I think the illustration is obviously exaggerated, so no, we aren’t that different. I know plentttyyyy of men who are more self-conscious than what is even healthy.
In a general sense? Yes. But like @TheRealMelanie@xanga said, it is exaggerated, and there are men who are more self conscious than some women I know. I’m not terribly self conscious (not as much as I used to be), but when meeting new people, I do wonder if they judge me because of this, that, or the other.
Do we ALL really see ourselves as being heavier??? Man I’m doomed… I must be almost paper-thin in other people’s eyes… But… but there’s no ladder on my chest!
There was that one psychological study that showed women viewed themselves as fatter than they are. They also view the ideal woman to be skinnier than she is.
@TheRealMelanie@xanga - @Morningstarrising@xanga - Obviously it’s a cartoon so it’s not really meant to be taken seriously but I also know some men like that. I know a couple of seriously huge women who see themselves as skinny too. They do seem to be the exception to the rule, but I have no stats to back that up.
@boilingicicle@xanga - I’m pretty sure not everyone sees themselves differently than they are but I know a lot who do. An idea for how to test whether or not you are judging your size fairly when you look at yourself is to see if you can pick out clothes and end up getting a pretty good fit without looking at the size on the tag. I can go into a store and tell by looking at something if it will fit me, sometimes I’m off just a tiny bit but never to the point that it would be unwearable. One of my friends always picks up something that’s wayyyyyy tooo small for her and another always picks up things that will swallow her whole. I hate to shop with them because it takes forever and they’re always upset because they have to try on 5 or 6 sizes to find one that even comes close to fitting correctly.
sweetjessi1
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January 17, 2010 @ 10:15 pm
haha picture
Audiofreak18
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January 17, 2010 @ 10:20 pm
Yep.
PervyPenguin
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January 17, 2010 @ 10:32 pm
Oh god, for once I actually agree with a LOVELYISH post..
@tsh44@xanga - Thank you for your response! I am going to try out the guessing game when shopping. I usually get the sizes right, I think… I just pick the smallest or next-to-smallest ones… lol
UnopenedSuitcases
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January 17, 2010 @ 11:08 pm
generally, yes
shadowsandsorrow
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January 17, 2010 @ 11:16 pm
Ha ha ha that’s why I love men.
angelface_90
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January 17, 2010 @ 11:32 pm
@boilingicicle@xanga - LOL me to xD I think…i HOPE i see myself as thinner then other people do just because i’m selfcontious about it. My husband says i do because i cry because i think my ribs are showing and i think i look anorexic. But he says it’s all in my head. I dunno if he’s just trying to be sweet, or if i have a distorted image of myself. I’m praying its the distorted image xD
Yes. Because in movies even the fat dorky guys get the girl, but the fat dorky girl rarely ever gets the guy without undergoing some kind of makeover. Of course movies are movies, but they do give a little insight. Men have their confidence built up from a young age. The fat boy is “strong and sturdy” in his mama’s eyes, but the fat girl needs to lose a few pounds. And that attitude transcends the years until you have that picture above.
I know a lot of guys that are self-conscious about their weight. In fact, I’ve dated a lot of guys that are self-conscious about their weight -___-
But for the most part, I’d say YES.
siyingg
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January 18, 2010 @ 1:57 am
lol.
kithicmorgance
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January 18, 2010 @ 6:45 am
Oh man. There is definitely more than a shred of truth in this picture…
hamu_mato
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January 18, 2010 @ 7:58 am
funny!
Prayforplagues707
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January 18, 2010 @ 9:50 am
I think it varies for different people.
My older brother used to be anorexic and plenty of my male friends are self conscious of their weight.Also, I know many girls who are very cocky and confident in their thin weight.
HAhaha, I love how all of the women are going “yes thats true!!” when the ratio is FAR more equal when speaking of delusional women to men. Men more often than not “stay in thier lane” while women tend to think they can get any man they want because of the misconception that we’re ALL horn-dogs. Throw on some some eff-me-boots, a pushup/water bra or stuff yourself into a tight pair of jeans or a sweater thats two sizes too small and they think its GO TIME. But its funny.. the men who DO have “reverse body image dementia” tend to have MUCH success with the ladies… “confidence is SO important, just be confident men! i like when guys are a little cocky” ahahaha, sound familiar?
