Fighting with someone over the internet is easy. Attacking, insulting, and tearing them down is no big deal. Harassment on the internet isn’t something new, right? Recently, while reading an issue of Glamour, an article caught my eye. It was about a woman who had her picture put up on a website. I went to that website and what I saw was just outrageous.
Some might say this website is all in good fun, but others would definitely disagree. TheDirty.com is a website made solely to harass and attack normal women. Users can submit pictures of women, and other users can bash on them. Looking through the site all these women were good looking! Yet people still commented things like, “giant beak” or “parking lot forehead.” All I could hope for is that no one would ever post my own picture up.
It’s degrading and unnecessary. It makes people’s self-worth go down. There’s an age-old saying that goes, “If you’ve got nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” On the internet it’s as though people forget that they’re still interacting with real people who have feelings. It’s dumb to think we can all get along, because we don’t really have to. On the internet you’ll interact with many different people, some of whom you won’t see eye to eye with, but attacking them won’t change a thing.
This isn’t the only website of its kind and it’s not the only place where harassment occurs. Even here on Lovelyish there are commenters who get ballsy and begin name-calling. Why? Because they can! The anonymity of the internet makes one feel powerful and brave. They can rattle off anything they think of without repercussions. I know this post won’t change everyone’s opinions, and won’t prevent people from making fun of other users, but I do hope that they’ll think twice before calling someone else a “bitch” or a “cunt.”
Lovelies is this a topic that hits close to home? Have you ever made fun of someone over the internet, or been made fun of?
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hey it’s happening to me right now (though it’s slowed down for a bit) and trust me, it stinks, IT sucks because my culprits are people i know that just would rather hide behind anonymous names because they can. It’s like “hey if they cant figure out who i am, i can go hurt whoever i want because i can never get caught”
It’s seriously not cool, and kind of sad that people have the time to devote in their lives to something like this, Like seriously, go read a book or something
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I’m guilty of being unnecessarily harsh over the net at times, but I do my best to check myself. When I get fired up and pissed off at a comment I see, I’ll get sarcastic and frustrated. I don’t purposely insult others, though, not like people do on that site you posted up – that’s just awful…
I think it may be an outlet for those who have a hard time wording themselves IRL. Writing’s easier, whatever.
But you’re right, it’s still not fair to be a bitch, especially when the person you’re directing your message to doesn’t particularly deserve it.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
Hey, I call people a cunt online and in person, as long as they deserve it (you’re racist? Yeah, then you’re a cunt, for example). I did however call a poster here a cunt once and regret that one. It was me having a short fuse.
But creating an entire website about that is ridiculous. I was internet stalked for years and it was terrible thing to go through. I was young and stupid and an insecure teenager.
You really need to have a thick skin when posting online. A lot of people who get bullied (or are bullies) online are very young and don’t think much about the consequences of their actions and forget the bit that everything you post online is basically permanent, or they take everything very personally and any little comment hurts a lot. Needless to say I wish I didn’t have internet access when I was 14,
sunflower / 362 posts
people that do this make me sick-_-.
this is happening to my friend on her formsprin, and the things people say are just nasty.
dahlia / 2382 posts
I hate when people do this. It’s easy to be big & bad on a computer but people wont do that to faces. Just because you’re talking to a picture or screen name doesnt mean there isnt someone behind it.
The only 2 reasons I dont shut down my xanga is because 1: It’s my page & I write for myself & no one else. And 2: For every bad comment, I get 9 good ones. People who troll online to insult people have no life & like any other bully they try to build themselves up by tearing others down.
People should be careful. There’s laws in place now to protect people from online harrassment. It’s not funny when someone gets arrested for acting like an idiot on the internet.
orchid / 105 posts
I have my reasons I’m on Xanga, 1. Its my blog and I want to write what I feel like writing,if you don’t like it stay off my page. 2. I get sucky comments and then I get good ones.
Its a give and take issue-I hate the harassment I have dealt with it.
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holy shit! 0_o
The internet has now reached another low.
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This Is A Hot Or Heated Topic! Everybody Will And Should Have Their Say On How They Feel About This Subject! For My Thought On This Subject, It Starts Out On The Beginning Of Technology Of The Internet Or You Might Say The World Wide Web.
