Editor’s Note: this posts comes in response to another, My Rant about Ugly People.
First off, I’d like to let you know “pretty” people are losers. Honestly the REAL pretty people I know aren’t busy worrying about their own and other peoples’ appearances. They’re confident in their LIFE and don’t consider their pretty face a “necessity” for getting a job, lover, social life.
Honestly, I think most people who see so much “value” in being “pretty” only see it that way because they think they’re ugly.
I think it’s ironic, and self defeating. In all these years of struggling with body image I’ve come to terms with the fact that people who are just happy to be in the picture are much more attractive than people who obviously spent too much time on their make up that day. I am guilty of that. I’m a hard worker and I keep pushing, even when it comes to my cute little face.
Five minutes ago I was whining about how little effort I put into my appearance, how I could look better. I do have standards, and opinions. I try to have respect, and innocence. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels that way. When it comes down to it NOBODY is perfect, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, and what you personally may see as “ugly” may be the most gorgeous thing in the world, maybe your taste is ugly.
lets get started…
“there is no way to change a person’s bone structure or bra size or other permanent, genetically predisposed things of that nature”
Why would you want to do that? why are people so determined to completely alter the reflection nature gave their mirror. Is it really so harmful to have a unique physical beauty? Sure, boob jobs are nice, so are nose jobs in my opinion, but are they really that detrimental to someones existence? I have a weird face damn it, I could give a crap if YOU think it’s beautiful, I was born with this body, and if nobody will love me for the face I have, then I don’t want to be loved.
“However, there are lots of things people can do to make themselves more attractive.”
o rly? like having this BS idea that being “pretty” will somehow make you seem like a better person? Like it will compensate for your attitude or your feelings? NOTHING can replace the vibe you give off to other people, body language speaks much, MUCH louder than concealer and spanx.
Not to mention, it doesn’t matter how much make-up you pile onto that ‘ugly’ face of yours, WE CAN ALL STILL SEE THAT YOU KNOW YOU’RE UGLY. Seriously, I can smell an insecure girl from a mile away and I’m one of them. Every glance you give someone emulates “I thought I was ugly so I threw on some concealer this morning” EVEN if you’re barely wearing anything. Actually, I look for the makeup on people with that vibe, it’s usually there.
OH, and I wear makeup because I think it makes me beautiful. I don’t slap it on so other ass-clowns find me mildly attractive. Honestly, if more people did what they themselves thought was pretty, the world would be a much more interesting place.
“The most obvious is sexual reproduction. Let’s go on the basis of evolution, which I think isn’t necessarily exclusive from creation. Why, when a man is looking for a mate, would he (scientifically) be attracted to a woman with larger breasts? It’s because large breasts are a traditional sign of fertility. They show that a woman can feed her children”
For years women with small perky breasts were considered attractive. This is cultural, not based on evolution.
I’d just like to let everyone know that I am a 28A, and I believe in love.
The boys love me, Honestly I have no problem finding a cute boy to bang, and even better, I have actual relationships, and I can guarantee to you that the LAST thing on my boyfriends mind was me feeding “their children”. I think one way of showing them that I could feed these imaginary children is making sure they know I have a brain, and a heart.
“Another reason for attractiveness is that it shows us qualities we’re looking for, be it in a mate, a friend, or a potential employee.”
Actually, people tell me because I am such a girly girl they originally thought that I was stupid. Most of my friends now said that when they first saw me they thought I was “stuck-up” or shallow and my “mate” never get’s what the big deal is between my morning face and my hungover face. Not to mention most of my parents friends, “employers” hire people based on how easy they are to be around and less on their appearance or skill. They want someone with a good attitude and outlook on life.
“People who put effort into their physical appearance show, not necessarily that they’re shallow, but that they have self respect and are willing to work hard.”
I think i’m just going to stop trying so hard, right now, and stop feeding into the vain, idealistic opinions of insecurity. I’d rather be ugly just in spite of someone with this opinion just to extort their ridiculous, crippling, ideas that they support in the society that I live in.
Lastly, were any of these quotes aimed at anyone but women in particular? THANK YOU for giving me yet another standard that I don’t want to live up to. I’ve realized I am way over, and way past conventional beauty. I’d rather die penniless and full of life and emotion than overwhelmed by the weight other ugly people have put a top me. I can’t decide if the problem is ignorance, or attitude, or arrogance. But I want to thank the person who supplied me with these wonderful quotes, because they’ve made me realize that there are things that are worth way more than physical beauty.
I don’t care if you’re fat, or ugly, or stupid, as long as I can tolerate you and if i’m going to be PRETTY, I’m going to actually be a beautiful person, and I’m going to make sure I’m enjoying my life to the fullest with those manicured nails and implants.
Take what life gives you, and love it first, then you can truly be a pretty person. Otherwise you’re just some petty, critical, wanna be who has poor opinions on the people around them and isn’t fun to be around.
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sorry, i dont really understand your point.
u mean, u dont like pretty people? or u dont like people put on makeup?
is really confusing.
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After reading this, I no longer feel the need to try to starve myself anymore. I’m not joking. I’m being serious. Why suffer? For shallow bitches like her to think that I put effort into myself? Nah, I can do that without hurting myself to fit into THEIR expectations of what I should be. The one person who needs to be happy with me is ME. If on one else likes me, fuck it. They can kiss my fat ass, as Tyra would say. Haha.
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This made my day.
I love it when a piece like this rises out of ridiculousness.
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mmmm , sorry for being naturally pretty .
i don`t spend much time on myself . really . not my damn fault . sorry that you`re ugly .
& i think you`re talking about MODELS specifically , not pretty people in general .
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Momo_Wakahisa@xanga - YES! ^-^ you need to be pretty for you (:
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@JoyElizabeth82@xanga - dude…a paragraph under that I say I do the same thing…
and it’s a response…
readreadreadread
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I get judged as being a ~pretty girl at first glance on occasion. Then people get to know me and realize I don’t own makeup and I own more basketball shorts than jeans. It’s a good feeling when I finally get judged for more than my face (and body.)
