Lovelyish

eh, i think it’s kind of a teenage/early adulthood thing…i’m sure there is a more grown-up way to keep that edge.

I think it’s really ugly.. bleghh. :/

20..okay, 40? eh. Grow up.

That second picture is pretty damn hot.

But, really, people need to grow up.  That’s so… middle school.

i don’t really mind it. if they wanna dress that way then go ahead.
though it does start looking pretty stupid once you’re out of your twenties.

cool if done in moderation.

i find it odd, not matter what age.

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - @walkintotheseaaa@xanga - I still dress that way but it’s more of the gothic lolita look. Goth is not whatmost peoplethink of with the low quality ‘edgy’ clothes that border on more of everyday halloween/punk. I am 22 years old and i still find the look flattering. However unlike most middle school children I do know when it is appropriate and when it is not. For example I recently did a graphic design internship with Anheuser Busch and I didn’t wear those types of clothes there.Aside from that do we really need to be so judgemental? Idon’t find the pop princess look flattering and yet I’m not mean about it. Why don’t we just take the ‘to each his own approach’. I mean is it really hurting you for adults to express themselves in this manner?

scary. like.. that’s extreme at any age…

its simply a style and depending upon who you are or what your doing such as a model or musician or something along those lines or someone who has made a self sustaining lifestyle out of it is free to do as they please we all have the desire to express ourselves.  If its what your passionate about then i say by all means for anyone who knows what it actually is or means in this day and age to be gothic.  I will have more respect for the person who holds true to who they are while doing something with their life than anyone who has ever settled or sold out to become just another miserable 9-5 working pawn.

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - What?

People of 40, and OLDER, came up with EVERY style you take for granted, and NOTHING new has come along in 20 years, and CAN’T.

You, who rips off everything, even if you don’t know it, FAIL to have the right to say when anyone else should or shouldn’t stop dressing any way. And this goes way, WAY, beyond Goth, which itself was already pretty dull in 1981.

does it really matter what people want to wear at whatever age? i say, mind your own business and keep your judgment to yourself. you’re only responsible for dressing yourself and no one else [unless you have children, or a poorly dressed significant other, in which case...]

ohh man, i feel an angry rebuttal post coming on…

Meh, speaking as someone who used to do the whole goth thing awhile back, it looses it’s edge.  I think you can still acheive a classy look and get that goth edge in by buying steampunk or goth inspired pieces, or hell, making them.

True goth looks very nice and elegant, the shit that’s in the top picture are the people that made it go out of style and into the extreme in the first place.  I loves me some Victorian, Renaissance, Medival inspired clothing and hair, but very little of what is worn today could ever be considered that.

Sometimes scary depending on how far your take the look. I’m usually about wear what you want and express yourself but at 50…that just makes me think, grow up.

I’d rather talk of all this on a wider scale, because there never really was anything called Goth. Goth was generally limited and boring even in the early 80′s, and those labelled as Goths back then, such as Robert Smith and Siouxsie Sioux vehemently denied such an association…and any deliberate Goths later on were usually fairly dopey and more constrained than any “normal” people.

What’s the point is there hase been NO generational or stylistic shift in over 20 years, and there CAN’T be. There’s a lot of awesome looking ‘younger’ people getting around now, but most are as dumb as dishwater with NO idea that EVERYTHING they are doing, wearing, and listening to goes back at least 25 years. Post-Punk, Hip Hop, Industrial, New Wave, Goth, New Romantic, Hardcore and on and on, back through Punk and often to even earlier.

And anyone who did those styles, any of us, who did it for real, when it counted, can keep on doing it as long as they like !

What may be called ‘Goth’, and any related notions, actually harks back to lot’s of much older styles and eras…and as one gets older that can translate into some brilliant, stylish, and very classy clothes and looks.

to each thier own. people can dress the way they want to dress and I love seeing people in thier 40s still dressing Goth.  Like it has already been said, they are the ones that started the trend.

Personally, I like to just incorporate some of the looks into my wadrobe.

beautiful? unique? true to themselves? charming? adorable? a good thing?

that’s what i think

Those poor people that you are judging probably invented the “goth” look. They got made fun of for it in school…and now that its “cool” for teens to be goth, you guys want to make fun of them in their old age…sure, go right ahead.

Gothic style should really have no age limitations. It’s not like, say punk, which is all about angst and rebellion and what-not. However, the mass marketed world has made “goth” a teen trend, a phase that some go through.

I think it’s ridiculous to judge people based on how old they are and if they are “goth.” It really shouldn’t be about age. Now, emo and scene girls in their late 20′s and up….they deserve no respect.

(By the way, Dita Vone Teese-in the second picture I believe- isn’t goth exactly. She’s more of a vintage Holywood glamor)

well it’s definitely not normal but people should do whatever they feel like. i prefer this look over trampy half-naked housewives anyway. but the world would be pretty bland if there weren’t some eccentric people spicing it up every now and again.

I think it’s great. I think it’s adorable. I love it.
I approve. lol

I think I’d have a little more faith in people who dress goth in their thirties or forties.
At that age, it pretty much guarantees that they’re not mindlessly following some silly trend.

I think it’s wrong at any age… It scares me…

Eccentric, perhaps.

Eccentric…

as with most things, it depends on whether or not they do it with style

Eh, do whatever makes you happy. Just don’t over do it, I guess? Going all out with it does seem like more of a thing you can pull off when you’re younger. When you’re older, people expect you to be mature and act how a typical old person in their mind would act, and that means, basically, “normal”. That’s why you’d get a lot of weird looks when you’re an older goth and out in public. But like I said, do whatever makes you happy.

Its a lifestyle, like any other. No judgement necessary. It can look very flattering in some cases.

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Haha, as dumb as dishwater.

I think if that’s how they want to dress, let them. Just like if a 25 year-old wants to wear a mini skirt from the juniors section two sizes too small, no one’s gonna change her (or his) mind about wearing it. LOL even if they did, someone would say they were being an asshole. But really.. what the hell are you doing walking around Target at 4pm on a Tuesday dressed like that? Hopefully buying a new skirt that covers your ass.

Oops, got off point. But ya, whatever floats their boat. =]

I think it’s alright if thats who they are it’s not like your going to put away you jeans and transistion into granny pants or are you just going to change into what society says is acceptable for someone your age?

I don’t mind it, especially since my Dad dresses like it…not full out goth like the pictures up there but…he has long hair, tattoos, and kinda looks like he should be in a 80′s heavy metal music video. He’s definitely one of a kind, and people gravitate toward him. I think more people should be less afraid to express who they are, no matter what age.

@S_K_O_T@xanga -  Chill out dude. Taking it way too seriously.

@sick_of_dreams@xanga -  Expressing yourself in clothes, music, etc. is never wrong.  But to dress full-on “goth”, or whatever, at 40+? I’m sure I’ll end up keeping my style of dressing when I’m older, but I’d modify it to fit more closely to my age. 

creeepy.

If you “WERE Goth”, then you were NEVER Goth.

Loving Goth music isn’t likely to be just a phase, deary.

