So, in the latest Miley Cyrus scandal (how many have there been? oy), Miley was caught smoking the potent herb salvia out of a bong. But what is the stuff, anyway?
Salvia divonorum, though currently not banned in the U.S. under the controlled substances act, has been the target of several state laws. The plant, which is native to Mexico, produces LSD-type hallucinations in users who smoke it, or chew the leaves.
Immediately after taking the drug, users have reported the following effects:
- Uncontrollable laughter
- Past memories, such as revisiting places from childhood memory
- Sensations of motion, or being pulled or twisted by forces
- Visions of membranes, films and various two-dimensional surfaces
- Merging with or becoming objects
- Overlapping realities, such as the perception of being in several locations at once
Said one journalist, who took salvia as an experiment:
The salvia took me on a consciousness-expanding journey unlike any other I have ever experienced. My body felt disconnected from ‘me’ and objects and people appeared cartoonish, surreal and marvellous. Then, as suddenly as it had began, it was over. The visions vanished and I was back in my bedroom. I spoke to my ‘sitter’—the friend who was watching over me, as recommended on the packaging—but my mouth was awkward and clumsy. When I attempted to stand my coordination was off. Within a couple of minutes, however, I was fine and clear-headed, though dripping with sweat. The whole experience had lasted less than 5 minutes. (Gaia 2006-09-29 (UK Media))
While salvia is legal, it can be a scary experience for those who have “bad trips” on it, and many people who take it say it’s not a “party drug,” but rather a psychedelic journey for those who want to experience it. YouTube is full of salvia trip videos, if you want to see common reactions to the drug.
Yikes! I’ve never been a fan of drugs, and this stuff sounds scary, because who knows how you’ll react to it.
Have you ever seen anyone take salvia, Lovelies, or have you tried it yourselves?
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I had a co worker do this stuff that told me he became music.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
Salvia was a horrifying experience for me, and I’m never using it again. In fact it scared me away from ever doing any other drug again in my life. It made all my already-insane-like-a-David-Lynch-movie nightmares into a reality.
Can’t wait to see Miley do coke, which is bound to happen rather soon. It’s painful to see that the person recording the video was obviously doing it just to post it online.
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lol yes ive had friends do it, since the high or trip doesn’t last long, ppl only try it a few times. they sell it in venice beach right with the bongs, its really cheap
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I’ve known several people to use it as an alternative to marijuana. Drugs are drugs, though, IMO; banned or not.
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I’ve never tried it. quite frankly it sounds scary. I cannot handle not being in control.
even when drunk, i’m the most sober and clear headed drunk person.
magnolia / 1042 posts
i think i’ll pass. doesn’t sound worth it or even fun. drugs are lame anyways
orchid / 211 posts
I’ve never personally tried it. I’ve had friends who have tried it, though. To me hallucinogens are just too dangerous. I’d rather just smoke weed and know that I’m safe.
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I’ve done it a few times. Once I thought I was a HUGE leggo person and my house was made of leggos and was falling apart one leggo at a time.
It’s something that shouldn’t be done very often
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The way you describe it makes me wanna try it so badly now. Bad Jessica!
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Sounds… Scary. o.O
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Overrated.
I tried salvia when I was in college and my “trip” was a snoozefest. No pink elephants floating through the window, no screaming red devils coming up out of the carpet, no Salvador Dali-esque transformation of the living room. Just some very lucid thinking and a couple of random splashes of color. *yawn*
sunflower / 291 posts
It made me pee my pants, lol
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I did it the other night, it was a pretty nice experience. I just got SUPER giggly, but I didn’t take very big hits
daisy / 658 posts
im seeing online etailers of this drug having shitloads of orders coming from them since this story broke. one coming from me. never heard of this thing before. thanks jessica
lily / 5148 posts
@beebizzle@xanga - I agree
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I tried it twice in highschool when I used to do those sorts of things. I did it with two boys both times, and while they had a pretty trippy experience it didn’t do anything for me. It just made me kind of hot and uncomfortable. I’ve heard that it works with your bodies chemicals in different ways so each person may have a different experience. The times I’ve seen people do it, it hits you pretty quickly and is over pretty quickly even though that person feels like it has been a long time. I don’t really think miley was smoking salvia, but they just said that since it is legal and marijuana isn’t.
hydrangea / 77 posts
If I want any kind of trip, good or bad, I just go to sleep. Honestly, my dreams are freaky and super realistic. I have no need of drugs.
