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I agree.  You should accept yourself and love your body, however it should not deter you from wanting to be healthier.  Just because you’re happy with your overweight body doesn’t mean your heart, arteries, and other organs are.  And if you want to live a long, healthy life, you cannot be in denial of your weight.

yes, they are compromising health. i’m blunt. i don’t care to sugarcoat facts to placate people’s insecurities.

there’s a fine line between fat acceptance and excusing obesity.

if a person has a little more meat than the average person naturally, they should learn to love what they have. curves are beautiful. on the other hand, 200 pounds of fat rolls are NOT beautiful.

so, yeah, the whole “fat acceptance” thing is kind of misleading. i wouldn’t call it “fat” acceptance, more like “body acceptance” or something.

People want to think that if becoming fat in this day in age is the most natural thing to do (because of our “diets” and no need for any sort of exercise), it must be proper. They like to say that it’s a new idea for people to be so slim and toned. In actuality, they’re wrong. The more comfortable life for humans get, the less they use their bodies. If you take a look an an anthropology book, you’ll see that humans had much less body fat and were much more muscular than we are today. They also fueled themselves with real food. Modern, over-weight society has simply adapted to the environment we have created for ourselves.

I completely agree with you. I mean, when you reach overweight and obese status.. watch what you eat! Is that really so hard?

Every post I’ve ever written about loving your body I have said “Unless you are obese you should change your ways & lose weight.”

DIE OBESE PEOPLE DIE!
D:<

Until you have seen the horrors I have at the waterpark I work at, you cannot understand why I have my views.

PS. If I hear one more person use the excuse “But Marilyn Monroe was a size 16!” I will probably go insane. Sizes have been getting larger and larger since she was in the public eye. She was a size 4 in today’s sizes. So please, don’t excuse yourself for sitting around all day eating sticks of butter and watching reality tv. k awesome.

That’s a lot to think about. I think that we must accept ourselves where we are on a core level or we won’t have any desire to improve. Hatred, dissapproval and dislike does not instill us with the desire to do good things. If I hate a man for instance I’m not likely to date him, go for a walk with him or cook him a lovely dinner. I might reach out if he were teetering on the edge of a cliff but then again if I hate him badly enough I might just watch him fall. My point is that overweight people need to realize that they are more than the weight. The don’t have to love the fat but it seems to me that the more they love themselves the more likely they are to want to do good things for themselves.

We should stop having underweight acceptance and feed models hamburgers. All underweight people are unhealthy.

@onetwelvee@xanga - Good point! eople are retarded thinking marilyn was a 16. look at her pictures alone. size 16 is obese

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS.

I have said things about the whole “accept your body as it is” movement before and was met with people saying to “fuck off” because “I just don’t understand what it’s like to be “fat”‘.

But the point is that being overweight is unhealthy. It’s not that society requires you to look like Blake Lively, it’s that society should encourage healthy weight, behavior, and eating habits.

@onetwelvee@xanga - Marilyn Monroe was a size 8/10. Fact fail.

YES! I’m sick of everyone hating on the skinny people. Underweight people are a minority so it’s easy for people to gang up on them and lecture them about being unheatly.

If you are overweight, I don’t care what your excuse is! There are no excuses! Excerizes, eat right, and take care of yourself! Don’t try to pass off the blame on impossible body standards, we’re not talking about being model thin, just HEALTHY.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Actually before you go crazy in bold letters and all that, do your homework. Her measurements were 36-23-37. Who do you know wearing a size 10 with a 23 inch waist?

I think that in order to help yourself, you need to love yourself.
Or else you’ll feel hopeless and give up.
It’s not about loving your weight, it’s about loving yourself enough to want to lose the weight. If someone is constantly told that they’re disgusting, they just might believe it and settle for being “disgusting.”

I think this movement is to stop people from being told they’re disgusting, and for that, I support it. Nobody should be told they’re any less for physical reasons. You may be “being honest,” but you’re also being a jackass. And that is what is really disgusting.

@eartheagle@xanga - I agree. Underweight people and overweight people are unhealthy. It’s unacceptable. Thin people really need to start eating more. its gross

@onetwelvee@xanga - Fact fail again http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.asp

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - now there is a generalization if ive ever seen one

@tykazowsky@xanga - I know. I’m way better at generalizations than the original poster.

@onetwelvee@xanga - One with big tits, and a fat ass.

Everyone says that I’m not overweight, but I know that I am. It’s not by a lot but it’s not the average size I should be for my height. I think that everyone should be accepted, but even with acceptance they should know that change is for the better. Just because you want to to persuade someone to change their lifestyle for the better doesn’t mean you’ve got to be mean about it. 

i agree with you. becoming ‘at peace’ with obesity just allows people to dig themselves in a deeper hole of unhealthiness

Thin or fat. It doesn’t matter. Just be healthy.

If you feel like you’re overweight, eat healthy and exercise.
If you feel like you’re too skinny eat some more and exercise. Ask your friends, they’re often a good judge.

I hear that about 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese. :/
Lets work to change that… no need for people to get pissed off by definitions.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Snopes.com?? A rumor site?

Try using the measurements from her dressmaker. First off, she may have been a size 8 in UK sizes. But do you know what that is in North America? A size 4. Hey cool I can do bold letters too. And I’m getting MY info from her official website.

Height:5
feet 5 1/2 inches
Weight: Varied,
115 – 120 lbs.

Measurements:37-23-36
(Studio’s Claim);
35-22-35 (Dressmaker’s Claim)

Her BMI would have been right around 19 to 19.5. Which puts her NOWHERE near overweight, and actually just a few pounds away from underweight.

http://www.marilynmonroe.com/about/facts.html

@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - amen

is the fat acceptance movement you are talking about “Health At Every Size”? because i researched it and read the book the doctor who developed the program wrote, and it’s actually a great program. quite a bit of obesity related research has been funded or researched under the auspices of people with a political agenda or strong ties to food industries/pharmaceutical companies which want certain outcomes. being overweight (not morbidly obese) really isn’t a big deal- you are actually less likely to die from certain disease and chronic conditions (like high cholesterol) if you are overweight then morbidly obese or underweight, with overweight people having similar health and eating habits to normal weight people. of course being normal weight is best, but overweight is not this horrible thing.

and the whole reason so many americans are classified as overweight is because the government lowered the scales for underweight/normal weight/overweight/obese and most americans gained about 5 lbs, with a a small proportion who were already obese gaining 20 or more lbs, which skews the statistics. anyway, there is such cultural disgust about anyone being fat, the “i’m worried for that strangers health” part of it is really just a cover anyway…when someone is whispering about a chubby person eating mcdonalds loudly enough to for them to hear, it’s not because they’re so concerned about that strangers health but that they’re trying to shame them : P

@onetwelvee@xanga - It’s from the huffington post and originally from Times.

Her size is 6-8 north american size. A journalist tried on her clothes.

Her BMI was a 21 and she was not a size 4. Just look at her damn pictures. Fact fail for you again.

@MsKittyCatty@xanga - yes, i personally am not overweight but i can relate to feeling out of control.

@onetwelvee@xanga - where are you getting your BMI calculations? even if she was 5’1” and 115 pounds that would put her just under 22 BMI. if she was only 5′ and 120 pounds that puts it at 23.4

@HungryForLife1@xanga - I actually did reach a point where I was overweight, and I did some things to change it that weren’t hard at all. I guess when people miss that point of realization and continue on and on, there comes loss of control.

people know, when they are overweight or obese, that they are unhealthy or on the road to health problems. it’s no secret. they know they have the problem. why should we belittle them, remind them, or not “accept” them? it’s their choice when/if they went to get healthy or not. i don’t think the “fat acceptance” movement is condoning being unhealthy by any means. i think it’s just trying to make that person feel more comfortable, more positive about themselves despite their weight. this can have a “domino effect” on their self-worth and maybe then they’d feel more confident to walk into a gym or start making positive changes. lowering their self-esteem further by reminding them they are fat and unhealthy is either going to: put them on the defensive, or make them feel worthless and want to reach for the cheetos.

@SeitekiChibiNeko@xanga -
“the “i’m worried for that strangers health”
part of it is really just a cover anyway…when someone is whispering
about a chubby person eating mcdonalds loudly enough to for them to
hear, it’s not because they’re so concerned about that strangers health
but that they’re trying to shame them : P”

i totally agree. thanks

As one of those fat people, I can easily say losing weight is a lot harder than gaining it.  It’s not only exhausting and physically challenging, but psychologically challenging too.  It’s seriously depressing, first of all to be so fat, second of all to work out and get so tired so fast, and worst of all, have it amount to basically nothing (healthy weight loss is like, less than 5 lbs a week).  If losing weight were as simple as gaining it, everyone would be thin.

@HereInMyVoid@xanga - well if you read the post, it said 8% of obese people in the US dont even know or think they are obese, and dont think they need to lose weight

@onetwelvee@xanga - I have 36″ hips and I can’t fit my hips in anything less than a 7. Flowly dresses, maybe a 4, but if she wanted pants…  Just throwing it out there.

As someone who is overweight, and has been so, even obese for my entire life, I would say yes, this is very damaging. In fact, this “fat worship” rather disgusts me. I don’t care how much you run, you still feel like shit. Yeah, it would be nice not to have people look down on me and glare at me when I eat and make snide comments when I go to the gym, but that is why I’m loosing weight. It is very dangerous, even demeaning to claim that obesity is ok. Fat and happy really is an oxymoron.

@tykazowsky@xanga - i did read the post, thanks. 8 percent, wow. let’s belittle everyone else for that little 8 percent in denial. i was referring to the vast majority that actually do know they are overweight and possibly unhealthy.

We should accept people as people, while encouraging everyone to be in good health.

such movement is meaningless ~_~ you can’t tell people not to judge, even if they can’t say it out loud they will still judge in the back of their heads. Nothing will change by such a silly movement. 

@Covergirl_For_Sanity_Fair@xanga - not true. 5 pounds is 5 pounds, about 8 years ago i started to try and gain weight. i tried many ways. complete inactivity with a very unhealthy diet, also working out, exercise, and protein supplements. i have a ravenous appetite but apparently an equally ravenous metabolism.  ive never been about 160 pounds (oh and that was like right after thanksgiving… after a poo i was back down to 155) and i dont think i can do anything to change that.

now, im not saying i am unhealthy… because im not, im very healthy, and i exercise plenty, but your logic is unfounded and your conclusion false

@HereInMyVoid@xanga - Because people like to try to control people and belittle them so they feel better about themselves. I would say it’s human nature, but it really isn’t. It’s how insecure people cope with themselves by putting other people down and trying to control others.

“society should not become complacent when it comes to obesity”

Yes, this is a generalization. I’m sure some people would become fat asses, even if their parents would try and help them, but I know that my parents are the reason that I did not become obese.

-endrant- Tehehe

@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - bwahaha… they don’t need any more sugar!

