Do you consider yourself a feminist? Why or why not? How would you define “feminist”?
no i dont i think that we should be treated just like men. i think that we should be able to work at construction sites without getting cat calls. i think that feminist dont realize that in order to have more females we need males because for sex so yea
yikes. feminists, most of the time, are just women who hate men for one reason or another. i’m down with feminism, i say everyone should have equal rights. but when it’s just women out to yell at men without any logic or reason, then it’s a problem. :-/
Feminism isn’t about getting rid of men… it’s about equal opportunities for both sexes, and people who see feminists as simply man-haters should probably do some more research. I’m reading anything i can get my hands on about woman’s position in society, to educate myself about woman’s history and consequently her present and future.
If you’re not a feminist you are a fucking idiot.
@dork936@xanga - @rebekah9111@xanga -
Is it that fucking hard to pick up a dictionary?
FeminismA social theory or political movement supporting the equality of bothgenders in all aspects of public and private life; specifically, atheory or movement that argues that legal and social restrictions onfemales must be removed in order to bring about such equality.
By definition, no. I’m a girl, I want to be treated special. I want guys to open the door for me, and buy me dinner. Of course I want equal pay and such, but I think feminists tend to take it to the extreme.
Yes, I do consider myself a feminist. Feminism means that a woman has the right to make whatever choices she feels she needs to make in her life to be healthy and happy without judgment. It means that women should have the same treatment as men. I agree with hammersandstrings, people who think feminism is exactly like the stereotype potrayed in the media should probably do some more research.
I hate that “feminist” has become such a loaded term. I’m always amazed at how many women (and men, for that matter) will say, “I’m not a feminist, but I think [insert "feminist" belief here.]” So, while I hate all the baggage that comes with “feminist,” I still have to admit that I’m much more a feminist than a non-feminist.
daffodil / 1601 posts
Who isn’t for equal rights?
I mean…obviously the are people who aren’t otherwise it wouldn’t be a problem.
dahlia / 2747 posts
this post is REALLY asking for controversy; and it’s definitely not going to be lovely.
daisy / 693 posts
and a feminist does not hate mena feminist is someone who believes that women have just as much power as men, that we’re EQUALSwtf is all this hatred towards feminists now-a-daysfeminists are strong, independent women who can stand on their own without the help of a man. Doesn’t mean they hate men or are anti men
sunflower / 291 posts
@XoAsianBabioX@xanga - haha my thoughts exactly
I’m all for equal rights.
sunflower / 284 posts
I do consider myself a feminist. It’s about equal opportunity and equal rights, not about man-bashing or claiming that women and men are identical.
Who here who has stated that they aren’t a feminist has ever taken a women’s studies class? a peace and social justice class? is out of high school? Probably 0. I’m definitely a feminist, and I’m not militant, and I’m not hairy, and I’m not yelling at men. I think I should get equal pay, and shouldn’t have to do a second job when I come home. I think that you make it too easy when you say “it’s just women who hate men” because actually it’s really not. You live in a society that treats women like objects, and you are opposed to changing it. Go you.
Of course I’m a feminist, because I believe in equal rights between the sexes.
@kiwifruitbowl@xanga - I took a Psychology of Women class last year and sometime in the beginning of the semester our professor asked us to raise our hands if we considered ourselves a feminist. In a class of thirty I was raising my hand along with probably only 4 other individuals. She then went on to explain the proper definition of a feminist and that anyone who wants equality between the sexes is a feminist. “Feminist” is like such a misunderstood word, but honestly, how many of those who say that feminists “take it too far” or “hate men” have ever even come across someone who is for women superiority rather than equal rights? I’m going to guess very few.
by what terms do you mean “feminist”? Some fems are very hardcore,and have the “anything you can do I can do better” attitude. I want everyone to have equal liberties;we are all the same. HOWEVER,there are some things that men just do better because of the strength factor. YES! Rights for all women…no for thinking that we are any better than a man,though. I am strong ,independent,and live my life by my own rules.AND I look to my s/o for support as well.
daffodil / 1540 posts
@TheRiverIsEverywhere@xanga - i’ve never met a feminist who straight up said “i want to be superior to a man,” but i’ve met plenty who make it quite clear that they do.
i choose not to identify with the feminist movement; back in the ’60s and ’70s, when women were being treated like property in the united states, i would have been all for it, but feminists today, at least the loud ones, are crass, complain way too much, and have ass backwards priorities. that’s not for me. so no, i’m not a feminist.
sunflower / 295 posts
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - agreed
Duh. Why would i not be a feminist?Equal rights. FOR ALL
magnolia / 1201 posts
Yes I would say I’m a feminist although a lot of people have misguided definitions of that word. Some say that feminists believe we shouldn’t shave our armpits, but I do so I’m not a feminist. Maybe that used to be an older ideal, so maybe I’m more of a “modern” feminist. I shave my armpits because I want to and prefer no hair there! Not because society tells me to. I’m not a man hater, I think there can be a place for all of us in this world. I just think it is ridiculous in 2009 (soon to be 2010) that women are still making less then men.