It’s timeless.

But you don’t have to dress Goth to be Goth… so whether a Goth chooses to wear the fashion later on in life or not is a matter of personal preference nothing more. And people should dress the way they like.

For all those who say it’s ugly, I’m sure they find your clothes ugly.

let people dress and act however the hell they want.
who are we to judge?

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - What’s wrong with dressing full on Goth after 40? I don’t see a single thing wrong with it unless you wore it to your job, but who actually dresses like they’re going to work when they’re not?

And Goths can keep their style of dressing when they’re older but modify it to fit their age too.

@SapphireDragonEyes88@xanga - You’re right, there’s nothing wrong with it. It just seems a little extreme to me.

I think it looks ridiculous a lot of the time and people who are past their teens/early 20′s it just appears really immature. :/

Wear whatever you want to wear If someone wants to judge you on what you wear, they can screw themselves

My uncle is 38 and he’s goth. I wouldn’t want him any other way. Not only is he the most understanding and caring person in my family, he’s always himself and never judges me for what i do/say/etc. He has a great job, an awesome girlfriend, a dog named Lucian, and a great social life. I want to be as cool as him when I am his age!! >.<

Here is the fact:  If you are dressing the same as you did when you are
40 as you did when you were 15, you FAIL.  In ANY manner of dress.

This is the misconception:  That Goth is a style.  It’s not a style, it’s the way a person is.  It develops and matures, as people do.

When you’re 16, you’re young.  You wear the young styles.  You wear the things that scream “look at me, I’m unique, you f*cking sheeple.”  Black leather, dark makeup, buckles, metal, etc.  Ridiculous. 

When you grow, you don’t wear this anymore.  It becomes hand-crafted, tailored Brioni suits.  Konstanino cufflinks and accessories.  Yves St. Laurent here, Hermes there, Anderson & Sheppard, red silk linings beneath bespoke custom fitted jackets and vests, John Lobb and the workmanship of ages.  Panerai, Breitling, Cartier, Creed Tabarome, blah blah f*cking blah.

Goth is just a trendy word for people of this age to love and sh*t on.

True Goth is the Timeless Soul.

Here is the fact:  If you are dressing the same as you did when you are 40 as you did when you were 15, you FAIL.  In ANY manner of dress.

There is a reason why classics are classics.  Why this house or that house has been tailoring for gentlemen since 1638.  Or why the craftsmen who create my knives has been doing so since 1182, when instead of making kitchen knives, they made No-Dachi for war.  Because fashions trends come and go.  But what remains is the Timeless.  To understand what is Goth, look not to silly black leather and shiny metal.  Look instead to what is Timeless and Beautiful and Eternal.

THIS is what people do not understand.  Goth is not a style.  Goth is not Within Temptation or Evanescence or even Paramore or that Twilight BS.  Sparkly skinned vampires, psh.  The true is W.A Mozart and K.626 Requiem Dies Irae and Lux Aeterna and Kyrie Eleison; and Verdi Tuba Mirum. The true is not skinny people withering away at a faint attempt at physical beauty; it is strength, power and sensuality, brutality and love and pain and all the things that make us who we are.

If there is any one fictional character that ever had it right:  Armand.

Keep it Totalitarian, but Classy.

@chow@ireallylikefood - Wonderfuly said. It goes exactly with what I was trying to convey about cheap everyday halloween vs. quality handmade lolita garments. and shock everyone at walmart vs. living the lifestyle.

I’m sort of saddened at society’s implication that just because a style of dress is not mainstream it is childish and immature to dress that way. (No, I’m not goth.)

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - the true full-on-goth is actually very classy. And I think you would be surprised at it. Some of the female lolita fashions look a lot like coco channel originals. They are timeless and sophisticated. I actually see more 30+ people wearing it because of the price and class. Most young people that think they are goth are just looking to be shocking and aren’t truly living the lifestyle.

Sometimes is scary if you see a man in his 50′s still dressing goth, but whatever.. it’s not like they are hurting anyone.

You folks seem to be confusing goth with “emo” and ” wannabe goth ” that takes place in middle school and high school. Gothic culture is MUCH more than what others seem to THINK it is. I think being gothic can be quite tasteful and eccentric no matter what age you are. 

Is it okay to wear the plastic barbie doll skank look past your 20′s?

And since we’re all opinioning here, why does it matter what other people choose to wear regardless of their age?  If you pay the slightest attention, you’ll see that people tend to wear whatever they wore in their early 20′s their whole lives.  Do you think all the sweet old grannies in their floral dresses and cardigans just suddenly started wearing that when they got older?  They were wearing that same stuff in their 20′s, that’s why they’re still wearing it!  Judging people’s clothing style choices is so for 12′s.  Get over it and grow up!  I’d rather be a bad 80′s goth (which I’m not) than tell people what to wear….

@sick_of_dreams@xanga -  Classy and sophisticated is good. The majority of adults that I have
seen dressed “full-on” have never been near classy, which is why I
thought it to be extreme. 

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - That is true. Most people just know of the commercialized ‘goth’. Unfortunatly….

I’m not gonna lie…it looks sort of strange, but, still…I think everyone deserves their right to express themselves.

Eh, to each their own.

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - Chill out?…another turn of phrase you take without knowingg where it came from, nor caring, it seems.

I take things seriously, because things are serious.

It might suprise you to know, nonchalantly comfortable as part of a ‘generation’ who for the most part take absolutely nothing seriously but your own selfish satisfaction, that people once did things seriously!

That things once had meaning and purpose and heart and spirit…and I’m talking about a whole greater gammut than Goth here, which was the most boring, least inspired cult/movement/style/trend ever.

All the things that have since been made into…’whatever’, into simply, ‘what you do’…were once VERY serious. Things and people were FOR REAL.

No, I won’t chill out, and I’ll get more serious!

@sick_of_dreams@xanga - Maybe you should put the word out there

@Athlyx@xanga - Hello again, and I do like you, I like running into you across Xanga…but, as with even more pressing issues, the notion of ‘whatever floats boats’ can lead to LOTS of trouble!

I hate to be using this post as a springboard for this because I hated ‘Goth’, it was always a dead end for mindless, uninspired twits, THE worst offshoot after Punk…but the key point is that, good and bad, ALL style making the rounds now is TOTALLY taken/ripped off from the early 80′s.

And here’s another point…how come no ‘Goths’ ever dressed, or dress, as actual Goths?

I got a fright from that first picture.

@S_K_O_T@xanga - I’m not my generation, for one thing. And another, I don’t do online arguments, it’s childish. But thanks for being so interested.

@zxzeebrastar@xanga - On one hand, there is no generation as such now, but, paradoxically, there is, and you’re showing all sings of it. What argument?…you said some stuff, which I soundly countered, to which you told me to “chill out”…and you’re talking about childish? And that picture of you is not childish?…hey, people need to get back more of a child-like spirit!

There’s not an argument going on here, that would imply you’ve got a valid point to ‘argue’, and you don’t.

Oh, and I’m ALWAYS interested, in MANY things !

