides, “disagree” is what I meant to say, not “disrespect”. I wouldn’t consider myself a hypocrite. I just draw a line to where I think plastic surgery becomes absolutely unnecessary is all I was meaning. 

Okay, I just have to add this.

1. I think MOST people here could say that they have thought less of someone, after the person told them something they disagreed with.  One may not vocalize it to said person, but I’m pretty sure we’ve all done that. 

2. Comparing make up and hair dye to SURGERY is just…. stupid, to me. I mean, they are so dramatically different.

3. If you really were a hypocrite, you’d have had to have had cosmetic surgery yourself. I don’t know why people are calling you a hypocrite. Make up, after all, doesn’t have to be used to just cover up flaws. It can and is used to enhance natural beauty and it’s not as if they know you ALWAYS have to wear make up, either. Not all of us do wear make up, every day. Good lord, I don’t see how that compares to all the risk of going under the knife. (and I do personally believe to each their own. I mean, I don’t understand the appeal of surgery at all, but I don’t really care two shits if someone does do surgery. I kind of feel like I saw what you were trying to say. I still wouldn’t go through all the risks just to fit into some ideal of this that or the other thing.)

@Brilliant_Innocence@xanga - I wholeheartedly agree with EVERYTHING you just said. :]

I don’t care about what other people do to themselves or their bodies. It’s not my place. We all make adjustments to our appearances – the severity is the only difference. Do you disrespect people who’ve had braces? Do you disrespect people who wear make-up? Do you disrespect people who wear clothing that makes them look slimmer than they actually are? Do you disrespect people who wear shoes that make them look taller than they actually are? It’s all the same concept. Of course plastic surgery is more permanently altering than some of those other examples, but the logic behind them is the same. You’re trying to ‘better’ your appearance.

I do think that a lot of those measures are shallow, and I do think that it’s a bit vain to get cosmetic plastic surgery, and I would sort of question the person behind that. But who am I to talk? I had braces. I dress to look slimmer than I am. We all – for the most part – want to look good, whether it’s for ourselves or for others.

@HeLLo_Bianca@xanga -  I am friends with people whose decisions I don’t necessarily respect. One girl I went to school with had a drinking problem and another one was overweight and ate excessively. Do I respect those decisions? No. Was I still friends with those girls? Yes. I may not respect someone’s decision, but I feel you can still be cordial about it. Obviously our views are different regarding plastic surgery on healthy normal people. You can disrespect my opinion all you want; I just don’t understand why someone would purposely put themselves in harm’s way in order to feel better about how they look and risk having damage done. 

@flawedinsomniac@xanga - Again, I meant “disagree” not “disrespect”, first off. Second off, I’m all for bettering and enhancing your appearance when such drastic measures are NOT taken. Make up, hair dye, etc..those things are temporary and do no significant damage to your body or put your life at risk. Braces, I haven’t really thought of as cosmetic surgery because it’s just a normal everyday thing to me and insurance companies more often cover braces as opposed to cosmetic surgeries. Plus I don’t think braces are as expensive as most cosmetic procedures, but I could be wrong. Your life wouldn’t be at stake though with braces. 

@reloadthemetal@xanga - i didn’t need my breast implant.  only one of mine developed.  to a DD, the other was an A.  It wasn’t necessary but I got it done,  ill be disrespected for that? how ignorant. 

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Making yourself look the way you picture yourself looking in your head doesn’t have to involve surgical procedures. Maybe you want to change your hair, whiten or straighten your teeth, try a new clothing style you may not have money for. Those are just examples.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - I agree with you.

People who have cosmetic surgeries because they need to, such as cleft lip, unsymetrical eyes or something “obviously disturbing to see/ live with it”, that seriously affects one’s self-esteem to live a normal daily life, I would support that decision.

But if they have a plastic surgery just to enhance one’s beauty  to look sexier like a playboy star, well, I call them bitches, witches. Makeup is ok for me, but surgery is too extreme and I have no respect for crazy people like this. They will do everything to look beautiful, irrational monters.

How do I define a obviously disturbing facial or body feature that I find acceptable to have a cosmetic surgery varies. I can say this is unacceptable, while others can find it reasonable.

How do I define someone as crazy, someone’s action can be totally normal for you, and for me, it’s tragic. It varies.