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@nylondare@xanga - it’s a response post…. and I am NOT talking about models, I’m talking about people that value the quality of their lives on their appearance above all else. TONS of people are naturally beautiful without makeup.
Besides I’m not saying you run around calling people ugly?
orchid / 177 posts
“Seriously, I can smell an insecure girl from a mile away and I’m one of them. Every glance you give someone emulates “I thought I was ugly so I threw on some concealer this morning” EVEN if you’re barely wearing anything. Actually, I look for the makeup on people with that vibe, it’s usually there.” WTF? I wear makeup because I love it. And why are you looking for insecure people? To point them out and think…”Yay! look how insecure they are”. Seems judgemental.
“Take what life gives you, and love it first, then you can truly be a pretty person. Otherwise you’re just some petty, critical, wanna be who has poor opinions on the people around them and isn’t fun to be around.” Petty and critical are what this post are. Not fun at all. Although I do agree with loving the original piece not only the made-over version.
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Haha this is the perfect complement to the rant about ugly people. And for the people that don’t understand, read BOTH articles before you leave rude or incredibly vain (but funny…) comments.
Thank you uncagedbirds@xanga.com!
orchid / 177 posts
@uncagedbirds@xanga - you said it in the line I c&p’ed. Read read read.
I guess I am confused as to your point here. It’s kind of all over the place. Guess that’s why it’s called a rant.
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appearance IS important. if you look like ugly shit for your interview, i can guarantee you that you wont get hired. companies want their employees to reflect their company. they want someone who looks professional, neat, and clean… and that doesnt come naturally.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@JoyElizabeth82@xanga - it is a rant, and it’s a response, and here
“OH, and I wear makeup because I think it makes me beautiful. I don’t slap it on so other ass-clowns find me mildly attractive. Honestly, if more people did what they themselves thought was pretty, the world would be a much more interesting place.”
I don’t have to look for insecure people, some people just emulate it.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@kayteeiiee@xanga - agreed
but most people in that environment learn to adapt to that
if you’re a professional you should have the common sense not to walk into an interview wearing sweats
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@PUMPKiN_ERiCA@xanga - I agree. They need to read the other post before saying that she’s being petty or whatever else they’re accusing her of.
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@kayteeiiee@xanga - You can look neat and clean without being skinny and wearing makeup. I went to my job interview for my current job weighing 165 pounds and not a lick of makeup. My current employers were so impressed with my interview that I was offered the job right on the spot.
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I like this post. The last post was simply the author’s justification of being shallow and basing everyone off of what they wear.
Too bad not everyone else understands the post.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
I’m considered pretty by most but I never wear makeup (only on special occasions; I’m always in too much of a rush to put makeup on) and never put anything on my hair. But having the “pretty” label makes people think I’m stupid and naïve as well…
I think people just are kind of fed up by “fake beauty” that they become appreciative of natural girls.
Anyway, I read the original post (the rant about ugly people), and it made me understand where you’re coming from. And I agree with you. I think the other post was… ignorant.
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - hehehe that is very true! i guess it’s not really related to being pretty…but when i think “pretty”, i also think about being clean & not messy-looking,,,so just adding it in there
@Momo_Wakahisa@xanga - you are pretty in the eyes of your interviewer
orchid / 177 posts
@PUMPKiN_ERiCA@xanga - I read the other article. It’s bad too.
I hate all this “I’m pretty and bioligically better than you” vs. the “I may be ugly but I’m a better person than you” controversy. It’s still an I’m better than you because of __(fill in the blank)_______ competition.
What about, “”Hey, I’m neither. I’m ugly and I have a bad personality. So fuck everybody.” ? Because right now that’s looking better than a soap box.
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im just gonna say it right now.
you’re trying to say you dont like materialistic people who cant survive withouit makeup and would be nothing without it.
but what you ended up communicating is that you’re just jealous of people who have good features…
A+(intense sarcasm)
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this is the most bipolar entry i have ever read, one minute you say your insecure and the next you say you can easily find a cute boy to bang like wtf dude
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@JoyElizabeth82@xanga - @Rachael_thephatness@xanga -
well, that’s not the point I was trying to make
I DON’T CARE what you look like, and I DON’T CARE if I have makeup on
honestly, It’s like playing dress up with me
I am just sick of people thinking they can tell other people how to look.
for some reason people like to control EVERYTHING around them
I don’t think it’s going to kill you if the person next to you didn’t get all dolled up to pass you by.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@xthin_ambitions@xanga - i’m insecure, and people want to fuck me
impossible?
orchid / 177 posts
@uncagedbirds@xanga - I concur. Pretty is as pretty does.
And I’d like to fuck you(j/k). Hell, I don’t know anyone who isn’t just a little insecure. And if they’re not, maybe they should be.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - awe I think you’re pretty ^-^
I don’t think beauty is that important anymore….it’s not going to kill you to be ugly
I just think it’s wrong to treat others poorly because of how ‘put together’ they seem to you
I was just reallllly mad when I wrote this lol
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@kayteeiiee@xanga - You’re too nice. Your kindness makes you beautiful in the eyes of everyone you meet. :3
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - Just so you know, this response made me fall more in love with you.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@JoyElizabeth82@xanga - lolz do my breastises show you that I can care for your children???? ;P
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Momo_Wakahisa@xanga - @PUMPKiN_ERiCA@xanga - thank you so much ^-^ I sense much more negative feedback, which is understandable, I was pissed when I wrote this xD
@kayteeiiee@xanga - yea, I completely agree ^-^ being clean is nice haha but if I want to tie my hair back and wear a t-shirt i’m going to and if you don’t like it you can bemad
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Momo_Wakahisa@xanga - lets get married
you know what they say…put a rang on it?