I believe in empowering woman- and that makes me a feminist. I am not saying you should deny any roles you choose as a female(whether it is susie homemaker or cowgirl or CEO) I am saying you should get the oppertunity to have equal chance at them, equal pay (women still get paid less then a man in the same position) equal oppertunity. Go live in a prodominately patriarchal society for awhile as a woman and you will see that there woman are forced because of social mores and norms into roles that they don’t always want. I just want to see a world where woman can choose who they are and how they want to express themself with out fear
a feminist is SIMPLY someone who believes that women should have equal rights to men. like having the ability to vote, drive, whatever. i am DEFINITELY a feminist, but whenever people speak of feminism, they tend to give it a negative connotation. what is negative about equality? nothing. people are uneducated and have come to believe that feminism is some sort of belief that women should be THE dominant sex and should be treated specially etc. that’s not the case.
yes I am. because I believe that women should have the right to live their life the way they want. That is my definition of feminism.
rose / 960 posts
too much stigma. too much laziness and passiveness on my part. don’t feel like labeling self.
The only aspect of the feminist movement that I agree with is equal pay for equal work. This other stuff like abortion on demand, wanting to fight on the front lines during a battle–I don’t subscribe to that at all. I just believe that there are some areas of life that women should steer clear of.
magnolia / 1017 posts
Yeah I guess I am, but not an extreme one. I’m all for being able to vote and equal pay. But we already kinda have that, so I guess I just hope that doesn’t go out of fashion. If America turned fascist I wouldn’t like it.
of course i can read a dictionary, there’s no need to get angry. i originally had said that i’m down for equal rights, aka the goal of feminism, but i think that modern feminists are a twisted interpretation of what feminists originally set out to be. it’s just a “lets hate men” club now.there’s not need to be crass about it, in any case.
I think the women of the Suffrage movement and the feminists of the ’60s had the right idea. But in general, I don’t like feminists, don’t consider myself one, and am absolutely against radical feminism.
Absolutely. And surprise, I don’t hate men, I shave my legs, and I’m not a lesbian.
Like someone said above, if you’re not a feminist then either you don’t believe in equal rights for everyone, or you’re uneducated and think feminism means man-hating. WHICH IT DOESN’T. Please educate yourself! Feminism has nothing to do with men holding doors open for you. And don’t forget that it includes fighting for rights for both sexes, not just women. For me feminism means having choices and being free to make those choices in whatever you want to do with your life. Whether that be a stay-at-home mom or a CEO.
@snapeful@xanga - we don’t really have equal pay, though.
@Coke0@xanga – yeah thats why i said kinda
sunflower / 451 posts
I am a feminist, meaning that I think everyone should have equal rights regardless of gender, and that a person’s role in life should not be dictated by what kind of privates they have. I think I would prefer “equalist” though…
But, contrary to what some people believe, I do not hate men. I love my father and brother, and I have had several close male friends throughout my life. I don’t really want to date any men right now, but that doesn’t mean I hate them, I just would prefer to relate to the men in my life in a more platonic way.
daisy / 613 posts
I don’t wish to be treated like a man. I only wish to be given the same opportunities.
Having a baby should not cause me to lose my job. Women and men both should be involved in child rearing. I shouldn’t have to choose between having a family and having a career any more than a man.
Yes, I do consider myself a feminist, not a feminazi, but an actual feminist. I believe in equal rights for women, not that women should be higher than men, just that every gender should be treated equally, including transgendered.
i’m a feminist.
@dork936@xanga - uh yeah. it isnt a “lets hate men” club. its a “i’m human. give me my rights!” club.
rose / 807 posts
Equal rights BUT if I want to be a stay at home mom, raise children, cook dinners and clean for the rest of my life NO ONE should tell me that I am WASTING my life and GIVING IN to male roles in society.
Let me live my life.
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - (:
I’m all for equal opportunity. I think women should be treated the same way as men. So I guess in that sense, I am a feminist. But, I’ve been hurt so many times, I guess that’s just a natural reaction. I think guys would be lost without us. I mean, girls can walk, talk, AND chew bubble gum at the same time. That clearly proves we’re the superior sex. LOL
@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - With you on that one!
