Mark Fast, a designer known for his tight, stretchy knitwear was sure to equally represent women of all sizes at his Fall 2010 show at London Fashion Week. Crystal Renn was among the plus-sized models that wore his designs on the runway. I’m going to be honest here, and I hope you won’t misunderstand my point: I think this was a bad idea.
Not because I have anything against plus-sized models in general, but because I think that Mark Fast’s clothes, whether he realizes it or no, are not meant to be worn by anyone who doesn’t have the body of Britney Spears circa 2001. I’m saying every little bump shows. If Kate Moss ate some grapes before putting one of these dresses on, you’d be able to tell. These girls look terrible. There, I said it. Not because they’re unattractive in general-I mean, they’re models for crying out loud-but because these clothes fit them horribly. I appreciate that he took a stand as a designer and is embracing something other than rail-thin models, however these photos make me cringe because I feel like he inadvertently is going to add support here for the old excuse “It’s about the clothes, and they show better on skinny models.” If he wanted to include size 12+ models, couldn’t he have given them clothes that fit?
London Mail reported “Last year Fast’s stylist and creative director walked out three days before his show, apparently in protest at being asked to work with the ‘plus size’ models.” This obvious makes the unnamed creative director sound awful, but I wonder if perhaps he wasn’t objecting to plus-sized models in general, just for these particular clothes.
Do you think this was a good idea on Mark Fast’s part? Please keep in mind I’m not asking(and don’t want) you to judge anyone’s bodies here. I’m just wondering if I’m the only one here that thinks that these clothes are a bad match for plus-sized models?

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Bellies are cute. I like the clothes.
sunflower / 266 posts
I agree, it was a bad choice.
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I do believe they should have been in something that fitted better but I’m still happy to see it. better luck next time right?
magnolia / 1296 posts
the title of this was kinda snarky. but i mean, i have nothing against “plus sized” women, i think its awesome they’re on the runway, but yes, those are not the most flattering outfits.
orchid / 217 posts
I agree.. yay for all body types… boo for bad planning.
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The clothes would be cute if not so tight. And I would hardly call those women plus-sized. I guess to the modeling industry they are, but they’re probably what, between sizes 6 and 10? Definitely not plus-sizes.
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I think that, although the clothes look a bit too tight on some of the models, that they still look beautiful. You can easily see the shape and curve of their bodies. I would argue that the clothes are bad, but the models are damn sexy. Women don’t have to be a size 2 to be sexy.
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Nothing wrong with a plus sized model but there are some things that they shouldn’t model and this is probably one of them. It does nothing to flatter their figure. The outfits are cute though.
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We all have different body types and I think that we should respect that by wearing clothes that fit us. So yeah, I thought it was a bad idea.
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Knitwear is for everybody, even for the plus-sized.
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Why are these models captured in unflattering poses? :[
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Yes, they should have had better fitting clothes. In the right clothes, these girls would be beautiful.
hydrangea / 57 posts
Maybe they were meant to be too tight to show that plus-sized models shouldn’t be used? Just a theory.
(Although I personally think they should be used, just in clothing that fits.)
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They definitely aren’t plus-sized.. I hate that term for people who are average/skinny.
The clothes would look awesome if they only fit right. I see so many girls walking around that look terrible.. but if they had only bought their jeans a size up they wouldn’t have love handles or a muffin-top problem. I’m a little disappointed to see that a designer (who supposedly knows what they’re talking about) is making that same kind of mistake.
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I agree, the clothes don’t look nice, not because the models are fat, but because they simply just don’t fit. Even on a skinny girl if she wears something that doesn’t fit her, it just looks stupid. I kinda think he did that on purpose though, as if he wanted to make a point with them or something.
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and as for the first picture….most of them shouldn’t be labeled as “plus” sized.
dahlia / 2382 posts
People are just being hardasses, they dont look bad. Gosh. walk around your neighborhood if you want to see some really bad fashion mistakes.