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - *Gets down on one knee and pulls out a ring pop- Oh, I want to put a rang on it. XD
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mmmhhmm and there are those pretty people who dont even try and are like that naturally.. making your general statement of pretty people being losers very invalid. its shame you even subjected to responding to that-_-
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@JoyElizabeth82@xanga - <33333333333333333333333
orchid / 177 posts
@sskinnyymuchh@xanga - I’m sorry, what does that mean? Are those lots of little boobs?
orchid / 123 posts
@diannisforever@xanga - pretty was in quotations
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@JoyElizabeth82@xanga -that means i love what you said. it is a heart. <3
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@strictlyskinny@xanga - and those that try shouldnt be called losers either.
orchid / 177 posts
@sskinnyymuchh@xanga - Lmao. I’m a tard sometimes ; )
Thanks, by the way.
orchid / 123 posts
@diannisforever@xanga - those that try to put other people down for not being ‘pretty’ should be
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - well amazingly enough thats not the point you made, a post saying “im sick of people telling others how to look” would suffice i believe, for that.
sooooo yeahhh…
nobody’s trying to control you.
and no it wont kill me but ill probably be more pleased if they made some kind of atempt not to look like total trash that morning, and by that i dont mean piled on the make up or abused their hair to its wits end, i mean took a god-damned shower and maybe wore some deodorant.
thats all im asking.
it seems like YOU’RE the one trying to control everyone around you.
“First off, I’d like to let you know “pretty” people are losers.”
and would you like to tell me where the fuck you get off saying that??!
im one of those “pretty” people!
i was born with very nice features great skin(without makeup) a great body nice hair ect.
and ive had very minimal complaints about my attitude.
so hmm would you look at that im gorgeous and im nice too.
there’s this thing called projection. which is bassically when someone who is insecure or thinks badly about themselves tries to place their own insecurities on someone else because it will make them feel better.
so what im saying by that is you’re probably very insecure and jealous of alot of people who are “pretty” .
also your deffinition of “pretty” is very off base. “Pretty” doesnt mean puts on alot of make up and is fake all the time, it means they were born with good physical features PERIOD!
there’s no extension of that definition!
you have no place to judge someone based on the way they look on the outside which is exactly what you’re doing and the saddest part is you wont even be able to notice until you find happiness in yourself and loose the feeling that you must change everybody’s mind about you and people like you. you seem very troubled.
i hope that you learn to accept yourself and the world around you, much peace and happiness.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Rachael_thephatness@xanga - lol
way to misunderstand…..
once again, “pretty” people, isn’t referring to people who are aesthetically appealing
I judge people based on how they treat others.
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This seemed judgemental and harsh. Maybe you weren’t intending it to be, but that’s how I read it. I do wear makeup, because I LOVE my eyes and I want to showcase them, not because I’m trying to be better than other people or that I’m insecure.
I personally thought the rant on ugly people was more about how nobody is truly ugly. There are so many small things you can do. I always was self-conscious about my huge forehead, so I got bangs. Why shouldn’t I? I was way more insecure before I took steps to be “pretty”. And no, it wasn’t for other people, I just like to look good for myself.
sunflower / 258 posts
There’s nothing wrong with pretty people, or people who want to improve their outer appearance via makeup or even surgery–moreso people with personality disorders that make them nasty, regardless of how they look on the outside.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@lil_squirrel4ever@xanga - “pretty people”
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Eglariel@xanga - ugh
read…….
I WEAR MAKEUP TOO….
Its a rant
i’m not attacking you personally
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - you’re very ignorant. for the last time im gonna say this.
you came across as a judgemental person and you NEVER said that was how you judged people until now.
pay more attention in english class and you’ll learn how to put a complete thought into words and write an actual artical
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Rachael_thephatness@xanga - ok (: you write the ‘article’ or just stop reading
I’m no professional writer, I blog
I was responding to an even MORE ignorant and judgemental post
and it’s a rant
NOT TO MENTION, you thought this post was about someones appearance?
I may be ignorant, but you’re ignorant of even the point of my post
I like to leave a lot of things lying underneath
and when someone decides not to think, or to make up their mind
well that’s not my liability
you chose to read
now go write a bitchy response k
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A lot of people consider me really pretty–but I don’t wear makeup (unless someone’s interested in playing doll with me) and my hair is usually down or in a ponytail. I don’t try to be pretty, but I take really good care of myself and keep on top of my hygiene. I really couldn’t care less about how naturally (or artificially) pretty you are on the outside, as long as you’re “pretty” on the inside. Cliche, I know. But who cares.
orchid / 123 posts
@FallenReign@xanga - I think that way of thinking is beautiful. I don’t doubt that anyone is beautiful though (: people get really defensive when you get on about appearance
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - I know? (READ… lol, kidding) That’s why I said you might not have been trying to sound judgemental… I never thought you were attacking me personally, since you’ve never met me or seen a picture of me, so that would be weird. I was just explaining myself in my comment, not attacking you.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Eglariel@xanga - I understand ^-^ just super defensive now lol everyones like well ‘I know i’m pretty’ hahaha but this post isn’t about people who are aesthetically beautiful, it’s a retaliation to another post -_- I like your logic, and your IQ, thank you
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after looking at your pic, i just roll my eyes. you’re gorgeous and look like you spent about 30 mins putting makeup on. i highly doubt your hair is naturally that voluminous, your lips naturally that red, your eyebrows naturally that thin and arched.
please, don’t try to tell me you’re somehow deeper than the OP of the other rant. at least she had a decent point: if you don’t like how you look, either change how you look or stop bitching to the rest of us who DO make an effort to look as pretty on the outside as we feel on the inside. we don’t feel sorry for you, anymore than we feel sorry for someone who complains about being fat WHILE they’re sitting at McDonald’s.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - I don’t care about being pretty for someone else.