@chow@ireallylikefood - I like that, and always have, Classy Totalitarian!

A point though…the way/s I was dressing at 15 in the mid-80′s have become the mainstream ‘fashions’ of now (and that freaks me out) and I’ve always done variants of them, and I still dress that way now, and I turn 40 this month !

I did it, for real, and here I did it BY MYSELF, so I’ll decide if and when I stop doing it.

Having said that, I DO also believe that there is ways you can, and often should, dress as you get older, it just suits more, and you don’t want you to turn your classic style into a caricature, which I haven’t yet, but I do also do a great line in Classy Totalitarianism!

if done correctly it could be really cool 

I have a couple friends in their 20′s who still dress like that and I’m still convinced it’s a phase. I’m not sure how they plan on ever getting serious jobs dressed with spikes around their necks. I guess it’s just one of those things I don’t really understand and probably wouldn’t be able to since I haven’t experienced it. 

for photoshoot, events it’s perfectly fine. dressing goth as an everyday where is a no no definitely 

True goth can be done well at any age.
What most people think of as “goth” is teenagers who don’t really even understand goth. They are basically just trying to be scary. Wearing all or mostly black, looking like Marilyn Manson is not Goth. It isn’t about being scary or listening to scary music.
I have a very good frriend that is truly goth and see gets shit all the time for “don’t doing right”

its creepy for anyone 40+

i liked to dress goth… in 7th grade. leave it in junior high. grow up. 

I think it’s fine. You wouldn’t want someone looking at what you and say that it’s not okay to wear what you want to wear, right? People shouldn’t say things about others that they don’t want to hear about themselves.

dont like ><

@SporkTheEmu13q@xanga - What you went through was puberty, not Goth.

Hum… I made this post without judgement on the goth community since i’m adult and part of it.

I can experience everyday french people’s reactions, that are not so
bad, but not really “friendly”. I’m not so “hard” though. I know that
at the office, I dpon’t have to wear my nose ring, because my collegues
are chocked. So, I put it off and that’s ok. I’m like that, I can’t change . Even in mini skirt, stylletos and white shirt, I’ll stay myself…Myself is something that no one can change, even by dressing myself another way.

Concerning people who said “gothic is not a true thing because bacl 80S
blabla” and so on …well. It’s nice, you have read something or
experienced it some years ago, but it don’t mean that those of 80s wear
“better” than those of today (I know some of them, around 40, gothic and
they don’t say that it was better in their yound adultshood… Concerning classical music, well it’s true it’s nice. I did ballet so had to liseten to that, I made music at a music school so, thesame. But Victorian people are gothic, or ..just victorian so fitted their time ? And I really can’t
understand how someone can tell another person a “true” goth (or a true
something else). On what scale ? It’s often the case on post about gothic lifestyle. People are trying to put people into “boxes” .

Thanks you all for all your answers !

Ehhh I don’t care. Some goth clothes are absolutely stunning, and I think people can express themselves through fashion at any age.

@SapphireDragonEyes88@xanga - I agree, and think the same (for both your messages)

I don’t care for it, but I think they should get new clothes >>; .

It’s fine. I mean, adults have a right to dress on how they and/or their music taste too.

I think goth styles are better suited for older people; it’s the punk fashion stuff that one should grow out of by the age of 30.

I love it. I’m 19 and I dress that way, I plan to dress that way for as long as I live. Its who I am. Its a lifestyle. Kinda like preps dress preppy all their lives…why cant us “goths” dress “gothic”?

The Gothic lifestyle is just that. A lifestyle. It really is not something that just teenagers do. It isn’t supposed to be. :p Although, there are a lot of teenagers that get into it because they think it’s cool, find out what it’s really about and like it, but then “grow out of it”

There are just as many that don’t, however. And I see nothing wrong with that. Just because they dress Goth and live the lifestyle doesn’t mean that they are bad people or bad influences, and as long as they aren’t dangerous people I don’t see any reason to judge them.

i just think it’s strange.
it’s okay to have a “phase” – everyone has a phase, at least most people i know, go through that experimental phase of who they are.
but i bet these people complain about not being taken seriously,
well this is their answer.

@S_K_O_T@xanga - I totally agree. We copy the styles but dont completely understand where they orginated(sorry if that spelled wrong). The styles just repeat over and over. Music is the same way. Todays music isnt orginal anymore, you’ll find bands doing covers or remixes of songs from 30 years ago! But todays youth think they know everything (myself included though im learning i dont)

@faded_memorii@xanga - I like you lol. You have a good outlook on it. 

People who can’t grow up

Eccentric, but it makes me wonder what went so terribly wrong in their lives that they feel they need to dress that way for so many decades.

@NightChild27@xanga - I do? Lol, thanks

So, New question, what is the look of an “adult” ?

Fashion freak ? Nice secretary with stylettos ? Jogging ?

@faded_memorii@xanga - thanks ^^

@Begierde - You’re welcome

@Begierde - There is no look for an adult. An adult is an adult no matter what they wear or do not wear. :p Fashion is dictated by the times and norms of society at the time. And is always changing.

Lol about the stilettos, though. I’d break my neck if I tried to walk in stilettos! Practice makes perfect, but not if I break my ankle! :p

@faded_memorii@xanga - I ask myself this question regarded to the comment of my article. It seems like an adult has to be hidden under acommon suit to be considered as an adult.

In fact, as a goth, I worked as bank clerc… I ask myself about the face people would have make by learning I was working for their money !

I love high heels by the way ^^

I think you can still dress alternatively as an adult… but you have to tone it down. You don’t want to get negative attention for the way you dress in a professional atmosphere. And by the time you are an adult, you should have a well-developed sense of identity and fully-formed opinions. In other words, you should have better ways of defining yourself as unique than an over-the-top sense of style.

This is just my opinion though. People can dress however the hell they want, you know?

While I agree that people should be able to wear whatever they please, I also believe that at a certain point in life, the average person needs to start dressing professionally for the workplace, leaving their fashion statements for after work or the weekends.  I know there are cases where ‘extreme’ clothing is suitable in an adult worker, but honestly the vast majority of jobs would not tolerate that type of clothing.  So I do agree that when it comes to professionalism, goth adults should consider purchasing some alternative clothing.

@Begierde - A lot of my friends like high heels, I’m the only one that seems to fail in them. :p

They might be very shocked to find out that you work with their money every day! For some reason, the Gothic lifestyle seems to be something most people associate with emo teenagers. When people find out that someone they’ve liked at work for so long is actually goth and isn’t even a teenager, they kind of back away like they think you have some horribly contagious disease. o.O;;

I’m not Goth myself, but I have friends who are.

@chelseanataliex@xanga - @walkintotheseaaa@xanga - Both of you should step out of your comfort zone and try it once before you open your big fat mouths and diss the people who have the nerves of steel to dress that way.

@forever_4_real@xanga - Just like your conformity scares me! *shudders*

I love when people have the nerve to dress like that, no matter what their age. There’s a dark edge to my style and I’ll always keep it, no matter how old I get.

It depends. Regardless of age, some people it really works for, and others it’s just a trend.