@HereInMyVoid@xanga - im pretty sure the poster isnt saying, “dont let these fatties slack! they are becoming complacent and we cant let them! send them all to the gym”
no, its merely saying some people are discounting the dangers and becoming OK with it and they shouldnt

@Cosmar@xanga - maybe fat teens. but after that, people become responsible for themselves. of course they are instilled with mentalities, but they need to make their own decisions.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - exactly. it’s gross. the worst part is, they usually don’t even realize that’s what they are doing. and they rationalize it to no end. ugh

@tykazowsky@xanga - go back and read my first comment. most people aren’t discounting the dangers, nor are they “ok with it”– i guess around 92 percent, according to the study she’s referring to. 92 percent KNOW they are “fat” and/or unhealthy. you or anyone else reminding them isn’t some altruistic effort to make them realize the errors of their ways or force a change or whatever. people change when they have an internal motivation and desire and the necessary self-esteem to change. i suppose some people change via negative feedback (e.g. reminding them they are fat or unhealthy), but i don’t know anyone like that. most people change when they are met with positivity and support.

I do agree

@HereInMyVoid@xanga - who says that pointing out fat is negative feedback?  plus that is horrible logic anyways. if someone is breaking the law they know they are breaking the law… does that mean you should just let them go on breaking the law?

@tykazowsky@xanga - bleh. you cannot be serious with those two justifications. wow.

@HereInMyVoid@xanga - i wasnt trying to suggest anything. i was merely showing your crappy logic

@tykazowsky@xanga - You equate being fat with breaking a law? So being fat should be equated to a criminal offense? analogy fail

I think people should strive to be healthy and should consult their doctor’s about how to achieve that.

@tykazowsky@xanga - AHHHAAAAAHHHAAA. MY logic is crappy?!..after you just compared telling someone they’re fat with apprehending someone who’s breaking a law? ROFL. thanks for that hearty chuckle

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - haha. no. i was merely stating that just because someone is aware that something is wrong with their behavior doesnt mean they are going to do anything to fix it

@tykazowsky@xanga - Exactly. So there is no point in telling people if they’re fat or not.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - totally! i hate when people say “Oh, well Marilyn was a size 16, so I’m okay.” It’s like, NO WAY! She was def. a size 8/10 which is so much smaller and doesn’t make it okay to be obese just because people convince themselves that it’s okay.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - well if no change is desired. my original point to that person was to say that you can still encourage people (i dont know how) that they are indeed overweight/obese and might wanna consider some lifestyle changes

and i dont care if people disagree with this… but i dont really think its a bad thing that people feel ashamed for being obese. all the more motivation

@tykazowsky@xanga - If you actually read my post (and the website) she was 5’5 and a half. Not 5’1.

@onetwelvee@xanga - If you actually read my factual website you’ll see her real size. 

@onetwelvee@xanga - ah. yes. well youre formatting was messed up and it looked like feet: 5 inches 1/2… and no i didnt go to the site

@tykazowsky@xanga - just because someone is aware that something is wrong with their behavior doesnt mean they are going to do anything to fix it

my original point to that person was to say
that you can still encourage people (i dont know how) that they are
indeed overweight/obese and might wanna consider some lifestyle changes

but i dont really think its a bad thing that people feel ashamed for being obese. all the more motivation

contradiction.

Being ashamed isn’t motivation. Shaming people into doing what you want them to do isn’t nice. It’s being a control freak and an asshole. It’s none of your business what people weigh or what they do with their health.

@tykazowsky@xanga - If I could lose 5 whole lbs a week, maybe I’d be happy with my weight.  In the last 2 months, I’ve lost a total of 5 lbs.  That’s hardly an accomplishment.  My conclusion is far from false.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - before i address what you wrote in bold… where is my contradiction?

@tykazowsky@xanga - You say we should point out that people are fat. But then you say even if you point something out they won’t necessarily fix it.

Then you say they need encouragement. And in the next sentence you say it’s ok to shame them. So which is it?

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - i never said they wont change if you point something out, i said awareness doesnt make people change.  even if i had said what youre saying i said, its still not a contradiction.  and the encouragement was on a friendship basis– im not advocating shaming your friends. i was talking about society and the pressures that people face.

@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - Couldn’t have said it better.

@Covergirl_For_Sanity_Fair@xanga - well if you lost 5 pounds in 2 months, its certainly a lot more than gaining 0 pounds in 8 years

If you travel outside of the US, you’ll realize how much Americans resemble cows. If you’re going to be unhealthy, at least be thin so it’s still do-able.

@coolmonkey@xanga - WIN

 i never said they wont change if you point
something out, i said awareness doesnt make people change.  even if i
had said what youre saying i said, its still not a contradiction.

Then there would be no point pointing out someone who is overweight because 1)they already likely know 2) they won’t necessarily fix it – as quoted by you. So if you imply that by pointing out someone is fat they will change, you just contradicted yourself.

just because someone is aware that something is wrong with their behavior doesnt mean they are going to do anything to fix it

 and the encouragement was on a friendship basis– im not advocating shaming your friends.
So you should only encourage the friends you know and shame other people?

Let’s shame people who drink soda, that’s not healthy.

Let’s shame meat eaters. Meat eaters aren’t as healthy as vegetarians.

Let’s shame people who eat deli meat. That has proven to be carcinogenic.

Let’s shame models and anorexics. They are underweight and unhealthy.

Let’s shame people who get plastic surgery. That’s not healthy.

Let’s shame skydivers. That’s dangerous and not healthy.

Let’s shame sword swallowers. That’s dangerous and not healthy.

Who else should we shame?

If 92 percent of overweight/obese people KNOW they’re unhealthy… why the hell don’t they do something about it? Forget this idiotic ‘fat acceptance’ movement. I’ve seen a number of people end up on my slab dead due to nothing but their eating habits. It’s stupid. 

@coolmonkey@xanga - Average sized people aren’t necessarily doable. Please refer to your picture.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - ok, you have bad logic. that is not a contradiction. wont necessarily is not equal to wont.

but you apparently missed my last point. i never said telling someone will not make them change. i only ever stated that just because a fat person is aware they are fat (not by someone telling them, just by looking in a mirror) doesnt mean they have any will to change. i also never said that pointing out that they are fat will make them change. so your logic is flawed one both ends. it may motivate them, maybe not.

and the shame thing. if you noticed, i never said we should be shaming people.  i said if they feel ashamed thats fine.  so be it.

if you wanna shame all those people so be it. i never said you should. but if they feel ashamed by society for doing those things thats their business.

Dude I wrote about this maybe over a month ago and got so much hate response. 

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Awfully brave words for someone that obscures their face in a profile pic.

@tykazowsky@xanga - ok, you have bad logic. that is not a contradiction.

Lesson 1: if you imply pointing out to people they are fat will change them and then insist that pointing it out may not necessarily do what you said it would do, that is a contradiction. Your welcome.

@coolmonkey@xanga - I have 3/4′s of my face and my amazing rack. It’s hard to choose between my face and body because both are equally awesome. However I’m glad your body is obscured. Thank you for doing the world a kind favor.

I hate how people will nag thin people to eat, but they won’t tell overweight people to stop eating, because it may hurt their feelings. I recently lost weight, and now everyone thinks that I am anorexic (I’m not) and feels the need to make comments. At first it was nice to hear after being overweight my whole life, but now it’s getting tiring and rude. I don’t comment about how they shouldn’t eat so much, so they shouldn’t make remarks about my food choices. 

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - haha. actually. that is not a contradiction. take a class in logic. aaaand i never implied that pointing out they are fat will change them. where are you getting your facts? i did say it may motivate them. the two are not the same.

listen i dont know why you are fighting so hard to prove me wrong. my logic is fine, and whether you like what im saying or not, arguing my logic isnt gonna help.

@tykazowsky@xanga - Get a dictionary and highlight “contradict.”

First you said with the implication it isn’t a contradiction. And now you say that it’s not a contradiction because you didn’t imply it.

No, I’m not arguing your logic. There would have to be some trace of logic there to actually argue it…

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - haha. i wish i could do this in person. because it appears you arent reading what im saying… well except for the part you wanna see. so this is pointless.

me: So if you imply that by pointing out someone is fat they will change, you just contradicted yourself.

you: ok, you have bad logic. that is not a contradiction.

me: if you imply pointing out to people they are
fat will change them and then insist that pointing it out may not
necessarily do what you said it would do, that is a contradiction.

you: actually. that is not a contradiction.

Lesson 2: So what is a contradiction and why is that a contradiction? To contradict is :”To make a statement denying the truth of the statement(s) made by (a person).”

Therefore if you say that pointing out someone who is fat will make them change and then you say it possibly won’t make them change you just denied the truth of your statement because pointing out someone is fat won’t necessarily do what you said it would do.

@tykazowsky@xanga - This is free, next lesson I’m charging.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - try using my words to show my contradictions instead of some made up syllogisms

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - 1)  Zorro shows 3/4 of his face too.  What’s your point?

2)  Wow, you can afford a push-up bra and squeeze your boobs together.  You’ve accomplished what any girl on Myspace can do.  Congrats.

3)  What’s wrong with your face that you need to cover 3/4 of it and highlight your boobs in the first place?

@coolmonkey@xanga - because my boobs are awesome. Workout more and eat less then you can highlight your body too.

@tykazowsky@xanga - try learning what a contradiction is.

ewww 60% of american adults are overweight… wtf. I blame mc dicks.

Accepting yourself is fine but with it comes realising what you are… if you are large and in bad health you dont accept it and accepting it isnt fine because it is something you can change. Overweight people specially urk me because in Canada my taxes go towards lame efforts to help these people who are basically comitting a slow gross suicide , to pay for theyre surgerys theyre meds and all these things. Accepting yourself isnt about over looking everything thats wrong its about saying ‘yes this needs fixing’ and not giving up on fixing it. An overweight person shouldnt be able to just accept they are huge then act as if they arent a burden on all of us.Plus It can be fixed, put down the damn forks, and the grilled cheese eat a fricken salad, it can be fixed and if your overweight please fix it because my taxes could be better used to help someone with cancer go through treatment… or get the tests they need to detect the cancer.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Sorry toots, I’d take a skinny girl with small tits over a fat chick with awesome tits any day.

@coolmonkey@xanga - If you want to advertise what bodytype you like go to yahoo personals. Just use the pic with the cat covering you up. You’ll do fine…

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - If you want to advertise your nice tits, go make some more rounds on your night walks.  Just make sure to give a cut to your pimp.  You’ll do fine…

@coolmonkey@xanga - Thank you. They are nice.

Here’s my two cents on the topic, other people’s body mass indexes don’t affect me, so why would it matter if I become “complacent”?  It’s not really my job to encourage everyone to be healthy.  How about everyone just worry about their own body and not everyone else’s?  Now, if our healthcare system changes to being universal, then, I’ll care about fat people’s health, for now though, if it doesn’t affect me then I don’t give a shit. 

@tykazowsky@xanga - the girl is trolling; responding to her only fuels the fire.