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@TequilaKisses@xanga - really? is it the terrifying hallucinations or the hot flashes you’re dying to experience? haha…i really DON’T want to do this ever, reading about it
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Salvia makes me laugh at everything and that’s about it.
daffodil / 1569 posts
@FreeYourFears@xanga - even pot scares me, because you don’t know what it could be laced with! one thing that’s always bothered me about the “coolness” of drugs is that, while you’re just smoking weed at a party or whatever, you’re actually contributing to a billion dollar drug “industry” that involves violence, international crime rings, environmental damage, illegal border trafficking, gang activities, human trafficking and prostitution. if you really think about where that pot you’re smoking came from, and how many people had to suffer for that dime bag or what not to make it to your hands, it’s really sad and scary.
I’m not preaching at you at all! just your mention of pot made me think about all this in general
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I love salvia, and I love that it’s legal in my state, but it is certainly not a party drug.
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@mikahP@xanga - you aren’t holding it in long enough, or you’re not heating it up hot enough.. Do you use a torch lighter? Cause smoking it in joint form won’t work at all.
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It’s actually used in rituals in the Central and South Americas, where it grows in abundance. It’s ignorant to say it produces LSD type affects, because it doesn’t.
It is mind altering, but it’s not a rave drug like LSD. I just did research on this drug yesterday because I came across it on the interwebs, and went “Huh, I should look this up” because I had no idea what salvia really is. It’s a psychoactive plant which can induce dissociative effects. It’s a sense of a reality strobe, or a reality “stutter”. 23% of users said it’s like being in yoga, or in a trance. It’s like a really strong cannabis.
LSD, on the other hand, is a semisynthetic psychodelic drug. In LSD users can expect radiant colors, objects and surfaces appearing to ripple or “breathe” as they go through their ‘trip’. In Salvia they are more likely to come across uncontrollable laughter and memories, a sense of being pulled by forces. An altered sense of time is common in LSD, not so common in Salvia. LSD can last up to 16 hours, while Salvia is a short 5 minutes (short in time, not to the user).
Yes, it is bad, but it’s actually illegal in some states, with California making it illegal to sell to minors. It’s banned in states like Florida and North Dakota, among others. LSD is banned everywhere in the US. I think that’s a good thing, but people still manufacture it, while people still grow Salvia. They do recommend a “sitter” for first timers of Salvia, that way they don’t hurt themselves or others while on their trip. Besides smoking or ingesting, Salvia can be administered through a tincture. Salvia is like a calm LSD, while LSD is just crazy. =/
Both drugs are bad, definitely. I’ll never do them. =)
All sources : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum#After-effects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide#Psychological
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Hmm…I haven’t, but I can’t say I’m not curious.
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@LEW_for_Life@xanga - One of my salvia trips involved me being cooked under cafeteria heating lamps (my kitchen ceiling lights), my den turning into a farm with a barn and grass and animals, and me morphing into my couch, I don’t understand how you can make all of these statements without ever having done it.
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I’m not making statements, I’m quoting and using other people’s trips as my sources. I’ve heard of it, I know what it does, which is what keeps away from it. From what I’ve learned it’s not as dangerous as other trips, but it’s still pretty dangerous. One account I read was when a trip made the user try to jump off a bridge to save the world. =/
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@TrishaJustTrisha@xanga - Yup, I use a torch. I also use a glass pipe. It probably didn’t work because I usually smoke pot before… That’s probably not the best thing to do.