With any style, I think it’s about moderation. Neither of those pictures has what i would consider to be ‘casual’ clothing…but I don’t know. I guess people just have to be confident in whatever they’re comfortable with.

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - I used to dress that way, so don’t make assumptions.

You’re not changing my opinion whatsoever, just like I’m not going to change yours.

@sick_of_dreams@xanga - You’re not going to change my opinion, just as I won’t change yours.

@walkintotheseaaa@xanga - I’m not trying to change you opinion I think it’s wonderful that we all have diffret backgrounds and different ideas. Just why do we all have to hate? let’s just let everyone do their own thing and love each other and individuals!

@faded_memorii@xanga - The worse is that I plan to become a primary school teacher (I have to work 3 years to become one, I have 3 years behind me and a degree !). My boyfriend is also gothic and plan to be a scientisit (he is in fatc, but still studying to get a master and then a doctorat). And no problem in the scientific wolrd with the gothic style ! But I think that germany is more welcome for gothic, and we live near the border.

@Eglariel@xanga - Yep, it’s true. But everybody has to adapt his style to work. It’s normal in a way, but true that it can be more “impressive” to go from a gothic style (that can be really soft in fact, more than a trendy people’s style ), than a people who like jeans and simple shirts.

@lapis_lazuli917@xanga - In fact, they changed the pictures of my article … I put the one with Dita, but not the first one who was pick up I think at the Mera Luna festival… It’s obvious that we -goth people- are not dressing like that everyday lol

@Begierde - Oh, yeah, I can see what you mean. People might not mind that your boyfriend is Gothic if he is going to be a scientist, but they might care if their child’s teacher is Gothic. :/

I hope not! Good luck! And good luck to your boyfriend, too! I hope that you can succeed in the career paths that you have chosen. And that nobody tries to bring you down just because of your lifestyle.

I’m glad that you have optimism, though! And I’m glad that where you live seems to be more accepting of Goths. Or at least, if not more accepting then more tolerant. Either way, it helps you.

My grandmother was from Germany. Not that that has anything to do with anything. Lol! :p

it’s even disgusting on teens.

There’s no cut off age for it if you ask me. If someone wants to dress that way it’s their own right. I see it as freedom of expression. That’s how they’re deciding to express themselves.

The second pic is indeed hot… Love that.  Anyway, its a lifestyle..I venture to guess, if one doesnt like it, they can look away.  Nothing wrong with someone dressing however they want… jeans that ride so low I can see butt crack, or dresses so short I can see the colour of a girls underwear..stuff like that scares me.  

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - I don’t need to step out of my comfort zone, I’m perfectly happy the way I dress. And, don’t have the desire to dress like a goth, I like to have nice clothes. But, you know whoever likes that style can go for it.. (: And anyway, I can think whatever I want to about gothic clothing.

@Begierde - I pretty much fall under the “goth” category myself, lol, so I’m aware that it isn’t how people normally dress. But there are people who will take it that far, and I’m not sure how, ahaha.

@lapis_lazuli917@xanga - true ^^

@chelseanataliex@xanga - I never said you couldn’t think what you wanted to. I said you should step out of your comfort zone before you open your big fat mouth and go judging people who dress like such. Good god, you can’t read, can you? *rolls eyes*

@deepinme@xanga - LOL, now THAT should scare people, being able to see butt cracks and underwear and shit like that *high five*

@walkintotheseaaa@xanga - And why did you stop? Did you look at how everyone else was dressing and feel a need to fit in? Anyway I’m not trying to change your opinion, so keep thinking how you want to.

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - My comfort zone doesn’t have anything to do with it, I just don’t like the gothic look, therefore would never go for it whether or not it is or isn’t in my comfort zone. Well, I’m sorry I don’t have a “big fat mouth” you don’t need to get so annoyed about it. I’m not judging them, I’m just saying that I find it ugly, I don’t care whoever wants to dress like that can go ahead. Yeah, I can read, thank you very much. (: It also sounds like your implying that I can’t think what I want to, but you know whatever.. you just have to have arguments with everyone and anyone.

@chelseanataliex@xanga - Done. Stop. Shut up. You don’t get my point, so I’m probably just gonna ignore whatever else you have to say. Maybe you can read, but you can’t COMPREHEND very well

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - LoL…dont sweat the crazy talk.  The concept of “Live and Let Live” totally eludes some people.  Its way easier to look at others and judge, than it is to look within and and be accepting of the world around.  I dont know what it is…

I know I would have missed out on some incredible friendships and great times if I looked at people that way…and vice versa.  I dress incredibly conservative, but my personality is anything but.  .Im one of those “freaks in disguise” types.

I think it can be eccentric and refreshing if it’s really what makes you happy, but I’ve definitely seen a few who are just trying to hold onto their teenage years.

I dont think anything because i’m not judgemental. What has it got to do with anyone but them?

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - No, don’t tell me to shut up. I do get your point, actually. Ignore me all you want, I really just don’t care. And yeah, I can comprehend, just fine. Maybe, you just seem to think that I don’t get your point?

I think…. it’s kinda stupid. Once you get out of your teenage years, you should try to make yourself more presentable and dress appropriately because you have a job or are looking for one and those people look at your appearance. I guess basically… dress your age, act your age. 

Cool.

hahahaha this is so stupid. can people be normal anymore these days?

@soniiuh@xanga - So, I’m 21. For you, what is the dress code of a french student of 21  ? And one of 31years old  ? Or 40 ? or 70 years old ?
It’s very subjective.

@Begierde - I too throught it was rude of that man to say it was not “true” goth these days. But he is a prick, basically.

@chelseanataliex@xanga - I’ve read your post about hair colors… why is it different for gothic clothing?

@imyourstargirl@xanga - lol EXACTLY what I was going to say.

@soniiuh@xanga - dress your age? Can you tell me what I have to wear? i’m 26…
I think you’re reaction is…stupid.

if they want, they can.

it does, however, ring an alarm for me about their attitude. from my experience, there are an inordinate amount of people who dress like this who have attitudes that really piss me off. they don’t care that their life choices could hut other people. “it’s my life” my ASS. everything you do affects other people and you know it.

so yeah. i won’t bother them, but if i’m walking with a child, i’m going to avoid them.

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - If you walk with a child you avoid them? WHY?
the writter of this article is a sweet girl. You should visit her blog and tell me if you are affraid…
Why are you so judgmental. Have you ever been attacked by a goth?
Hat is their “attitude”? How many goth do you know?

meh. it’s different, but i think you should dress in whatever style you like, regardless of your age.

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - Wow, it’s true, some gothic are “bad guys”. But it’s the same everywhere you know. Pedophils, rapist murderer are often “normal looking” people. I’m more likely to pay attention at people dressing “the more commonly possible” concerning dangerosity. By the way, I wanna be a teacher and I’m very inoffensive (I don’t even eat meat and i’m an convinced ecologist and for peace on earth…).

