Lovelyish

She can love all people but she does not have to approve of their lifestyles, just like you or I don’t. She has a right to her opinion as well. Actually, I think her response increased her beauty inside…her love for God to take a stand, KNOWING it would probably cost her the crown!

The Bible says to be a friend to the world is to be an enemy to God. She took a stand for God, not the world. She has my utmost respect!

Oh, and one more thing….God looks at the appearance of the heart, Ms. California’s heart, just like yours and mine, not her physical beauty! I’m SURE He smiled with her response!!!

Here’s the video of the question and her answer as well as an interview with Miss California.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6MxqT9hKyw

I personally applaud her and think she did phenomenal in this interview. I agree with everything she said!

Unfortunately, there was another girl that topped Miss California. I believe it was Arizona.

I loved when TLC held their special on it and they all agreed that sex after marriage was the only thing to be advocated, but when ask who was still a virgin not one of them raised their hands.

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - It’s all politics. Just like politics, the church and state must be separated. Miss America doesn’t only represent just the Christians, but all of America. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, just that at some areas, it is best to keep it to yourself.

@awokenfatality@xanga - Oh I agree about the politics part, and she could have kept it to herself. In fact, I’m sure she realized the implications of her response as she stated it, but as I said, I’d rather lose some silly crown versus God being upset with me. Comes to mind the scripture about winning the whole world yet losing your soul.

And as far as representing all of America, if I recall those questions, as they are random, are seeking the contestant’s opinion, not “all” of Americans, Christians, etc.’s opinion. That is the part of the pageant where they stand free on opinion. And to my knowledge, the questioning part of the pageant used to be voted on as to the content of their answer in regards to structural flow, keeping to the subject, not whether or not their opinion went well with the crowd.

Sad, just very sad if you ask me!

“Opposite marriage”. Enough said. It makes me cringe to listen to her talk.

the woman stated Her opinion and that is final. Homos and drama queens need to get over it. A homo asked a straight person that question…..what did he expect?! HAd he asked a fellow homo, she would answer advocating same sex marriage…..would hetero’s be allowed to have an uproaor then??

She was asked her opinion and she answered…with her opinion. Are we not allowed to give opinions anymore unless they are from a liberal viewpoint?

I applaud her for having the courage to stand up for her beliefs — she didn’t force them on anyone, just stated what her and her family believed.

Why is that wrong?

@XxFireXboltxX@xanga - Agreed

@XxFireXboltxX@xanga - @spanz@xanga - Agreed as well!

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - Great point!!!

I think her answer was inarticulate, at worst. I mean, for someone who has to speak live in front of millions of viewers, she should have had a more sophisticated answer, although given the controversy over that question and the stress she might have been feeling at the time, I guess it’s understandable that she fumbled with her words a bit.

Also remember. it could have been a lot worse…she could have said that all homosexuals are evil and recruit children and are slaves to the devil or something, but she didn’t. If there’s any polite way to oppose gay marriage, I think she did just that.

lol, ‘opposite marriage’. i need to use that term in normal conversation pronto.

she answered a question and stuck to her guns (i doubt she thought of the implications beforehand though, btw) and whatever. people need to get over stuff like this. guess what, gays? some people don’t like you and are honest about it.

and about her not being as beautiful as she was before she spoke? didja want her to lie or something? because, sometimes, people don’t want to have to sacrifice the truth for a couple of hackle-raisers.

and i think she’s still a lovely girl. of course, i didn’t watch that show at all until the answer but the girl’s character, judging from her answer, seems to be alright. you could see she struggled with the question knowing that her answer would probably not be received well which indicates a good heart.

oH Paahlleezzee. 

She should be judged on whether she states her opinion well – not what she states.  Otherwise, what’s the point in asking her when in your mind there’s only one “right” answer? 

She has the right to believe what she wants to believe – despite “popular” opinion.  She just needs to state her case well and not just say it was how she was rasied. 

People have to grow up and form their own opinions and reasons for why they think the way they think – not just follow religion or any other institution blindly.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - can you stop using the term “homo”? you could just have easily said homosexual, and i’m sure that you’re aware of the derogatory nature of “homo”.