The People Who Created This Internet Did Not Know How This Big Thing Was Going To Evolve! They Have Made Up The Rules As This Technology Goes Along On It’s Path, We Are Part Of The Journey And As A Big Wide World Of Users From Many Different Countries, Hopefully The Rules Will Come In Harmony For All Users Of Different Walks Of Life For Everyone To Follow, Respect, Their Fellow Human Being! The Deal Is The Internet Or World Wide Web Is Not Perfect!!
They Are Still Working On It! And Keep Putting These Articles Out, Because We Can Help To Make It A Better Internet For Everyone!
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so ironic, I was just writing someone a letter that was mean and condescending.
rose / 917 posts
I do not think one person has not be effected/affected by this problem. As long as human beings are alive and kicking there will be drama and slams and anything else they can think of
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I just went on that site. This will make me re-consider some things I say on the internet…
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I thought the website was pretty boring…
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This went down on another site I frequented not too long ago. A girl had a picture of herself on display where she had a star covering her cleavage. One person took that picture without her permission and made a discussion about how stupid she was for hiding her cleavage after taking a shot at that angle. Then everyone else suddenly took it upon themselves to start bashing her appearance as well. She hadn’t done anything wrong. She hadn’t been rude to anyone, but they were all so quick to judge her. I was really disturbed by it, because I could imagine myself being in her shoes. Even if these people are strangers you still don’t want your flaws to be brutally put on blast like that. I think it’s a real problem on the internet to remember that there are people on the other sides of those screens. Not everyone is just some troll.
edit: I just went to the site and I have to say that Nik must be one lonely sob…
sunflower / 389 posts
YES! Anyone remember our freindly lovelyish-neighborhood misogynist?
I can deal with being harassed, I can even ignore it to a degree. The point is, the initial harassment from the user in the wrong can only go to a certain extent before the user being targeted decided to stand up for themself, which automatically turns standing up for oneself into harassment.
Personally, as much as I love Xanga and all it’s affiliated sites, THEY NEED TO GET OFF THEIR AS$ES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE ARE CLEARLY LIMITS ON HOW MUCH PROTECTION WE CAN OFFER OURSELVES.
So if anyone is finally listening to me, I appreciate it
Xanga is a great place and would be a lot friendlier if a user could block replies to comments from specific users! (Unless you can already do that, in which case someone please let me know!).
hydrangea / 93 posts
So, after reading around on that website, the guy clearly is in it for the laughs. He points out the worst aspects of each woman, and some of them are so minute it’s ridiculous. I actually loled several times because it was like the chick was gorgeous and he was like “no, I wouldn’t do her because she has thunder thighs.” Her thighs were… normal. Otherwise, the chick was gorgeous. I loled.
Also, most of the girls on the website seem to be the stereotypical “slutty hot chick” that most guys supposedly drool for. I’m calling out the low-class humor, but humor nonetheless.
That’s what a lot of trolling is anyways. People don’t give a shit about the faceless people on the internet. And in a way — you shouldn’t. Yes, we’re all people, but we need to develop a thick skin, especially against people who have no idea who we are.
EDIT: Oh hey, check it out. Disclaimer:
“TheDirty.com, The world’s first ever reality blogger™ is all about gossip and satire. The content that is published contains rumors, speculation, assumptions, opinions, and factual information. Postings may contain erroneous or inaccurate information. All images are credited to their original location. The owner of this site does not ensure the accuracy of any content presented on TheDirty.com. ©”
More lols.
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Tch, the internet has found another way to bash and harass other people… very nice! *sarcasm*
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I’m harsh, but it’s because I debate. I would never be rude without due cause though, mostly because I’d like respect, too. I hope to get what I give.
And that’s healthy conversation that doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings, but simply explains views.
ranunculus / 3457 posts
@vixen_with_a_cause - You can block users from commenting on your site specifically, but sadly, we can’t block their comments in other sites (as in, you’ll still see them) and they are still able to reply to you in those other sites even if you blocked them.
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I get sick of people on Xanga who just attack attack attack – frankly it’s pathetic.