Anyway, I think the article was good…I’m happy with my curves that haven’t turned into huge rolls. lol

@TheRealMelanie@xanga - Thank you. At least you have the most common sense out of most of these people and had the right mind to say something about it. @DommieDisaster@xanga - And I give you alot of props for coming forth in front of every one else on here saying you are over weight because like @TheRealMelanie@xanga - said alot of people are just being right our rude on here and jack asses.

Now as for my comment on here. YES people may be over weight or obese but with your rude ass comments on here and other people out in the world in isn’t gonna help them any. I am over weight and I am admitting it as well. But I have started to work out and eat healthier. And you wanna know why? Because I have the support from people that care about me and I don’t have jackass people around me like you guys on here putting me down. Maybe you should think twice before you write something so god damn rude.

@onetwelvee@xanga - No offense to you or her dressmaker, but I’m 118 pounds, 5’9″, and I barely fit into most size 4s.  I’ve seen enough of her movies to see that she was way bigger than me(ass wise, boob wise, and waist wise).  She couldn’t have even stuffed one boob into a size 4 dress!  Now, she wasn’t a size 16 either.  She might have had to buy a 16 and get it fitted for her smaller waist and large chest, but she definitely wasn’t that big, especially when one takes into consideration that dress sizing then was bigger than it is now.  I’d say a North American size 8 would be the most accurate.  

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - amen to that! 

@Covergirl_For_Sanity_Fair@xanga - Thank you for pointing this out. Some people don’t have their minds set straight.

@feelslikejuly@xanga - Although I have no clue who you are, I’m glad everyone knows who I am.

@onetwelvee@xanga - I’m a size 8/10 and have a 24 inch waist. Thanks.

if shaming and humiliating fat people made them skinny, then everyone would be. hence, body acceptance. it’s essentially about keeping your nose out of other people’s business. what right do YOU have to say that a person is unhealthy? 

@hedcandy@xanga and don’t give me the tax dollars argument, because your tax dollars are also going towards other people who “do it to themselves”….smokers, young men who do stupid stunts and get in accidents, drug addicts, drunk drivers, alcoholics…the list goes on. and SOMEDAY, everyone else’s tax dollars are going towards YOU when YOU GET SICK. so stop pretending you are the pinnacle of health and that everyone should follow your example, and just “put down the fork”.

the reason Americans are so big is because of a materialistic society, poverty, high fructose corn syrup (aka processed foods that are cheaper to make), and a culture that encourages body hate, not matter what your body looks like. unhealthy society = unhealthy people. its that simple. people have not changed over the years, society has changed. this is what most people forget. I strongly believe that if our culture didn’t promote low self esteem and body hate, slightly-overweight-but-still-healthy people would not become morbidly-obese-on-the-deathbed people later on in their life. this is what body acceptance is about. Societal ills are not caused by ONE thing. they are a combination of a bunch of factors.

I think everyone needs to be honest with themselves, the moral panic over obesity is not even remotely related to health. if it was, there would be posts on here everyday about how unhealthy a multitude of other things are, like the things i mentioned above. it is related to the fact that fat people are not regarded as GOOD LOOKING. ITS THAT SIMPLE. Stop kidding yourselves, you don’t care about other people’s health, you care about not having to look at fat people.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - I love how everyone freaks out when you respond to their comment. It’s like they have this insatiable need to have the last words. ON XANGA. Hahaha. I love about 98% of the comments you make here. Keep up the good work.

I think that for some, yes, the fat acceptance might make them complacent. Yet, for others it is a way to get empowered, and that could lead to weight loss for their health. People who are very overweight are often rejected by society. Clearly if they have gotten to extremely unhealthy weights while feeling all this rejection, the rejection is not actually helping them lose weight. Instead it increases unhealthy eating/dieting habits, which can lead to binging. For example, if I were to be really hurt cause I heard someone call me fat, or I was focusing on my weight in a negative manner,this could leave me to starve most of the day. Then lets say by the end of the day I get in the “screw it” mindset, as many dieters might, and I decide that it doesn’t matter, everything sucks, so I might as well eat whatever I can now. I will try to starve tomorrow. If I keep this negative view on myself this continuously repeats. However, if I begin to accept myself for me, accept that I have the body I have, I can start making changes for my health.

I know I am using first person, however, this is not personal. Yes, I am dieting at the moment, in a healthy manner. And I have struggled in the past with issues like this, and it is when the negativity on myself, and the feelings of rejection are the worst, that my body weight has gone up not down. So I actually think anything encouraging other to accept themselves more is great. Especially, in a very critical society.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - I LOVE your answer!!

But what do you do when this order of self-acceptance comes with a side
of diabetes, high cholesterol, and other potentially fatal diseases?

You do realize that people of every size can have these disorders, not just the overweight, right? Lots of thin (and supposed HEALTHY people eat really badly and have really high cholesterol, and diabetes is not exclusive to overweight/obese, if it was no thin people would have it and ALL fat people would. As someone with it, I really wish more people would actually understand it has little to due with weight, although yes it does factor in.
I agree with MOST of what you said, but that statement as well as saying that it isn’t okay to say anything to fat people over thin people because of hurt feelings. Your typical too thin woman does that to herself and has 100% control or almost 100% control over her size, while overweight isn’t always the persons fault. Yes MOST of the time the overweight person is directly responsible for their size, due to their diet, exercise habits, etc… but not all. So there is a big difference there! (And I’m not talking about naturally thin woman, I am talking eating disorder, starve themselves, have to be super skinny woman).

Okay here is my opinion, and this is coming from a girl that’s been overweight her entire life.

When you look at someone and see they are overweight, people automatically assume things about them. You have no idea what they’re doing. When people look at me, they probably don’t realize that I work out almost every day for over an hour. They don’t realize that I really don’t eat more than any skinnier person. Maybe I have at some point in my life that made me this way, but I don’t now. If people want to accept their bodies even though it could be unhealthy, let them. Should someone that smokes or drinks alcohol often not accept themselves? Should skinny or healthy looking people not accept themselves because even though they’re skinny, they don’t eat the right things? Almost everyone has something about their health that they need to work on. Let them accept their bodies.

Sometimes a person CAN”T help being over weight!! I am over weight because of some of the meds I am on because I have SLE lupus!! It hurts me to much to exercise and I am on bedrest alot because I am so ill.I am in so much pain that it hurts me just to walk to the bathroom.I hope this gives everyone some “food’ for thought!! I can’t stand it when people judge others not knowing all the facts.

I agree, but only partially.
My husband’s sister and aunt are both big
people. and by big I mean tall and well…big. both used to be obese
but in the past 2 years have joined weight watchers, are avid fans of
The Biggest Looser, and both eat on a strict vegan (yes, vegan!) diet
in small portions. They lost so much weight and we are so proud of
them, but they still look big. Definitely not as big as before, but
they have obviously lost most of the weight they can loose, they really
are “big people” but healthy big people. They are VERY fit, in fact my
husband’s aunt just got some sort of degree to be a personal trainer.
So it’s once thing to see a 6 foot tall overweight person huffing and
puffing and sweating down the street eating a cheeseburger and it’s
quite another to see people like my in-laws walking around not breaking
a sweat.
So obviously, my sister in law and aunt (in law)
gave up “accepting their weight”. I know for a fact that they used to
think it was it “wasn’t their fault”. Now they have taken control and
although they will always be big, they now can know that at least they
will be healthy. They’ll never be supermodels. I’m sure people may
judge them when they see them in public but I know that they are more
healthy than some of my skinny friends who can get by with eating
snickers and drinking mountain dew at each meal (yes I have a friend
who does that lol). I think that as long as you’re healthy there should be no problem.
I myself am right in the middle. Not fat or obese, not thin either. I’ve been a vegetarian my whole life. I’ve been jogging almost every day since 2006 and haven’t lost one pound–not one! But i HAVE toned up alot so I’m happy with myself.
There is no specific size that says “healthy” but no one should be content with themselves if they can’t climb a flight of stairs without wheezing lol.

Some of these comments are absolutely horrible. It’s okay to be thin but it’s not okay to be fat?
I think some people need to grow up and realise that there are worse things in life than being “fat” (just as long as you’re healthy, of course)
Swearing at people who aren’t a size 2 and making them feel worse than they probably already do does not change the fact they are over-weight

I don’t think this article was saying “It is 100% okay to be morbidly
obese!!”, I think it was just trying to kill off society’s double
standards

I don’t care what size you are.  If you eat healthy and exercise, that’s all that matters.  And yes, now I know that 100 of you will go to my site and tell me how fat I am.  I know… get over it.  I have my reasons at the moment.

I think you should stop being so concerned about everyone else’s weight and worry about yourself… 

[Are people compromising their health for a healthy body image?]

YES, we do it all the time.

@tykazowsky@xanga - 

Of course.
Eventually, birds have to leave the nest, but I was mainly shooting that at children that are too young to make wise choices.

People need to become responsible for their own actions and that includes having children and raising them to be responsible.

AGREED!

such crap.

@onetwelvee@xanga - thank you thank you thank you! I mean, how can people really NOT know that marilyn’s sizes were smaller than today’s 16s? DOES SHE LOOK LIKE A FREAKING 16? NO!

Anyway…

Idk, it’s difficult; I think it’s good to have a healthy self esteem and acceptance of your body, but people really are a lot bigger now than I think they realise. With 1/3 of America being obese and 1/3 being overweight, that means 2/3 of us are pretty big… so it can make a chubby person think “oh, i’m not THAT bad!” when really, it could be seriously damaging to your health.

And before you think I’m just a skinny person who has no idea what it’s like to be fat, I used to weigh 210 [i'm only 5'3] and I got myself down to 145 and you can tell when you’re healthier and more active. It just feels amazing. :]

Thank you. This is always something I’ve agreed with. I think when some overweight/obese people say that they are “happy with their weight/the way they are,” they’re just trying to convince themselves and don’t actually feel that way. If they really are that content, then they wouldn’t care much if they lost five or so pounds. They wouldn’t be ecstatic or celebrating or w/e. It seems like a defeatist statement, and a way to avoid responsibility. And by telling themselves they’re happy, they reinforce their bad habits.

Honestly, it doesn’t matter if you are skinny or fat at all everyone needs to eat healthy and exercise.
This, however, will never happen fat people like to complain about being fat and not do a damn thing about it, and skinny people like to just not eat so they don’t have to work out or they end up becoming overweight because they take their bodies for granted. Don’t cheat your body, it’s your only body. 

@Cosmar@xanga - I couldn’t have said it better.

Eek. Such a sensitive subject. It’s true that people who are “fat” are at far greater health risk than someone in a “normal” range of weight. I completely agree that we shouldn’t encourage people to be fat or stay fat. However, I do believe that people need to be accepted… whatever size they might be. Why is being a smoker more acceptable in our society in spite of it’s health risks to the person and those around them than being fat? There is clearly a lot of aesthetics behind all this.

Bring a person down and they can’t make changes for the better. I say this with first hand experience.