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those dresses are terrible. not only are they unflattering, they look like cheap generic dresses that skanky girls wear to go clubbing in. how is this on the runway?
daisy / 630 posts
the girl in the green is plus sized!?
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I completely agree. That’s why I’m not against the fashion industry using skinny models. It’s business. They’re trying to sell clothes so they have people wear them so the clothes look better. I wouldn’t be attracted to buying those clothes that he put out on the runway cause the clothes aren’t displayed so that they look good.
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Generally designers use skeletor-like models because they’re lazy and don’t want to have to think about making their clothes flattering and wearable. Tight stretchy knitwear is not flattering on anyone, it shows everything. Even the twiggiest models in the first picture don’t look entirely right in it, you can see tights waistband lines. It’s a lousy design no matter who would be wearing it. The designer should have used a different fabric.
sunflower / 304 posts
yeah. it looks bad. this is why designers use skinny models, they’re afraid using
“plus-size” (normal women) will make their clothes look like this. in actuality, they should design clothes that flatter more normal body types.
rose / 847 posts
To me, it’s not bad sizing – it’s overall bad design. No one needs to wear anything that’s that skin tight. It’s a waste of fabric to even make something so impractical and it looks really uncomfortable because that kind of clothing will find any nook and cranny to cram itself into no matter what size you are.
cherry blossom / 45 posts
it’s not the fashion mistake. It’s just tacky. Tummy is good, but when you look like a sausage with a rubber band wrapped around you… that’s bad. This coming from not a stick thin girl.
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I totally agree, and made a similar comment on the original post with these pics. I think having plus-sized models is great, but let’s dress them correctly! Goodness….
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the sad thing is that these models are even that fat and yet they are “plus sized” in the fashion industry. the reason why this is so unflattering is that the clothes on them are ugly, fat or skinny, no one should wear it unless they are Lady Gaga. it seems like these tight wear was designed for people who have .04% body fat on their body (made for an ant).
daisy / 555 posts
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - no way! yuck!
hydrangea / 84 posts
oooooo yea…probably not a god idea. I’m all for plus-sized models on the runway, but that just looks unappealing.
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the girls look miserable. I dont think those would look good on anyone. the first one looks like some cirque de rejects the middle one looks like its worn by the office slut on a christmas party. and the last? wtf trailor park sexy? its like baggy stained sweatpants should be worn over it.
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The clothes just look a few sizes too small…
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I just don’t like the last pic. The rest is okay.
Once again is just depends on perception. Not one opinion is right.
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it doesnt even look real. that first girl doesnt even have boobs. its all just in her stomach. that sucks.
yah bad idea dude.
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I can’t believe that’s considered plus sized. o.O
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@JordanThai - oh bad taste. bellies are beautiful
orchid / 169 posts
I agree. People should always dress to accentuate the positive, it’s nothing personal.
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This is exactly why the clothes in the ‘regular’ stores and plus sized stores are completely different. Because people make clothing to fit a certain body type. A thin person buying clothes from torrid would look just as equally unnattractive as a plus sized person would buying a baby tee from pacsun.
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@Shinbi_Belldandy@xanga - totally agree haha
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i think you’re an asshole for publishing this in the first place.
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i don’t think the average woman would feel comfortable wearing something that tight. it’s like they’re emphasizing the negative aspects instead of showing them how to turn it into a positive. why not enhance the nice cleavage and curve instead of zooming in on the not-so-flat belly?
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I agree. The point of fashion is to make people look good with flattering clothes. I appreciated that he was trying to make a statement, but he was so damn misguided.
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And the plus {using the term loosely} regular size thing does not matter. There are plenty of skinny minnys who would look just as awful in these outfits. Damn. Shame.
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Plus sized models should always have the opportunites that stick models have. Also, these women do NOT look plus sized. Also, none of this shit would look good on anyone, so I don’t know why people are up in a tizzy about them wearing this horrid knit-wear. Its stretchy, but in the wrong direction, so anyone who isn’t the stick body shape will look horrid in this crap.