I do things that are aesthetically appealing to me because I think it’s fun!
and I don’t depend on other peoples fucked up standards to tell me how to look.
thank you though ^-^ it’s nice to know your standard of beauty, but I could care less,
so yes, my eyebrows are plucked, my lipstick is on, and I could give a rats ass if you like it.
If I were looking for pity i’d find it in IRL people and who is this ‘we’ you speak for?
I guess not backing down to someone elses lame standards isn’t a valid point, and not encouraging this biased, judgemental outlook that being ‘gorgeous’ somehow effects your intelligence or decency as a human being. Everyone has a right to be here, even the ‘ugly’ people.
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this is probably one of the best response posts I have read on lovelyish
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i see where you’re coming from. but people that look more put-together get better treatment, whether its from other people or from employers. now, whether the person needed alot of work or a little work to achieve that look is a different story.
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not going to lie, this post confused me a little at what point you were trying to get acrossed :/
i agree with some things & disagree with others. i completely agree that you should wear (or not wear) makeup because YOU want to, not because you want to impress other people! this is where i get kinda hypocritical though – people have told me that i’m very pretty without my makeup, but i’m a very insecure person; i feel as though i can’t leave the house without my ‘face’ on, or i’ll feel completely ugly. i guess that’s all a part of life, though; everyone has their insecurities.
some jobs do have a necessity to be pretty, though, such as modeling (for the most part) & makeup artists (just an opinion, though. if i were to get my makeup done professionally, i’d like that person to have great makeup themselves – you should be a representation of your work. well, i guess that’s not prettiness really, just talent… alright, i’m rambling, hahah), but i understand that’s not the point you were trying to get acrossed.
regardless, i liked this post a lot.
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whoa whoa whoa!!
how would you define and point out “pretty” anyways.
everyone have their own opinion. one may be pretty to him/her and ugly to another.
i think this argument has gone out of hand. it shouldn’t have been started in the first place.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@kutiexaznxsuzy@xanga - it can’t be defined by one person ^-^
@SUPletstake___surveys@xanga - understandably so (: I just don’t think we should make an effort to ostracize someone because they don’t apply to our own standards of beauty
@suuperstar@xanga - that’s true ^-^ but I think that’s peoples own business
@Erika_Steele@xanga - thank you!!
cherry blossom / 46 posts
IM UGLY IS MY POINT MORE VALID??
LOOK: http://gickr.com/results4/anim_d3dafd5a-b5c7-8544-4593-039b3ec984a7.gif
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so you’re saying..that putting forth effort to try and not be an eyesore to people is a bad thing? make-up can make a lot of women look more naturally beautiful, and it helps with your confidence to know that you have made the effort to look your best even if you don’t succeed in that endeavor. this post is really unhelpful to a lot of people, it just comes across as you attacking people based on what they feel is important in life.
also, standards are a GOOD THING. ever wondered why women back in the day were all ‘slender’? it’s because that’s the healthy weight for women. we’re supposed to be slim. without standards, we’d all just be running around dirty and wearing potato sacks while getting fatter by the minute because no one would care about themselves.
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I think both rants have made pretty valid points. I just think it’s quite funny some of the responses that came from this..so many, “I get that all the times!” or, “I get judged as the pretty girl!”
Forget pretty or ugly. Why don’t we try modesty on for size?
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Yeah… the first post “My Rant About Ugly People” was stupid. It’s not even about the difference is beauty and being ugly. It’s about “grooming” yourself. And it’s understandable in the workplace and or job interview. But I really don’t give a damn what everyone else thinks about the way I look or present myself.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@holdthekeys@xanga - @holdthekeys@xanga - this post is a RESPONSE
I don’t disagree with you but I think standards are natural in culture
NOT EVERY WOMAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE SLIM
I know plenty of people who do not have a slender body type
and I know more than a few nutritionists
cultural standards and health don’t always go hand in hand
and i’m not saying that people are supposed to be fat
but my whole point is everyone is an individual and it’s ironic that this person who seems to ‘know’ what being ‘pretty’ or ‘ugly’ is finds it necessary to place their own standards of what beauty is
for example, the idea that big breasts automatically make women sexier
SURE plenty of people would agree, but there are plenty of people who would completely disagree and I find it ridiculous that some people make an effort to remind girls that their less than large breasts aren’t beautiful because of someone elses standard of beauty
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@TheRedheadChronicles@xanga - omg I thought that was funny too! I honestly wasn’t calling ANYONE in particular ugly but people still think omg well I know i’m beautiful lolz…..I was just ranting….really
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Xo_CoffinKiss_oX@xanga - haha gdgd ^-^ a professional environment is different than a wal mart one >.>
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - Well, yeah. With Wal-Mart they wear slacks and kakis with an over sized blue t-shirt. But for the interview I can understand putting a little effort in. I’m not saying for you to cake make up on your face, or go all out. Hell, I almost never wear make up, but I might put on some eye liner and mascara for a job interview, even at Wal-Mart.
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i hate pretty people cuz they’re pretty and im ugly ! wha ! cry moar !
lily / 5148 posts
@kutiexaznxsuzy@xanga - I agree. No one is going to win!
daffodil / 1975 posts
OMG! An actual good post on Lovelyish! *is happy*
magnolia / 1369 posts
Sorry, I’m with the other girl. She might have used to wrong words in calling them “pretty” people but she had a point about doing more to present yourself better. Unfortunately, appearances DO matter in the world. Whether people want to live with rose-colored glasses is irrelevant.
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I think this is a good article, albeit a little hastily written. You made valid points. You aren’t “not” gonna reproduce because you don’t look conventional and wear makeup and “look like you don’t try hard.” That last article was complete trash, so I’m happy someone responded to it.