@Coke0@xanga - as someone previously noted, people are always quickly jumping at thin people and saying they need to eat (in real life and models and such) while rarely will overweight or obese peoples weight ever be mentioned. its kind of taboo.  whether obese people are talked about or not, most people do not just say “youre fat and unhealthy! you need to exercise”

I’ve been saying this for awhile; I think it’s fine when people are comfortable with themselves, but saying “I like who I am” when you’re obviously overweight is just trying to evade the truth from yourself. You gotta be happy, but you also gotta be healthy.

I’m classified as overweight. Obese rather. I go running 1.5km each morning, or walk 3km if I’m lazy/not feeling well. I like dancing, and jumping and playing stepmania.

I love veggies, and will only eat fast food when I really don’t have time to cook. I don’t like the taste at all.

My family is prone to diabetes, so I get tested regularly, and then I do all the tests; cholesterol, blood pressure, etc, and my doctor says that judging by purely the tests he would say nothing is wrong with me…except that I don’t lose weight. Luckily I also do not gain any. But still I have too much weight for my length.

I love myself just the way I am, and I have a problem with people judging me just because of my weight. Would you say I’m wrong to want people to accept me the way I am?

 I tried for several years, on my own, to lose weight – I eat very healthy, I exercised, I am not an emotional eater, etc.  I was born with genetic health issues.  These are not excuses.  I couldn’t seem to get it down.  Now I have a personal trainer/nutritionist combo.  It’s taken 2 yrs and I’ve lost 40 lbs. This is not me bragging.  It was hard, it hurts, it is depressing, ppl I thought would support me hate on me, ppl that always disowned me suddenly like me. I’m not doing this for them and I’m going to have to do this for the rest of my life. Ppl still tell me I’m fat, chubby, and ugly – but when they find out I’ve lost 40 lbs, all the sudden it’s really? how? that’s amazing!  I liked my body before.  I like my body now.  My weight lost plan is called “Get Healthy” not “Lose Weight” specifically because I’m gaining muscle and that goes against the scale.  I think you should accept yourself, love yourself, and if you do have health issues then if you can do something about it and have the ability to do something about it, do.  But do not just write it off for someone ELSE.  You might not have a problem with weight or exercise or depression, etc.  That doesn’t mean someone else is just like you.  I bet there is something about YOU that you can’t kick - a snarky attitude, eating too much chocolate, or biting your nails.  I’ve known ppl who try to kick smoking and don’t – is it my place to put them down for trying? Am I supposed to automatically assume someone smoking outside or eating at a diner haven’t tried to change? maybe they haven’t, maybe they have – how would I know just by looking at them? I’m also horrible with spelling – why not pounce on that too!

And no, I’m not saying any one thing is an addiction or compulsion – it is something that person, whatever the issue, will have to deal with the rest of their lives; with societies support or not.

I don’t understand how you can say the society shouldn’t be down on them but shouldn’t be complacent.  Are we supposed to walk down the street and be like “You’re fat, get some help.”?

Honestly, I don’t understand why people care that much. How is someone else’s life habits really affecting you?  I don’t understand this personal mission people feel they have, to make sure EVERY SINGLE obese person knows how fat and disgusting they are.  People need to get over themselves and move on with their lives.  Most people, who are obese, know the kinds of risks and/or aren’t happy with the way they are.  People will change when they want too.  No body can force them to do so.  And simply stating how “unhealthy” they are, isn’t going to be the motivation that gets them started.  People just need to get over it.  Be more concerned with your self and your health, and less concerned about others!!! 

@feelslikejuly@xanga - i noticed… its all good.  she can hide behind her false premises online, but i know if were in person i could tear her “argument” to pieces.  she likes to use shock effect, and she is reasonably smart so it works.

TOTALLY AGREE. MOST people who are overweight are unheathly and whilst I’m not saying everyone who is normal weight is, there are a lot who aren’t, that doesn’t make it ok for fat people to be fat basically…

First, before I say anything else, I want to say that I really like the way that you approached this subject. I’ve seen a lot of similar posts here on Xanga and they all sounded like someone was getting very offensive or someone was getting very defensive, depending on what side of this debate that they were on. I think that you were very fair in what you had to say and very honest and that you did so while keeping in mind that this is a sensitive subject for a lot of people, as well as a hot button topic for a lot of people, and that to me it didn’t sound at all like you were trying to offend anyone and it didn’t sound at all like you were being intolerant. I am going to rec your post for that, because I think it raises the right issues.

However, I don’t feel that more and more people in America are becoming overweight because of “fat acceptance,” rather I think its instead because Americans often have this “if it feels good, do it” attitude. And eating feels good. Its fun, or it gives you something to do when you’re bored, or it helps you to cope when you’re upset, etc. And, not to mention, if you’re eating something that you like, it TASTES good! Which is always nice!

I get what you’re saying, though. Having a body that distributes the weight differently on yourself so that you look bigger than you actually are, and being genuinely overweight are two very different things. And you’re right.

And, you’re right that if you really are overweight, you are not leading a healthy lifestyle and you are currently very likely unhealthy and if not now, then you will be down the road eventually if the lifestyle is not corrected.

Nobody should feel ashamed of themselves, though, and nobody should hate themselves over this. And nobody should have to feel ostracized. I’m glad that you also pointed that out. There is nothing wrong with supporting overweight people while also encouraging a healthy lifestyle. You CAN do both. It just takes acceptance, compassion and understanding of the fact that overweight people are human beings, as well, and every bit as valuable as anyone else. Gaining weight is very, very easy, often times you might not even realize it until you’ve already past a level of weight that you shouldn’t have. Losing the weight is twenty times harder than gaining it. Especially for women, who usually have bodies that are designed to keep weight on one way or another.

A lot of people kind of forget, I think, that you can accept a person for who they are and help them accept themselves for who they are, but also compassionately encourage them to be healthy in all aspects of their life, as well. You don’t have to do either one or the other. It doesn’t have to be something where you either attack an overweight person for being overweight in hopes that they realize it is “not okay” or you just blindly tell them that they’re healthy when they aren’t. It doesn’t have to be that way.

And when people forget that, that’s when the real problems happen. Because, people are “attacking” others and those people feel as if they have to defend themselves, and nothing gets through to anyone and nothing gets done, and it just becomes PART of the problem.

I’ve been fat, now I am not, so I feel qualified to respond to this. When I was fat, it was because I ate too much, ate non healthy stuff and didn’t move enough. When I stopped doing those things, I got thin.

My sister’s are fat, so I could easily have used the “it’s not my fault, it’s in my genes” excuse, but in the end…I’d still be fat.

Other vices…people get called out on…smoking, using too many drugs, drinking too much, etc. I knew, whether I admitted it or not in mixed company, why I was fat. I overindulged. I ate to “reward” myself, etc. I see and hear other people doing this all the time…then wanting my pity because they just can’t lose weight.

I know where they are coming from…and I have sympathy. Overeating is often an addiction and it is VERY hard to overcome, because you can’t just stop eating like you can stop drugging or consuming alcohol or smoking. You HAVE to eat.

I am in recovery for substance abuse, so I know what it’s like to struggle with addiction, to have to deal with feelings rather than mask them, drown them, etc. I appreciate how difficult it is. I am not blaming people for being overweight, it’s a complicated issue, but neither are we doing them or society good by justifying it, supporting it, etc.

It KILLS people, it drains money from the healthcare system, it promotes malnutrition among adults AND the children in those homes who have a model of  unhealthy eating. I see people on foodstamps buying junk food…and then they don’t have the money to buy healthy food for themselves and their kids.

I was at a dinner the other night, a “wrap up dinner” for pregnant high school girls who participated in a “stay in school” program. The menu was salad, baked spaghetti, rolls, cookies…at the end of the night there were several bins of salad untouched, three of the spaghetti bins were totally empty and the remaining one had all the cheese topping peeled off, the roll bins were full, and the cookies…all gone.

Enabling people to continue in unhealthy behavior that hurts themselves, their kids and society doesn’t make much sense. Encouraging them to feel good about themselves no matter the consequences of their behavior…makes less sense.

Yeah…people will do what they will do. We can’t force someone to eat healthy and exercise more…but we can call obesity what it is. That doesn’t mean put down the people who have it, but it does mean that we shouldn’t pretend it’s something to be proud of.

Obesity is classified as malnutrition. It’s a serious condition, not merely a self esteem issue.

Look, lets face it: the starting point of what the majority of society veiws as fat isn’t even overweight at all. Obviously, being obese is very unhealthy (and clearly visable), but there are many people who veiw slender and toned as the only healthy body type. This sets up people with healthy pudge (that their doctors could care less about) to be put into the fat-and-lazy category as well, putting them at risk for deteriorating mental health which could very well cause a deterioration in psysical health in order to obtain the body idealized for its “health”.

If your BMI is under 18.5, you should probably talk to a doctor about whether or not you should consider gaining weight. If your weight is negatively effecting your health, you should gain weight.

If your BMI is over 30, you need to talk to your doctor about possible lifestyle changes. Being obese can seriously effect your health, and if it is/has, then it’s time to make a change.

If your BMI is between 18.6 (approx.) to 25, you’re healthy. You/society may think you’re a little too skinny/pudgy. If someone has a problem with it, they obviously love living in their materialistic, shallow utopia. Love yourself, and remember you have the right to defend yourself (as respectfully as possible). No one ever changed the world by keeping quiet.

If your BMI is between 25-30, you’re (OMG!) clinically considered overweight. Keep in mind, the vast majority of those in the overweight category are only at risk for health problems, meaning that the vast majority do not have health problems. If you live on junk food and refuse to exercise, you should listen to this because you’re at risk for the health problems associated with your possible future obesity. There are, however, many “overweight” people who stay active, eat healthy, and have well functioning (aka healthy) bodies that are horribly criticized every day because they don’t fit into the stereotype of what “healthy” looks like.

Learning to accept those with a curvier body type should not be considered “fat acceptance”; it only furthers the stereotype that they are fat. I honestly believe the word “fat” should be banished. There are those that have well functioning bodies, and those people deserve to be happy with themselves and happy in life. And guess what? Overweight and obese people deserve to be happy with themselves too, and they deserve to have people that care about them as who they are so that they have support in making the lifestyle changes needed to live a happy, healthy life.

@onetwelvee@xanga Marilyn was a size 8/10, and by her hip measurement and the current Victorias Secret size chart, she is a modern day size 6. Please compare Lara Stone (the size 4 model featured in Vogue) to a picture of Marilyn. Perhaps this is due to the difference in skeletal structures, but Ms. Norma Jean was beautifully curvy in comparison to today’s standard runway model. It would really mean a lot to me if you were to check out my previous comment on this post

Ughh.

@goalsforjanuary@xanga - Size sixteen does not equal obesity, are you stupid? BMI is what determines if you’re obese.