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god damn! i gotta get some of this before its illegal
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I like trying new thing, especially when it comes to drugs
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I did salvia once and I thought I was a spider. Apparently I was crouched down to the ground, walking around backwards…and laughing uncontrollably. It only lasted for a couple of minutes. We didn’t buy the strong stuff.
It was fun, but I definitely wouldn’t do it again.
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Saw this when I woke up this morning, and totally posted it on facebook. That was the happiest salvia trip I had ever seen.
rose / 807 posts
I got stuck in a loop during my first salvia trip. Colors were everywhere and my friends kept telling me “It’s supposed to be this way, you’re on salvia.” It was pretty cool because we researched it, did yoga beforehand, were in a quiet place and was with my best girlfriends. All of these created a positive experience.
We don’t do it anymore because it is hard to purchase around here. I actually had a nice positive experience.
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Haha I like Miley so much more now, just putting that out there.
Girl filming was a bitch.
I don’t think I wanna try salvia since I’ve had a bad trip on weed before. But still sounds fun.
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I already trip out when I’m sober due to my overactive imagination. I would rather spend my money on cute shoes so my anti drug is shoes^_^
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It made me laugh at the mice jumping from foot to foot and tying my shoe laces while the carnival music played in the background
even though I was scared. Felt like I was glued to the cement for an hour but it was only 2 minutes or so.
pretty interesting. It’s like a horror movie. Do it. Don’t do it. Or STFU.
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the trip is too short, and too expensive! but hey, i’ll smoke salvia with miley any day
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now i have to try it.
sunflower / 389 posts
I’d try it, if I had the chance to, and didn’t have to pay for it.
From what I’ve heard, it usually does nothing. If you get the good stuff, it’s a trip and a half, but they all say the same thing: a high that short isn’t worth the money.
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My ex boyfriend was really into it and used it a lot. He has become big into drugs though.. I don’t like hallucinogens so no, I would never use it.
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drugs are drugs. legal or not. shouldn’t be playing around with it..
orchid / 123 posts
I’ve always been surprised that this stuff is still considered legal. I saw a few people take it a couple years ago and it freaked me out. One of them ended up bawling and another one ended up taking his clothes off because he was sweating so much. Also, he was terrified while on it, saying that the world around him was becoming two dimensional and he became the couch he was sitting on. Needless to say, they all were really freaked out by the experience.
The other thing that is so freaky about it is the intensity of it considering it is such a short experience- it seems like a couple minutes of absolute terror (which is why it is recommended that the person who takes it has a sitter) and then as soon as it has started, it is over. Eek.
orchid / 123 posts
@tainted_beautiful@xanga - no kidding. the people that i have seen take salvia were anything but as happy as miley during the experience. they pretty much just seemed scared out of their minds.
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Tried it once, but the only thing that happened was I couldn’t stop laughing for a few minutes.
It’s definitely not worth the price though.
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@Jessica - and the clothes you buy at the mall are made by little children in China.
We all can’t be saints.
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@Jessica - Go local. (:
Hahah, I live in the North Bay.
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I have friends that have done Salvia. Never have I tried it but I want to.
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Salvia is so much more likely to induce a bad trip than many of the other illegal drugs, its ridiculous. In fact, from reading forums and checking out what people say, it seems most people only use it a handful of times before have some weird bad trip and then quitting (I’ve heard around 3, sounds about right).
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@Jessica - i smoke pot but its all ok, i kno who grows it and where it comesfrom and its all ok, no violence, tis a very peaceful hippy thing
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No, I have never smoked this stuff. I heard about Salvia a few months ago. I am not surprised that Miley was smoking Salvia. Away from the bright lights of Disney, she is a typical young girl willing to engage in risky behavior.
orchid / 160 posts
Since you guys are so obsessed with what Miley Cyrus is smoking, that means you’ll right to your congressman to support marijuana legalization so that you can see her smoking more shit, amiright?? else, GTFO.