How many people that society has deemed “ugly” have gone on to have children? The answer is THE MAJORITY. Most people aren’t conventional covergirl pretty. Look at your city, maybe your friends are cute or kind of attractive, but how many forgettable or not devastatingly handsome faces did you see in high school? college? The truth is anyone who has the ability to reproduce can, and we’re too far ahead in evolution to think that slathering on makeup is going to hide the other imperfections that a person has…that personality is worthless, even though more than 50% of marriages end in divorce (and not just because the partner gained weight).
I don’t think this article was attacking insecure people, but I surely feel that insecure people are taking it as such. Her point is that life doesn’t end because you don’t slather on makeup, wear heels, and constantly think about your appearance, because there’s a whole lot else going on that you can be thinking about, and if you ARE so insecure as to think you need to put buttloads of makeup on every single day, then you are attracting men who want girls insecure enough to do that. Not guys who care about other things. It’s a two way street. So do what you want, but there’s a lot of truth in this article. Well done.
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i like seeing these back-and-forth blog posts. it’s good to hear both sides. though, i am leaning more towards uncagedbirds. it is all over the place, but i like that in a post. and i like when i can tell the personality of the poster from what they wrote. it’s easier to read, and to identify with.
@uncagedbirds@xanga and, might i ask, does your s/n have anything to do with maya angelou’s “i know why the caged bird sings”? just a hunch. i loved that book so much.
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LOL this post has so many contradictions that the point is lost (whatever that point may be). This could’ve gone in a positive direction, but you seriously need to work on your delivery. I understand that this was a rant, but you should’ve cleaned it up a bit before presenting it to a larger audience.
In all these years of struggling with body image I’ve come to terms with the fact that people who are just happy to be in the picture are much more attractive than people who obviously spent too much time on their make up that day. I am guilty of that.
Guilty of what? Spending too much time putting on makeup? Which would negate what you said here:
OH, and I wear makeup because I think it makes me beautiful. I don’t slap it on so other ass-clowns find me mildly attractive.
So pretty is about what’s on the inside, but makeup makes you beautiful. You don’t care what others think, but your level of attractiveness is defined by the fact that boys want to sleep with you. People who judge the exterior (everyone in the world) are, according to you, ugly, but we shouldn’t be critical?
Yes, I’m very confused by all of this. And so are you.
sunflower / 477 posts
i’m having a hard time agreeing or disagreeing with this. parts of it make sense, like that people should do what makes them feel pretty rather than just trying to impress others, but then you totaly contradict that by saying that you judge people for wearing makeup. what if wearing makeup makes me happy? it’s so backwards.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@artbyrizzy@xanga - a lot of those points were in defense of myself. The poster I’m responding to pretty much said I’m not sexually attractive because I don’t have big tits. I’ve been guilty of wearing makeup for other people or because I think I’m ugly. Now makeup is like a decoration to me. I have so much fun wearing it. I don’t judge other people but plenty of people are obviously insecure and wear way too much makeup.
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I’m sure you missed the point of the original blog. A lot of people(yourself included) say that inner beauty is everything etc etc but the fact is that life is based on looks. You get hired because of looks you make certain friends because of looks you get a bf/gf based on looks(at first glance you gain that connection via looks) etc etc….
I sense someone has the green eyed monster in them because you seem to be offending pretty people with your statement… which makes you seem just as bad as pretty people complaining about ugly people no?
I have to ask if you understand that the pretty girl you saw on the bus/street was most likely wearing makeup. She may or may not have spent a lot of time getting herself put together but it doesn’t mean it was for your eyes. I get dressed up to feel confident in MYSELF… not to let anyone else oggle at my physical attributes. I am not trying to gain any social status or special attention etc I think you see people who get dressed up and assume that they are using that to gain things in life.
Honestly I was bullied when I was younger and was treated like trash. I faced obesity and breakouts. I was book definition ugly. I lost weight a few years ago and “transformed into a butterfly”. I am not bragging I am simply observing. I feel more confident when I look in the mirror(even though I sometimes see that same girl from several years back). By putting on makeup I cannot help it when I do get advantages in life because of my new “outer beauty”.
You seem just as bad as the people you’re ranting about. Not all pretty people can help being considered attractive and what the fuck difference does it make if someone wears makeup? You are judgemental and quite frankly uglier than a lot of people I have seen who are pretty and use that to get ahead in life. You are ugly on the inside through this post and that cannot be fixed.
Judgements judgements judgements…..
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cherry blossom / 46 posts
@petiteme_x@xanga - eh, im tired of working so hard to get the point across, I COULD GIVE A CRAP IF YOU’RE AESTHETICALLY BEAUTIFUL. I thought I had made that pretty clear. It seems you misunderstood the title, i’m not talking about pretty people, i’m talking about bitches that try to weigh others down with their own standards.
Besides, if you get that defensive ,you can’t be that pretty.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@Xo_CoffinKiss_oX@xanga - I meant just shopping at wal mart haha
@kiwifruitbowl@xanga - thank you so so so much, I feel like you’re really smart haha. The post came off a bit scattered because I was defending myself piece by piece. I wish that more people would realize what this article was about, and stop just skimming through it and half-quoting it.@bloodyfalling@xanga - it’s a quote from the anime strawberry panic and a saying “you sing just like uncaged birds”
thank you (: I’m already tired of this post hahaha, I just felt the need to defend myself against bitches who think I’m supposed to be fitting into their mold of beauty.
@Real_Girl_Fashion - I don’t judge people for wearing makeup, you missed it. I don’t judge people at all, insecurity can just be really obvious, and insecure girls LOVE makeup. That’s in no way saying, every girl who wears make up is insecure. I just think being comfortable with yourself is 100x more important than being ‘pretty’ to someone else.
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Whoa whoa whoa… just because someone puts on concealer doesnt mean they are pathetic. If someone wants to cover a pimple or look nice doesnt mean they are the scum of the universe.
I think what youre talking about as “ugly” is insecurity, lust, narcissism, or desperation in others.
Since history, since words could be written and pictures painted, beauty has always been sought after. People like to look at beauty whether its a human or a sunset or a crashing ocean.