Anyways. I agree that by raising our standards of sizes we’re increasing our risk. Loving yourself for who and what you are is good, but you do have to look at the bigger picture. If I turned around tomorrow and had diabetes I would not really love myself. I’d be pretty pissed at myself for getting diabetes.

yes, never in my life have I seen an overweight person with consistent healthy eating habits

there’s a line between being over weight and being obese. i’m overweight. i’m also naturally big bones and full figured, even if you took all the extra weight out of me, i’ll never be a small girl. i’m also (dare i say it) healthy at the weight i am. my own personal risk for diabetes and heart disease is no different here than when i’m smaller, because my family has a history of diabetes so really, i’m either going to get it or i’m not and my weight won’t affect it… but i really do eat healthfully… i just like food, a lot. so i’ll get a second helping when i’m home and not worry about it because i’m me and it doesn’t matter what other people think of me because i AM happy, and i AM healthy. seriously, if i eat mcdonalds or burger king or whatever i FEEL gross and greesy and *shudders* it’s just not okay. and i think i’m getting rambly… but, being overweight vs. being obese is similar to the fine line between skinny/picky eater and underweight/annorexic you can’t make an assumption just by looking at them, more you have to pay attention to the way they behave around food, i guess… i mean, i know a girl who’s a third my size who eats five times as much i do… everyone’s different, so while we can’t say “hey you 500 pound man, you’re so thiiiiiiiiiiiiin” you can’t say that EVERY 300 pound person is morbidly obese and going to die. you kind of have to live and let live unless it’s someone really close to you. and even then you need to be gentle because most of us fatties are kind of sensitive.

@goalsforjanuary@xanga - sixteen is only obese if you’re about 5’0. clothing size and numeric weight can not judge whether someone is obese or not. obeisity has to do with the fat ratio in an individual’s body. i know people who weigh nearly 300 pounds because they’re 6’4 and solid muscle. how about paying attention to the world around you.

This fat acceptance thing is as retarded as the pro-ana movement. They’re both just sugar coating the fact that if you treat your body really badly, you’re gonna die.

I’m so pleased to see the general attitude here! Taking the attitude of acceptance by those who are obese is a crutch and they won’t be able to float on that river in Egypt (“De Nile”) forever without serious repercussions.

My big beef is with the food processing industry and I’ve posted about this on my site. More and more studies about brain circuitry is strong evidence that we’re being programmed by their fat/sugar/salt additions to all the processed garbage they advertise and they’re getting rich off of our fallibility. In the long run, it’s costing us more and more because of all the health problems being created.

It gives new meaning to the expression, “less is more.” We get more benefits by eating less, stopping when we’re full if not just a little before we reach that point, and avoiding everything that has the tell-tale combination of fat, sugar and salt.

Thanks folks!

Agreed. There’s no problem with being “overweight,” but if you take up two seats in a plane, for example, then there are some serious issues at hand. There’s nothing “beautiful” about being so fat you have to waddle instead of walk, and there’s certainly nothing healthy either.

I dare say the “pro-ana” movement is FAR more dangerous than the “fat acceptance” movement.

no offense but I think really fat people should stop crying and start sweating after a good long session of exercising that weight off. yknow, fatness in a person isn’t just physically unattractive. it shows that they’re probably lazy and eat disgustingly greasy foods. it shows that they’re probably prone to insecurity issues. it shows that they may die earlier than others, or may just be prone to serious health issues that also effect the people around them. it shows that they may not be able to walk for more than five minutes without being covered in sweat. are any of those factors attractive? I don’t think so.

i am SO FUCKING SICK of hearing and reading about peoples weight. if people were truely happy with the way they were they wouldnt constantly bring it up. Bigger people who bitch about thin people are jealous. Face it and shut up. YOU’RE JEALOUS. Like monique would say skinny bitches are evil..What did she do..Lost weight because she wasnt happy with herself and was just in denial. Those people who are bigger and healthy are mainly muscle. When you dont move your ass your muscle turns to fat. The fat acceptance is pretty much a chubby acceptance. Being over weight by 10-20lbs is reasonable but more than that is a health risk. Plain and simple. Wanna feel better about yourself? EXCERCISE. You dont have to join a gym or get excercise equipment or even leave the house. Clean your house,rearrange furniture,put on some music and dance around. Stop spending money on heart attacks. Cook your own meal,sit down,eat it. If people actually took care of themselves instead of whining about people not accepting them there would be no type 2 diabetes,childhood obesity,and all the other complications that come with this.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - ”We should stop having underweight acceptance and feed models hamburgers. All underweight people are unhealthy.”

I see what you did there! Excellent, truly excellent.

People should love themselves and accept themselves the way they are.  People who are overweight should not be made to feel ridicule, like they do not belong, or like they are less than anyone else.  I do think that some people use the fat acceptance movement an excuse to just be overweight despite the fact that they have been told they are unhealthy.  These people are rare.  Most people who are overweight just want to be accepted and treated with dignity and respect.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Actually i just looked up what a person of my body type and age is supposed to weigh and I’m underweight. I’m not unhealthy at all. I don’t work out, I eat healthy and I eat a lot. So stop generalizing. That’s like saying all fat people don’t care about what they eat and never work out. You sound very ignorant when you make generalizations like that.

Here’s a crazy idea – how about people get over their obsession with what OTHER people look like and worry about themselves. Some people are too fat and some people are too skinny – who the hell cares? Unless people are specifically asking you for your take on whether they are healthy or should change their lifestyle, mind your own fucking business. 

@pinkiscool224466@xanga - You’re slow.

Do you think that ridiculing fat people will make them lose weight? You know what? I am one of those unfortunate people who have normal weight but still look fat. Okay, my face and my tummy are fatty, dunno why but my BMI is perfectly normal and my weight is also in the middle of the normal range. There are people who still call me fat. And I know that I am leading a healthy lifestyle and I go to regular checkups, I exercise and eat just as any healthy person will do… Once upon a time, I was slightly overweight but I looked so fat (fatter than my actual weight would imply), I was sad because people kept on teasing me and bullying me and calling me names and discriminating against me. Moreover, in HK, people would rather be anorexically thin than be even a little leaning towards overweight in the normal weight range. This is dangerously abnormal and their standards of beauty are quite extreme (in my opinion). Also, our weight and body fat composition has something to do with genes.

In order to be healthy, it’s important to feel good about yourself.  Being overweight isn’t good for you, but accepting yourself as you are is the first step to becoming more healthy. You can only start from where you are.

I think some people are compromising their health. I mean, it’s one thing to be a bit overweight, have some curves and “junk in the trunk”, and love yourself the way you are. More power to you, in fact. But It’s another thing to have so much extra fat that it causes major health problems, and be fine with it. Clogged arteries, heart attacks, diabetes, and breathing problems are NOT ok!

thats sad. people need to realize that being fat is NOT GOOD for your body and they you WILL usually die earlier and have many health problems…

Here’s the deal:

1) Old habits are hard to break. That includes the bad ones. So if you are used to rolling out of bed in just enough time to throw on clothes and stop by the McDonald’s on your way to work/school, it’s going to take effort to NOT do that anymore. That’s just one little example, but there are plenty more, I assure you.

2) Everything is way too easy. Motorized shopping carts are meant for the elderly and injured, not the obese. But now the only people I ever see using them are the obese. I realize that ankles, knees, and backs may hurt due to the strain of carrying around excess fat, but I wonder how they think riding around, as opposed to walking, is going to help them? And Taco Bell’s “Drive-Thru Diet,” though I do recognize it as a marketing ploy only furthers the laziness of it all. If you want to lose weight, look for every opportunity to exercise. Including getting up and walking into Taco Bell.

3) Nutrition education is sub-par. I’m not saying those that go out and try to teach kids, adults, or whoever about nutrition is doing a bad job. But they need to use facts and numbers to SCARE people into eating right! People need to understand why whole grains, fiber, and monounsaturated fats are good and why saturated fats, cholesterol, and sodium need to be kept in check. Along the same lines, I believe all restaurants should have up-front nutritional information. Not just on their website (even though most of America has Internet access, still many don’t), and not just in fine print on a “Nutritional Facts” poster. I’m talking big, bold numbers right next to the menu item. Even if it only lists the number of calories (which for a lot of people is the only thing on a nutrition label they understand).

I am all about accepting people for who they are, obese or anorexic. If someone chooses to live their life eating everything they want when they want, more power to them. However, I do feel that if everyone were properly educated about nutrition and the long-term effects of bad habits, obesity would not be the problem it is today. People need to understand that there is no such thing as “bad” foods, those are just foods to be consumed in moderation. Moderation is something a lot of Americans know nothing about.

I’m not done, really, but I’m calling it quits. xoxo

@tracezilla - YES! i think you have said it better than me.

and also, i wrote my comment over a span of two hours b/c my co-worker is gone today and i have to assist with EVERYTHING! i know, i know, i’m at work! BUT — i did want to say that i also liked how the article was written. it was much more balanced than a lot of articles i’ve read on similar topics.

Fact: the world is not made of sunshine and rainbows. It would be boring if it was.

If you are obese (if I can tell that your body mass index is incorrect by just looking at you for squirrel’s sake) I am not going to have any sympathy for you at all.

So you have serious self-worth and self-image issues? It’s called natural selection; and it’s happening.
You have a crippling hereditary disease that keeps you unhealthy? That sucks, don’t have kids though, we don’t need that in the gene pool.

Reality is going to be a lot more cruel to you than I could ever be even if I tried. So you can take offense and play the victim all you like. Just let me know when you’re done feeling sorry for yourself and you’re ready to stfu and do something about it.

I hate the phrase “fat acceptance”. I agree with “body acceptance” a hell of a lot more. Everyone should love their body, but people with unhealthy bodies need to realize how to make themselves healthy. That’s what matters…or what should.

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - No, not all underweight people are unhealthy. It is perfectly capable to fall slightly under the BMI line of underweight and be healthy. If you notice, there are level of weight when it increases on the BMI, but going under it’s either normal or underweight. Since the transition to underweight is so rapid on the BMI, it can be seen that healthy individuals can easily fall into that section. 

@GiantUnicorn@xanga - i agree! everytime I go to a waterpark, i feel so skinny in comparison. it’s crazy.

@tykazowsky@xanga - You can’t be serious. It’s WAY more socially acceptable to be thin than it is to be fat, I am definitely not buying your argument. If making fun of fat people is totally taboo and no one does it, then why is there a need for a body acceptance movement? Riddle me that. By the way, skinny people are included in this movement as well, so you really have no leg to stand on.

I walked down the street once behind a bigger woman, and car full of guys yelled “HEY FATASS” at her as they drove by. What was that again about how skinny people get shit all the time? Fat people are never ridiculed? Riiiight.

It’s not even about individual people talking to individual people, its the greater societal moral panic over obesity. Sure not many people will say “you’re unhealthy. you need to lose weight” to someone’s face, but its kind of like the elephant in the room. You think people don’t know when they’re being judged? It’s the same reason why people will point out my height to me (I’m 6 feet) but will never make comments about a short person’s height to their face (ie. “you’re short”). One is seen as more admirable than the other for whatever reason. Anyway, I’ve never seen an ad saying “Too skinny? Try this supplement!” But there are ads EVERYWHERE stressing the importance of thinness through gyms, diet pills, meal plans, etc etc the list goes on. Society operates on the assumption that ANY excess fat on your body is unhealthy which is not even remotely true. Being fat is not a death sentence. There is less panic about skinniness, and if there is some great concern about skinny people not eating enough, it’s reserved for the people who are clearly emaciated or close to it. The “obesity epidemic” and “fat is unhealthy” hysteria often includes people who are in the middle range BMI wise, who are thought of as fat or chubby even though they’re not even close, and who are therefore given the “unhealthy” stamp.