I’m stating my opinion according to my values and my point of view. And I agree with reloadthemetal. If you guys out there hate me or my opinion, I don’t care. Because everyone has to right to think what they want. And undergo any surgery they want in their own body. Including vivisection if they enjoy, who cares?

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - your comment isn’t smarter.

@theflowerstem@xanga - I do well with what I have though. I’ll admit, I cared a LOT more abut my looks in the past than I do now. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that when it came to buying new things, my mother [or anyone really] never said no to me. Now that I’m living on my own and have to support myself, I have to use what I have and learn not to be so image obsessed. My current hair style? A mess but it somehow looks good that way. Whiten my teeth? I tend to rely on household materials and they work fine. Straighten? My teeth are straight thanks to braces when I was a kid. New clothing? As much as it KILLS me that I can’t buy as much as I used to, being a fashion major has taught me to be more creative with my already too-big-to-fit-anywhere-wardrobe. And even if I did have the money, the beauty of fashion is you have splurges and similar styles that are more affordable. You’d be getting a look for less. Sure, I would splurge on name brand items every once in awhile but ONLY if they’re not too simple for my tastes. I would never pay $1,625 for a holed up shirt in a million years. That’s just ridiculous to me. 

But those changes you mentioned to my appearance can pretty much all be changed at anytime and that’s the beauty of it. Why risk your life and waste a lot of money when you can just work with what you already have? You know? 

@din02243158@xanga - ….smarter? did i say it was? hahahahah dont talk to me.

Yeah well lets check back with you after you squeeze a few kiddos into that tiny body of yours and your skin is hanging off of you and you are unable to even SEE your junk so you can shave it (without having to lift up the pouch that is left). If you’re still singing that song I MAY have respect for what you said in this blog all those years ago.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - then stfu if you don’t have any smart thing to say lol

@MomGoneMadd@xanga - lmao. Who said I had a tiny body?? lol. There are PLENTY of women out there who have kept up on their body after giving birth to a kid or two. If I don’t choose to “let myself go”, I’ll still be able to have a decent body that was achieved through exercise and not surgery. It’s just up to me if I decide I want to keep up with my body. I’m not going to sit there saying, “Golly gee, I wish I could just have surgery to tighten myself back up.” I won’t be saying that if I knew there were other options [which are also safer and cheaper]. 

I disagree.. I mean, just because they had an unnecessary plastic surgery doesn’t mean they are insecure. Plastic surgery, to me, is a ticket to fixing your faults if your completely unhappy with it, and if you have the money. It does not show what kind of people they are or if they are insecure.. there is nothing wrong with trying to be perfect physically.

I don’t really care what other people do. I can understand wanting to change what you find ugly about yourself. What I don’t like about myself is due to bone disfigurement.. and that would be a little too painful to fix for me so I just kind of deal with it.

@din02243158@xanga - whatever cunt

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Ok well not everyone can have super model genes sweetheart. My children were 12 years apart in age and I didn’t just “let myself go”. I was sagging after an unexpected C section so I opted to have a tummy tuck and some liposuction and I’d do it again in the blinking of an eye (but would never have to because I’m not having anymore children). I live in So Cal and we’re terribly superficial here, who cares if you dont respect us. I’m surprised you’re going into fashion. Maybe when you get there you’ll realize it’s far more common than you think.

I see exactly where you are coming from, though I wouldn’t say I couldn’t respect someone just because they had plastic surgery. It would be wonderful if people would just come to accept themselves

@how_x_loverly@xanga - I get what you’re saying, it’s just that your post sounded so nasty, but I guess that was for the attention, I can see you preching work with what you’ve got, but some people have weak mindsets and can’t do that and nobody thinks that any of the risks associated with plastic surgery are going to happen to them so that’s why they go ahead and do it.

Also, some people WANT the permanent look.

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - you mean yourself

@XoxoAshleyElizabethXoXo@xanga - Read it again, and you’ll get the point

I love that you see the beauty in people.
I really do. We were not put on this earth to please people with our looks..

The title of this entry and the first line so contradict each other that your credibility is lost.

*sniffs* Is that jealousy your wearing?