No labeling people i say lol
All Feminism is is the belief that both sexes are equal. I firmly believe that. I don’t hate men, and just because I consider myself a Feminist doesn’t mean I don’t like men to pull my chair out for me and open doors for me. I consider that polite, and I’m polite to men in return. So, it is equal.
@Eyes_Herself@xanga - Exactly. A true Feminist would respect your decision and realize that because you’re equal to men you get to make those decisions.
When I first went to college, I was under the misguided perception that feminists were angry, militant, man-hating, bra-burning people. Four years at a women’s college, where I learned what feminism really was, completely changed the way I view feminism, both as a movement and as a less politically engaged, more magisterial term.
A year and a half out of college, I embrace feminism, and find myself actively resisting anti-feminism of any kind. So, yes, I am a proud, ardent feminist.
@soyeahthatswhathappened@xanga - I suppose we have had different experiences in that respect then because I couldn’t think of a single female who thinks that way.
@dork936@xanga - I think you have the wrong idea of feminism. Look at all the people here identifying themselves as feminists and none of them are man bashing. like someone already said, its an “equal rights club”, and that includes equal rights for YOU as well!
Hell yes. I am a feminist because I refuse to let my gender or sex predetermine my worth and success.
It makes me sad when people think feminists are just about a bunch a men haters who don’t shave their legs. I love men, and I definitely shave my legs. Being a feminist is about being able to define yourself the way you want. As a feminist, I demand respect. I think most people are feminists, but they don’t realize it yet.
Oh, and I occasionally participate in bra burning.
(Yeah right. Do you know how hard it is to find a good bra?)
equal rights for every one!
orchid / 215 posts
In the context of fighting for equal rights. Yes. Otherwise I want to be treated like a lady. Dont call me a chick and dont tell me Im supposed to do something cause Im a girl ‘casue I will throw back at you that you should be opening doors and saving me from spiders because youre a boy. You dont play youre gender role then dont expect me to.
I am a feminist.
Yes but not one of those shouty ones, and i love men, if they is treating me right then i is a happy bunny, and let me tell ya, i have a lot of male friends and i enjoy their company more than women. And when a man shows any sign of not treating me as i would treat him then he’s gone, zap.
tulip / 8 posts
HISTORY OF FEMINISM
Please see the Feminism entry in Wikipedia for a description of feminist history.
1. First-wave feminism began in the mid-1800s with an agenda focused on winning women’s right to vote and gaining access to birth control.
2. Second-wave feminism describes the period between 1960-1980 to address women’s cultural and political inequalities and to fight sexist power structures. This feminist advocacy often was referred to as the “Women’s Liberation Movement.”
3. Third-wave feminism began in the 1990s, primary to address the criticism that there was an over-emphasis on the experiences of upper middle-class white women which failed to recognize or include the needs of minority women.
4. Post-feminism describes a variety of viewpoints in reaction to feminism. Although the term may give the impression that equality has been achieved and that feminists can now focus on something else entirely, this generally is not the intent. Post-feminists criticize many of the gynocentric and misandrist ideas of second-wave feminism, labeling them as “Gender Feminism.” Instead, post-feminists advocate “Equity Feminism.” While Gender Feminists advocate preferential treatment and portray women as victims, Equity Feminism aims for full civil and legal equality for women.
True progress in woman’s equality will not be achieved until popular perceptions or attitudes about women are changed. Please see my post: GENDER EQUALITY IN THE POST-FEMINIST ERA at http://www.tiny.cc/gendereq
orchid / 107 posts
Feminists should call themselves egalitarians or something if they’re really just concerned with equal rights and respect. “Feminist” has too much of a pro-woman anti-man connotation.
I’m all for equality baby!! I believe in the right for women (amongst other minorities..) to have equal opportunities as men; the empowerment of women and the shift in the social norms of a patriachal society!
“I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat, or a prostitute.” –Rebecca West.
I am a feminist. I believe in equal rights for both sexes. I’m a women’s studies minor and I’ve learned so much about feminism…I shave, I’m straight with a loving boyfriend, and I wear bras. I hate the stigma that the “f-word” has nowadays, but I will always call myself a feminist.
@ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - It think that is the problem, we CANNOT and NEVER support the equality of both genders in ALL aspects of public and private life if by definition we are so different. We cannot ask a men to give birth something, that will make us equal to them. We have vaginas they have pennis. We can instead embrace our differences and be proud of who we are and the role we have. By that being said, i’m not a women who support discrimination or who feel less than a man…We are so much better
@nuevo_despertar@xanga - equal RIGHTS. Trying to create a vag for a man doesn’t involve equal rights.