I think dressing that way is a ploy for attention most of the time. Many of us have gone through phases in middle school and high school, where we did things because we were just dying to be different and to be noticed, whether we knew that was why at the time or not. Most of us grow out of it by our 20′s, and I think people who don’t grow out of it are still, sadly, desperately seeking attention.

I think another reason people dress that way is to distract others from themselves (as contradictory as that sounds). Whether they be obese or ugly or have some personality defect. They dress like freaks so people are like “Oh my God, do you see what she’s wearing?!” instead of “Oh my god, she’s a cow!” So that way they feel like it’s their choice and in their control that people see them as different.

@Mercredi - I’m not judging anyone for wearing gothic clothing, if they want to wear gothic clothing, so be it. Go ahead! I’m just saying that I find it ugly.

@frozencherries@xanga - …. LOL have you seen the author of this artcile? She not ugly and she’s not obese.
And not being/dressing different does not mean we want your attention. You are not the center of the world thank you.

@Begierde - @Mercredi - Wow. Honestly, I could care less about what people wear. Thing is, on this planet there is a lot of competition for jobs and in order to obtain the good ones, you must impress them not only with your experience or worth ethic but they will also put your appearance into account, too. Obviously, not all points will go to your appearance but some will. There is no dress-code, but if you want to be taken seriously in this world of stereotypes and generalizations and most of all competiton, then you must dress appropriately. That is all I am saying. 

@Mercredi - Why? Because I don’t want them to have the chance to grow up with an insensitive attitude. I’m not afraid of them; most of them aren’t truly impressive people anyway. And yes I’ve been attacked by a Goth. Verbally because of: how “I” dress, about my beliefs (because I’m not into that whole ‘celtic paganism’ shit), about the fact that I don’t drink or smoke and discourage weed legalization. Not to mention actual attacks poised to intimidate by people who have the mindset of a 14-year-old juvie lock-up. Some of these people have no regard for human life outside their own clique. No, my child is not going to encounter these sort of people until he or she has developed the maturity to deflect these attacks.

I should have said this in my last post; I do know a couple of Gothic people who are really great people. They go to medieval fairs and love their music and what they believe. They don’t mind that they’re judged and I give them my respect and admiration and friendship accordingly. But I’ve found that these people are far and few between and as much as I’d love to say “I don’t judge people by the way they dress”, I do.

@Begierde - Read my reply to Mercredi because I’m too lazy to rewrite it so it makes sense in reply to you

@Mercredi - I never said they want my attention. I said they want attention. Generally speaking. :]

@S_K_O_T@xanga - I LOVE this comment.  Thank you!

@frozencherries@xanga - they don’t want ATTENTION. What about being oneself? 

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - Wow it’s even worse than I thought. So goths are in a “clique” they are insensitive? they are violent and they do drugs?
I’m glad that you have goths that are your friends. Do they know that you think they are “insensitive”?

It seems to be such an honour to have your friendship…

I’ve been attacked by 2 young people wearing… a sportsuit… I should avoid gym club no

its up to them their choice anyone who thinks it strange are just morons

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - I understand better your opinion.  ^^

all the adult women I know who dress goth are….on the heavier side. a pale 40 year old women in a leather corset dress and black high heels with tons of cellulite isnt a pleasent sight

@soniiuh@xanga - I work in a bank, one of the most important of my country. And I’m studying to became a member of the educational system…

@Mercredi - They don’t want attention? Please, everyone wants to be noticed, for the most part. Goths just use their physical appearance. Saying they’re attention-seeking may not be the nicest way of putting it, so would you prefer I say they just wanna’ be noticed? :]

And the ugliness they may be trying to cover up may not be physical, nor may it be visible to anyone but themselves.

I’m simply stating my opinion.

If they dress nicely, it’s fine… like Dita Von Teese

@Mercredi - Yes, the Goths IN these cliques are insensitive. A lot of them are on drugs and are violent. And they know what I think of some of THEIR friends and parts of their lifestyle. And of course, it’s an honor to be friends with a Goth, ne?

You misconstrue my words, dreary. I’ve been attacked by them all my life.

@Begierde - Thank you. And just so you know, if I met you, REALLY met you in a situation where we could speak to each other, I might just like you. There’s a difference between seeing you in the street and working with you.

@x__BeautiifulxDiisaster__x@xanga - DITA VON TESSE IS HOT.

just saying.

@frozencherries@xanga -  I just want to add that being goth is way more than physical appearance.
We’re not talking about 14 year old girls insecure about themselves who dress in black to express some kind of sadness (and they deserve respect too) but of adults who are decided to stay true to their style and lifestyle
Of course some of them may be attention whores. I don’t think it’s the case of the young woman who wrote it.
And she’s truly beautiful. Both inside and outside

I don’t really care as long as they don’t look overwhelmingly ridiculous.

@bitterbittenrockinblonde22@xanga - Nah, I just… I suddenly had a strong desire to wear nothing but really flowing floral dresses (ha, random, I know), and then from there I just never went back.

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - you’re right. A striper is a better role model

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - ok. I see your point. It’s like punks in a way. I know some that are really nice and others…
sorry. I just feel attacked in a way too

@walkintotheseaaa@xanga - it has nothing to do with the subject but you look absolutely wonderful in your profile pic. It’s almost goth style for grown up. lol

It’s really none of anyone elses business to judge. It’s about the same as any other high school stereotype.

Forty year old preps? They’re just as disgusting. You’re only bringing up goths because you dislike their whole demeanor.

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - Totally agree!

@walkintotheseaaa@xanga - I agree, you look stunning. 

@Mercredi - Okay, that’s good. But you just kind of proved my point, no offense. Just because you feel attacked doesn’t mean you should attack back.

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - that’s true. And I recognize it’s hard. But I can assure you that my friend is a really sweet girl.
And the funny part… I’m not a goth. ABSOLUTELY not. I’m just… very classic.

maddddddd people

=P

quite awesome.

@SmilingThoughts@xanga - Oh ehay ! Bloody mad ! =p

@Mercredi - I believe it. But it’s not for you to say to me, you know? The person as an individual has to show me that they aren’t what I’ve experienced for such a long time. And a person can’t show me who they are by walking down the street.

@Mercredi - @Begierde - Aw, thank you so much! I adore that dress.  I did a photo shoot in it recently.

http://x86.xanga.com/93ef4655d3632252359973/m200444188.jpg
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@walkintotheseaaa@xanga - Nice pictures ^^

to each is own, its a life style that they choose to embrace and theres nothing wrong with that.

@walkintotheseaaa@xanga -  you look stunning in that dress. 

I’m a big James Marster’s (Spike from Buffy) fan so when I go to his concerts I’m always surrounded by 40 goths. I think it’s great that they feel free to express themselves like that but it’s clearly not for everyone.