There have been certain people on here who have disagreed with my opinion – fair enough – but instead of debating it or simply being rational in their reply they go straight to cursing at me and telling me how pathetic and immature I am… What?! It’s ridiculous. Not only does it prove that they clearly don’t have an opinion on the topic or what I’m actually saying, but also that they’re just on here to deliberately raise havoc and make somebody’s evening miserable. People should just think twice before anything they say, whether it’s on the internet or in ‘real life’ – who knows if there’s something going on in their life? What if you hit a weak spot and that person does something terrible as a result? Even if that terrible thing is ‘just’ the huge extent their self-esteem is affected..
- Ranting&straying – haha.
Anyway, that site..
The first thing that came up was an image, of a quite attractive female, with a story underneath about how she cheated on her SO… Maybe people put these photos up there so others can slate them, making them feel better about the situation!?It’s still harsh though.. :/
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I’ve opened that website and felt like it’s really crazy. I feel like wanting to delete all my facebook photos just because I don’t want that to happen to me.From now on, I’ll be more careful about the pictures I post and the friends I accept or add.
This also happens when people start to steal your pictures and fake a profile with your pictures on. And say, you’re a bitch or something like that. I once had a faker who keeps on posting my pictures
up and say that I am emo or something. I was all f*cked up. I just wished that person would choke.
But really, people has their own opinions or judgments about us. Negative or positive, we have nothing to do with that. Sometimes, I just ignore them. They’re just complicating their lives over things that should never matter to them, or they should never even think too much about.
I never tried debating or harassing people over the internet. Even when I see something like maybe someone is copying my style, or stealing pictures, or maybe saying something really rude to me, I go what the f*ck sitting here in front of the computer but I won’t fight them off on the internet. I think it’s really nonsense.
sunflower / 389 posts
@MoonFaeEyryan@xanga - Hehe, thanks for letting me know! That’s what gets me: I am the girl that goes by the old That 70′s Show quote from Hyde: “When Zen ends, a$$ kicking begins!”. I really can keep my Zen to a certain extent, but when it turns into discriminating against half the human race because “there is no reason that women should be proud to be women” which leads me to how any human being (regardless of race, size, gender, etc) that has accomplished something worth being proud of should be proud!
That, my friend, is where my Zen ends! I say we fight for Xanga to give us an actual Full User Block feature so that certain users can’t even respond to our comments. If you’re with me, let me know. The more voices heard, the better!
sunflower / 389 posts
@belladonnabutterflies@xanga - Thank you! I have had at least 3 Xanga users attack me in the same fashion that you described: attack, attack, attack, with no empathy or maturity who then project their own personal flaws on to me. There is a line between respectful, friendly debates (that we can all learn something from) and straight-up harassment. No one should have to deal with that crap, and you are absolutely right when you say it’s pathetic. Yay for Xangans who are mature enough to know better!
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Trolls.
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Harrassing people over the internet is for dummies.
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I agree with your point all right. You should never say something bad about someone IF THAT is all that you have to say. My parents harped on that when I was younger. I knew a long time ago that they were right. Many times it is not the person anyway; it’s the topic. “Bitch” as you stated can do with the term in reference to complaining . . . As . . . “She is bitching all the time about something..” However, the C-Word should never ever be used . . . Even if you are describing a female member of Congress. That is the lowest name that you can hang on a female. Whore, Puta, and Prostitute, all might refer more to a service or employment; whether it is reported to the IRS or not . . . But on the same token a person should be able to defend his/her own ground (own personal opinion) if someone is really building up some “Hillary Clinton type” or perhaps even saying such stuff as, “Boy! Those Brussel Sprouts always taste so delicious!” I mean, I am not about to take that . . . I’m sorry. I simply can NOT do such a thing. It’s not being fair to me . . . I obviously don’t care about Hillary Clinton & Brussel Sprouts . . . But someone is going to have to really, really convince me that they are so great; or perhaps they should not be sharing their personal opinion on the Internet. On TV I just simply push one button on the Remote either UP or DOWN when I immediately see the beginning of a Commercial that makes me sick because of lies. I can’t do that on the Internet. Therefore, it is only fair that I defend my ground. I also respect others ideas as well, but I am not going to use the Internet to spout off a bunch of lies related wholely to personal opinion.
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Fuck you and fuck everyone that’s replied to this crying like a little bitch. You’re all bitches.