I’m fairly certain that whether we are skinny or fat or in the middle, we all want to be treated like human beings with feelings. That’s what this movement is about.

And weren’t you just talking about how you eat tons and have a mad metabolism and that’s why you’re skinny? You’re not exactly in the position to make judgements about people who probably eat less than you but have slower metabolisms. Just because you’re lucky enough to have a high metabolism and you stay thin doesn’t mean that you won’t have a heart attack somewhere down the line. Sorry about the novel I have a lot to say on this topic.

@Coke0@xanga - haha. true. good stuff. i dont even remember where i was coming from in that response… maybe i meant to click someone else name… 

i think i was saying simply that… i know society looks down upon excess body weight, but socially its rude to say anything about it. it is not considered rude for someone who is overweight to tell a thin person to eat more. i dont know why i was saying this, and looking at your comment, i dont know why i felt you had the need to hear it… it was late (4AM here)

@tykazowsky@xanga - haha I was kinda wondering that myself…I don’t think you meant to reply to me. Buuuut you got my 2 cents anyway…sorry if it was rude haha.

@Coke0@xanga - no worries, and no, i actually quite enjoyed it and i agree with basically everything you said

Obesity is like a plague, and the body count keeps rising. I’ll be frank though I am highly afraid of obese women. Have you ever had two fat women threaten to eat you, and then moved the counter several inches towards you at work by leaning on it trying to grab  you??? It was the scariest moment of my life! I ran and threw their order of crazy bread at them, and one of them ate it in two bites and got mad that she wasn’t full!!! They then bought five pizzas (little ceasar’s 5 dollar hot’n'ready) and had two finished within the five feet between the door and the counter. Obesity can do this to people, it’s scary… I really hope they were strung out on meth, crack, heroine or something but still… What kind of people can move a counter by leaning on it???

-sigh- I love how everyone makes a big deal out of it, no pun intended.

I agree, being obese is not healthy. [And yeah... I know this sounds hypocritical, but I'm working on it.] However… going, “Hey fattie, what are you going to do, eat me?” WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER. In fact, it demotivates people. Trust me… my whole life, everyone made all sorts of comments like that, and it just lead me to not doing anything. It took a very special person in my life to first off, get me to realize that I am beautiful, no matter what. However, secondly, he helped me change my lifestyle, by us walking to places we have to/need to go to that’s within a decent walking range, eating right, etc. And now… at my lowest weight [which was 235... holiday came around...], I’ve lost 35 pounds. I have an idea… instead of just commenting on the way a person looks, how about asking them to walk to meet you somewhere… or walking with you to a certain place?

[/end rant]

@Adwaiy@xanga - you missed the point. Go read.

@TheRealMelanie@xanga - I absolutely agree with you!  If you hate your body, it can make you feel helpless and cause you to continue to overeat and make the problem worse.  If you are able to love yourself with whatever body size/shape you have, you can use that confidence to propel you into a healthier lifestyle.  I think the point is that the focus should not be on appearance but on health.  Once you accept your appearance as it is, you can focus on your health.

Kudos to you for such a well-written, clearly stated piece. You are correct. I do believe it is hurting people. I am one of those bigger girls and while I love having curves, I am not too proud to admit that I am, indeed, too heavy right now. I can lose weight and still keep my curves – I just need less weight on my body. I can be curvy and healthy, but quite honestly, I am overweight at this point. I’ve been a healthy weight before and I need to get back there again – and stay there this time .

the “fat acceptance” is only about society. It’s the overweight person who decides to be complacent or not. 

Thanks for all the feedback. It’s been interesting to see what everyone’s view on this issue is.

@SeitekiChibiNeko@xanga - these aren’t necessarily strangers. these can be family members, friends, co-workers…people you care about. i think when 60% of americans are overweight, it’s safe to say that it can be a personal issue.

@StacyREdwards@xanga - thank you i think you can achieve that healthy balance now that you’ve recognized that you’re not where you need or want to be. it’s never too late to make a healthy change.

@GorgeousGracie09@xanga - i agree that shaming does not result in will power to change. i think “fat acceptance” has good intentions but intentions are not good enough. you can accept that you’re fat but you can also accept that you have the power to change that. with the right support, as you said, people can reach health

@letmyriverflow@xanga - I agree with you 100%. This what I was talking about when I wrote that society should not be complacent. Lack of education, lack of information, lack of motivation needs to change. As you said, restaurants need to be more open, people need to be more education, and I think people need to get rid of their defeatist attitudes. Losing weight is hard. It is super hard, but it’s not impossible. People need support from their society.

@PrettyRoses - i think a person should accept who they are and the fact that they have the power to change who they are if the wish to do so.

@driftingpebble@xanga - 100% agree with you. Thank you for sharing.

@tracezilla - thanks! i agree that people should love their body, but i also think that loving your body is giving it the best care within your power. people should have a healthy body image and a healthy life.

@Gorrific@xanga - @Cosmar@xanga -  not being complacent doesn’t equal mocking. it actually means the opposite: caring enough about this widespread and potentially dangerous trend and doing something about it. increasing education in schools, passing more regulations in the food industry to protect the health of citizens, making gyms and fitness programs more accessible and affordable, creating support groups, etc.

@Coke0@xanga - my right to say someone is unhealthy is my first amendment right thankyouverymuch. i agree with you that an unhealthy society results in unhealthy people. that’s what my post is all about. changing society so that health is promoted over, as you mentioned, materialism, high fructose, and instant gratification. i don’t understand why you think it’s not related to health. i agree with you that people may have superficial motivations, but let’s consider children who don’t even have a chance becasue their parents are passing on their unhealthy lifestyle, or people who are incapacitated due to their weight, or death by obesity. just because it’s one of many dangers doesn’t mean people should stop talking about it.

@algebraicdisco@xanga - even without universal healthcare, you are still paying for obesity-related complications with tax money, but that’s not the point. we are a society and if everyone had the attitude of “it’s not my body” or “it’s not my business” then the world would be worse off. unless you have zero overweight/obese people in your life (which is highly unlikely considering that 60% of Americans are overweight or obese), then it does affect you in some way.

@MangoWOW@xanga - haha. it can tricky if you don’t word it right.

@Coke0@xanga Awesome comment, I’m with you 100% on that! We clearly have similar views, so please check out my comment on the previous page. I’m thinking of writing a post on the topic and if you’d like some input I’d love to quote you on a few things lol.

@onetwelvee@xanga - @crystaldurden@xanga – Actually Marylin was a size 16, but that was in a dressmaker’s sizing. It’s different than the clothing sizes. A 16 in a dressmaking/patternmaking size is about equal to 8 or 10 in clothing sizes.

I don’t know why it’s different, but it is.

I really don’t care what people do with their bodies.  But what really pisses me off is that broccoli is more expensive than a cheeseburger.  Why? Because poor families can’t give their kids good nutrition and are setting them up for health problems along the way.  Which will give those children medical bills, and drive them into debt.  THAT is what makes me angry. Everybody who decides that an apple is just not good enough anymore are the ones endorsing this screwed up plan.
If people ate better, we’d have a huge turn in the system. But no, being overweight is okay now. It’s okay to feed a growing child lipids and chemicals.  Oh okay, bullshit me all you want but being overweight isn’t just bad because of image/health.  It’s bad for everybody, and that is the truth.

@rizzyBeautifullyBroken@xanga - 

“not being complacent doesn’t equal mocking. it actually means the opposite: caring enough about this widespread and potentially dangerous trend and doing something about it. increasing education in schools, passing more regulations in the food industry to protect the health of citizens, making gyms and fitness programs more accessible and affordable, creating support groups, etc. “

Ah, okay, I see what you are getting it. ^_^
I’m still not sure I entirely agree, though.
It seems like that would be coddling fat people.
“Oh, you poor dears. You don’t exercise or eat right, and we CARE whether you die of obesity related illnesses so we’ll make common sense even MORE accesible”
I’m sorry, but if you can’t realize that stuffing your face with junk and not exercising is gonna make you fat and unhealthy then you’re at a very advanced stage of ignorance.

And I’m no health nut.
I am absolutely addicted to junk food, fast food, anything greasy, sugary, carbohydratey I can get my paws on, but I have the common sense to know that the more I ingest, the worse it is for me.
Okay, support groups, I totally understand since a lot of these fat people have these bad habits ingrained in them, and need support from other fatties going through the same problem.
Makes sense~

Maybe I’m being heartless, but I really think fat people don’t need any more help; the information on how to get healthy is avaliable, all they have to do is get off the couch and google it.
If I was fat, I wouldn’t expect to depend on society, I would have to get my fat ass up MYSELF and do something about my obesity problem.

And passing more regulations in the food industry?!
THAT IS BLASPHEMOUS!
Where the hell is humanity’s self control?
Nutrition facts are, again, readily avaliable, I do NOT want my food restricted, because some stupid fat ass has to cry that it is the food industry making them fat, because they make such horribly fattening foods, and the poor fat asses just HAVE to eat them.. they can’t help it.. they can’t resist.
(Are we as pliable as play dough or something?)
Eff that.
Mostly because.. where does this stop?!?!?!
I’m going to have nightmares about a future without chocolate, candy, and mcdonalds.

NOTE: FAT PEOPLE: IT IS YOUR JOB TO GET UNFAT. SO NO TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY FATTENING FOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO SELF CONTROL.

^ Haha okay, I was totally being overdramatic with that last sentence, it sounded funny, I had to type it.

I agree with what the poster says, but what I really want to say is, I LIKE LOVELYISH’S NEW LOOK

@rizzyBeautifullyBroken@xanga - this isn’t a free speech issue, this is about not making false accusations of people and hurting their feelings, and maybe thinking about how your words will affect people??? I guess its just my personal opinion that this is about looks and not health, but I think its pretty obvious that this is the case. Oftentimes in the media someone with a bit of tummy chub (who is not even close to being fat and certainly won’t have health issues directly caused by their small amount of stomach fat) will get comments about how thats SO UNHEALTHY. Its about aesthetics and nothing related to health. As I mentioned already, tons of people do tons of unhealthy things all the time, yet no one gets ostracized the way fat people do, because hey, at least they’re not ugly right??? No one is concerned about fat people’s health unless its regarding people’s own selfish interests in public health care (“why should MY tax dollars go to fat people, blah blah blah”), they only care about not having to look at fat people. 

@Shattered_Reflection13@xanga - yes I’d love to! Finally someone who agrees with me!! I totally don’t mind if you quote me let me know if you’ll be writing it its clearly something I love talking about haha

Amen!