I do not think there is an age limit at all… My mother who was born in 71 was very much apart of this scene and I guess I got her genes cause I’m very much apart of it as well. I feel that many people have a negitive reaction….
Thing to know about this is:
1. Not everyone who is this way (since it truely is a state of mind not matter) has not had a horrible life… some of them if not most… are really happy people who just prefer to be edgy vs anything else.
2. They tend to be very nice people and they are some of the most artistic people I have ever met. Highly intelligent and capable many in college or with six figure jobs….
3. Clothes are a means to express oneself but it does mature with age… my mother still has a wardrobe of mostly black.. but mostly because it is slimming and my mom just likes black (as do i)
The chains and spike and everything is just a way to have fun….
4. I hate to say it this way but… as a person from the “edgier” side of the world I wish everyone to know this… that we as a whole group (even though our beliefs are very vast) do not need acceptance by anyone… you either accept or you don’t… and if you don’t you are usually closed minded and only know all the scary stories or stereotypes that someone has decided to lie to you about. And if you do find someone who matches that… they are only giving us a bad name… they are NOT part of our faction.
5. We deem to have a more relaxed lifestyle and the world around us just spins in a different way sometimes… now some people are WAY out there with it… but i appreciate them… gives me some diversity… I also feel that we have a tendency to be more understanding… since we are all so very different… my friends and family don’t go around judging any other fashion or way of life. Perhaps others do but I know my family does not…
6. There is not always a need to dress outlandishly… (as some people would call it) most of that is saved for parties… and special occasions… we dress pretty normal (at least by our standards) I usually wear a dark shirt with some jeans a pair of cute flats and maybe a necklace or bracelet.

At the end of the day we are who we are…. and I don’t want to have to change my mentality to fit into the worlds “ideal mold” whatever that maybe… and I refuse too… I hope this clears somethings up

@imyourstargirl@xanga - They ARE following a trend! Being goth is a trend…

I am SO tired of people stereotyping like that. Just because your goth it does not mean your ‘original’ and not following the ‘trend’. Being goth is a trend, so i think you’re not original at ALL if you dress like a goth only. In fact, i think it is narrow minded to only dress up in one style.

Personally, i think it looks stupid, especially on grown up people, cmon people! I wouldn’t like a person who dresses like that to be my doctor or dentist. Each their own though. But there is a BIG difference between following a trend and just being yourself. Just because you’re yourself does not mean you have to wear stuff no one ever has worn before, in that sense no one is original and that’s true! We all get our style from something, unless you make your own clothing yourself and think up of your own designs, make up, and all that, you’re NOT ORIGINAL.

&& with the word original i also mean unique. It’s not fcking unique if alot of people wear it, i know plenty of goths. The day i see someone wear something i’ve never seen before is the day i’ll believe people can actually be unique and original.

@chell_kicks_08@xanga - Nice comment, well written. This post needed someone written this . Thank you so much for this.

@chelseanataliex@xanga - Agree with you. As soon as i say i find goth clothing ugly, i get attacked by people! It’s like, god grow up. Not EVERYONE has to like it. I don’t like it and i doubt goths like my clothing style either so. I’m not telling em to change, i couldn’t care less how people dress.

its equivalent to the moms wearing hollister thing.. ehh

weird.

Well I  like the picture you ask your question about ! But the general rule og thumb is when one gets past 30 years old, your too old to be a Goth  , but they are very creative and use lovely fabrics in their clothing design ! Mad no , some are very smart kids and are serious about their studies. In this day and age people dress how they feel. I see very large women wearing very tight spandex clothing, and you can see rolls, lumps and bumps then there is the JUNK IN THE TRUCK  aspect. I have met very wealthy and prominent  people dress as though they dressed in the dark, nothing matches, but they aresmart and neat to speak with. just look at Susan Boyle, everyone juged her on her appearance, yet she is a singing marvel and who cares what she looks like or dresses like, she is a pleasure to listen to singing and talking she is so honest and cheerful. We all judge on apppearnce, but try to speak with someone before you judge them.  

maybe if american goths looked better *sigh*

japanese goths do it so much better, and adults over there look fine when dressed as goths.
for some reason, so many of the goths in the US whom i have seen are roughly whale sized, and the goth look does not work very well on obese people!! maybe it’s just that i keep seeing the super fat ones but…

It is just a style. Besides halloween is coming up soon.

I think that if that’s how they want to dress, as long as they know when it’s not appropriate, such as when working, then more power to them for being able to be who they are even though our society generally doesn’t accept it.

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@Gileen@xanga - I personnatly don’t do this post to judge, but to get opinion (because I’m an adult gothic, so…). I like yours. It’s true that people made fun of Susan before, and now it’s ok since she is well known… I think it’s not fair, but people love judging and making fun :/ I think they have to look at themself before, but those who does this almost never does !

hmmm if i was goth i wud stop at like after highschool but i’m not goth so hey whatever makes them happy rite?

pretty much depends on how you do it. Mind you, if you want to climb up the ladder in an office job and still have a little bit of “you” in your everyday wear…do it with accents or accessories, or some color choices. Don’t wear your hair like the first pic. PLZ. It’d be hard to keep up throughout the day

BUT REALLY. just like anyone should — expand your fashion options. I like to dabble w/ different pieces. It keeps my life interesting.

@SeitekiChibiNeko@xanga - Hopefully, we, european goth, are available on all sizes lol. :p
 But it’s true that japanese have awsome way of dressing, goth and other as well in fact. They are so impressive, and often very nice people.

@Begierde - Well, thank you and your welcome. People need to be well informed to understand things like this… and I’m just trying to help it along.

@Eyes_Herself@xanga - In fact, in the original post I don’t put the first picture, it was a choice of lovelyish :/ And i think it can make people react differently compared with the pitures I chose !

@chell_kicks_08@xanga - It’s very hard to convince people that we’re not freaks or mentally ill person according to many comments!

@Begierde - Your right and to me it is sad… I’m only 19 but my mother has been going up against this fight for quite some time… and I feel for her, others and almost for myself at this point.. Some people judge so harshly and it is all around me… and it is in such abundance that I have to clear my mind and think about it before insulting myself or my family! I mean from where I stand… I’m happy to be me… but sometimes it is hard because in the back of my mind I know people are judging me… I just want to be me and I almost feel like some people would not even associate with me due to rumors or fake ideals that some person came up with just to give someone a bad name… there are days that I truely do feel lost in the crowd… and I shouldn’t have to and it makes me wonder if others feel this way… I don’t go down the streets looking any different then anyone else (in my opinion) and I’m in college trying to get a good education. I’m even a ballerina! Come on now! Yet I still feel that I am judged and I hate it! However I suppose that is the mentality of people in this world… and over time… I have sort of learned to get used to it… but isn’t it sad to have to get used to it? I’m almost to the point of truely not caring. I’m upset with myself for letting it get to me…

Um, you’re implying that Goth is just a phase for teenagers to go through and grow out of. Hun, check up on the culture a little.

@Begierde - haha, i was wondering about that too. that first picture is kind of terrible. i mean, the lighting and the composition and everything. not to mention that’s it’s blurry >.<

@ferociousfruitbat@xanga - I’m implying nothing since I’m an adult goth… But I assume that my elocution can be a bit confusion, becaue english is not my mother tong. In fact, I didn’t choose the pictures of this article too, so it’s also confusing.