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its so boring. been there done that.
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I don’t use drugs. But from the way it’s been described to me, it would be a major waste of tax dollars to illegalize it.
Most people trip really badly for something as short as three minutes, then it’s over.
orchid / 211 posts
@Jessica - Oh, I completely agree with you. Anyone who tries it should be extremely careful where they get it and should know where and how it was processed, in my opinion.
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@onlyFORaLILwhile@xanga - we should be just as vigilant about where we buy our clothes from, too!
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@Jessica - thats another reason why they should legalize it. it will reduce all the things on the list you just mentioned
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Drugs have never done anyone any good, IMO, and believe me, I’ve seen first hand what it can do to people from the time I was a little girl. Let’s just say drugs ruined my parents’ lives, causing it to ruin mine so far.
sunflower / 264 posts
Lol I read it as saliva
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drug of choice? she couldnt even light the bong. it was obviously the first time she ever used it.
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A few years ago, I watched YouTube videos of people on Salvia. It was unbelievable.
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@Jessica - people are pretty vigilant about where they buy their marijuana. No violence involved, no prostitution, or child labor, unlike the purse you carry around.
I buy my marijuana home grown in the great USA. Support our economy not other countries!
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I’ve heard about this stuff, and I’m told its extremely cheap… but like most drugs similar to this its proven they can screw with you physcologically in the future.
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I’ve never tried it due to the fact that it is illegal in my state and I was never given the opportunity. I have benadryl tripped and done LSD before so salvia seems like a cakewalk.
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no thankyou.
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So c’mon people. She’s a teenager, and I figure she should be able to act like one. So what if she’s doing these things? She’s not actually breaking a law. I think she should be cut some slack. Actually I think it sounds like a pretty interesting drug. Though I am quite curious as to why it’s not illegal.
sunflower / 320 posts
No, I don’t need to. The drug addict in the hospital said I was a drug addict. I don’t do drugs, but I get the same reaction. The government seems to be on a secret mission to stop me instead of out to get me, though they sometimes are or were. My main problems are that I’m so deep that I drown other people. My psychosis has blown me out of the world.
sunflower / 320 posts
I’ve had an array of experiences from seeing things, hearing things, smelling and tasting then knowing my thoughts in 4D. One time when I was going, the things in the room were floating. A blood pressure machine turned into a robot. I’ve heard myself crawling along the floor. I’ve gone into a door and into a light. My syntax was ripped apart, and basic words became difficult for me to understand. I’ve almost killed myself multiple times, and i wish that the government was visible because when they’re like that, I fight them.
sunflower / 320 posts
I can’t process visual information as well or see most optical illusions.
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yeahhh. it’s pretty… messed up.
It makes you roll, piss your pants, ect..
not fun.
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all my friends that have smoked it all had bad trips so i would never… the worst of them all was that my friend thought he was “the end of the world” and tried jumping off a bridge to save the world..we thought he was kidding until he hopped out of the car and started running…good thing we caught him!!
yeah never will i try it.
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OBVIOUSLY miley wasn’t smoking salvia. She was smoking weed out of a bong and got caught. cover up? salvia. its legal. stop being dumbasses. its nothing to post about. its WEED. big fucking deal..
i’m californian. it explains a lot
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I know a katrillion people who have tried salvia.
I was going to since they used to sell it in the headshops
over here, but then I think florida made it illegal -___-
oh well, i’ve heard crazy stories!
only lasts 15 minutes
and just because miley cyrus is a completely normal 18 year old girl,
doesnt mean that salvia is her “drug of choice”
that’s stupid.
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It is the worst drug on Earth. Just eat mushrooms; you won’t be sorry!
magnolia / 1017 posts
Haven’t even heard of it. o.o That’s cool I guess. I dunno if I wanna try it, I’d rather smoke weed.