Just food for thought.
DaRkFaiRy314
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January 18, 2010 @ 1:04 pm
No.
tigerdauphin
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January 18, 2010 @ 1:14 pm
hahahha yes!
beautyinbeautyout
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January 18, 2010 @ 1:26 pm
@erahslover@xanga - excellent commentary. (I take it you’re not a “horn dog?)
But I do think there are many differences between men & women, and the cartoon, though funny, just touches the tip of the iceberg!
AliasUndercover
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January 18, 2010 @ 2:14 pm
Yes. I used to sell portrait photography. In general, even the most beautiful women were highly critical of their appearance and even the most horrible looking man thought he looked pretty good.
@rizzyBeautifullyBroken@xanga - I agree, I sort of interpreted the picture to mean that men in general have better self esteem and I think on the whole that has been my experience as well.
@Ni_Shi_Wo_De@xanga - I’ve met a few too and I think their numbers are growing but I’ve met many more who seem to have a great self image no matter how they really look. It’s actually one of the things I admire in men. The ability to have confidence in who they are.
@Prayforplagues707@xanga - It’s only a cartoon. In my life I haven’t met a lot of girls who are really secure in their looks. I met a few who seem to be on the surface but then after I get to know them all their little insecurities pop out. I’ve met some men who are insecure too and I agree that people are all different, but overall, in my experience the average woman seems to like her looks less than the average man likes his.
@erahslover@xanga - Uhh.. I beg to differ.. I see men date more attractive women all of the time. Very rarely, do I see a man date someone less attractive than him. Maybe have sex with is a different story..
jaydedheart
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January 18, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
Nope. Only as different as we want to imagine it to be.
Puni866
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January 18, 2010 @ 4:14 pm
DEFINITELY!
SamBarger
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January 18, 2010 @ 4:44 pm
eh i dont look at myself like that. i usually see myself as who i am. i dont fight against my fatness. im not overweight, but im definitly not gonna say im in shape you know?
then again my sister is always saying that im a woman trapped in a guys body hahaahah
@erahslover@xanga - I actually had interpreted the cartoon a bit differently I guess. I was thinking more along the lines of womens self esteem being generally lower than mens. The men I know seem to me to be more comfortable with who they are. “I like a guy whose a little cocky?” yes, that does sound familiar. I imagine it has come out of my mouth on more than one occasion so guilty as charged. The man I married was not that great looking but he was definately cocky.
hopethatitglows
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January 18, 2010 @ 6:33 pm
I don’t think it’s quite that bad, but probably damn close! That’s awesome…haha.
pb49r
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January 18, 2010 @ 6:42 pm
The cartoon tells it all. Yes, we sometimes look at our body image quite differently. Thanks “tsh”
erahslover
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January 18, 2010 @ 7:14 pm
@fauxer12@xanga - well theres dating and then theres just overall “im awesome and i dont care what anyone thinks”. granted what i HAVE seen of this could very well be a facade, but ive seen more women taking initiative and putting themselves out there than dudes. like the whole “ill be her FRIEND first and them hopefully ill be there when her man breaks her heart” thing that women say they hate when men do haha.
@tsh44@xanga - I read it like that at first too… then i read some of the comments that eluded to men being delusional instead of women being basketcases and crazily thinking they arent attractive. I did an illustration for a newspaper a while back dealing the with the subject of perfectly “normal” sized women thinking they were fat(the article is linked in there too.. decent read). I dunno.. whenever I read an article I’ll normally make up my mind about what to comment after i see how the group responds to it.
Dunno what it is about cocky guys that get women interested, i dont have it IN me to be cocky. Shit feels gross ahahaha.
@erahslover@xanga - Maybe we mean something different by the word cocky? When I say a guy is cocky I mean that swaggering confidence that makes him completely comfortable having a teaparty with a three year old while his buddies look on or trying out a new dance in the middle of a crowded dance hall. Not the arrogant I’m better than you but the confident I’m good and I know you’ll appreciate it.
xxstarbabe28xx
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January 18, 2010 @ 8:03 pm
This is sexist. It’s so sad how society does this. Don’t fall into line with stereotypes, people… live your own lives-don’t follow the majority!