Beauty itself is not a crime… Its what people assume of beauty, that is the danger.
Beautiful people may get more attention or more breaks than those who are not considered beautiful. Does that make it right? NO. But just because someone is considered ”ugly” doesnt mean they have a beautiful inside by default.
Or think about how many beautiful people are automatically considered shallow or players because certain people cant deal with the idea of someone being beautiful AND intelligent AND kind.
In this life there will be people who find you beautiful and people who find you boring to look at. Thats because everyone has a prefrence… and if they are really fickle, the longer you are around a beautiful thing, the more you get used to it, and no longer see the appeal. In other words you take it for granted!
Beauty does have power and influence, but it is certainly not substantial or justified in all cases.
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I’m not saying I agree with the other post, but I think you misinterpreted the meaning…
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - On the topic of breast size I will share with you what I know… and thats “Men love breasts of all shapes and sizes”. Now a certain guy will go after a woman with fake breasts or monster breasts… these guys typically are looking for a trophy girl. The more cartoonish she is the better! In essence he will parade her on his arm and talk about her like a beast he has speared. Men love trophies, big guns, large stereos, and this makes up for their small penis or their lot in life.
My question to you is, would you want to attract that kind of male?
To top it off I knew a stripper that was gorgeous! STUNNING! She was super tall, thick hair down to her ass, bubble butt, tiny waist, and massive fake boobs. She had full lips, a husky voice, and Brazilian accent. Men LOVED her!! I mean LOVED her! They threw money at her and she was a big earner in the club.
But I always thought she looked funny… just something was off. Come to find out, she used to be a MAN! So get this, a man’s ideal version of a woman… is not a woman at all… its a man with his penis cut off and all the fake fixings. They couldnt tell the difference!! Rumor went round that there was a transgender in the club, and guys would say if they ever KNEW who it was they’d be pissed to high hell. And I sat and watched as these dudes tipped the transgender.
As far as girls go with small breasts there are plenty of models and actresses that are getting married, having babies, or keeping boyfriends just fine. Regardless of your size, working your assets will always attract men… not all men… and for that you should probably be thankful.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@theladyofabundance@xanga - lol the concealer was just an example, but just because someone isn’t wearing any concealer doesn’t make them any less of a person than someone who was insecure and threw some on because a girl they saw said they should.
I actually COMPLETELY agree with you haha. I’m not saying that someone who is ugly is beautiful on the inside. I’m saying that people are beautiful on the inside. I could give a crap if youre pretty or not because it is only a preference.
Honestly I think the people who value it SO much are insecure because all of the very very beautiful people I know don’t sit around worrying if the girl next to them is up to their standards. They see beauty as an aesthetic or accessory and nothing more. They don’t use their looks to get what they want at all really.
and on breast size I completely agree. thats what I was trying to say haha….
I think that’s great…I have a tranny friend like that…he’s so beautiful ^-^ people don’t notice until he starts talking. Honestly most guys I talk to don’t care as long as she has something to put it in.
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This was a perfect response to the other blog!! THANK YOU!
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i’m really glad you posted this in response to the ugly people blog. that person was a tool.
daisy / 502 posts
You come off as envying pretty people.
If someone chooses to wear makeup (for whatever reason) that’s their business. It’s the real insecure people that perpetually feel the need to judge and put down those that just happen to value and appreciate their looks. Call me vain, but I take pride in not being ugly and I don’t see anything wrong with those that opt to wear makeup. To each one’s own.
daisy / 502 posts
You come off as envying pretty people.
If someone chooses to wear makeup (for whatever reason) that’s their business. It’s the real insecure people that perpetually feel the need to judge and put down those that just happen to value and appreciate their looks. Call me vain, but I take pride in not being ugly and I don’t see anything wrong with those that opt to wear makeup. To each one’s own.
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Best post I’ve read in a lonnng time. Thank you!
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Well, seems that people are overreacting a bit to this post. Thankfully, I don’t ever wear anything but eyeliner and mascara, so I’m not really worried about it.
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This post was a ridiculous mess.
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I know a few fat girls that are pretty and comfortable with themselves. Yes, there are a few ugly people in the world but the prettiest girl can be the ugliest person too. It’s all about how you treat yourself and others. You don’t have to wear makeup to be pretty. As long as you take care of yourself and respect yourself and others, then you are pretty.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@flawsnall@xanga - ACTUALLY, i’m talking about people who envy others and their looks. People always think about themselves. This isn’t attacking anyone else but the person who posted the blog I’m responding to.
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@Islandgirl566@xanga - EXACTLY ^-^ I love pretty people
@RicoShae@xanga - lol a LOT of people missed the point and just felt the need to talk about themselves, it’s not about wearing make up at all.
@SpOnTaNeOuS_sPiTbAlL@xanga - @Xbeautifully_broken_downX@xanga - thank you thank you thank you so much
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Uhh…so, I read your post, tried to find a point, and didn’t find any. Not even the slightest sense of logic resides in your writing o_O.
Why do you care so much about what other people do anyways? If a chick is insecure and feels more confident with makeup, then let her do her damn thang. Do you honestly give a fuck if I wear makeup or not? Would you go into a fit of rage if I walked by you and I was wearing makeup?
You don’t even make sense…you’re contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. I gurantee you that appearance has a direct association with confidence, especially in younger women, but so what? If someone feels more confident by putting on some concealer and eyeshadow, then they can do so, cuz it doesn’t affect me in any way. I don’t see why you care so much, is what I’m trying to say, lol.
Everyone wants to look good. Whether they use makeup or get surgery- that’s none of my/your business.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@deadlyelixir@xanga - it’s not about that. It’s about security and confidence being more important than impressing the judgemental bitch who tries to tell you otherwise. You obviously missed the point. That is NOT what makes me angry and if you think it is then I think you need to read up. I can just tell when someone is insecure, and I don’t think makeup should be the life or death of someone.