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I’ve never actually seen someone take it, but I’ve heard plenty of stories. A lot of what people have told me involves what you listed; sensations of being twisted, merging with objects and overlapping realities. Aside from what you listed though, one of my friends also said that he thought he was going down a tunnel of smiley faces, which is funny, I admit.
Not all of it was good though, I’ve also heard more than a handful of horror stories. One of my friends said that she thought someone was following her and looking at her through all the windows of her house and, according to her, it was terrifying. She just cried and screamed for the entire trip. That’s only one example.
I, myself, have never smoked it though and I don’t intend too. I’ve heard too many negative things.
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If you’re going to do Salvia, don’t. It’s the worst and scariest thing ever. Do shrooms or acid or x instead.
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This makes me want to try it.
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If drugs were legal then the problems that arise from illegal drug trade would not exist. I’m gonna go ahead and say that I think that corporate greed and globalization is destroying our world at a more alarming rate than drugs could ever hope to. Drug TRAFFICKING is a problem, absolutely, but not necessarily drugs. Sex trafficking exists too, doesn’t mean sex is inherently bad.
Drugs have positive and negative effects on us, and as a society that recognizes this we should be responding appropriately to the problems that arise. Criminalizing addicts and recreational users is NOT a solution. It only adds to and perpetuates the problems.
If you haven’t experienced any kind of drug then your opinion about what drugs themselves are like is irrelevant. Again, would you ask a virgin what sex feels like? Now I’m just rambling
No offense to anyone, we all have the ability and therefore the right to think what we please.
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i did salvia a couple of times. ive only had one bad experience on it. i smoked a stronger version than i was used to and the trip was so hardcore. i hallucinated that a man was standing behind me in a detective trenchcoat and a hat but he was a bad man and i ran from my friends vehicle laughing crying and drooling. lmao salvia makes me salivate hardcore. but mostly i just enjoy it. i think the best time ever was at night and i envisioned it was sunny out and that my friends van was a mini school bus and there were many children with us just singing this happy song. weird. man weird.
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@TheSecretLifeofBeebee@xanga - me too
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All I can say is hell no, That doesn’t sound at all good.
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I did it once with my boyfriend and his friend. It took awhile for it to kick in then all of a sudden I fell to the floor by my boyfriends feet, looking up and started crying because I thought I was in a deep hole in the ground. I was pulling on my boyfriends pants (as if they were the dirt walls in the hole) trying to climb out of the hole. It was scary shit! And my boyfriend did it outside and he thought his body was dispersing and becoming the wind! So crazy! haha
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@mikahP@xanga - was it raw dried salvia or something that comes in a small container called 5x, 10x, 40x, etc? Because straight up dried salvia leaves take a LOT to get anything out of it. But with the 10x it takes like 1/3 of a bowl to trip (for me)
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I’ve had it before. It’s one hard trip, but it only lasts about ten seconds. the fun part is after it’s over when you’re like, “whoah, what the f*ck just happened???”
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I’ve done it a handful of times, none were too amazing. None scary, none worth telling about…just a few steps above being very drunk and/or high.
sunflower / 300 posts
i’ve done it. it was a positive experience. i remember laughing a lot, also feeling like i was in another dimension. my trip probably lasted about 15 min, but it felt like an hour. i also remember yelling at my friend for looking at me, when he definitely wasn’t :p
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My cousin did it in front of me. The thing that is attractive about it is that it only lasts for about 10 minutes and is legal and easily attained(and is cheap in local corner stores).
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Drugs are fun.
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…they have videos of it on youtube?
Oy.