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i have nothing against fitted clothing on plus sized people. i used to be a size 16
but there’s a difference between fitted and too small. and those clothes are one size too small on all of those models. it makes them actually look bigger than they are.
unfortunate really, because they’re all good looking
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - I’m sure guys do not have the same opinion as you. Or at least majority of them.
dahlia / 2382 posts
@achingquotes@xanga - Wow you were harder than I was but yeah this post was totally wrong. There are women & girls who have figures like that & people trashing them is bad. Making them think this body type is horrible makes heroin chic & bone skinny the way to go. The dresses were a little tight but there sure as hell werent fat. I meant what I said in my original comment too, I’ve seen worse on the street & I dont see anything wrong with these girls at all.
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@irynad@xanga - It doesn’t matter what the majority thinks.
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Eh they rock it no matter what. Beautiful women no matter what the size. I think those clothes should just be torched… just saying I wouldnt wear any of it.
daffodil / 1540 posts
@Demolitiongurl88@xanga - very well put, totally agree.
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Okay, their outfits aren’t so flattering, but plus size? Them? Really? Do I then fall into the morbidly obese category then??
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Agreed.
@irynad@xanga - My inbox is telling me that you replied to my comment earlier, but I can’t find it. Was it deleted, or am I just crazy?
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if I ever become plussized I WILL WEAR WHATEVER I WANT
including tightknitwear and neon colourz and flashy tights and big gold hoop earrings and I will be as chavvy as I want I don’/t xaewljk;,
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - alright then, if only what you think matter, have fun in life with that attitude!
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - okay, whose opinion does matter then?
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@irynad@xanga - I didn’t say that. I said it doesn’t matter what the majority thinks. Read more carefully.
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@irynad@xanga - The opinion of intelligent people.
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - how do you define intelligent? And what if an intelligent person (by your definition, whatever it is) finds an unhealthy body (incl. tummy fat) unhealthy?
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - I don’t understand where you are going with this. Excess fat on your body is unhealthy (as we already established), thus I would expect intelligent people to find unhealthy bodies unattractive
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irynad@xanga - What if an intelligent person finds an unhealthy body, unhealthy? Well I would say that makes logical sense…
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@irynad@xanga - I said bellies were cute. I didn’t say excess fat was healthy. I don’t get where you are going with this…
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - alright,lets get this straight, do you mean bellies as in a part of your body? Or bellies as in fat on the rectus abdominal muscles?
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@irynad@xanga - yes, the whole belly. the fat too.
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I think he did it to prove a point, in the context you provided, because ugh! It does not look cute!
cherry blossom / 48 posts
@herecomesthemoon@xanga - No, she is not. Crystal Renn, who is behind her in tan, is.
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@achingquotes@xanga - Well, thats upsetting. I wasn’t trying to be. In another post, I wrote about how the makeup and styling at Gwen Stefani’s runway show turned me off from the clothes. I think this is the same type of criticism. I don’t think these models were not the right choice for this particular line. Just like there are certain tops like look silly on flatchested girls, or certain cuts thats unflattering to very skinny women. I’m pale, so I avoid pale colors. And I felt I had to say something because honestly in this particular case, blindly applauding the designer because he used plus sized models makes plus sized supporters look foolish, because anyone can see these clothes clothes don’t flatter these girls. I’m all for plus-sized models, just don’t try and squeeze in the same clothes a sample size girl wears.
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1. They are NOT plus sized.
2. The clothes look fine – there are bigger women with better bodies that would carry this type of design better.
3. Perhaps the size should have suited the models instead of using standard size 0. If we don’t start representing real womens bodies now, how do we explain to our children that they should be ok with their body shape?
Personally, I think the author could have choosen something a little more worthy to write about instead of getting inflamatory about the use of REAL sized models.
orchid / 222 posts
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Models are supposed to make me want to buy clothes, not make me “feel better about myself”. If I see a size 12 model in these clothes and they hug EVERY bump of fat, it’s not going to inspire my size 10 ass to buy anything from that line at all.