@MomGoneMadd@xanga - First, I NEVER meant disrespect to ANYONE. I meant I DISAGREE with the decision of having it for absolutely unnecessary reasons. Secondly, I’m not even anywhere near to having children so I can’t say how my body will react after pregnancy but I will never get surgery to fix it unless absolutely necessary. I hate surgery enough to begin with, so I’d never voluntarily do it for something like, “I just want to look nice.” If my friends and family can accept me for who I am and what my appearance is, that is MORE than enough for me. And just because the fashion industry seemingly strives on looks more than appearance doesn’t necessarily mean I’m going to agree with everything they advertise. I’m an art student and I believe in being creative with your looks but I would NEVER EVER advertise or tell anyone that you need to be as gorgeous as a supermodel to make it in this world. I’m far from being that shallow. 

@theflowerstem@xanga - Yea, I didn’t mean for my post to sound nasty…but I guess it did. Like I said, it’s one of those situations where you say and mean one thing, but people take it as a COMPLETELY different message. Bottom line, I just meant I don’t agree with undergoing surgery for petty reasons. I get people want to look nice, we all do, I do. But I don’t believe in going to that extreme. But hey, everyone’s feelings on it are different. I was just putting mine out there and seeing what others’ were. 
@stonecoldquotes@xanga - Exactly. Thank you. There’s so much more to experience in life!
@SherylM@xanga - I can see how it does, but it’s suppose to say, “I disagree with plastic/cosmetic surgery but with exceptions like such and such…” because there are people who do get such surgery but it’s because they need it and their reasons are completely understandable. I technically had plastic surgery to get a big mole from my face removed a couple of years ago. I got teased for it endlessly as a child and when I heard that it could possibly be removed for cancerous reasons, I’ll admit, I was happy about it because then I could actually talk to people without feeling like they were paying more attention to a hairy mole than my conversation [It's happened on a date before]. Bottom line, my message in the post was to say “I disagree with plastic/cosmetic surgery for reasons that are completely unnecessary as if you just want to look nice. It’s different if you need something fixed for health reasons. Why waste money and put your life at risk if you just want to look nice? There’s more to worry about in life than just looking nice.” Make up, hair dye, etc…those are all temporary fixes and they put your life in no significant danger whatsoever and they’re cheaper! I just wouldn’t go to the extreme of surgery, that’s all.
@Miss_Skateboard_P@xanga - Why does disagreeing with something always have to be about jealousy? That’s far from what it is about. Maybe I just don’t believe in the waste of money and putting your life in danger JUST for the sake of looking nice. I just don’t understand why people would go to that extreme when there are plenty of safer alternatives. I just mean that I disagree with the decision to go through surgery for that reason. It’s not jealousy in the least. 

That’s absurd. I have had plastic surgery, and it made me able to book substantially more work as a model, and made me feel 100 times better about myself. It’s a small part of who I am, and hardly worth judging my entire worth and character over.

I don’t respect anyone that can’t mind their own business.

This is quite shallow and very holier-than-thou. I don’t respect people like you who stick their nose into others’ business and presume that we want or need your respect. If my nose job made me happy and confident, than it was the right thing to do. And I hate to break it to you, but appearance does matter in this world. If you look hideously ugly, things aren’t going to go nearly as well for you in life as they do for a pretty person. Just because you can’t accept that or don’t “respect” it doesn’t mean it’s not true. Also, I notice that you’re wearing make up in your profile picture. Why? Don’t you like yourself the way you are? Why are you trying to enhance what’s already fine? See? Anyone can be a judgmental bitch.

@LyricallyCharged@xanga - completely agree.

@reloadthemetal@xanga - “crooked teeth can interfere with your health, actually.”

yes. sometimes. not always. a ton of people all over western europe live normal healthy lives without straight teeth.
“i had braces in middle school; if i hadn’t worn them, my teeth would have spaced out like a motherfucker, worsening my clinical depression”
don’t mean to be rude and butt into your personal life but why would crooked teeth worsen your depression?
“depending on the person, they can need makeup, because they look like shit without it or because they have a scar or disfigurement which they want to cover up”
so if my nose looks ugly, I can’t get plastic surgery but if I’m ugly overall I can wear make up? What idiocy. 
care to explain your reasoning?

WHO CARES if someone wants to alter their looks? You may have your prefrences, but big deal, so what? You suppose people considering plastic surgery will read this and say,”OH NO! Some stranger is gonna like TOTALLY hate on me for changing my looks.”