I believe that you should love the way you are but not at the risk of hurting yourself or your family. I’m overweight actually and I’ve been working to lose the weight. I know that carrying around these extra pounds is detrimental to my health. Yes, I love myself right now but I’ll love the healthier me even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Fat-o-sphere-Dieting-Declare-Truce/dp/0399534970/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&sr=8-1

I suggest that all of you highly uninformed people read this book by Kate Harding and Marianne Kirby and stop over-generalizing, stereotyping and marginalizing.

I think you should always love and appreciate yourself – enough to take care of your health!

I’m 135 and 5’2 -  also swim three hours a day, wear a size 4, eat 90% egg whites and lean meat, and can do more push-ups than most men.  Being too thin or too fat should not be accepted, regardless of feelings.  I’d rather have hurt feelings than die from obesity or an eating disorder.

This is a ridiculous comment and shows how ignorant and sad your little mind is. I have thin friends I have big friends and i have a friend who is obese and eats healthier then all my friends, so they deserve to die because they have a thyroid that hasnt worked for many years? This person used to be a college baseball player and very athletic, it happened fast and quick and he has been fighting the whole way. As far as the water park comment goes, everybody has a right to wear what they wish and to enjoy a water park, perhaps if you dont like how they look you should turn away. You must beyoung and immature, or one with a small heart and even smaller mind. I can only hope your children never have health issue that cause them to gain weight, for they will be disowned by you and wished to death. Whats wrong with you? Ignorance is bliss I guess! Everyone should try to be healthy, but size and looks should not determine their worthyness of life. Health should be the driving motivation, not trying to please ignorant and shallow people like yourself!@GiantUnicorn@xanga - 

@hedcandy@xanga - Wow you are something…I’m not sure what. As far as taxes being used, you might not want to aim at the overweight community, but maybe you need to open your eyes to the health issue of all people today. Alcoholism is huge and causes so many health problems its ridiculous. The food industry’s standards of what poisons are ok in the human body and feeding us crap is causing a huge cancer rise. The crap that most people in a whole digest everyday are causing huge cholesterol issues and blood pressure issues, that cause strokes and heart attacks. Yes being overweight is so not healthy, but please educate yourself on where tax dollars truly go before speaking of such insanity. Do you know that the foods we digest that have been pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics cause some bodies to have major fluctuations in their estrogen levels, and having your hormones unbalanced can cause your body to have trouble losing weight. Science is showing more and more proof that it isnt just as easy as exercising and eating perfectly, that it is the toxic crap in our environment that is causing our health problems. Nobody should feel it is healthy to be overweight or obese, but actually attacking that community based on health care taxes is absurd and ridiculous. I live in America and dish out my taxes to a large variety of people who scam the system, so get over yourself. If the person is getting weight loss surgery then they are trying to help themselves. Its so easy to attack the outcome of societal issues but no one wants to educate them on the source. If you want to lower the health care tax, be proactive and educate yourself on the crap that our governments are allowing in our food, this is the reason we are all sick, fat thin or average, we are all less healthy because of this!

@Cosmar@xanga - Yet another phenomenal statement from a very ignorant person. 

A: The term Fattie makes you look like an idiot, You are apparently a heartless human being who has nothing better to do then belittle people in this world. B: Unhealthy food is the same for everyone. You think heavy people just sit around eating food all day and stuff there faces. Get out of your shallow little box. The world is filled with many different people with different body types and metabolisms. You are fortunate enough to be able to eat you crap food and stay thin, but believe me sweetheart body size doesnt mean health. You are digesting the same chemical filled toxic shit into your system and are increasing your chances of illness the same as them. Example if a person eats a whole pizza and can stay thin, and a person can eat a slice and gain weight, that doesn’t make the person eating the whole pizza more healthy. It makes them a person who is ignorantly going to kill themselves with high cholesterol and have a stroke. Crap food is crap food, and the food industry damn well better get more people to stand up against it, it has extremely low standards and is poisoning this whole country. We have toxic chemicals and fillers added to everything, and fillers that mess with the way our body processes things, our nutrients are being stripped out and dangerous toxic chemicals are being put in. An ignorant person thinks that crap food is a blessing and begs people not to have it changed.C:You are not above insult my dear, be careful what you say to others, because you are not perfect, and you may not like a similarly ignorant heartless person calling you names. If more people actually cared about each other, many of our issues would be null and void. Do you even realize that most of obesity is a outcome of low self esteem and mental coping. Over eating is usually an issue that comes from trying to cope with what is going on in your life and threw your mind. If people weren’t so quick to put others down they may actually stop and get to know a person and figure out where this problem is coming from. Food addiction is a addiction just like alcoholism and drug addiction. Believe me I struggled threw anorexia and bulimia, and once I was able to fix my internal struggles, I was able to fix my eating disorder and health issues. Don’t be so quick to trash others, it just makes you look like a jerk, and I’d rather hang out with a 7oolb person over a jerk any-day. At least a heavy person can get healthy, it will take a lot more to get a heartless person a heart.  Would you want your children to be put down by someone like you?

@chaospet@xanga - I think you said that beautifully!

@healthyisbeautiful - 

Haha~
Calm down for a few reasons:
A,) You don’t know shit about me.
B.) You will never know shit about me, nor do you want to, so stop QQing at me, because:
C.) I don’t care and:
D.) It will not make me change my opinions

Yes, I am:
Heartless, rude, uncaring, arrogant, annoying, and the worst sonuvabitch you could ever hope (or rather not hope? XD) to run into. But thankfully, I’m ME AND I DON’T GIVE A SHIT WOO HOO!!!!!

 ”Crap food is crap food, and the food industry damn well better get more people to stand up against it, it has extremely low standards and is poisoning this whole country.”

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Don’t care, people are responsible for their own food choices. Healthy foods are avaliable, it’s YOUR fault if you’d rather stick with “crap food”.

“You are not above insult my dear, be careful what you say to others, because you are not perfect”

Really? And I assumed no one would dare to insult me.
And why is this a bad thing?! IT’S GREAT! I love insults, they make me giggle.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Do you have anything else glaringly apparent you would like to add?
I’m the FIRST to admit I’m not perfect.
Hell, I’m so far from perfect that I’d have to spend a couple centuries digging myself to AVERAGE to get anywhere NEAR perfect.
Why are you calling me “My dear”?
I was under the impression that you rather didn’t like me. xD
Make up your mind, already!

“Don’t be so quick to trash others, it just makes you look like a jerk”

I am a jerk, I feel terrible, I cannot believe how completely unfeeling I was to people’s troubles, how will I ever be able to cope with my sins? I will at once change my evil ways, and try to be a kinder person. (Would you like me to keep going or is that enough bullshit for you?)
I don’t care what other people think; it’s better for me to say what I truly think/feel than waste my time on bullshit just because some sap ain’t gonna like what I have to say.
It’s too bad, I’m not here to make myself look good, I’m here to BE myself.

“it will take a lot more to get a heartless person a heart.  Would you want your children to be put down by someone like you? “

I hate kids.

And lastly,
HAHAHAHA
I cried laughing while reading your comment and while replying.
This has been fun.
Do reply so I can enjoy more!

@Cosmar@xanga - I’m not going to argue with you. You are no more willing to change your obvious issues with your attitude then the “fatties” that you think should get some willpower and change what they eat. Don’t judge other people and put them down for their inabilities to make a change, if you have no intention of changing the issues you have. I feel sorry for you if you know your a jerk and hurt others and you have no care to change that. I can’t even imagine what happened in your life to make you this way. Laugh all you want, I think it’s sad. Being yourself is a great thing, but is this really who you are, or did something change you along the way. Make you jaded and careless with other peoples feelings. You can be honest without being an asshole. You can be forthright without being cruel. I didn’t really look into how old you are, but I’m guessing you are young, and if I’m wrong then perhaps you just haven’t grown up. Good Luck, and by the way I’m pretty sure you’re not the baddest son of a bitch out there, or that I have met, but way to keep your goals high. What a worthy thing to shoot for! 

@healthyisbeautiful - 

Why are you repeating what I’ve already said?
I told you already I’m not going to change, and you’re telling me.. what is the point in this?
I’m most def. not arguing, I’m just amusing myself. xD
I honestly don’t have a problem with fatties, I just don’t like all the QQing because I’m an insensetive bastard. I don’t think they need anymore help than getting on google and looking the information up. That’s just me. I think there are bigger fish to fry.
Sit the fatties down and make them watch “Super size me”
There is plenty of useful information in that film, to educate them on fattyism.
Why does my youth have anything to with, well, anything?
And how do you judge “growing up:”?
When is this miraculous age that on their birthday, a person becomes “Grown up”?
Yeah, it doesn’t exist, because it’s bullshit. People are people and age has no bearing on how they act.
Everything has an effect on how people “are”.
Events in our lives shape our personality. That’s what makes personality such an amazing thing, because nobody’s personality is identical to another, because no two people have lived the exact same lives. IT’S A BEAUTIFUL THING. -wipes away tears-
A person isn’t born kind, happy, cheerful, nor is a person born an asshole (Though I’d really like to argue that I was.. but it’s probably not true, can’t remember the early years, anyway. I bet I was a right little sociopath baby.)

“Don’t judge other people and put them down for their inabilities to make a change, if you have no intention of changing the issues you have.”

I’m not judging them because they aren’t changing; the only point I was making, is that, if they want to change, they are going to have to do it theirselves, nobody is gonna pull that food out of their paws, or tie them to a treadmill.
What issues are you referring to that I have no intention of changing, anyway? o.0 xD

@midnight_apparition@xanga - I don’t think anybody who is overweight is truly content with it. However I think they say that so people stop hurting there feelings. It is that whole theory that when people put you down pretend it doesn’t matter. Saying that you are happy at a larger size is a defense mechanism used to help them deal. It is a very hard journey for a person to lose a lot of weight. Food is everywhere. And as much as you and I enjoy a great meal and yummy foods, heavy people do to. So for a person to go out with their friends and get salad without dressing while their friends are sharing nachos and mozzarella sticks and unlimited breadsticks, is extremely hard. They enjoy those things just as much. Everybody is different with how their body responds to what they eat. Health should be at the for front for all people. Mozzarella sticks are no more healthy for skinny people then they are for heavy and if this is truly about health then we all need a makeover. Weight can be very hard to get off for people, and it is a huge battle, the more people around them make it negative the more likely they are to fail, and they will always have to say they are happy at their size… Everybody needs to walk a mile in other peoples shoes. I think you were right about them not being happy at that size, but theres a reason they feel forced to make that statement. We need to be a country of cheerleaders instead of a country of critics. Good post though!

@CATe_in_a_hat@xanga - No you should love yourself, you are doing more to keep yourself healthy then most people I know. Size is not an accurate representation of health or lifestyle.

