Lovelyish

idk, maybe other bigger people do have that kind of relationship with food. i didn’t get to watch it because hubs wanted to play cod, but i would have. lol.

I watched it online because I was curious. I’m not sure one person can speak for an entire group of people, though. Maybe some fat people have different relationships with food. I thought it was an interesting show. I’d like to see where it goes.

I freaking love that show. But I agree, I think they made a big deal out of the food thing that wasn’t neccessary.

“I think a typical fat person’s diet is probably quite similar to that of
a typical non-fat person”
- really?…………………….. then why the hell are they fat?

@atmaster@xanga - diets the same, portions are different. That and being lazy. Doesn’t always have to be about what we eat. lol

I haven’t seen it but it sounds worth trying. Though I’m not sure I’ll get totally into it.
As for the relationship with food thing: I think I agree with you. I’m fat myself and I’ve never been the type to eat bad foods. I rarely ever crave sweets and fatty foods. I eat mostly what a “normal” person eats except yea, my portions tend to be larger. 

Are you serious? Just because YOU don’t have that issue with your food doesn’t mean other people don’t.

1, You don’t seem to be trying to lose weight. You try to go on a strict diet and exercise plan when you’re not used to either and think if you’d be hungry or not. Hell, I wasn’t even trying to diet or anything today, and despite trying to eat small, healthy meals, I’m STARVING! I’ve probably eaten around 1200 calories so far, have NOT worked out, and I’m STARVING. You can’t compare yourself to others when you seem to be the exception to most things.

2. You don’t represent most obese/overweight people. For one, lots of people form an emotional relationship with food. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean that a camp full of overweight/obese people won’t. And for two, most obese/overweight people (let’s face the truth) overeat, eat junk food, and don’t really make fruits and veggies a priority (and this is coming from MY experience as a fat girl). So, yeah, if you’re used to eating junk all the time and then overnight, you have to go on a strict diet of veggies, fruits, and workout for three hours a day, you would be frigging hungry and craving those foods as well.

3. EVERYONE has different cravings. I crave sweet things all the time. I have a sweet tooth, yes. Therefore, yes, eating veggies is hard for me because I prefer sweet tastes and veggies are far from sweet. You can’t say that the way these kids are with cravings is overexaggerated because YOU don’t have them. I sure as hell do, and I sympathized hard core with those kids. It wasn’t an exaggeration to me; it was like watching my LIFE being potrayed in television.

All in all, your goal with this little feature Lovelyish is to show that big girls don’t have to be skinny, lose weight, and insecure. You’re trying to be fat and fab. I get it. But since your attitude is DIFFERENT then most of those people on the show (or most people who grow up overweight and obese in general), you can’t make statements like the way they showed people interacting with food is unrealistic. It was actually quite realistic. I know MANY people who could identify with the campers on the show.

I watched that show and I actually really enjoyed it. I think you have it all wrong though.. those kids are there for a reason. They have an unhealthy relationship with food which is why they pay thousands of dollars to go to the camp, to learn how to be healthy… Fat people don’t have the same diet as a non-fat person, that makes absolutely no sense… I didn’t think they exaggerated anything.

I love your blogs  

wellll from living with some bigger gals (not obese, but probably in the overweight category…) i can definitely say that their eating habits were VERY different from mine. mainly as far as meat and processed foods were concerned. they ate a lot of pre-packaged meals and chicken, also more restaurant food than me. and they had a very difficult time eating healthier. they would ask me for advice (because i tend to be a very healthy eater.. most of the time, and i’m far from overweight) and i would give them some pointers, but they had a lot of trouble sticking to it. old habits die hard, some people need a bigger push to eat healthier, and if camp is the only motivator to live healthier, then i’m all for it. 

and yeah, fat people get dates all the time. but its typically with other fat people. luckily (?) there’s a surplus in america these days so there’s dates galore! any resulting relationship will probably be cut short due to heart disease and diabetes though…

not everyone is like you.. some people have really big cravings for sweets, and i bet those are the kinds of kids that do. you may like vegetables but not everyone else does..

@atmaster@xanga - metabolisms?