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i’m neutral on the subject. i’ve never done any sort of hallucinogenic but i feel like the gamble between a nightmare experience/funny experience is not worth it.
daisy / 557 posts
i’m not sure what’s more frightening, the descriptions of some people’s personal experience of the drug or the fact that people are saying, “it’s bad, just do X” O.O
now, I like weed and drinking, neither of which i do in excess. but hard drugs are not my idea of a good time. this is too much for me lmao
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my exboyfriend did salvia once. he laced his weed with it. he said it was fun for five minutes and then boring again.
when i was with him, i used to smoke pot a lot, but i hated every minute of being high. all i wanted to do was sleep but i couldnt because my lungs were on fire and my head was spinning. i never could get to that fun, functional high were you just laugh and do crazy things. after one hit i’m too high.
so no more drugs for me. except for alcohol of course! haha<3
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Never tried it, never would. It’s just stupid to do in my opinion.
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I HAVE A WHOLE NEW RESPECT FOR MILEY. I HOPE HER NEXT ALBUM IS A REGGAE ALBUM. STAYING BLAZED MILEY!
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I tried that stuff once. My review: Utter crap.
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you’re supposed to take it in a dark quiet place with a spotter to remind you it’s salvia, it’s not real. and the laughing happens for people the first couple times, but after that it’s more of an internal thing.
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I’ve done it, my trip lasted about 10-15 minutes (according to the friend who was watching). It’s actually really awesome, just not something I think I’ll do ever again.
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I took it once with a friend of mine. She was freaking out and seeing stuff all over the place. Me… well, I guess I need harder stuff because I didn’t even feel anything.
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It’s not scary, because even if you have a bad trip, it only lasted 5 minutes. Not much at stake.
Now – bad LSD trip. That could last for 12 hours. There’s your scary.
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When I did it, I wasn’t effected very strongly at all, felt a slight pulling {like the wall I was leaning on had a very small gravitational pull,} and ish overlapping realities. Of course my watcher took Watching to a whole new level, I was clinging to reality with everything I had, as I was made uncomfortable by being stared avidly at.
I’d certainly try it again, and do things differently. If it didn’t go against everything I believe when it comes to trying drugs Made to make you hallucinate, I would do it alone, but of course that’s not smart. Rather I’d opt for someone that would make sure I was Okay, but otherwise pay me no attention.
Salvia is something I researched a Lot before trying, while there Are people that have bad experiences with the stuff, it is supposed to be a Spiritual {so to speak,} experience, and is known to induce happiness; it’s burned as an incense for just that purpose.
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upon watching the video, it makes me happy that she was listening to the Eagles :p
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I tried it once in highschool, I remember smoking it and looking out the front door, my friends wiener dog was walking past the glass door and he was stretching really long like in a cartoon, he turned to me and said Chad the phones ringing. I turned my head away and it was over, my friend was staring at me asking if I was okay because I kept asking who was calling. Havent tried it since, feels to real.
sunflower / 464 posts
Sounds interesting.
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I have enough hallucinations just going to sleep.
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some people have WAR in their country and THIS is what you care about?! You’re such a superficial space cadet. Don’t you have anything better to do than showcase what a mentally arrested shallow airhead you are?! It wouldn’t be such a big deal if people like you didn’t give a shit.
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@TheSecretLifeofBeebee@xanga - Me too. Never did anything mind-altering in my life, and never will. My dreams are so much fun the way I am now, and I wouldn’t want to change it
@Jessica - I never thought about that view as a reason not to do weed. I have always made arguments that weed is bad with medial references to back me up, but knowing that some gang member might have been shot and killed while trying to make his money is sad, and buying drugs that go through stories of violence and stuff like that is, in my opinion, is awful.
Even if I knew there was no terrible story behind it, I could never get myself to “experiment” with anything. I must be a mutant or something, because even though yeah, there’s stuff I would love to try, I just won’t. I’m missing that “do” mechanism.
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My cousin tried Salvia & she basically said the same thing as the journalist. She said it’s over very fast. I might be tempted to try it. I’m not big on weed (which is what it looks like) & I haven’t experimented with any other drugs so I don’t really know.
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@IrresistibleInsomnia@xanga - Nice