@sky_light_eyes@xanga - Awesome! You said it beautifully and congrats on your weight loss, your right its not easy, and you should feel proud!

at least this chick is trying to exercise, lets give her that much

@healthyisbeautiful - I read some of your other comment and you always tried to be polite even when disagreeing.  Thank you.  There are so many ppl in this world that find it absolutley amusing to harm others, especially online, because they don’t know the people in person or don’t have to see them face to face.  It comes most easily to them to hate because they don’t have to deal with the immediate life remaifications!  It’s “all in good fun” or “they need to lighten up” etc.  But really its just bulling & harassment in another form.

Don’t let them get you down! Keep supporting!

@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - shutup. I’m underweight because i have a fast motabilism and i am very healthy.You are so ignorant. 

@angelface_90@xanga - You’re an idiot. You didn’t even get what I said. Surprise, surprise – go learn to read.

@healthyisbeautiful - You think I’m a retard and dont realise theres fucking hormones and shit in my food. In my atmosphere and all that. And obviously I know alcholism is a real problem. And woopty doo dah wee people scam the system in America. Theres nothing to scam in our system. And I know where my taxes go more then yu seeing as I live in this country. And as far as the cancer rise because of the toxins in food. Ever notice overweight people eat more processed and heavily loaded with shit food. And I think you took me the wrong way. I’m not saying overweight people are bad people. Some of my family is overweight I love them all the same as well as my friends. 

I haven’t seen much progress towards health during the barbie and ken generations. The only healthy thing you can do is love somebody.

@onetwelvee@xanga - HaHa! Good for you for doing your research! I guess she doesn’t know everything like she thought…

@Cosmar@xanga - I’m just sayin… I think she does have some important health facts in there. I haven’t read all the comments you two have made at each other, but I’m confused? What’s the issue? Some things she says makes sense (don’t get too huffy because I didn’t say all). You could at least acknowledge if she is right about some things, don’t say they are wrong when they are not. And I’m not looking for an argument… I’m just confused coming into your little comment war right in the middle.

@tykazowsky@xanga - Also, if you read the post carefully, it says that “8% of of overweight and obese people think they are healthy the way they are and don’t need to lose weight.” Now, I’m no statistician and I’m feeling far too lazy to look up any numbers here to support this, but I’m guessing most of that 8% falls under the overweight category, not the obese one. Just a hunch.

Well, I enjoy being healthy and personally it bothers me to see obese people, harboring their obese children, and when people use their weight as an excuse to be slow or lazy….or say they are in pain…just lose the weight! Now if you are an adult, you don’t complain,and you are hard working, then by all means be as fat as you want. We have to many people in this world anyway, so maybe some of them will die off and make more room for the people who have a healthy mind set in life.This sounds bitchy, but I am apathetic.

@LoveYouToDeath16@xanga - 

Browse around till you find all the comments, then.
xD
If I said something was wrong, and it wasn’t, then by all means, feel free to correct me.
But, really, don’t ask me to enlighten you on information that is right at your fingertips; it’s not my fault you’re too lazy to search it out. (Don’t worry, I’m too lazy to recall what the original argument was, so I’m the pot calling the kettle black, here. ^^)
And your logic is seriously flawed.
If you read some of the comments you can tell that Healthy is on the side of good and I’m on the side of evil and yet you ask ME to explain things?
NOW IM CONFUSED

@roxybabe1623@xanga - 

This post made me giggle.

@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - ditto.

tired of body weight posts :/

@Cosmar@xanga - Oh no, I’m not asking you to EXPLAIN things Mister Know It All. I’m just sayin…. Don’t be such an ass to the poor girl if she makes some valid points.

@LoveYouToDeath16@xanga - 

MISS know it all, not MISTER
I know, I’m ugly, geez, but, honestly!
So when you said “What’s the issue?” You WEREN’T asking me to explain anything? o.0
Then I suggest you not ask the question, if you didn’t want an answer.

And that’s the point of an argument.. that two people DISAGREE, so what the heck is the point in asking me to agree with someone because YOU think they have valid points?
YOU MAKE NO SENSE!
AGAIN!

You ask me a question, then you say you DIDN’T ask the question.
And you keep telling me to stop disagreeing DURING AN ARGUMENT.
IF TWO PEOPLE AREN’T DISAGREEING THERE’S NO ARGUMENT!

HELLLLOOOO!

Okay, just so you don’t blabber at me more, you said “don’t be an ass” about it in this post, which doesn’t say that I should agree, just that I shouldn’t be rude about it, but in the original post you said I should acknowledge when she makes valid points, which is what I was reffering to.
Because if I don’t think the points are valid, why would I acknowledge that they are valid points?! (AKA agreeing with someone when I actually DON’T agree!) Q.Q

@Cosmar@xanga - Why don’t you just pick one of my two valid points, missy?

No need to get so worked up

@LoveYouToDeath16@xanga - 

o.0
Because they aren’t valid.
How can anything you say be valid, when you change it around?
If you’ve got a point to make, make it the first time, don’t get pissy at me when I get confused as to what the hell you’re trying to say.
Explain this to me!
Don’t explain this to me!
Stop disagreeing!
Stop being an ass! <- If that’s your valid point.. -snickers- That’d kinda be like standing in the middle of the train tracks, and politely asking the train to stop.
This is hardly a complicated topic. xD
To be perfectly honest, everything you have said just makes me go:

But, at least you got my gender right this time.

Progress is good.

Let’s leave it at that, shall we?

:”Fat”…is a matter of opinion!!

FIRST OFF THANKS FOR THIS POST

I completely agree that we are simply finding a means to excuse the ever growing obesity problem in the United States. While comparing oneself to a size 00 model when you’re a size 10 is unrealistic and I don’t condone it, a doctor’s diagnosis IS something I can stand behind. Obesity and having a high BMI is very unhealthy, and should be reason enough to make people strive for a healthier lifestyle. People this is the ONLY body you’ll have for the rest of your life, and this is the ONLY life you’ll live. So shouldn’t it be everyone’s goal to live a long, healthy, and prosperous life? While eating unhealthy every once is a while isn’t exactly the end of the world, making a habit of it can be detrimental to your physical, emotional/psychological, and social well-being. It’s not that hard to take a few efforts to better oneself, and the rewards of doing so are more than worth it. By accepting obesity we’re only digging a deeper hole for ourselves in the end.

VIVA LA EXERCISE & HEALTHY LIVING!

@Stanelle@xanga - FAT is a matter of a doctor’s diagnosis and a BMI count. It’s all medical fact, and opinions shouldn’t matter.

@Cosmar@xanga - I don’t have any other choice than to just “leave it at that” because you are such a dumb fuck you don’t understand the sarcasm in that statement. I can’t wait until you grow up, maybe you won’t be one of these dumbass teens trying to argue because it’s fun and because you have nothing else to do because you are too young for a job and aren’t old enough to drive without a parent.

@LoveYouToDeath16@xanga - 

You have the gall to accuse ME of being a dumb fuck when all you have done is make useless statements, accusations, and assumptions? o.0 And not even about the ARGUMENT itself, about ME!
I’m sorry if I missed your sarcasm, I’m still missing it in fact, because I have no idea where you were being sarcastic at.
And your idiotic assumptions about my age and life (I’m 19 and I don’t, and haven’t lived with my parents since I was 16, smart ass) are a lot more ridiculous than me failing to recognize your sarcasm.

I happen to have Asperger’s syndrome, you presumptuous piece of shit, so you’re pretty pathetic, if you’re calling people dumb fucks because they can’t recognize your sarcasm because they have mild AUTISM. -.- Way to go.
Look it the fuck up and stop attacking people that you don’t know shit about.

Yeah, I’m an asshole, I’ll argue with people over the internet, but I had no beef with you, YOU were the one attacking me, that argument was between me and Health, and she’s a HELL of a lot more mature than you or I. (Notice, I said “I” since you seem to like to assume I’m an arrogant teenager, I’ll admit openly I am not mature)
I am totally cool with her, and you’re being the dumb bitch that’s interfering in an argument that ended three or four days ago and that you obviously still don’t get that.

So CONGRATULATIONS.
You’re clearly SO much better than me.

Now leave me the fuck alone, I’m tired of being attacked by you, and everything besides the asshole thing you’ve said to me was FALSE!

Dammit, can’t figure out how to block on here..

I agree with this. There is a certain point when “feelings” aren’t nearly as important as someone’s health. If a person on the street says you’re fat, that’s a different story. If a doctor tells you you’re overweight, though, you’re overweight.

@Cosmar@xanga - Out of everything you said in there, only one thing bothered me:

“…stop attacking people that you don’t know shit about.”

Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black??? And admitting your faults is in no way an excuse for acting like the dumb little girl that you are.

I couldn’t agree more with this post. I take offense to some of the fat acceptance campaigns the way I would if I thought something was promoting anorexia or bulimia. Fat acceptance has not made our country healthier. It’s like you said, we need to love ourselves the way we are, but apart of loving one self is not mistreating the body. Just like starvation is abusive to one self, so is taking in too many calories day in and day out-knowingly. 

check this out for a reality check on body sizes:
http://www.mybodygallery.com

My concern isn’t the subject of your article, but why girls with Eating Disorders like yourself feel they have the audacity to pass judgment on other people’s physical health in entries like this. I mean, are you serious? YOU’RE SICK. That’s like someone suffering from delusional symptoms telling someone suffering from depression that they’re not healthy.

I’ll tell you this: It is a lot more fatal to make yourself throw up and starve yourself than to be a little bit overweight.

There are still controversies in the health community for what is the ideal weight, anyway. Obviously being at one end or the other of the spectrum is very dangerous, and we instinctively know this due to our natural repulsion to it.
I’ve heard that being slightly underweight is optimal and that even being slightly overweight is optimal, especially for women of childbearing age. Slightly overweight women are more fertile, and fertility is the core signal of a female’s health (of reproductive age). This can be seen simply in that the most attractive females are the ones that look and ARE the most fertile, which is usually also the most healthy.

When I was in college, I dropped to 110 pounds. My friends were constantly telling me how gross I looked and that I needed to eat more. On the other hand, one of those friends drank everynight, accompanied by fried foods, and shot up to 185 pounds. She insisted she was “chunkier” but not overweight. Truth was, her height and weight made her obese! Did I ever tell her she looked gross and should be more healthy. No, that would be grossly rude and inconsiderate – yet, I was the one who was actually suffering mentally with my weight and people were calling me gross. Nice.

People are compromising their health by accepting that they’re going to be large because they either 1) aren’t informed on how to be a healthy body weight or 2) they don’t want to give up the unhealthy foods they love (which is more rampant than you may thinl) and/or 3) they don’t want to spend the time and effort exercising to be healthy.

I think a lot of women that are involved in the Fat Acceptance movement do not realize what they are doing. Many MANY MANY of them think that it’s OKAY to just continue bad habits and binging and never exercising. Because it’s OKAY to be fat! But thats not the case. Though, there are women that are big, gorgeous, exercise and eat a healthy diet – but are still bigger. That’s fine. I am one of those women. I eat healthier than most thinner people I know and I exercise daily. I am trying to lose weight of course, for ME, but all around I am quite healthy. These are the women I accept as fat people. Women like me that still care about their health – but just cannot be bothered to weigh 100 pounds. 

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