It’s nice that ABC family is doing a show like that…but seriously! They cancellled 10 Things I Hate About You. MADE ME MAD!!!!

Shut the fuck up.

I’m not fat. But I am overweight. And I crave sweets ALLLLLL the time. I like vegetables too, but I would much rather eat something sweet than celery.

I could relate to the show. Mostly because I know how it feels when you first try to lose weight. Like, you go out with friends and you know you shouldn’t eat pizza and ice cream. But you really want to because they taste so good.

I haven’t seen the show yet, but I know the hunger exaggeration is real to a point. When I was an overweight teen, I loved sweets and carbs. I didn’t like vegetables. I can totally relate to that. I would eat because I was bored. (Of course, eliminating microwave pre cook meals from my life, I have to work for my food, thus, lose weight! Aha!)

I’m scared to waste my time with this because they might like glorify heaviness or something. I’ll give it a watch for your favorable review though.

i know fat people who eat a lot. i know skinny people who eat a lot.

it isn’t always related.i don’t understand why this always has to be such a controversial issue.

I always love hearing your input. You seem quite unbiased and I like that

@internal_peace@xanga - Really? This seems unbiased to you?

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I want to go to a fat camp. Seems fun.

i agree about the food thing; i may be chubby, but i’m not going to go on withdrawal symptoms of i don’t eat a twinkie or a snickers a day. :l

i feel like the show puts way too much emphasis on the concept of ‘fat’ness though. it also has a fairly negative connotation (and not just because of the food). most of the campers seem kind of grumpy at times – or may that’s just me? – and i’m not grumpy. 
willamina’s rebellion seems to be a bit over the edge. it seems as if she waging a legitimate war rather than a figurative, symbolic war. 

I’m actually interested in seeing it.

@thisxemergencyx@xanga - You can’t think most overweight people are the way they are because of slow metabolisms… People who are fat for reasons our of their control, they are out there, sure, but it isn’t the norm. I, and a lot of people I know, are an example of this. A lot of fat people actually have very regular metabolisms, but they just simply eat too much and refuse to consistently exercise. It’s just the truth. That doesn’t make them bad people, though a lot of people think it does. It’s really no different from smoking or binge drinking or any other harmful addictive activity.

I didn’t watch it, mainly because I forgot it’d be on.

I caught a few glimpses of it.  It was a brilliant idea considering how many people in the US are fat.  I would say that because one of the big points of this show is that they are fat, they need to play it up a little.

um…. I’m happy your happy with your weight and all, but just because you don’t have that kind of a relationship with food doesn’t mean that other over weight (and the majority of over weight) people don’t either. I mean I’m very happy that you eat well and that you are fully content with who you are. Props props props…. but I think its unrealistic to say that others are that way too. And more over kids who DO have that kind of mind set would be at that camp for a reason…. to change that. Maybe it might seem a big over the top but people do deal with that kind of thing and if they do then going to a place like that would be great for them. Thats why they are there.

@atmaster@xanga - Fat is generally accumulated over a long period of time.  Just think about it this way.  If you eat the exact same diet and add one cookie to it a day, that’s 150 cal more, which doesn’t sound like that much.  But if you do that everyday, then it adds up to 15-20 a year.  A few years down the line, and you’re looking at obesity.  So really, an obese person’s diet can look very similar to a normal weight person’s diet.  Also, I eat like crap (today, I ate pancakes and almost half a pizza >.<.  Yesterday, I had Sonic, take out, and macaroni and cheese.  And I went on an ice cream run at 12 am) and I wear a 0-2, so really, diet doesn’t say much about size. 

I’m getting a masters degree in nutrition, so I know what I’m talking about.  A lot of it has to do with genetics as well.

@Shavanna@xanga - I wish I could say the same about withdrawl, lol.  I’m so used to cake and cookies (because I bake pretty often) that I’m always craving something sweet.

@MangoWOW@xanga - @thisxemergencyx@xanga - @Ni_Shi_Wo_De@xanga - it was a rhetorical question. i don’t doubt for a second that most people are obese because of what they eat. you can point out an example here an example there that is the exception to the rule, but across the board in america, i’d say people are obese because of what they are putting in their mouths. even though it’s true that it can be a result accumulated over a period of time, i doubt a normal obese person and a normal fit person’s diet varies by 1 freaking cookie 

Calling a show about overweight teens “Huge” just seems like…a bad idea

@Momo_Wakahisa@xanga - I’ll second this response.

@miss_love_tantei@xanga - there’s a reason that i put a question mark after i said metabolism, because i wouldn’t know, but i agree if you looked at my other comment..

“not everyone is like you.. some people have really big cravings for sweets, and i bet those are the kinds of kids that do. you may like vegetables but not everyone else does”

I haven’t watched it, but I’m pretty heavy-set, and my boyfriend’s skinny, and he doesn’t seem to mind that I’m heavier than him. And, other than losing weight for my own health and it being hard to shop for clothes, I’m comfortable with my size. And I like carrots as much as I like carbs. I also know fat people that are vegetarian and fat people who keep really good diets. And skinny people who eat tons of food and are still skinny. Like half of my guy friends.

Ouch, why are people so mad at you?? I’m fat because I don’t exercise and I eat large portions, plain and simple. Ummmm… I didn’t watch the show because I don’t need/want to see another show about fatties who want to lose weight, who dream of getting kissed or loved, blah blah blah. Hey look, I’m fat and sometimes, when I put forth the effort and spend the money on the clothes, I look damned good. And *gasp* I get attention from thin cute guys who disgust me because I am not attracted to thin guys. It doesn’t matter to me… I am married, have had romantic flings, whatever. There is a way to live a happy life being fat… the truth is it’s the health of the person that matters. This show seems like a “we are fat, here us roar” and the Willimena character is a shy, ashamed, insecure girl who just disappointed me… I really wanted her to be like fuck this, i’m fat and this is what it is. Oh well… Maybe next time. I love you blog though

Im abt avergae weight and I LOVE sweet things.

It really is abt moderation and rationing of portions.

each person is different!

Mmm no I disagree. I know you don’t have that relationship with food but lot’s of research has proven that alot of people have unhealthy relationships with food. Actually I do too, I’m still in a healthy weight range but if I don’t get it under control I probably will be. Fat camp isn’t a bad concept for me, it’s a place where people go and everyone understands each other and it’s a place where they get help with their problems.

LOL @ all the people upset by what you said.  I didn’t watch the show, nor do I really plan on watching it.  I might check it out if I remember the next time it comes on.  I get what you are saying, everyone is different so why show all the campers hating veggies, craving sweets, and being hungry all the time.  It would be nice if they had TV shows that didn’t stereotype people, but I don’t see it happening in my life time.  To be honest, it is a lot better than it used to be, except for perhaps when it comes to size.  This show may be the closest thing that they have to portraying overweight people in roles beyond the comic sidekick.

@thisxemergencyx@xanga - I did see that comment. Hopefully I didn’t come across as crass, but I apologize if I did.

Did not watch it but you are so right about stereotypes about fat people. 1) they do not always eat all the time. There are many “fat” people that eat once or twice in a day. 2) Some are vegetarians. I have a friend that is considered “fat” and she is a vegetarian. She also runs marathons. 3)They are not always sedentary. There was an article about 15 years ago in “Heart and Soul”magazine about a lady that was a size 22 who decided to work out and eat right and today she is a size 16 and does marathons and is a plus-sized model.

So many think stereotypes are out the door too but I will wait until another time to discuss that.

@Ni_Shi_Wo_De@xanga - I hope this doesn’t come off as offensive, but I’m a little surprised that your diet sounds so unhealthy, considering you’re getting a masters in nutrition. To me, that’s like a doctor who smokes, telling someone not to…

@j_e_n@xanga - haha, i know, it’s
been pretty awful   i’m actually really conscious of what i eat and i
used to be really good about it, but this summer has been nutritionally
defunct :/  i’m blaming it on all the bbqs and the boyfriend >.<

i
do exercise regularly!  and i eat pounds of fruit/vegetables the days i’m not stuffing my face with pizza :p

@Ni_Shi_Wo_De@xanga - Hey, we’re all human — I know I can’t resist a juicy slab of BBQ tri-tip