That wont stop them…

Judging someone for plastic surgery is no different than judging someone for being fat or ugly or beautiful. Your are judging them for shallow reasons, superficial reasons. You know what else is “fake”? Make up and hair color… that alters your looks! Should people judge you for that?

Give me a break…

I see you’re wearing make up in your picture, you bloody hypocrite.

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Well damn, you sure are defensive about it XD

@bellXjarred@xanga - Make-up and surgery are two COMPLETELY different extremes. I’m not a hypocrite, I just don’t believe in going to the extreme of surgery when it’s not necessary. 

@Miss_Skateboard_P@xanga - Wellll I wasn’t trying to come off as defensive. I really was just clarifying my views on it, that’s all. I’m just trying to give everyone a response, despite how many times I need to repeat myself because I hate people making assumptions about my character because of my views on plastic surgery. 

I agree with you 100%!

@how_x_loverly@xanga - Honey, people are gonna make assumptions no matter what, just like you have about plastic surgery people. No point in trying to defend the inevitable.

@Miss_Skateboard_P@xanga - Yeaaa. Well we’re all judgmental at one point or another in our lives – especially when it comes with looks. But GEE, you make one observation about someone then suddenly everyone’s on your back about it. lol. But whatever. It is what it is. I just wanted to clarify before people are like, “OMGz she judges everyone based on their looks…how superficial and shallow of she!!” when I HONESTLY do not do that on a regular basis. I typically make an effort to get to know someone and judge them based on their character because that’s where it really counts. I think everyone is physically beautiful in their own unique way and I just really wanted to voice that message.

@Eglariel@xanga - I had jaw surgery, too. I inherited a terrible underbite from my dad that couldn’t be fixed by braces, and we think that’s what caused his crazy amount of food allergies- his teeth didn’t line up, and he was most likely not chewing food properly. The decision was made when i was 5 that I’d have the surgery during high school. By that time, my face looked pretty awkward. I had friends, but HATED having my picture taken. The surgery was an awful experience, but it was so worth it. I think I’m a much more successful person overall because I’m way more self confident.

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - i already have dd boobs so i know how it is
and heidi’s are h’s :/

@hunger_isbeautifulxx@xanga - I was typing in a rush, so what I meant to say about Heidi is that people who don’t know Heidi is an H, think that is what a DD looks like, why? because most people don’t know a darn thing about bra sizes.

@The_Tudor_Rose@xanga - very true. plus some girls can have the same bra sizes and their boobs not even look the same.  It depends on boob shape too (not trying to be creepy at all).

@hunger_isbeautifulxx@xanga - amen to that! My friend and I both wear 32C, but I get mistaken for an A or B and everyone thinks she is a D or DD. Boobs are a funny thing, that’s for sure!

@mirrorslie@xanga - booo its still a job on your NOSE I see nothing wrong with the fact she used the umbrella term ‘nose job’. relaxxx.

I get what this post is saying-getting plastic surgery just for appearances sake can make me feel sorry for the person, like ‘oh obviously you aren’t comfortable enough in your own skin even though you are so gorgeous just the way you are/were’. I know 2 girls who’ve had plastic surgery and they look great, are awesome girls-but, they really didn’t need it to begin with. One was getting their ears pinned the other was a boob job. Or is there a special term for boob job too? ;P

Ps. Though I also sympathise because many a time I’ve considered plastic surgery for myself! I don’t think I ever would though. I’m not a fan of unecessary pain and the $$$ could pay for so many fulfilling experiences, like travelling..

I wish it wasn’t so damn expensive!  But, to tell the truth, on some level, I think less of them.  I don’t like that I do, but I just do.

So do you not respect people who wear makeup?  Or dye their hair?  That’s changing your appearance.  And it seems to me from my profile picture you do both of those things.  Did you ever think that maybe these people ARE happy with themselves, they just want to be happier?  I know someone who freaking LOVES her body, but she wanted bigger boobs.  She got implants and is even happier than she was before.  I have huge boobs, 40DD, and I want a reduction because I can’t buy clothes that fit me, are you going to judge me?

I hope you realize that by bashing these women you are just as bad as those who call them ugly beforehand.  I would never ever ever want to associate with you in real life, you judgmental bitch.

then what about transvestites?