@chell_kicks_08@xanga - Well, It’s true it’s hard sometimes. I’m 21 and at University (just finish my study at Uni), I had to go toward people, because some of them were scared of me ! When they told me that, they feel a bit shame. I’m a veyr little person, 5’1, slim so it’s hard to believe that people taller than me and over 20 can be scared by me.. But the reason is that they are stuck on fake stereotypes. They thought I was a baby cat killer, blood drinker and things like that, whereas I’m a vegetarian struggling to protect animals, helping young immigrate children to speak french and things like that ! (In fact, Immigrant are very open minded. I helped an Afghan young girl, and his father accepted me wihout judgement ! Something quite unbelievable in a french family…).

People have fake images and stand on them… what a pity …

     I like eighties goth as much as anybody else!  Of course I don’t go out in any typical fashion, or with any intent to make a statement!  True to me is if any one looks at pictures of the band Joy Division from the early eighties late seventies, they’ll see these originators of goth, even Robert Smith, (composer of The Cure), all these guys dressed in shirts, slacks and ties(optional).  No make up or dracula impersonations there! That to me is goth.  It’s not in the dress, but the attitude of resistance against establishment!

      Why do we need a utopia?  When life can give you that expression of utopian togetherness, or individuallity!

@ferociousfruitbat@xanga - In fact, even the title is not the one I choose -_-

Who cares.. it’s not like their clothing choices make them bad people. If that’s how they want to dress, then fine..

It’s who they are.

‘s far as i’m concerned, i couldn’t care less if adults choose to dress goth.  i would say they are eccentric, but there are a million other forms of eccentricity.  it makes life a little more interesting.

@frozencherries@xanga – “I think dressing that way is a ploy for attention most of the time.”

Or maybe because they simply like and feel comfortable dressing that way. Everyone has their own tastes, I personally dress similar to the “goth/punk” style. I don’t dress a certain manner so I can have all eyes on me. I love what I wear; I don’t do obnoxious neon colors and floral prints. I don’t go to the extremes with my outfits cuz that’s too much effort, ya know. XD

And I’ve been able to subtly corporate some of that style into my work outfits. No problems, whatsoever. 

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Aw. =]

When I said “their boats” I was referring to the older people who like to stick to their Goth style, not just anyone. Like I know some old men like their boats getting floated by touching children and I didn’t mean them!

Buying into a particular trend at any age is just stupid. Unless that style is absolutely 100% their preference and they have an affinity for every fragment of it, in which case, good for them.

If you’re 50 years old you can dress any damn way you want. Yeah, some of them look like retards, but it’s a much better look overall than having your pants hanging down below your arse and the inherent speech impediments that ensue from being a chav. And (some) goth chicks are hawt! (depending on how scary they are)

Fucking labels. SHUT UP!

Let people be who they want to be, no matter how old they are. YOU are the one who needs to grow up. Judging people is very middle/high school.

@ThoseAreCheerios@xanga - well, I have to say that lovelyish change my title, my images and that english is not my mother tongue. This post is not a judgement but the will to raise opinion, since I’m an adult goth… (many people have the impression that it’s a post to make fun or something like that, it’s not, definitly)

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Bingo.

I think hat people who dress “goth” all of their lives (into adulthood and beyone) are true to theirselves and forget that there is a lable hanging over them that society gives them. Obviously they like their stye and don’t want to change it because here is the key: they don’t care about what people like you and I think of them.

/facepalm

I was shocked to see how many people believe the misconception that Goth is a lifestyle. Goth is NOT a lifestyle, it’s a musical-based subculture. Goths actually differ quite a bit. Except for a preference for Goth music every Goth is different. They are all individuals that live in their own unique way. There are no beliefs or ideals attached to the subculture. 

@xsPoNgEs_go_SQUISHx13@xanga - Hey, one thing, lay off us Celts.

What so many of these dopey ‘Goths’/'modern primitives’/? are doing has NOTHING to do with any ancient Celtic religion and spirituality.

And while the Celts and Goths in ancient times had some basic similarities, they were also markedly different.

As far as “Paganism” goes, that’s a much misunderstood and misapplied phrase, from either side, as well.

I agree with some other things you said though.

@Athlyx@xanga - Yes, and/but, you do see though that general “boat floating” can sail people up some particularly dark rivers!

depends on who you are. the people in the first picture shouldn’t. the second picture, it looked good on her. goth is a hard thing to pull off. and i mean actual goth not band t shirts and bondage pants. that’s not goth.

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Yes, I see. =]

I think its alright its really up to them
the question is if they could handle being judged by others or people making fun of them

@carydeeluxe@xanga - ya your post is essentially what i was going to say,

who cares. it’s not about “still” dressing goth. if they like that style then let them be.

people need to get over people that are different from them.

aww. i was hoping for a picture of a mid-50s goth.

and it doesn’t really bother me to see ANYONE dress goth. there once was a time where i too wanted to indulge in this style. yes, yes, i know. surprising, huh? haha

i barely scratched the surface of it and i thank god i could never afford to buy what i thought was cool back then.

ahh, the years of non-conformity, misplaced teenage angst, and invader zim

Whatever makes them happy. It’s not up to us to judge.

how do they get jobs?

It’s all about personal style/preference. etc. So of course you’ve got the folks who say it’s ugly and sad/silly for anyone over a teenaged age to be wearing a “Goth” outfit. I personally think that if it is done tastefully within the consideration of age limit, it can be done at any age. People will be opinionated no matter what. I honestly don’t care and it’s probably because I have friends who are well over 20 who channel their inner Goth and work it quite well. It’s not ridiculous or ugly to me. It’s a form of expression and is no worse than people who wear those ridiculous hair pieces and extensions with the raccoon eyes. I’m old now so um…what is that…scene or that emo thing? I personally can’t stand that look while the rest of the world loves it.

Go figure.

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Haha, alright. My apologies then.

Goths get my vote, no matter what age. Just hate mall goths…only kind I can’t stand.

It depends on the context. Those who wear it in public all the time, I view them no different than, say, adults who always wear the latest trends. Busy trying to stand out in a quite superficial way.

Then again, I suppose a difference needs to be made between heavy eyeliner and chains everywhere goth and elegant goth.

As for adults who dress normal but like dressing goth at say a goth festival or the like, they’re having fun, so be it. It’s not much different than people like myself dressing in period attire for renaissance festivals and the like.

However, in the end, whatever makes them happy.

Why does it matter, clothes are clothes. You can’t tell someone to “grow up” or “dress your own age”. Their way of dressing may seem “different” but someone can imply the same thing about you, no matter how normal it may appear.

If you like the way you dress and it makes you happy, then keep it up. However, you can’t be ignorant and rag on other people’s style. Allow others express themselves the same way. 

I say to each his or her own. Regardless of age. Gender. Race.

I think it can be cool. You should be able to dress how you want, and look how you want. You will always find people who will dislike it. As a matter of fact, people would even find a problem with how you look naturally, so you shouldn’t care what people think… Goth or not and regardless on what age you may be. You cant live to please people you will never know.