Persiankitty
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January 18, 2010 @ 10:00 pm
Most definitely!
lenybobsyouruncle
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January 18, 2010 @ 10:02 pm
nope, women do the same stuff as the guy. and some guys do the same thing as the girl.
StacyREdwards
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January 18, 2010 @ 10:23 pm
Well, in order to be happy with myself (and by happy, I also mean completely honest with myself, as well), I had to figuratively “grow a pair”. I’ve learned to accept myself no matter what I look like and I can acknowledge that there is, indeed, room for improvement.
superGchik
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January 18, 2010 @ 10:28 pm
of course, men and women are totally different. as much as like we think we are, we’re still so different.
yes perfect! actually that’s not completely true.. that’s the way i seee it in a woman’s perspective. my boyfriend thinks he has rolls of fat and he really doesnt. he’s in the best shape of his life after working out and going to the gym regularly. but he’s still conscious about his butt and his stomach.. its endearing really. i keep telling him he looks perfect but he just wont listen.. lol…
I don’t think its all true. I do know some guys that are self conscious and want to work out to feel good about themselves. I think everyone is different. Yes, that’s how everyone thinks that girls think they are fat when they are thin, and guys think they are hot when they are fat. But not everyone is like that. Times are changing.
rose / 770 posts
Yes.
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yeah.
daisy / 570 posts
LOL,
that picture sums up all,
orchid / 139 posts
yep!
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I have to agree!
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hahaha..
hydrangea / 57 posts
I think the illustration is obviously exaggerated, so no, we aren’t that different.
I know plentttyyyy of men who are more self-conscious than what is even healthy.
magnolia / 1296 posts
yep basically! hahahaha
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SO freakin’ funny!
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hahaha
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Mhm.
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HAHAHA.
hydrangea / 50 posts
Yup yup.
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In a general sense? Yes. But like @TheRealMelanie@xanga said, it is exaggerated, and there are men who are more self conscious than some women I know. I’m not terribly self conscious (not as much as I used to be), but when meeting new people, I do wonder if they judge me because of this, that, or the other.
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Obviously.
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haha
daisy / 743 posts
Do we ALL really see ourselves as being heavier???


Man I’m doomed… I must be almost paper-thin in other people’s eyes…
But… but there’s no ladder on my chest!
orchid / 133 posts
LOL! THIS IS SO TRUE
daisy / 613 posts
There was that one psychological study that showed women viewed themselves as fatter than they are. They also view the ideal woman to be skinnier than she is.
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Hahaha YES, this is so true!
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LOL. word.
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LOL yea
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*lol*
sunflower / 320 posts
I’m pretty sure… yes. lol
rose / 855 posts
rofl, yes.
rose / 917 posts
YES!!
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lol. True.
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definitely.
daisy / 555 posts
yeah…
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haha great
sunflower / 273 posts
for sure
hydrangea / 98 posts
@TheRealMelanie@xanga - @Morningstarrising@xanga - Obviously it’s a cartoon so it’s not really meant to be taken seriously but I also know some men like that. I know a couple of seriously huge women who see themselves as skinny too. They do seem to be the exception to the rule, but I have no stats to back that up.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@boilingicicle@xanga - I’m pretty sure not everyone sees themselves differently than they are but I know a lot who do. An idea for how to test whether or not you are judging your size fairly when you look at yourself is to see if you can pick out clothes and end up getting a pretty good fit without looking at the size on the tag. I can go into a store and tell by looking at something if it will fit me, sometimes I’m off just a tiny bit but never to the point that it would be unwearable. One of my friends always picks up something that’s wayyyyyy tooo small for her and another always picks up things that will swallow her whole. I hate to shop with them because it takes forever and they’re always upset because they have to try on 5 or 6 sizes to find one that even comes close to fitting correctly.
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haha picture
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Yep.
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Oh god, for once I actually agree with a LOVELYISH post..