LOL WTF I stated flat out that more people should do what THEY think is beautiful. I think it’s a good thing for people to feel pretty. I think it’s shitty that someone thinks other peoples confidence and self image should be dependent on what they think. It’s unfair.
This was a response post, to someone who believed you have to have boobs to be pretty.
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - I already read your post, and you obviously didn’t get any point across. You sounded like you were having a conflict with your own opinions -_-. And uh..I don’t know a lot of people who dress up to impress others, myself included o_O. I don’t think, “Oh, I’m going to wake up 30 minutes early to curl my hair so people at school can look at me and think that I look so good!” I don’t give a damn about what someone thinks about me. I just dress up and wear makeup because I feel like it. If I want to wear heels and a dress, then I will. If I want to wear the tshirt I sleep in, then I will.
My point is that someone’s security does, in fact, have a direct connection to their appearance, and if makeup boosts their appearance- in turn boosting their confidence, then so fucking what?
Your long ass post can be summarized up in a few sentences. Next time, just do that so people don’t send WTF waves at you.
You might as well just say, “Don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks and do/dress however you want.” There. Done.
orchid / 101 posts
Sorry, but appearance is important. And you obviously seem to think so too, judging by your picture.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@deadlyelixir@xanga - I completely agree, that’s why I don’t understand why you’re trying to argue with me. But I feel like that should be on someones own terms, and I expect someone to be pretty no more than I expect them to tell me how to look. HONESTLY, I didn’t expect this to get posted at all, and I was directly countering quotes from another post.
@SerenaDante@xanga - ……-_- IDGAF. It’s an accessory. I’m blessed that I have the means to express myself the way I want to.I was so happy with that picture because of how it looked, and honestly it’s one of my weirder pictures. I have NO problem looking like a piece of crap for xanga, but hey I found a cute picture, that I PERSONALLY love, and I could care less if someone else wanted me to wear something different.
orchid / 101 posts
@uncagedbirds@xanga - I’m not just talking about your hairclip. Your clothes, your hairstyle, your makeup, your pose – they’re all attempts at beauty. (And successes too, but that’s beside the point.)
And why not put a pretty picture of yourself on Xanga? It’s ridiculous to think that anyone would rather look ugly than pretty.
But why is that? Because society dictates it? Or maybe because we ourselves truly appreciate ourselves more when we look good rather than when we don’t? Certainly, “good” is a relative term – but nonetheless, that’s still the case.
Anyway, my point was simple. We all do care about appearance – both our own and that of others. As much as you may try to deny it, it’s clear you feel the same. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@SerenaDante@xanga - awe thank you ^-^ I look like that every day though /: I’m not really that big on beauty, I just do things that I like these days and I think that’s ok. Honestly, I’m not big on trying really hard at all, which i guess is good, because I like how I look anyway. Not that I couldn’t improve.
I completely agree with you. I don’t deny it at all. I just hate people who think everyone should break their backs to be be beautiful for them. Just because someone else goes through hell and back to look ‘pretty’ doesn’t mean I have to.
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - I’m not trying to argue w/ you
I’m just telling you that if you worded your post a little differently, you’d save yourself a lot of effort in trying to convey your message. Anyways, I’m just confused because I don’t really see anyone telling another person, “Hey, you should do this to become pretty.” We all have different opinions on beauty, so obviously we’re going to think that some people are pretty and some are ugly, but that’s just natural..
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@deadlyelixir@xanga - I agree, but it was a rant haha
You’d like to think that people are more accepting, but this was in response to someone who was telling people that they should look a certain way. I’ve seen it happen so much. I don’t know why people find it necessary to tell everyone what they think is pretty or sexy because everyone is so unique. Sure you have opinions, but this chick crossed the line when she told me less people are attracted to me because I don’t have large child-bearing breasts.
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Damn, people chill out.
There will ALWAYS be pretty and ugly people. People will always make a choice on makeup, yes or no. And everyone finds ways to adapt and love themselves. Some kill themselves in the process. But that’s life. Everyone accept it and move on. Beautiful people and ugly people are all the same. Each person will see beautiful people and ugly people differently. There will never be a right or wrong on this, so everyone get over it already. Let people be who they want and do what they want with their damn bodies. If people want to cover up their insecurities with makeup, who are you to tell them it’s wrong? If you want to wear makeup that makes you look like a clown, who are they to tell you not to? And if you wear none at all, who’s to judge that as a good or a bad thing? In the end it is just a personal choice, and no one has any right to tell other people how to choose or judge their choices.
So everyone shut the fuck up. Kthxbai.
xX Ame ~*~ Hana Xx
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@uncagedbirds@xanga - well I for one love and understand your post C: to the person your responding to
suck a duck
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Btw I can see this is something your passionate about and are trying to spread the word I hope only the best for you C:
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@nylondare@xanga - I was saving this reply for last and btw I am not going to go on some profanity or name calling rant because I don’t personally know you but let me quote you a sec
“mmmm , sorry for being naturally pretty .i don`t spend much time on myself . really . not my damn fault . sorry that you`re ugly .”
People who are truly content and happy with their appearence don’t brag, or let what others say about their appearence effect them, or cut others appearences down. I am not happy with my appearence but one day I will be content and when that day comes whether it’s rude comments like the ones you’ve made or you tell me I’m as pretty as Taylor Swift it won’t matter because I will be content and no one elses opinions will effect my outlook.
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@Rachael_thephatness@xanga - Sorry to interrupt your argument, but to pay attention in English class would also mean to learn proper grammar and spelling. Sorry to say, but “pay attention in English class” before pouncing on someone else for an “incomplete thought.”
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lol. Your face IS weird. But not in a bad way
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@augustlively@xanga - By your last response, I can tell that you value other people’s feelings, and that makes you pretty (to me at least). Plus, red hair just rocks
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@nylondare@xanga - your retarded. thanks for proving the point.