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@_____@ too tight…
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I completely agree. I don’t even have to say much because the original post says it all. And I’m def a plus sized girl yet I don’t even think most plus sized women should wear most high fashion clothing. I’ve tried, just doesn’t look right with the big hips, tits and ass. I end up noticing the girl more then the outfit and that isn’t the point of walking down the runway.
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The designs are beautiful and I love the fact that this show included plus-sized models, however, a better fit would have been nice. They look like they were meant for very thin models and that they just decided last minute to throw in some plus-sized women into the mix.
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These clothes look like they weren’t made for them. They would look better if they were made a little different. It has nothing to do with the models.
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i think it’s pretty obvious that those clothes are
A) UGLY.
B) not flattering, especially on girls with some meat on their bones.
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The only reason we think this looks bad is because we’ve all been conditioned by the fashion industry to think so. If we had grown up with models like these and they started using skinny models, we would all say how the clothes sag on their bodies. I’m so tired of that excuse “it’s harder to design fashion for bigger models”.. so the fuck what. Fashion designers make a hell of a lot of money anyway, why shouldn’t they broaden their horizons? Curvier, bigger girls can look hella good in clothes, as long as the clothes are made to fit their bodies!
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Agreed, and most women have them.
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ahh, I agree with you. Fashion designers who can design clothes that actually look good on average sized people these days… I would say earn a 100%.
I mean, sure the idea of plus sized models is great… but I wouldnt wear that kind of clothes with that bodytype.
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He could’ve just given the bigger girls some spanx to smooth out the bumps under such tight fabric.
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Yeah, it’d look much more flattering to their figures if the clothes appeared to actually fit…
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Terrible TERRIBLE idea.
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@herecomesthemoon@xanga - i know right?
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1) I hate the term “plus size”. They are all average. And the first woman in the first pic is what I would call more fit than plus.
2) I agree with the comments that NO ONE looks good in outfits like this.
3) I disagree with the notion that skinny models are used because its business. Clothes at Fashion Week are like the cars at the International Car Show: theyre made so the designers can show off the extremes of their creativity, but no one actually buys it because its impractical. With the exception of some jeans and the basic “looks” a lot of the fahion shows are just mobile art.
4) but I believe THAT is why super thin models are used. It fits the extreme-ness of the clothing. Ive noticed in other photo spreads the more outrageous the clothes, the thinner the models. Its all about extremes.
5) I dont know if the designer was trying to say that everyone is beautiful regardless of size therefor even plus size women should be able to wear the outfits, OR if he was making the point that plus sized women shouldnt wear the outfits by showcasing just how badly the clothes look.
6) I really dont know why I numerated my points. lol But it kept me from ranting so…right on.
hydrangea / 72 posts
They only look bad because the dresses are ugly. Well I would never wear that. I think if he added some dresses with nice bright colors would make it look better. It looks too plane.
rose / 917 posts
They do not look horrid at all
daffodil / 1622 posts
bad design :S
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models thin or plus sized are suppose to wear whatever the designer designs and work it even if it is an unappealing design. people wanted to see “curvy” women other than the usual thin models and when a model with some chub prances the runway, people think it looks disgusting
he is giving the complainers something they asked for. if a curvy woman with a toned stomach shows up, then some still say that she is still considered on the slim side compared to the average woman with stomach rolls. it seems like no matter what, somebody will have something to say. I think the hairstyle is what ruined the look more than their slight body fat.
sunflower / 331 posts
It has nothing to do with them, it’s the clothing. It’s obviously not the right size.
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What’s wrong with a healthy human body? I don’t like the clothes because of the clothes: I wouldn’t like them on everyone. And when something is tacky, I dislike it on everyone. Leggings as pants = tacky on everyone. But I don’t believe that there are clothes for skinny people and clothes for everyone else. That’s just society telling you that weight should dictate interactions.