- Kunoichi
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Hahaha, that’s too hilarious. XD
sunflower / 296 posts
I can’t really speak about the men on our view of ourselves, but for the most part, the cartoon hits pretty close to home. Yeah.
daisy / 743 posts
@tsh44@xanga - Thank you for your response! I am going to try out the guessing game when shopping. I usually get the sizes right, I think… I just pick the smallest or next-to-smallest ones… lol
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generally, yes
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Ha ha ha that’s why I love men.
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@boilingicicle@xanga - LOL me to xD I think…i HOPE i see myself as thinner then other people do just because i’m selfcontious about it. My husband says i do because i cry because i think my ribs are showing and i think i look anorexic. But he says it’s all in my head. I dunno if he’s just trying to be sweet, or if i have a distorted image of myself. I’m praying its the distorted image xD
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Preeetty much.
sunflower / 380 posts
Yes. Because in movies even the fat dorky guys get the girl, but the fat dorky girl rarely ever gets the guy without undergoing some kind of makeover. Of course movies are movies, but they do give a little insight. Men have their confidence built up from a young age. The fat boy is “strong and sturdy” in his mama’s eyes, but the fat girl needs to lose a few pounds. And that attitude transcends the years until you have that picture above.
dahlia / 2747 posts
yeah.
orchid / 231 posts
I know a lot of guys that are self-conscious about their weight. In fact, I’ve dated a lot of guys that are self-conscious about their weight -___-
But for the most part, I’d say YES.
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lol.
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Oh man. There is definitely more than a shred of truth in this picture…
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funny!
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I think it varies for different people.
My older brother used to be anorexic and plenty of my male friends are self conscious of their weight.Also, I know many girls who are very cocky and confident in their thin weight.
daffodil / 1540 posts
LOL.
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aw..what a sad commentary on the human ego.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@KrazeeKunoichi009@xanga - That’s like the best reply ever!
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HAhaha, I love how all of the women are going “yes thats true!!” when the ratio is FAR more equal when speaking of delusional women to men. Men more often than not “stay in thier lane” while women tend to think they can get any man they want because of the misconception that we’re ALL horn-dogs. Throw on some some eff-me-boots, a pushup/water bra or stuff yourself into a tight pair of jeans or a sweater thats two sizes too small and they think its GO TIME. But its funny.. the men who DO have “reverse body image dementia” tend to have MUCH success with the ladies… “confidence is SO important, just be confident men! i like when guys are a little cocky” ahahaha, sound familiar?
Just food for thought.
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No.
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hahahha yes!
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@erahslover@xanga - excellent commentary. (I take it you’re not a “horn dog?)
But I do think there are many differences between men & women, and the cartoon, though funny, just touches the tip of the iceberg!
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Yes. I used to sell portrait photography. In general, even the most beautiful women were highly critical of their appearance and even the most horrible looking man thought he looked pretty good.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@rizzyBeautifullyBroken@xanga - I agree, I sort of interpreted the picture to mean that men in general have better self esteem and I think on the whole that has been my experience as well.
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YAH!!
hydrangea / 98 posts
@Ni_Shi_Wo_De@xanga - I’ve met a few too and I think their numbers are growing but I’ve met many more who seem to have a great self image no matter how they really look. It’s actually one of the things I admire in men. The ability to have confidence in who they are.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@Prayforplagues707@xanga - It’s only a cartoon. In my life I haven’t met a lot of girls who are really secure in their looks. I met a few who seem to be on the surface but then after I get to know them all their little insecurities pop out. I’ve met some men who are insecure too and I agree that people are all different, but overall, in my experience the average woman seems to like her looks less than the average man likes his.
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Hahahahaa yeeahppp pretty much
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LOL
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@TheRealMelanie@xanga - i agree
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As far as body issues go, yes we are different.
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@erahslover@xanga - Uhh.. I beg to differ.. I see men date more attractive women all of the time. Very rarely, do I see a man date someone less attractive than him. Maybe have sex with is a different story..
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Nope. Only as different as we want to imagine it to be.
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DEFINITELY!