PS I loved this post.
people need to stop and worry about realistic things not about their appearance.
daisy / 502 posts
@SerenaDante@xanga - I could not have articulated this any better.
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I’m sorry but this made absolutely no sense to me. What are you trying to say?
“Every glance you give someone emulates “I thought I was ugly so I threw on some concealer this morning” EVEN if you’re barely wearing anything.” You used the word “emulates” wrong.
Sure, boob jobs are nice, so are nose jobs in my opinion, but are they really that detrimental to someones existence?” This sentence is confusing as fuck. Are you saying that pre-nose job noses are detrimental, or post-nose job ones are?
“Not to mention, it doesn’t matter how much make-up you pile onto that ‘ugly’ face of yours, WE CAN ALL STILL SEE THAT YOU KNOW YOU’RE UGLY.” What does “we can all still see that you know you’re ugly” even mean?
“The boys love me, Honestly I have no problem finding a cute boy to bang, and even better, I have actual relationships, and I can guarantee to you that the LAST thing on my boyfriends mind was me feeding “their children”.” What’s up run-on sentence?! Nice to see you again, awkward capitalization.
I really have no clue what the point of this was. The writing was just awful.
Although I give you credit for using the right your/you’re.
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If all a person thinks about is being pretty, that’s all they’ll be. Pretty is boring. Very boring. Give me someone with brains.
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For me it’s not so much being handsome or beautiful, but being CLEAN, put together, and confident. These traits are what makes a person attractive. If you let yourself get fat and you dress like a slob, whatevs, your life and I’m sure I’ll be friends with you just the same. But I will judge you the first time I see just like everyone else will. Not because you have a plain or ugly face – that wasn’t your choice and it has nothing to do with who you are as a person. You did, however, choose to dress like that and present yourself that way to the world.
I honestly don’t think that the first post warranted this passionate of a response. Chill out, because we all know that appearance matters to a degree.
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girl….if youre a 28a youre clearly wearing a pushup bra in your picture. not to mention tons of makeup and hair product. you clearly looooove trying to better your looks. so hush.
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I read the other article, it was simple-minded and very much ugly itself, i love the message in this!
its written way better and there is a point.
people need to consider the circumstance behind someones appearance before they make shallow uninformed judgements.
Someone might be fat because, he/she fought in afghanistan and lost a leg and struggles to overcome post traumatic stress disorder and crippling deppression. To simply assume that that person sits on a couch eating and not exersizing is ridiculous!
Doctors and Surgeons! They never sleep, they dont have time for makeup and hair, They smoke because, it is a high stress job. They save peoples lives too! they sacrafice pretty much all thier time and energy to make peoples lives better, to me that fat balding doctor who is alwalys in the er is a beautiful person, and his looks dont make him less qualified to be a doctor or surgeon.
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@nylondare@xanga - Obviously someone does not understand english very well. Read the post again hun. One more time. Just one more.
It isn’t about someone not liking that you, or anyone specifically, is pretty.
You are pretty dumb though
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@NewBeginnings102@xanga - NO i’m just built that way…I have a 24 inch waist and a 26 inch chest so an A will look different smartie…. I like expressing myself through style it has nothing to do with impressing anyone, and I didn’t use much product that day, I just backcombed, then I went outside where it was humid -_- BUT why does it matter anyway? does it really make me so hypocritical to style myself the way I want to?Either way, I don’t care too much if you believe my bra size or not you obviously missed the point of this post.
@kirarinangelicpretty@xanga - I agree, but it’s not anyone elses business either. I care more about whether or not the person is going to waste my time.
@angelwingfive@xanga - give me someone with relevance
@fauxSHOyo@xanga - hahaha I was just replying to shitty quotes, with almost facetious answers. YES, I do get fucked, and NO my tits aren’t big.
@CelestDiggory@xanga - haha thank youuuuuu xo
@Log_Lover@xanga - yuuuup. thank you..
@augustlively@xanga - thank you so much! it’s a short term thing. I can’t care too much. I just hate seeing other people who think they can cut others down because they’re not their personal idea of ‘beauty’. Nobody wants that done to them.
@Broken_Black_Moon@xanga - YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THANK YOU
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Tbh, this is just as bad as the other post. You’re just attacking another person’s insecurities, and it’s rude.
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What on earth is wrong with people on lovelyish? Girls are constantly bickering to the point where I just completely skip reading the posts. Especially the comments. It’s sickening.
All I see is young girls going back and forth trying to prove each other wrong over relatively shallow things. This endless fighting just makes you guys all look like brainless/heartless dogs, to be honest. Grow up and start reading and writing these posts objectively and maturely.
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It would have been significantly easier to take your rant seriously if you hadn’t justified all of your points with examples about yourself. Because you have small breasts, larger breasts are not beautiful? Because other girls wear make-up, you assume that they are “insecure” and only trying to impress other people- but when you wear make-up, it’s because you want to?
There is a different between calling out plastic surgery as an unproductive solutions to aesthetic insecurity, and generalizing that anything other than a 100% natural look intensifies your blaring “ugliness”.
The unjustified assumptions you make in your appeal baffle me. This, coupled with your self-revolving evidence, creates a very woe-is-me rant out of what could have been a very interesting (albeit commonly discussed) piece. Perhaps you should apply some metaphorical cover-up to your judgmental personality if you wish for people to take your argument seriously.
cherry blossom / 46 posts
@bremelo@xanga - lol it’s not that serious, it was my personal beef with her, not everyone on xanga. Honestly, I was just defending myself because I personally felt offended and I think you failed to miss the point, which is unfortunate because then you’ve just wasted your time complaining about something even the poster doesn’t care about.
orchid / 176 posts
Fair enough. I’m not 100% in agreement with either post, but you present your argument much more intelligently than the other girl did.
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@CelestDiggory@xanga - thankyou awesome people like your rock even more! C: