Lovelyish

Well, I wouldn’t air it either if I were them. I shouldn’t be advertising lingerie for obese people. Lol.

Why can’t women share big boobs with those less fortunate? Jeez.

boobies should be permitted 24-7!!!

I’m not really a “pro-plus size models” kind of girl, just because usually plus size translates to obese and I don’t think people should glamorize obesity, but the girl in this commercial is beautiful and does not look unhealthy at all.  I think it’s stupid that they wouldn’t air this, especially considering the Victoria’s Secret commercials that run during prime time.  They are much more “racy” and “sensual.”

If they air Victoria’s Secret commercials which are more racy than this commercial then what’s their excuse?

I honestly don’t think it’s ALL that racy…no more racy than the KY Intense commercials. 

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Go to Hell, you ugly bitch.

@WhenHateIsTheOnlyOption@xanga - THANK YOU! Your comment was really all I had to say . . .

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - No thanks, Easily Offended.

They didn’t refuse to air it, they just wanted LB to edit it to make it suitable for an earlier time. They require others to do this as well. They as offered to show it after a certain time. LB is just looking for publicity and what better way than to ride the coattails of the ever popular weight debate. The only “racy” thing I could see was she left the house in her underwear and a trench coat. Shmeh. I read this on AOL news and those commenting there also decided to jump on the plus-size versus skinny issue. It just won’t go away. 

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - …Yeah, in other words, easily offended. Lmao.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Not “Easily Offended”.  Low Ignorance Tolerance.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - I’ve only seen one plus size model that seems bigger than this model, and that’s Tara Lynn (at least of the more popular models). You’re right in saying that obesity shouldn’t be “glamorized”, and I love what you said about the model in the commercial, but I have to wonder: shouldn’t plus-sized girls who are overweight and actively trying to get healthier be able to see beautiful models in magizines who are medium/curvy (aka plus sized but not heavy to the point of unhealthy), so they can be more confident WHILE they lose the weight? Sorry for bugging you but I’ve been wondering about this for a while and you seem like a nice person with interesting perspectives

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Right, because a woman with a band size over 36 has no right to hear about supportive bras for them.

If they are going to air Victoria’s Secret commercials they should air Lane Bryant commercials. As a bigger girl it kind of annoys me that they wouldn’t want air it. Girls with a bit more flesh want to feel pretty and sexy just as much as anyone else. And guess what? Big can be beautiful. Lane Bryant is one of the few stores that gets that, and now stations want to censor it? Seriously. Ugh. 

Lane Bryant makes a good argument for being upset.  MAYBE the networks have other reasons for not wanting to air the commercial but if they do they need to make it clear. If they don’t make it clear what else is Lane Bryant supposed to think? I mean the point was made that these networks have far racier content in their shows than in this commercial.

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@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Hahaha, you’re only supporting my beliefs.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - You mean, your beliefs that you’re a retard for taking my first comment seriously? Oh, okay then.

@Murphy_Rants@xanga - Exactly.  Well said.

@Murphy_Rants@xanga -  Oh, yeah, totally. You know it.

i don’t think it’s too racy. however, i do think this post is biased in that “the true reason” is written in boldface as if it were truth, though it is admittedly only an allegation.

I dont see anything offensive at all.

I found the commercial more suggestive than racy, but I don’t think Lane Bryant has a case…….honestly, there’s more shocking stuff on TV than Victoria’s Secret ads. And, to be honest again, without meaning to hurt anyone (if I do, I apologize……let’s see how well that goes over ), I don’t want to see plus-size chicks modeling lingerie. I’m well aware that I can change the channel, but if the commercial airs during a worthy show (which is rare), I’d rather not do that.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Well, if you WERE sarcastic, then I apologize. 
But honestly, hate is all too common anymore.  I really don’t think it’s
all that unbelievable that somebody could whole-heartedly mean what you said.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - Haha. I thought it was a tad obvious. I mean, everyone needs freaking bras, no matter their weight. 

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Well, I apologize.  And I am well aware I look like an idiot, but I guess everybody has their moments.  Though, the woman in the ad doesn’t really seem obese to me.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga -  Apology accepted. Eh, I wouldn’t say she’s obese, I mean, I have no idea. However, I would certainly say she’s overweight. 

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - That woman is not obese. She can’t even possibly be considered over-weight. She had, as you could see, a flat stomach and no visible cellulite. And plus-sized women can wear lingerie too….

@vixen_with_a_cause - The problem with that is most plus size models are air brushed and perfected ( as far as their skin, hair, and yes, even their shape ).  They usually don’t make overweight girls feel better, because they’ll still never look as good as the models in the magazines.  What they do instead is “normalize” obesity.  I don’t really see a problem with models who are a bit on the chubby size, or even a bit overweight, but I don’t think that girls with obvious health risks stemming from their weight should be put on a pedestal–especially if they are going to be airbrushed anyways.  For me, I used to be obese.  Part of the reason I got there was because I didn’t feel like I was really overweight.  After all, I was just “curvy” or “big-boned” or all of these other excuses.  By the time I realized that I was actually just fat in high school, I’d set myself up for four years of hell.  It would have been easier for me if society was just honest, instead of worrying about being so politically correct and not wanting to hurt anyone’s feelings.  That’s my take on it, anyhow.

Maybe they’re slowly cutting back on racy commercials… Starting with the Plus Sized Cleavages…

@FatzoToFabulous@xanga - Skinny people can have cellulite, that doesn’t determine whether you’re overweight or not. She’s wearing flattering underwear. She’s overweight, but she dresses for her size so it doesn’t look like she has five million unflattering rolls. Most plus sized models do just that.

@eclecticapunkqueen22@xanga - Hehe lemme settle this right here: do you mean plus size, as in real 16-22 plus size, or plus size, as in the modeling industries cast offs from sizes 6-12 (which seeing as a 5’8 woman wearing a size 12 jeans would look proportionate to say, a 5’2 woman wearing a size 7 jeans, doesn’t neccesarily mean overweight). Becuase not too many people seem to think about the fact that a taller skeleton= a wider pelvis, and since women were made for childbearing we were meant to have a healthy dose of fat on our hips!

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Yeah, overweight I’ll give you.  I do think she’s toned well for her size, though.  In any case, I learned to maybe not judge so soon.  Honestly, I’ve just watched all this hate speak get thrown all over the place over people’s weight.  I got carried away and ended up stooping as low as the people I was mad at.  I’ll be more careful from now on.

@vixen_with_a_cause - Good question……I meant anyone over a size 14. 6-12 is fine, I’m pushing a size 6 as we speak thanks to the Pill!

I actually buy Lane Bryant’s bras and have always thought it was odd that they don’t have any commercial air time. I’m 5’11″, 160lbs, and a perfect hourglass figure… Victoria’s Secret doesn’t make lingerie, especially sexy, playful things, in my size, by LB does.

Why is it ok for networks to showcase starved, bone-thin models in next to nothing peddling sex like it was candy, but God forbid a healthy, full-figured woman makes the slight innuendo of sensuality? It just blows my mind.

I don’t think you can be that toned and be considered fat.  Seriously she might be more then a size 8 but she is by no way obese and I think ads with those size women are great for women who are a little over weight to realize you don’t have to be a size 4 to be happy or healthy.  As for not airing the ad that’s weird & seems a little off.

I think it is the raunchy text message of “Meet Dan for lunch” that sends out the wrong message that dumb kids watching would maybe copy what she is doing by wearing just their underwear underneath an opened jacket to meet their friends for lunch. it is after the a.i. show so tweens and younger are probably watching and then they’ll sext their friends a similar message lol

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - Nifty, and understandable. Here’s my take: I was overweight all throughout high school, by my junior year I was obese. I knew it, I hated myself, I lived in hot topic pants and t-shirts so big they came down to my knees. I knew I had to to something about it, but when eating only 800 calories a day and exercising wouldn’t do it, I began taking on eating disordered habits and went from a womens size 12 to a childrens size 8.

Then I lost my job, and with less overall activity (not to mention that I could no longer afford to skate) I ended up gaining a good 35 pounds by eating about 1500 calories a day. Once again, I knew I had to do something about it. I decided once and for all to fight my eating disorder with all the strength I had and decided that I would lose the weight the healthy way, no matter what.
So here’s the thing: I started this at 12 pounds overweight, bumped my exercise routine WAY up, and began eating 1000 healthy, solid calories a day (fruits, veggies, lean protien, just enough dairy), and 200 liquid calories (veggie and fruit juice for my blood sugar). Now for me, at 4’6 with a 19 year olds metabolism, this is healthy for me, and given the cut fat intake, should make me lose weight. Now, my muscles are certainly more toned, but I lost 4 pounds and my body just conked out. It doesn’t WANT to lose weight the healthy way; considering what my former eating habits put my heart through, my body seems to believe that instead of trying to get healthier, that I am trying to kill it.

That being said, I will not stop trying to get healthier, but my point is that I look proportionate to the average plus size model (say size 8-10, depending on my water weight), and aside from that, I’m only overweight by BMI standards. By my body fat percentage, I’m still a good 6 points away from being unhealthily fat. So my point with the whole “plus size models” deal and the obesity epidemic is that a) no one can tell how healthy someone is just by looking at them, b) there is such a thing as a “set point”; the term for the weight your body functions best as depending on individual metabolism, age, height, genetics, and even muscle mass, and for some people their bodies are healthiest at a fleshier weight (think a BMI of 23 or even 24, given that it is MAINTAINED and not INCREASING) because it would literally take unhealthy measures to be as skinny as what “healthy” is considered to be these days, and c) since health is about what you do an not how you look, I’m pretty darn healthy already! And I believe there is a BIG difference bewteen encouraging people to believe obesity is healthy, and encouraging people to feel good in the skin they’re in if they’re doing the best they can short of a personal trainer and plastic surgury! Oh, and as for airbrushing, you have a valid point but even skinny models have celluloite and stretch marks airbrushed out! I’m just thinking we need more variety, and A LOT more natrual beauty, because every one deserves to feel beautiful!

So that’s my story. Can ya kinda level with me on that?

I found the LB commercial WAY more enjoying than the VS one. The average waist size for women is from 30-37 ish (last time I checked, I don’t promise that’s extremely accurate), so it’s great that they’re targeting that crowd, instead of the twigs that only a handful of American women are.

Now that I think about it, aren’t VS commercials only shown after a certain time too? I might just be crazy. If so, at least they’re making it fair, to an extent. -shrug-

I dunno. I just think it’s silly, how they show racy commercials for VS with pretty, skinny models, (I think the line was “The Naked”) but won’t show a LB commercial of full figured, beautiful women.

-edit- Yes, the “meet dan for lunch” message was kind of… suggestive. She could have at least thrown on a slip or something to cover herself up.

@vixen_with_a_cause - I think most of our disagreement comes from the definition of “plus-size” in the first place.  I mean, in the “fashion” industry, size 8 to 12 is considered plus size.  But, that’s not really the “plus size” market.  Plus sizes are usually size 16+ and that is usually ( depending on height ) an unhealthy size.  I’m all for models being size 8 – 14.  I think that’s fine.  Not all models should be skinny, that’s just not realistic.  But I’m thinking of plus size models in magazines that are obviously just …obese.   

That woman is not obese. Overweight by BMI standards, perhaps. But you can tell that her body type is meant to be bigger! Thus, I would never call her fat. Not to mention, if she’s a model she’s probably miles tall.

PLUS…. Aren’t BIG boobies the only boobies worth attention?!?! I mean, those VS models’ mosquito bites aren’t very attractive at all! A true hourglass figure, complete with a healthy, full chest, is what TRUELY makes a bombshell

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - Aha, we are on the same wavelength . . . sweet Only difference is I stopped reading magazines because everything I saw was so unrealistic, so when I think plus size model, I think Crystal Renn (who is so hot, by the way!). Yet I do admit it was also because Cosmo keeps re-wording and running the same articles from years ago, and as for the newer articles . . . using a thong as a hair tie, come on, wtf?!

@dukeitout_daisy@xanga - Hehe. See, VS models SEEM like they have big boobs, but really, those bras have some major padding going on . . . I don’t even shop there anymore since Walmart ripped off their undie designs :) But seeing Alessandra in a non-padded bikini top, misquito bites are pretty damn accurate . . . although Ms. Lima certainly has some sexy going on lol

eh…excuse me for playing devil’s advocate here, but chances are, a woman with DD boobs is going to be perceived as more racy than a woman with A or B boobs, just because she has more “boobage.” it’s not fair, i know.

i think it’s obvious they wanted these women to have sex appeal, but that’s no different than any other ad these days.

What the fuck is this?

God damnit. Lingerie commercials are lingerie commercials for God’s sake.

@soyeahthatswhathappened@xanga - …Have you ever seen a  Victoria’s secret commercial? The women have the same size breasts only smaller figure.

How is it anymore racy than a regular victoria secrets add honestly 

I don’t know, I personally think this model is more attractive than the VS ones…and no, this model is not obese. -.- Maybe they wouldn’t show it cause the plus-sized ones are hotter and therefore more “inappropriate for tv?” lol

Wow, that model was really pretty. 

what is the need to advertise bras on tv?!!
just go fucking buy one!  ask the frigging saleslady about which one is best

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Well then these stupid TV stations shouldn’t be advertising for anorexics either!

Some people are really stupid, showing these commercials aren’t glamorizing obesity & they sure as hell don’t encourage it, either. These companies gotta advertise somehow, or else nobody will know who they are, & they wont make as much money! I guess TV stations might as well ban every Pepsi, McDonalds, & Cheetos commercial.

well. she has some nice boobs, no reason to not show them on tv haha

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - the majority of plus size models are nowhere NEAR obese.  in fact, they’re probably 10x healthier than most ‘normal’ models.

i think lane bryant’s allegations are kinda biased, that there’s “discomfort with full-figured women.” eh, i dont know. this whole weight debate about which side is being under-represented is getting old.

Hm. I see how some could become wary of this commercial, but really it should be a non-issue already. Beauty comes in different forms, and this is undeniably one of its incarnations. 

I’m not really one to fight for any plus-size rights, but if they’re showing Victoria’s Secret commercials, then they should show this too.  Though, I think their issue with it, isn’t the size of the model, it’s the suggestive nature of it.  In Victoria’s Secret commercials they’re just sitting around in bras, this one suggests the model is getting ready for a date night with sex involved. 

@Autumnxx3@xanga - And they don’t. 

i fucking loooove casique lingere. its pretty much all i wear.

ABC actually was fine airing it and sent out a letter to viewers saying they never actually banned it.

clearly, they don’t like fat people…VS airs much more suggestive ads with writhing, more naked beauties who have enhanced bazookas that are almost as big as that girls…and they talk about fallen angels and all kinds of suggestive scenarios…i’m disappointed in both tv companies….

@entropyreigns@xanga - That depends on if you are talking about what “high fashion” considers plus size or what clothing magazines / department stores consider plus size.  They are entirely different categories.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - I couldn’t have said it better myself.

The only problem I could see with it wasn’t actually the boobs, or the half naked woman.  I thought the “Meet Dan for lunch” part of the story was a bit racy.  If you are meeting someone for lunch you don’t leave the house in underpants and a coat.  Well at least it’s not the kind of lunch featuring a sandwich in a nice cafe.
I think if they just edit that out then it’s really not a big deal.  If they would edit that out and then be turned down then I could certainly see a problem.  But of course without really know if is the story or just the bust size it’s not so easy to make a judgment.

That model’s freaking hott!!!! How is she so curvy with the flattest tummy ever? Her beauty is unreal.

@eclecticapunkqueen22@xanga - I’d rather not see your discriminatory thoughtless comments but I’m stuck seeing those. You can deal with seeing a beautiful woman with a curvaceous, smokin’ hot body model lingerie if I can deal with your ignorance. 

I think there are too many issues involved to really make a clear statement about ABC’s or Fox’s motives.  It could be part of a continual and inherent discrimination about full-figured women or it could be about the perceived inappropriateness of the commercial content. For my part, I am more concerned about the former, especially given the comments here.  Models, who are regularly over 5’11″ tall, are going to weight more than most people and look larger in general.  We are so used to seeing them at unhealthy weights that a woman within here healthy weight range looks obese to us.  The term plus-size covers so many different clothing sizes depending on where you shop that a size 12, a very average size, can be considered plus-sized. Yes, I can agree the debate is getting old and tired, but it’s only continuing because perceptions aren’t changing in the media.

As for the woman leaving in just lingerie and a coat, the Valentine’s Day episode of ABC’s Modern Family showed the exact same scenario as one of it’s story lines. And as was previously mention, the KY commercials are far more explicit about sexual activity.

So to answer the question, as much as I would like things to change and I’m on LB side, I don’t think they have a case.  There’s not much more than suspicion at one of several possible motives.

I don’t know what they’re odd about, that commercial’s not even racy, and the model’s fucking gorgeous.

i agree with everyone about vs commericials being waaay racier, but i don’t think any racy commericials at all should be allowed. its kinda like softcore porn.

Geez, maybe the network was being too insensitive, but I normally do see sexy ads on the TV earlier than 9 PM.  And maybe Lane Bryant is being too sensitive.  Judging from the picture above, I don’t think the ad looks trashy, and the model looks beautiful.  Perhaps that networks didn’t want to show the ad until late because it suggests the woman in the ad is going to get some…she was only wearing lingerie underneath the coat.

Doesn’t ABC broadcast the Victoria’s Secret fashion show every year?

@rockerkitten4christ@xanga - AMEN (:

It is a beautiful and romantic commercial. The girl is lovely. Lane Bryant ought to sue the network fools asses off

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Dear, god, I hope that’s a joke. Those women were not obese, and they need good bras just as much–no, MORE–than small-breasted women.

@lygophilia@xanga - Oh please.

the commercial was not at all racy. It’s as conservative as a lingerie commercial gets. And the plus size model is so pretty, she’s not even plus size, she’s real size.

it’s definitely not as racy as some other commercials out there. and she is NOT obese! she’s a pretty, curvy woman trying on lingerie that fits her. besides, more women in the U.S. look more like her than victoria secrets models

well, she is kinda chunky.

Can I just nestle into that model’s boobies and take a nap? They look so damn inviting.

i think that it is wrong for them to ban this commercial. i think that everyone no matter what her size has a right to feel beautiful. this commercial is cleaner than some of the VS commercials that i have personally seen played on ABC.

@Miniature_Disaster_In_Progress@xanga - Because  they just want ‘regular’ cleavage, and not fat woman cleavage.

I think we could all benefit from this link here: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2010/04/21/with-great-cleavage-comes-great-responsibility/

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Actually, if you watched the video, you would see that the woman doesn’t look obese at all….definitely more on the “curvy” side, but not unhealthy looking or anything. Also, I highly doubt you were being sarcastic in your first comment. If you’re going to make a statement, stick by it and take the heat.

@rust_andstardust@xanga - 1) I did watch the video. I watched it before I even commented. 2) Curvy is a hourglass body shape. She’s just overweight. 3) And I don’t really give a poop if you doubted me really being sarcastic or not. I was. If I’m going to make a sarcastic comment, I’m going to stick by its sarcasm. No advice needed. 

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - sounds good. see you next tuesday

that definetly doesn’t make me uncomfortable. She’s a big beautiful woman. It’s not that racy.

There’s nothing wrong with this ad. TV network people are weird. =/

I don’t really watch a lot of daytime television or too much prime time so I’m not sure what commercials do air. I know I’ve seen the scantily clad women of all sizes in cotten panty sets. Is it the type of lingerie that matters? I’ve also seen “ribbon” body wash commercials and commercials of Victoria Secret “Angels.” We also see women jumping around in bathing suits all day long. Of course, it may be the context of the semi-nudity in the commercial. Sometimes the whole commercial is a little too risque. The Victoria Secret adds show the women walking. They are not doing daily activities that up the ante like putting on or taking off clothing. I think when they are wearing an overlay, it is either on or off in the shot. It is never put on or taken off. I’m not sure though. The commercials that kind of set my teeth on edge are the ones of “summer fun” where “Moms” and “kids” are playing in outdoor settings. It’s not that I think the commercials ever imply anything untoward at all. It’s that it sneaks the idea that it’s okay to look at other men’s wives in regular settings. So commercials with semi-nudity in a “everyday” settings seem more “dangerous to society” because they attach sexual innuendos to feelings of sentimentality. This commercial personally offends me because of the text message. If she were simply talking on her phone and then going to work, than I wouldn’t feel offended. Lingerie is for support and self-confidence. It’s not for “hook-ups.”

mmmmmm boobies. I think maybe larger breasts are seen as more risqué considering you know, that’s what turns most men on. I don’t look at the itty bitty titty girls and think “oh hot.” But if I see a large breasted female I’m like “oh god…please save me from her gorgeous cleavage.”

Yeah

I wouldn’t want my kids seeing a commercial like that (if I had kids).
It sends the message that fat is sexy, and that’s what you should aim for.
Victoria’s secret ads send the message that ultra thin (with huge tits and a medium ass) is sexy, and that is what you should aim for.

Why can’t there be regular people?

My future children will be exposed to no media other than public access until the day they create a lingerie commercial with one girl with to much tits, stomach, and ass, one girl with just enough tits and ass, and one girl with too many muscles.

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@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Ahaha, you SHOULD go to hell, really, you should XD dirty cunt.

lane bryant has a case. it’s weird the way people associate the term “plus size” with “obese”, yet they completely ignore the dangers on the opposite end – those of eating disorders which many “regular” models deal with.  no one can rightly say that more typical models are any healthier than plus size models; that’s absurd.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - It’s not obvious – sarcasm over the net is pretty pointless the majority of the time.

@DeadXTendencies@xanga -  Holy shit, you’re obviously a dumbass. Lmao.

@selfsaboteurr@xanga - At least I’m not the only one who has a hard time distinguishing written sarcasm.  I made an ASS out of myself on this post, haha.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - I’m pretty sure plus-size does not always translate to obesity by any means.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some form of discrimination going on.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - you’re kidding right? i would rather a girl with curves than with nothing, and where is she obese? please tell? her stomach looked pretty flat to me.

@devour_my_broken_soul@xanga -  Oh, I’m deaaaad serious. Obese people don’t deserve the luxury of underwear! God forbid. 

Also, she’s not obese, yes. She’s overweight, however. Wearing clothes that fit you will always make things look slimmer. 

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - it’s okay, i totally thought she was serious too

It’s definitely pushing the “appropriateness” mark, even for a bra/underwear commercial, but that was far from being racy. If either TV network is going to be putting up VS or other less-than-wholesome show or ad, then they should have put up LB’s ad without a hitch.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - Plus size is considered size 8 and above. How is a size 8 obese? Google plus sized models.

That lady was really pretty. This makes me sad. :[

I don’t see anything wrong with this commercial. Whoever says the women in this commercial are obese is ridiculas. Yes, they’re fuller, but they’re not obese by any means. That one woman who’s trying to weigh 1000lbs is obese.

They’re concerned about ratings. The first comment proves that everyone is just so fucking squeamish about any woman whose hip bones aren’t sticking out like shark fins. They don’t want viewers – who are used to seeing size 00s strutting about in much skimpier lingerie – to get their feathers ruffled.

This is truly ridiculous to me. Hell, they do a whole Victoria’s Secret fashion show on tv. There’s no reason for a Lane Bryant ad to be rejected. At ALL.

Wow I thought plus sized meant chunky monkey…that was pretty sexay!! Oh yeah bad abc and fox! Air that plz

SAY YES TO BOOBS.

why is it that “normal” skinny women have all the freedom in the world to prance around my tv in their underwear. Yet when a plus-sized model who is just as beautiful maybe even more then the “normal” models people get pissed off. Is it because people think all plus size women are disgustingly ugly and god forbid there be a beautiful plus size woman in the media. Honestly I think the “normal” models appear to be more unhealthy then the plus-size models. I just don’t connect being healthy with being able to see one’s bones.

I can deffinatly see them doing it becasue shes not stick thin. I mean come on how many commercials out there do we really see advertising realistic looking women. Hardly at all. Its sickening actually. Why do you think all the younger generations worry about being skinny. Has nothing to do with the obesity problems, its all about what they see on the tv.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - By medical standards, these woman are not clincally obese. Check your facts before you throw words around.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - Precisely. In the fashion industry, “plus-size” usually means “normal weight.”

Personally, I both love & hate all lingerie commercials. I try on lingerie sometimes and nothing seems to look good. So I wonder, “Maybe if I was just thinner” or if it is a plus sized commercial, “Why can’t my body be shaped like that?” …

But sometimes it offers me hope because it shows that plus sized women can be beautiful too. Then I realize that they’re probably airbrushed just like all the other commercials and I come crashing down.

Their bras and panties are wonderful though! Lane Bryant is the only place I can buy bras. I am going to cry when I can no longer fit into them.

Just go ahead and let them have their commercial airtime! Seriously.

Although the women weren’t dressed that scantily the cleavage that was showed could be tamed down a bit. Less “in your face” and possibly viewed from a distance could have been more tactful.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - agreed.

I dunno, it seems like every couple weeks I see a new ad on tv and I think “omg, are they allowed to do that??” Women skipping around their houses in undies to the narration of a breathy temptress does seem kinda commonplace these days – I wouldn’t be suprised if (even if they didn’t realize it) these networks were a little put off by the model’s size. With all the campaigning against obesity these days, and the idolization of those under a size 4, it makes sense that people’s brains would be programmed to find something “wrong” with a larger sized person being portrayed as sexy, even if they can’t quite put their finger on why.  I think they should air it, I’ve seen so much worse.

I agree with LB and GOOD FOR THEM for doing those beautiful ads! Society is so close-mided, it’s not only maddening, it’s hypocritical. Hello? Plus-sized women in our country are like green on grass.

So the issue is less of what TV stations or society in general should allow, and more in our definition of beauty.

And for those skeptics out there, I weigh 124 lbs. I’m not plus-sized. But in my opinion neither are the models in those ads, so maybe I am crazy.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - actually, “plus-sized” models are typically regular women who aren’t overweight nor obese. 

@dukeitout_daisy@xanga - totally agree with you.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - Ha. I was about to reply to her comment. I honestly think the sarcasm in what she had to say is maybe 10%. Maybe. That’s being generous. I think it’s funny that bigger women aren’t supposed to feel slighted when they’re the subject of negative remarks–even if the remarks are sarcastic. But when the comments are taken seriously, we have no sense of humor. It’s so hypocritical.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - WIN!!!! Hahahhahahha.

@NoMoreThinSpos@xanga -  How about you read previous comments before you go off talking about things you really have no idea about?

@Xbeautifully_broken_downX@xanga - Lawl @ you. Not 10%. 100%. I used to be 215 pounds. I lost 100 pounds. I don’t think a former overweight person would be purposely saying overweight people don’t deserve underwear.

Don’t be doubting my sarcasm simply because you don’t like the fact you nearly just got trolled. 

@vixen_with_a_cause - I totally agree. I am one of those unfortunate women who doesn’t pig out and can’t exactly figure out what is wrong tha I can’t lose weight. I know there are few things that I’m not doing on a regular basis, but the problem is more in my “body” than my eating habbits. I eat WELL… and yet, at 5’4, I’m almost 200 lbs… Oh well, I guess I should just crawl in a hole right? No, I’m trying to figure out NEW ways to look at food, and exercise to help me grow in this area, AND I’m trying on a new kind of self confidence because I KNOW that I’m beautiful… (It’s just a struggle some days). Some women are bigger just because of their genetics, and what their hormones and body are doing (I’m pretty much convinced this is me) My sister is 5’7ish, ten years YOUNGER than me, eats three times as much as I do, and weighs 103 lbs or something…ugh… what?

We all process food, sugar, and weight differently, and we all have to learn how to handle it, but more over, we should ALL be beautiful and confident. Let’s not forget than in the older days, men WANTED a big woman because it meant that she was well fed, AND it showed the town that he could adequately FEED her (hence, she wasn’t starving)

BTW, she’s ABSOLUTELY beautiful… (in the commercial)

@l0veBabyx@xanga - Oh. Believe me, if we could give some of our boobs to you, we would. Well, some of us anyways. 

Obese? Overweight? ftw

The lady in the commercial looks great. I wasn’t offended by any of it, I’ve seen way worse on that station, this commercial is nothing.

them feggitz @ ABC skeerd of them poppin’ tittays n’ shit 

@Xbeautifully_broken_downX@xanga - I agree but I also know that I way overreacted to it.  It’s just nice to know that I’m not the only person it could’ve happened to.
I guess weight is a sensitive issue…then again, what isn’t?  Haha.

I also want to add that I think the attention her breasts are getting is HILARIOUS.  I’m not insulting anybody at all, I’m just highly amused.  As a big woman, I see my breasts (that look to be around the same size as hers) everyday.  A good bit of my girlfriends’ are about the same size.  I’m so used to big breasts that I forgot not everybody is used to seeing them in nothing but a bra.  Haha. 

ABC and FOX piss me off for this :/

Wow that lady is really pretty!

BUT SHE’S HOT.

Being one of those girls with huge ta-tas… I would appreciate that commercial.
I am curvy (big boobs, and pear shaped.. I’m pretty out of the ordinary.) And that commercial would make me go, “Oh, hey.. lane Bryant isn’t just for giant librarians. Look at their cute unmentionables!”
And I might actually go shop there.
Because no bras fit my giant boobies. (okay,okay.. they’re not that big 36DD….) BUT STILL. I can’t find them at Vickies. I can’t buy them at other stores.
Because I have to order online.

There is nothing wrong with this commercial.

What’s wrong is that FOX still exists.

And ABC, really? Ugh.

i don’t see anything racy about this commercial.  last time i saw a racy commercial was paris hilton’s carl’s jr. stint.  in america, i mean.

yes I would rather see this woman than the usual Skinny B’s on the Victiria’s Secret TVC’s

That is way too much cleavage regardless of waist or hip size. Victoria Secret models rarely go past a C cup. The woman on the Lane Bryant ad (who is beautiful) is very well a DD and showing a lot of it. Thats why it was banned. But its pretty much inevitable. Not many plus size models are going to have a small bust and lingerie obviously doesnt cover that.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - just because you’re flat as a board and shaped like a 12 year old boy miserable w/ your life and the only control you have over it is your diet doesn’t mean you have the right to hate.

@jennaX3rookie@xanga - Wilhelmina, Elite, and a lot of top modeling agencies consider plus size to be size 12, and up sometimes 10. Size 8 is just an awkward size too big to do runway too small to be plus size. in other words, average/healthy.

@Winsa@xanga - Damn straight! Lately I’ve been eating better and exercising more, and the weight still isn’t coming off. I’m to the point where I’ve had it with people talking about the obesity epidemic as if someone who’s a few pounds overweight is as disgustingly unhealthy as our 700+ pound record breakers. I’m going to keep up with what I’m doing, I know I’m looking and feeling more toned at the very least, but if my body won’t drop the pounds then I’m done making appoligies for it. I’m learning to love me, fat included, because my curves are pretty freakin hot. As I’ve said many times before I know I’ll never look like a Victorias Secret model (more power to those who can and be healthy!), but now I’ve grown to the point that as long as my habits are healthy, I will never again consider myself any less hot than one!

As far as I’m concerned, life is beautiful. The human mind is beautiful. And food is yummy. Life isn’t living without a slice of pizza here and there, and it also doesn’t qualify as living if someone eats so much pizza that they can’t even get out of bed to take a walk and smell the flowers! I also believe the world would be a much better place if women (and shallow men who only date women for their looks) stopped bashing eachother and stopped hating themselves. I believe that if we filled up on what we know is healthy, still left room for a serving of chips and even (omg!) a few Hershey’s Kisses, gave more compliments than disses, and took a sledgehammer to our scales, our minds would be free to focus on the more important issues in the world.

Keep up the good work; as long as you know you’re doing what’s best for you your confidence can only grow from here

I got big ass tits…

I’ve been to victoria’s secret twice in my life and got sized or whatever.The first time i went i was a 32DD and the employee said they didn’t carry that size and that i needed to get custom made bras. The second time i got sized again because I told the lady i really needed a good bra. She sized me again, and told me the lady who sized me the first time measured me wrong and that I was in fact a 34D. 
So i got me some nice way too expensive 34D bras that fit nice when i tried them on, but completely didn’t work in everyday life. My boobs fell out everytime i bent down, they were sagging, no good support. I basically wasted 150 bucks on bras that didnt fit and they wouldnt take them back because the were supposedly on sale. 
I think it’s bullshit that victoria secret gets all this airtime when most of the girls in our country can’t 1) afford them or 2) get sized right or 3) have a bra that is actually their size.
I’m all up for sexy plus sized women undies. I’m not necessarily plus size, but my big ass tits are and im tired of all my clothes making me look fat when I’m really not. 
It’s bullshit that our country’s media wont even cater to our country.
gaaah

@katethoughts@xanga - 1) Not flat as a board. 2) Not shaped like a 12 year boy. 3) Don’t have a miserable life.

Just because you just got trolled by a sarcastic comment, doesn’t mean you have the right to preach petty, untruthful things. =p

Maybe it’s not her cleavage but teh fact that she goes to lunch in her underwear… just sayin.

@SliverLines@xanga - Lol well you know where to find me when you’re feeling generous

she’s hot

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - It wasn’t obvious and based on the other responses you’ve gotten, I think others agree.  If I didn’t continue to read the exchange between you two (it looks like some people didn’t), I would’ve responded with the same reaction as @CommunismIsForLovers@xanga.  I didn’t think Communism looked like an idiot at all.  Tone isn’t always conveyed through text unfortunately.

There is a double standard in this society. Period.

@Delphiki@xanga - I can agree that tone isn’t easily conveyed with text. But I did add a “lol” at the end of it for a reason. 

They have no idea what real full figured women look like.  This is depressing, considering I am one of them :*(

 being overweight isn’t healthy. 

@bittersweetSarah@xanga - Still, you show me a 10/12 sized obese woman, then I’ll be quiet.

Calling women like that obese is a huge factor in the self image problem so many people have.

@danceballerina@xanga - I don’t necessarily thing she’s overweight.  She’s got a little extra, but I don’t think she’s anywhere in the unhealthy range.
Being thin doesn’t always mean you’re healthy.  This woman may live a longer and healthier life than any of the VS models.  Or she may not.  Life can go either way.  Either way, you die in the end.

@Delphiki@xanga - I appreciate it.  I feel much better now, haha.  The guilt and embarrassment got to me…I’m not necessarily always such a mean person.  It was kind of like the last drop of water that causes something to overfill, haha.

They will air stick thin models in their commercials, and stick thin actresses in their shows, but obviously it’s not okay to have bigger women anywhere on their networks. Assh*les. That’s so ridiculous when half the women on tv now are in the unhealthy-thin category, but plus-sized women are made to feel like fat unhealthy pigs more and more (been there, felt that). I know quite a few people who will actually be rude to women that they don’t consider thin enough. Get a grip America.

And I think the woman in the ad is gorgeous.

I don’t think it’s because she’s fat. I think it’s more because she’s so fucking gorgeous that I’d fap to it whenever it would come on. Even if my parents were home. I’d think this commercial would gave many young boys their first erections.

Seriously! Look at her!

DAAAAAYYYUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMM

I see nothing racy nor suggestive in this ad. I’ve seen worse in other ads and programs. 

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - Plus-size modeling hardly advocates obesity. Some people just aren’t extra skinny like normal models. MOST people arent, actually. Having wide hips or big boobs doesn’t make you obese, obviously. Healthy, plus-size women should be able to model too.

Now, if they were modeling for the half-ton teens, that’d be a different story.

that’s just bullshit.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - youre fucking retarded.  if you think thats obese, you desperately need a reality check.