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the girls look fine.. the clothes do not
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Thank you! I read a blog about it yesterday and was baffled that the author was just all woot about plus size models regardless of how they looked!
orchid / 116 posts
I still don’t see how any of them look plus-sized.
sunflower / 391 posts
It seems like he’s making a mockery of plus-sized models by making me them look less then fabulous on the runway.
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I agree, i watched this on fashion t.v. Even tho its a healthy act for younger models and for girls that are dieing to lose weight just to be like models. I still think choosing the right model for the right cloths is a much better choice.
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The clothing just isn’t very flattering.
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@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Agreed. Bellies are sexy.
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it’s definitely a bad idea.
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your right this will only further encourage designers to use thin models
good intent terrible execution
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these clothes flatter nobody. no matter how thin.
orchid / 104 posts
bad bad bad fitting.
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@herecomesthemoon@xanga - I don’t think that all the girls were ehm.. “plus sized” but he had a range of different body types to show that his clothes were for everyone. ha ha
rose / 785 posts
i agree with you. nothing wrong with them as the models they are, but there’s such a thing as ‘flattering clothing’ for everyone, and in their cases, this just isn’t it. it’s really a simple concept; i applaud the designer for trying, but he’s sort of missing the point.
body acceptance setback. if proving that “everyone can look good” is the point, then this isn’t the way to go about it. imo.
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Aw, c’mon. They don’t look bad. >.>
rose / 785 posts
also, i agree that it’s amusing that these models are considered plus sized. i mean, really, if you put them in something other than a skin-tight bodysuit, they will look good. in fact, you would be hard-pressed to find a college student who didn’t resemble them or were larger. once again, just proving my point that it’s all about choice of clothing. these girls would look great in something made for their size/shape. which, as far as i’m aware is indeed a big part of fashion? but hey, i’m no expert.
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the stomach area shows, but that’s the only downside. personally, when looking at the 1st picture, some outfits don’t look that bad, and others look suffocating.
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Skinny or fat, skintight knitwear might not be the best idea.
orchid / 234 posts
its weird
sunflower / 257 posts
agreed…
knowing how to dress your body is important. Nothing against plus size girls but the same things that look good on skinny models may not look good on plus size models and vice versa
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yup, bad choice.
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maybe i am paranoid.. I dont know but, I think he may have been doing it on purpose.
to make a statement.there were a few models that did not look plus sized… but the models that are clearly plus sized look awful..it looks almost like a (cruel) ‘joke’..
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‘Heaven forbid we see womanly curves outlined in tight clothes.
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i think they’re not bad. just a size or two smaller than what they should be :/
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These clothes are hideous. I don’t understand how that model in the red dress has such a bony face, but a bulging stomach.
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fuck that.
i like the idea.. the clothes are cute..
orchid / 204 posts
oh god i agreee! this is so embarrassing for the models! they’ll never want to add this to their portfolios!
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The dresses are too tight on even the traditional models. I don’t think the pictures are that bad, yes some of the women are plus sized but still they look better than your average women in the USA. I love how people complain that they don’t show clothes on different body types and then when they do they are like OMG ewww gross.
daisy / 630 posts
@cindyhs@xanga - …none of them look plus sized o_O
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@meghan - it’s hard to believe that any of these women are plus sized. the clothes are incredibly unflattering and tacky, but at least they’re healthy looking.
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I agree, the clothes should have been in their size not the rail thin models sizes.
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I’m not a huge fan of tight clothes on anyone (with the exception of something like a corset, which is designed to fit in only that way), but I think it’s worth considering that part of the idea of using larger models (and, for right or wrong, in the fashion industry anything over a 4 is verging on “plus”) is to get people used to the idea that different bodies fit clothes differently, wear clothes differently, and have a unique shape.
The notion of “flattering” is constantly shifting – one only has to compare trends like high and low waists or “the Rachel” compared to Vidal Sasson five point cut to see this in action. Perhaps this is meant to embrace the idea that using larger models/shifting public perception is about showing actual differences rather than simply scaled-up versions of the same silhouette.