Yeah I doubt anyone would take an adult dressed like that seriously. That’s why it’s so incredibly uncommon. At least around here.

And I’m referring to the eccentric ones.

I always have thought of goth as a religon, so I would just say that they’re strange?

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It doesn’t bother me any. After all, who am I to judge? We all have our own different styles. Eventually, though, alot of us just kind of lose that uniqueness about us because we have to conform to the professional themes of the workplace. If they can keep it up, more power to them! Personally, it’s too much effort for me but I am DEFINITELY not going to say something like “that’s so middle school.” What’s middle school is people’s ignorance on the style and where it originates. The goths were a real people and they used to dress like that. It was a way of life. Had the Renaissance style had this devoted of a following, we wouldn’t have to limit ourselves to wearing elaborate dresses one time a year at a festival that’s only in limited cities.

lol everyone has a sense of style, and i suppose some prefer goth and some don’t, so at any rate, it’s not wrong, just different. i like it. it gives people a sense of individuality

they are cool?
and gothic lolita is cutee^_^

i think it’s awesome.

Goth is a style. Anyone can wear whatever style they wanna wear,
 I refuse to judge someone based upon what they wear.
 If they’re a minority especially, I say kudos to them — it doesn’t affect my day none.

Dress however you want, but remember that not everyone around you is going to be so accepting. I went to grad school with a guy who was pushing 30, had grown his hair down to his butt (but couldn’t grow it on top of his head…comical), and insisted on wearing ratty black EVERYTHING.

I didn’t have any problem with it, until he told me that he was having a hard time finding a job…as a teacher. I asked him what he wore to interviews, and he said “pretty much just this.”

If you want to get a job as a teacher…keep the dog collar, black eyeliner, and black tshirt that’s older than some of your students at home. The only problem I have with people who are into the whole goth look (and many are close friends of mine) is when they complain that they can’t get a job. We all dress nicely in job interviews…you don’t get a free pass just because your style is “off the grid.”

In fact, you go ahead and keep dressing like that in job interviews. It was probably what gave me the edge I needed to land a job over you, and in this economy, every little bit helps.

Why do adults still dress goth?

For a myriad of different reasons (there are many types of goth, many goth subcultures), including this.

If you’re going to be different in ways you can help, it’s better to go for conventional unconventionalism (common).  It’s far more social and a lot more fun unless you can truly do unconventional well and have people nearly standing in line to be your friend or buy your stuff (rare, and rare again).

What do I think of adults who dress goth?  Depends on the adult because mode of dress doesn’t tell me a bit about their demonstrable ethics, their functional virtues, their behavioral patterns healthy or ill, or much of anything that really matters.

i think i’d be surprised but i’d also find it really cool.  it takes a lot of courage and confidence in yourself to dress in a way that isn’t considered the most “in” fashion.  I guess for some teenagers it’s a phase, but to keep dressing like that at an older age just shows that they are sure of who they are

iunno, just my opinion ;]

Personally, I’m not a big fan of the goth look at any age.

Nothing wrong with that, I hope I can do that when I’m an adult

Disgusting.
Not good enough to be trash.

Maybe is their culture or life style.

@LawaiGirl@xanga - There’s another rash recipe for a whole MESS of bad things!

I like dark victorian inspired clothing. But people can swing to make it silly most of the time. 

I don’t assume anything, I just see that’s the way the person likes to express him/herself. Perhaps Goth isn’t just a style, also a culture that an individual  sticks to.  

@S_K_O_T@xanga - Haha. Within reason. If simply for fashion, or what one wears, I just don’t care what other people’s preference is. I just worry about my own and how I feel about my appearance.

@onlyFORaLILwhile@xanga - By sending CV … I worked in a bnak and plan to be a member of the french education system (studying for that). Do you really think that gothic peolpe are always wearing clothes like in the first picture ? This picture was choose by lovelyish, not the author (me…)… We’re not always wearing this kind of clothes, and the first picture is from a gothic festival !
@stoneyrocks_socks@xanga - That are not my images, lovelyish get rid of some of mine and put the first one on. As well as my title….

I don’t think age really matters.  Will people look at you weird if you’re in your 50s and still dressing goth? Probably.  But that’s your choice.  I wouldn’t do it, but I never would have done it as a teenager, either (the worst I ever did was attempt to dye my hair black).

@thorssiwho@xanga - People who attack people who say they find goth clothing ugly, like we do are obviously just very unrealistic. Just because they like that style, it doesn’t mean everyone else is going to like it. And anyway, we all have a right to an opinion. But if we all wore the same clothes it wouldn’t be a very interesting world, would it?

@LawaiGirl@xanga - Yes, only as long as it’s fashion or style, and well within reason, and for good reason!

For Halloween, conventions, and photoshoots’ sake: okay.
On a day-to-day basis: not okay. Not supportable, even – what sort of a job could you take that’d let you walk in looking like Marilyn Manson daily?

Cool

woof to the first pic. but really, i don’t worry about other people’s style.  

More power to them. I’d rather have the world filled with goths then people who don’t know how to dress their bodies. Example: http://peopleofwalmart.com/?p=2291

I used to interact with these types of people. They happen to be smarter than your average “normal” follow-the-trend person. They dress that way for poetic reasons, and have fun with it. 

I bet the goth style was invented by people OVER the age of 21.
And if so, why are older goths suppose to “tone it down”?

I think it doesn’t matter the age, sex, religion, race, creed or whatever to dress “goth”.
I respect those who can dress it at their age and look awesome all the time. Some may not look well in it, but they just have to find the style that will grow with them.

I’m always awestruck when I see older goths showing they are still kick ass.

The eccentric ones that try to dress like they’re from another world (or straight out of a video game) … I think they need to lose most of their escapism. Unless it’s just an occasional get up for the fun of it.

But people who wear black, I’m fine with that. I still have a tiny flame of lust for this guy who wears black everyday.

At least know how to behave and function with common society; know that reality does not contain magic or vampires..

that is just fine… common this is just how they wanna dress.

if you think this is some act, they think this is cool then you just dont get
it that this is normal to them, yeah they think this is cool like other ppl think
its cool to be tan, wear jeans.

Ppl who are dissing ppl who dress like they want to have to grow up and
actiually realize that they like who they are and dont try to hide it and that this
is a style, not something to grow out of..

grow up.

I’m sure there’s a classy way to still dress goth-like as an adult, but… I see it as quite immature….

thy comment from an eccentric female artist of 39 ans

 1.Age doesn’t matter its how you can put it together in a personal yet creative manner

2. To those who say grow up what does this mean exactly?

To fall out of style because you are no longer the bloom of 20 something
Remember children you will no longer be such an age where you continue to look upon those who are way older then yourself  as old and needs to stay in the background you yourself will reach that shall we say discriminating age of beyond 20

3.enjoy your life. live; design dress and be as you wish regardless of age life is about being doing and enjoying  not lakiening yourself into some sort of catagory because of age or what and how society says one should be.

I am a lover of gothic styles and many other which I tend to mix and match at my whim when it comes to fashion.

Have fun and just be our bodies and this world is our canvas