@Charmandy@xanga - Says the retard who took me seriously and never bothered to look at the other comments before commenting themselves. 

Gtfo, kthnx.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Ah, I see what you mean, but lol doesn’t always indicate that it was a joke. :T  The way it looked to me was (this is exaggerated, but it was the impression I got), “We shouldn’t be advertising lingerie for obese people, hahahaha, cuz who wants to look at fat people?”  Not, “We shouldn’t be advertising lingerie for obese people… just kidding!”   ._.

Anyway, I’m just saying that it was easily misinterpreted.  I’m glad it was sorted out.

@CommunismIsForLovers@xanga - Understandable.

@boxes_they_put_us_in@xanga - So it’s okay if Victoria’s Secret glamourizes eating disorders?

It would be nice to see a girl over size 6 in a commercial so that bigger girls don’t have to feel alienated all the time.  I don’t see this commercial, or any plus-size clothing ad campaign, as advocating obesity.  It’s advocating clothes that fit differently sized bodies.

I’ll just throw it out there that I am an overweight girl (trying very hard to change) but it really makes a person feel like sh*t when every single girl on TV, movies, and in magazines, is really thin.  As much as you try to ignore societal standards of beauty, the message still sinks in.  If you don’t like it, find the remote and change the channel.  I don’t like to see dead bodies being cut up on CSI so I change the channel, other people can do the same for a damn commercial.

Let’s get this straight. The model in this commercial is not obese so I don’t get all this “glamorized” obesity shit. And you wonder why the skinny little girl in first grade calls her fellow classmate a pig, which is okay for the skinny little girl, but you know you’d feel like shit if you were the one being called names.

Maybe I’m overgeneralizing or what not, but I honestly didn’t think America was so against fat people, not even fat, we’re just talking about some meat here according to this commercial. Of course everyone has their own opinion, but honestly, skinny isn’t the only thing that defines beauty.

that girl was finger licking mmm, mmm, mmm good
to be honest she’s not obese.

the best fat to have is in the thigh area anywho.

and if she WAS obese, she would have rolls of fat on her tummy.
all i saw were imaginary signs flashing “FERTILE!”

air the commercials! 

MORE BOOBS, I SAY!

Weird. Doesn’t look any different from what I already see on TV. Anyway of the cleavage that gets such airtime wouldn’t naturally show up on a skinny woman. It helps to be a little plus sized to naturally have that.

 Usually the commercials only include teensy weensy girls that are as flat chested as a man. I think Lane Bryant has a case! If they air victoria’s secret commercials, then they should air Lane Bryant’s. 

I personally love the ad and there is nothing racy about it… 

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Because the woman in the commercial is totally obese.

*rolls eyes*

I think they should air it. I’d rather see what REAL women look like than these stick thin models.

@TheGildedCage@xanga - 1) Joking. That’s been established. 2) Real women don’t look overweight. 3) Read other comments before automatically responding. 

Kthnxbai.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - hmm I was being sarcastic.

someone forgot their humor this morning.

@TheGildedCage@xanga - So you don’t think they should air it, and that real women don’t look like that?

‘Kay.

@ChristinaPlague@xanga - Ok. Follow along closely.

I said “because the woman in the commercial is totally obese”

That is what was sarcastic. I think they SHOULD air it because I’m sick of seeing an unrealistic idea of beauty all over the tv. Show some real women for once.

She is a hell of a lot better than those “you are a BOMBSHELL” Victoria Secret commercials with the size 2 women in those ridiculous push up bras.  They’re just jealous of women who actually HAVE cleavage to show off.

I think the people talking about the issue being her not being a good role model for obese girls are forgetting that most people who naturally have boobs that big are also overweight or obese. There are some small girls with boobs that large naturally, but it’s rare. And those of us with huge boobs need to know where we can buy our bras at because most stores stop at DD, which is probably why so many women actually aren’t wearing the right bra size. Before this, I didn’t know that Lane Bryant sold bras. I thought it was just clothes that my mom likes that I don’t. But now I know because of that commercial that I can go to their store and I don’t have to wait until I’m in the vicinity of a Ann’s Bra Shop to get more bras.

It’s not as racy as those VS commercials and I’ve seen those on in the middle of the afternoon. I knew VS was a “sexy clothes” store before I even actually knew what lingerie was. The ads aren’t too racy but I do think that “plus size” boobs are considered so in society even though they really aren’t. Too many porn stars with big boobs and the reasoning behind many boob jobs (wanting to be sexy) causing that probably.

That’s some very nice cleavage, those boobs must be beautiful.
Those networks are hypocrites.

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I agree.

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i think she looks gorgeous.

because she’s not obese.

ABC has no right to not air this during prime time.

not every woman in america looks like a victoria’s secret model. someare heavier and deserve to know that there is a place out there that knows they can be sexy too. and showing a commercial for it after 10pm is ridiculous.

not all women have a flat tummy. i certainly don’t. and my boobs are 38C. i approve of this commercial. I hate the VS ones since they don’t carry my size and the models are unrealistic.

There is nothing “regular” about eating disorders and breast implants. I just had a thought: if you had an eating disorder, would your body eventually start eating your breast implants? I just made myself giggle.