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eh i dont look at myself like that. i usually see myself as who i am. i dont fight against my fatness. im not overweight, but im definitly not gonna say im in shape you know?
then again my sister is always saying that im a woman trapped in a guys body hahaahah
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yepp
D
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This made me laugh sooo hard haha
hydrangea / 98 posts
@erahslover@xanga - I actually had interpreted the cartoon a bit differently I guess. I was thinking more along the lines of womens self esteem being generally lower than mens. The men I know seem to me to be more comfortable with who they are. “I like a guy whose a little cocky?” yes, that does sound familiar. I imagine it has come out of my mouth on more than one occasion so guilty as charged. The man I married was not that great looking but he was definately cocky.
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I don’t think it’s quite that bad, but probably damn close! That’s awesome…haha.
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The cartoon tells it all. Yes, we sometimes look at our body image quite differently. Thanks “tsh”
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@fauxer12@xanga - well theres dating and then theres just overall “im awesome and i dont care what anyone thinks”. granted what i HAVE seen of this could very well be a facade, but ive seen more women taking initiative and putting themselves out there than dudes. like the whole “ill be her FRIEND first and them hopefully ill be there when her man breaks her heart” thing that women say they hate when men do haha.
@tsh44@xanga - I read it like that at first too… then i read some of the comments that eluded to men being delusional instead of women being basketcases and crazily thinking they arent attractive. I did an illustration for a newspaper a while back dealing the with the subject of perfectly “normal” sized women thinking they were fat(the article is linked in there too.. decent read). I dunno.. whenever I read an article I’ll normally make up my mind about what to comment after i see how the group responds to it.
Dunno what it is about cocky guys that get women interested, i dont have it IN me to be cocky. Shit feels gross ahahaha.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@erahslover@xanga - I usualy do just the opposite and try to make my comment and ignore the crowd till I’m done. Going now to read your post.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@erahslover@xanga - That’s really good. You’re quite talented.
hydrangea / 98 posts
@erahslover@xanga - Maybe we mean something different by the word cocky? When I say a guy is cocky I mean that swaggering confidence that makes him completely comfortable having a teaparty with a three year old while his buddies look on or trying out a new dance in the middle of a crowded dance hall. Not the arrogant I’m better than you but the confident I’m good and I know you’ll appreciate it.
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This is sexist. It’s so sad how society does this. Don’t fall into line with stereotypes, people… live your own lives-don’t follow the majority!
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Most definitely!
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nope, women do the same stuff as the guy. and some guys do the same thing as the girl.
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Well, in order to be happy with myself (and by happy, I also mean completely honest with myself, as well), I had to figuratively “grow a pair”. I’ve learned to accept myself no matter what I look like and I can acknowledge that there is, indeed, room for improvement.
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of course, men and women are totally different. as much as like we think we are, we’re still so different.
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Yep!
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hehe. That is very true.
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Sounds about right
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No, because men develop eating disorders too. lol
sunflower / 282 posts
yes perfect! actually that’s not completely true.. that’s the way i seee it in a woman’s perspective. my boyfriend thinks he has rolls of fat and he really doesnt. he’s in the best shape of his life after working out and going to the gym regularly. but he’s still conscious about his butt and his stomach.. its endearing really. i keep telling him he looks perfect but he just wont listen.. lol…
hydrangea / 72 posts
I don’t think its all true. I do know some guys that are self conscious and want to work out to feel good about themselves. I think everyone is different. Yes, that’s how everyone thinks that girls think they are fat when they are thin, and guys think they are hot when they are fat. But not everyone is like that. Times are changing.
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no! Just to be serious.
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yes~different ‘downstair’ parts.
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haha thats funnyyyy
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yup pictures are definitely worth 1000 words =P
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YEP!!! It’s totally true!!
http://www.mybodygallery.com
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LOL! so funny
Maybe yes . . .
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i lovee this.
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Yes!
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Not anymore. Lots of men look at their bodies nowadays and blow things out of proportion. They just don’t obsess about it like women do.
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pfft, please, guys can be just as insecure. they’re just too busy trying to be macho to admit it the way girls do.
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@TheRealMelanie@xanga - then again i know a lot of females who to self confident.. it goes both ways.
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LOL!!! so true!!
rose / 781 posts
Yes.
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Does this mean, in general, men are overconfident, and women are underconfident?
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ha ha, that girl in the first photo looks like fat Gweneth in Shallow Hal