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I think it’s ridiculous now that for example, with the increase of cyber-bullying, there has been so many suicides of students in schools. what happened to the old days when you just take it outside and duke it out, then become best friends afterwards? only not really…
sunflower / 257 posts
I was a victim of cyberbullying in elementary school. People who talk down on others are just trying to make up for something missing in their own lives
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I get attacked on here and it hurts my feelings. When i was younger my dad used to call me fatass and stuff like that because i was obviously not attractive or thin in his and everyone elses eyes and thinking about that now i still feel the same. Elementary i used to get pushed around and hair pulled. Middle school and begining of highschool were even worse. Food thrown at me and more name calling and even tho noone picks on me anymore for my weight, my ‘friends’ will find anything that they think is wrong with me and bring it to attention. Makes me feel like shit. Number one reason i dont leave the house but now the internet is bringing the horror back. I’m afraid to just say one thing without everyone jumping on my ass and calling me and idiot for no reason. Feeling like i’ve attacked them when i hadnt. Its hard to get your tone across in cold hard typing.
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Maybe those people who harass others are too depressed with themselves, that they feel that they will be a much bigger person if they make fun of others. Well, I hate to bring you down to size but the only person who should harass others is nobody. I think people should just write out their feelings on a piece of paper, then throw it away. They should get all their thoughts down, let the pain come out, then toss the paper away. Writing is therapeutic, it’s easy, and nobody has to read what you wrote. Do this instead of bugging others online. You do not need to censor your thoughts, worry about spelling/grammar, or whether it makes sense. All you need is for your thoughts to make sense to you. You are the only one who will read what you have written. So do not worry about sentence construction or anything you learned in school, none of that matters. Release your pain by using words that only you can see.
Then tear that paper to shreds (if you want) and toss the scraps away. Continue doing this until the pain is gone.
There don’t you feel much better now?
rose / 785 posts
i think you are all bitch cunts.
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I’ve never understood why people are mean SIMPLY to be mean. For the most part I made it through my youth without too many online mishaps. Sure, I’ve been in the typical online fight, but I haven’t been harrassed *knock on wood* But the people who make websites like this make me sick. When I was in high school, and Myspace was still huge, a group of anonymous school kids got together and made a page called “Ashley Trashers.” They went through the various grades and posted all the people they hated, and had everyone comment on how much they hated this person and why. One of my friends (she was younger than me) made it on the page, and I couldn’t believe what they said. This girl is one of THE nicest people I’ve ever met in my life. She’s always positive, she never does things to hurt people’s feelings, and she does what she can to cheer others up. Evidently being a GOOD person is reason enough to make fun of someone. I never told her she was on it, because I didn’t want her to see it. Good people don’t deserve to read that garbage and be hurt.
When it came time to list the hated seniors, I didn’t bother to check and see if my name was on it. I knew I would be (I had a very good high school experience, but the people who didn’t like me REALLY didn’t like me), and I can honestly say that’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It was hard to resist, but I knew that it would only hurt my self-esteem, and I’d have a hard time getting over it. These were people I’d probably never see again anyway, so why let them get under my skin?
The people who create these pages are just pathetic. Do they so desperately need to feel important that they have to go and tear others down anonymously? It must really suck to be that insecure…
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@vixen_with_a_cause - Yes! (: I enjoy it when people debate – but attack? Won’t get anyone anywhere.
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@millionofstars@xanga - “Writing is therapeutic, it’s easy, and nobody has to read what you wrote.” Exactlyyy what Xanga’s here for – well one of many reasons, anyway – but they should do it on their own damn blogs instead of clogging up the comments of someone elses!
sunflower / 392 posts
people are bitches on the internet cause they know they won’t receive any lash from it like in reality. but i remember that news report where a 14 year old girl killed herself cause she thought a boy down the street said to her on myspace she is ugly and should die really when it was an older women. people are nucking futs.
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Humans are stupid creatures, we really are. Never has a truer word been said than that of “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” Seriously, it’s cruel and un-necessary. Before you start telling someone they have a big nose or a crooked smile, how would you feel if someone said you had aids and you were a prostitute?
daffodil / 1622 posts
boo that lame butt site
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HAHA THAT IS THE PERFECT WEBSITE
thanks for the link.