“Is it that fucking hard to pick up a dictionary?
FeminismA social theory or political movement supporting the equality of bothgenders in all aspects of public and private life; specifically, atheory or movement that argues that legal and social restrictions onfemales must be removed in order to bring about such equality.”
Now, equal rights? then I agree. Although…I still believe there are differences.
daisy / 556 posts
Hm. I try not to label myself too much. But, I define feminist as someone who is trying to make sure that women have equality. Equal treatment no matter where they are or what they are doing. As compared to men.
Some feminists, in my opinion, go a little overboard and some of the things they suggest don’t seem equal at all, but rather as if they would like women to be elevated above men. That is not equal, in my opinion. But, that’s my opinion. :p
And I also think it isn’t helping the cause at all to judge or look down on women who would rather have more “traditional” roles in the home/family, so long as those choices are made by that woman and she knows it is a choice and not an obligation. But, some feminists would disagree, because a lot of feminists do see women who make choices like that as setting the feminist movement and the progress women have made backward rather than forward. I can see where they are coming from, I just disagree. :p Since equality is also about the right to choose.
However, I don’t consider myself a feminist. I do have feminist ideals, however I am not an activist and I consider feminism in this sense to be a cause and a form of activism. :p Which is not bad at all, I just am not an activist for anything at the moment.
i believe in equality
Do your thing. Wear those dresspants. It’s all good.
I’m just fed up with movements in general..I swear so many of you people have nothing better to do.
And the definition is great, I know. We all know that.
But a dictionary has NOTHING to do with how feminists act. They’re pretty damn arrogant, regardless of “the definition”. Pull your face out of your books and classes for 5 minutes, and don’t be so naive.
I am a feminist. I think it’s important for women to have the same opportunities, like equal pay in the workplace. Women’s rights abroad right now are in such deplorable shape.
@so_bright527@xanga - your post offends me, because I think that people don’t just join movements because they are bored which is what you imply.People join movements because they are unsatisfied with the status quo. Do you think everything is just fine? Do you follow current events? I think expressing an opinion is not lame.
yes. i’m not female but i believe male/female/other should all have equal opportunities and protection. Whether they choose to accept them is another thing, but it should be there.
i’m a feminist and you should be too. feminism is the radical idea that females are not inferior to men.
@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - you came pre-labelled when you were born with female parts. feminism isnt the same thing as activism. it’s just the way you view your gender.
@Spruce - equality, TO THE EXTREME? no such thing.
equality is equality. you’re not entitled to being treated like a princess just because you’re female. that just makes you a brat. it’s common courtesy to open doors for other people, not just boys for girls. you should consider boys’ emotions and insecurities and boys shouldnt walk on eggshells for fear of shattering a “fragile girl”. this kind behaviour only perpetuates restricting gender roles. treat people like people, not what’s between their legs.
doesnt mean you hate men, or are a lesbian, or wear doc martens, or go to rallys, or get into bar brawls, or listen to a certain type of music.
@so_bright527@xanga - if it wasnt for feminism, you wouldnt be able to vote, or serve in the armed forces, or have equal pay. if it wasnt for today’s feminists, men would make all the decisions. women would be in the house all day cooking and cleaning “where they belong”. If you’re okay with not furthering yourself socially or economically…that’s completely fine. you’re allowed to be a passive, docile female. but it sounds like you have some kind of personality (although rather arrogant), so i’d guess you wouldnt be okay with that.
any female with healthy self-respect is a feminist. i’m sick of this taboo associated with the “f-word”. the contempt associated with the word is disgusting. these scornful smear-tactics set female equality back.
A feminist would be a woman who fights when there is injustice towards women. They want equal rights and don’t want to be discriminated against. I find it shocking that some men will pay women lower wages and men will get higher wages at doing the same job and at the same company.
I don’t support Feminism. I support Equalism. You can go on and on about how “Feminism” works to create equality between the two sexes, but the very definition claims that the only path is through helping women. Not so. By doing that, you’re segregating the problems between the two sexes, and only focusing on the female’s problems. Men are suffering too, just not to the same extreme as women.
Being an Equalist is being able to view BOTH sides of the gender war, and demanding equality between the two by solving the problems of both. At once. Simply solving the problems of women won’t bring about equality. It just won’t. Simply because: Women aren’t the only ones being persecuted.
rose / 781 posts
Yes, I am a feminist.
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