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You are right, it is not the girls, it’s the clothes. In general, I think tight-fitting knit is a bad idea. When you put it on anything other than a mannequin, it is hideous. It is not even flattering to the stick-thin girl in front in the top picture.
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@preeminent@xanga - obnoxious much?
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For plus size models (Or looking at these women, an average woman’s body), you want to have a line that includes clothes that accentuate more of the breast area and something loose fitting around the stomach. Maybe not REALLY loose, but something that doesn’t squeeze the stomach area so much it looks like they have a million rolls.
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i agree. i don’t really think those clothe look good on anyone.
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Beautiful girls. Horrible, unflattering clothes.
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Yeah, these clothes look horrible. It looks anti-fashion. The fit is awful.. if he is trying to sell to the average woman, he’s got to take into account that they like things that are flattering… I love the models that he used, they really aren’t overweight either, just average – but wooow, his clothes look really tacky. The only reason why rail-thin models get away with everything is there isn’t much to show, but most everyone can’t look good in anything, we still choose clothes according to fit and shape. I guess he has to learn about being body-conscious.. I’m not saying a little tummy isn’t fine, but the clothes don’t really shwo off their curves too well. They can still wear tight clothes, just something a tiny bit looser, one that shows off the hips, breasts- curves, and not solely the stomach area.
rose / 855 posts
The african american girl looks sexy! The girl in red even looks good.
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how they hell is anyone supposed to “feel good about themselves” when they can palinly see they are the butt end of a joke!?!?!?!?
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they do look terrrible. sorry
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the designer was an idiot. He should have known better about his models sizes, and unless he did this on purpose which i can’t tell if he did or not, then i would give him the benefit of the doubt. but what is there to say about unfitted clothes?
the only reason why skinny – anorexic models work so well are because women with curves distract the audience, i’m sure you all understand. taller women are more flattering in the fashion industry because they place the clothes on a higher eye level. it’s the same way museums and artists display sculpture work to compliment each piece; most look better on a higher pedestal.
@Kneehola_elbowadios@xanga - i don’t think lazy is the right word. and unless you know many designers personally, i don’t think you should be so quick to judge.
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the designers must try to show us the bad side of havin +sized modals
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plus-sized models should also have a good body figure/ curves. not like the photos above..
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Look at their facial expressions – they know they look bad. Ill-fitting clothes don’t anyone justice, whether thin or plus-sized.
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I admire the fact that the designer decided to use women of varying shapes.
However…he/she should have been more conscious of how unflattering the clothing appeared. Now all focus is taken away from both the designs and the curvy women and completely directed on how awful they look. Not a good move…
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i love the fact that they are accepting plus sized models.
but it personally i think that it wasn’t a good idea to dress them like this.
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ditto
sunflower / 316 posts
It looks like the clothes are straight up too small for them – maybe if they had been made in a bigger size the result wouldn’t be quite so unflattering.
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I’m plus sized– and there’s no way in HELL i would wear any of that… 1, because it’s ugly, quite frankly, and 2, because it’s tacky. It looks trashy. If I saw a plus sized girl on the street wearing that- I would think she was a prostitute. It looks cheap.
I applaud the fashion industry for including plus size models- bravo for that!
But, couldn’t they actually dress the girls in clothes that fit or flatter– or give at least them some spanx if they are so hell bent on shoving bigger girls into the clothes that fit size 4 mannequins.
bah.
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The women they are talking about are not even plus-sized…
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@babymeatball@xanga - agreed
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IMO, if a skinny girl wears a tight, knit dress that’s 2 sizes too small for her, she’s going to look bad too. These models were clearly not wearing their own size. That’s why they look bad.
hydrangea / 84 posts
Well, it’s going to add a whole new meaning to the phrase “spring is bursting out all over” in a month or two..
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They should’ve made the dresses to fit them.
and I’ve never seen any models with worse posture.