That’s a silly thing to not respect someone for. It’s not like they’re putting YOU at risk.
There’s more to a person than their insecurities. Not everyone was born with a perfect body, and some people can’t be satisfied with that. There’s one side of people saying “Just be happy the way you are.” and the other side saying “It’s okay to change that.” Really, if you were looking into a mirror every day at something you couldn’t stand, I wouldn’t respect you less for improving your self-image.

I had twins, and I plan on getting rid of all that extra skin hanging off of me, when I can afford it. Sometimes, people were born with things just as unfair. Just because you have an appearance that you can accept, doesn’t mean you should expect everyone else to.

I agree with you 100%

I pretty much agree with you on this. I find it odd that people are making comments that the OP is shallow when plastic surgery (if used for completely vain reasons) is shallow itself. I don’t necessarily lose all respect for a person because they’ve gotten plastic surgery; however, it does make me see them a bit differently. Why? Well, it’s like you said: they’re showing the world that they have no confidence with their looks. They can choose to not tell anybody about it for that reason. However, if they do tell people about it, they shouldn’t really expect anyone to say, “Oh wow, good for you!” It’s not exactly a fuckin’ accomplishment to pay thousands of dollars for titty enhancement or a straighter bridge. It’s kind of sad in my opinion. It’s not so much about respect as it is about that person’s perception of beauty. If they hate the way they look so much, then what must they think about everyone else who has a crooked nose or a flabby gut? What must they think of me, who by all means is pretty sometimes, but mostly flawed? Perhaps it’s not so much about what you think of the person who gets the surgery, but what you think of yourself after they’ve fixed whatever was “holding them back.” It makes you reflect on your own imperfections and your own body, much like when vulnerable young girls see a million advertisements a day that show them that being skinny is the “norm.” What do those girls do to attain those skinny bodies? They starve themselves. They binge and they purge and they do whatever it takes so they can look like the perfect models they see in magazines.

THAT is why I disagree with plastic surgery. It’s difficult to advocate loving yourself when there are girls who are willing to get cut open to change their looks. I realize that many people who get plastic surgeries say, “I’m still the same person.” And to an extent, I agree. But if you really think about it, they’re not necessarily who they were before. They sold themselves out for that which is only skin-deep.

P.S., to those of you saying, “What about when girls wear make up or dye their hair?” Those two things are barely in the same category. You’re nitpicking. We’re talking about shelling out cash to GET SURGERY IN ORDER TO ALTER YOUR LOOKS. These are PERMANENT changes. Make up and hair dye are trivial compared to that. You can actually use those things without having to bleed.

@recoveringforme@xanga - I honestly don’t think that she’s talking about breast reductions… just unnecessary enhancements. Reductions are different, since large breasts are difficult to carry around all day (I wear a 36DD myself) without getting horrible back pain. I mean, I’m sure you don’t want to get a breast reduction just so they’ll LOOK better. That’s what the OP is trying to get at – surgical procedures done purely for aesthetic purposes.

This is so stupid! What is it to YOU what people do with their body? Just because maybe they don’t have confidence, or they just want to look better, you’re automatically going to think they are not worth respecting? What a douche ! 

Seriously, I dislike people with you thought pattern… Who are we to judge what others do to their bodies? UGH.

I agree. I think that people who have plastic surgery for superficial reasons are not as genuine. 

1. We don’t choose the way we look before being born. Being born naturally beautiful, is the result of pure luck.
2. You only live once, and as the years go by you do not get any younger or healthier. Are you going to “settle” with whatever you are unhappy with?
3. Plastic surgery, if you go to a good surgeon, is not painful or horrific as they make it to be. Not even as risky, otherwise no one would get it.
4. If someone chooses to completely cancel someone based on one single criteria, then They are very simple minded and most smart people would not want to talk to someone like this, anyways.
5. Most people that hate on people who had plastic surgery (and look good because of it) are mostly jealous that they do not have the money to spend on it or they are LUCKY to be born naturally beautiful, therefore don’t need it.
6. All extremes are bad. If you obsess over plastic surgery, and you spend all your time looking for things to get rid of, or change in your appearance; then it will turn into an addiction.
7. Moderation is the key. Most people who really care about you (not jealous or close minded “friends”) and even some decent plastic surgeons, will be able to tell you what can really be improved, to make you look better, and what is really not noticeable and not worth the surgery.