Honestly, it makes you sound like a very unaccepting person.

Uhh wtheck? I think she gave a great answer and did not isolate gay people. Out of all the contestants, she had the most controversial question. And she gave her answer in a pretty diplomatic way. She didn’t lie, she addressed the other side, and gave her own views on the question. This isn’t a political competition. This is a beauty pageant. So why is there all this debate on her giving the wrong answer, when there is no right or wrong answer? Don’t you think Perez Hilton was being a total idiot going off on Miss California and calling her names?

I’m glad she stood up for her beliefs. She has my respect.

wow, Im sorry, but the way she put the fact that she was conservative and how she believed marraige was for a man and a woman was really polite and professional. There’s really no better way to say it. at least she didn’t lie and change herself for a stupid pageant. 

“A pageant queen should have the intelligence and the heart to love all
of her people. She should never make anyone feel inferior, despite
possessing overwhelming beauty, talent, intelligence and goodwill.”

Jesus Christ, and here I was thinking all along that all Pageant Queen’s did was smile and get their hair done.
She stood by her beliefs. Yeah, a lot of people don’t agree with them, but that’s what she did. And I respect that.
To everyone getting their knickers in a knot over her response, the way to get people to agree with your beliefs is not to be confrontational and resort to name-calling, but to be rational and open about the situation.
Besides, she’s just one person. I think in the heat of this entire argument, she didn’t make one difference except giving people an excuse to make this Pageant seem remotely interesting.

one more thing!

perez hilton is trash. absolute garbage. and you know he only asked miss cali because of the prop 8 deal, which is unfair.

I think she has the right to feel whatever she wants to feel. I think she could have been more articulate in stating her opinion.  She really said opposite marraige?  Well, at least she was more articulate than Miss North Carolina(?) discussing maps.   I don’t think she should have changed her answer in order to be pollitically correct because on this issue, you are bound to piss somebody off.

I think that homosexuals should have the right to marry.  I don’t agree with her.

@hankisxlove20@xanga - no dear, I WONT change the way I am for you. You are wayy to sensitive, get over it.

As a hetero…Im not offended one bit if anyone shortened it and called me a hetero. As a bisexual, I am not offended one bit if someone called me a bi…….and if im a homo…I wouldnt be either. In fact, homos need to be proud of being called a homo! They are what they are! I coulda sworn there are sayings like….Im here and Im queer..have you?

Yall sensitive ppl need to go cry in a corner by yourselves, grow some thick skin soooomething. If not, youre going to face drama everywhere you turn. Like it or not, sweetie.

Unaccepting person? hehe youre so cute.

of course she has outer beauty… no question about that. But I believe that if she thought about her answer longer… she would of had a more educated response. You can obviously tell that she didn’t have the time to think of a really good response… and I thought she did okay in answering her question. She kind of sounds like a dumb blonde (lol) but, no matter what, she would have stuck to her beliefs… and that ticked the judge off… no questions asked. She was respectful and did not bash the gay/lesbians… so I think that she did not deserve all of the hateful comments she has been getting… I mean common now… she did not think of this question to ask herself! lol… the judge was very wrong to even ask that question in the first place… what a douche bag.

She is fine in saying what she wanted to say. Perez Hilton’s gay ass (literally) obviously was expecting to get a different answer out of her. Why would he even ask that? BECAUSE HE IS A FLAMING GAY MEDIA WHORE HOMOSEXUAL!!!! He needs to shut up and leave Miss California alone. She had every right to say what she did because it was what SHE felt and he asked her a question, and she answered it honestly. YOU GO MISS CALIFORNIA.

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - I do not follow the Bible, but the Qu’ran, and I truly agree with your words!

Props to her for standing up to speak about what she believes in. Must have taken a lot of courage to answer that question in all honesty.

@ambercucumber@xanga - Thank you,

Would you want a politician to lie to you to get votes? No.
She was honest, apologetic, and stood her ground. That was a hard question to answer, I bet if you asked Miss North Carolina that she would stumble as well.

I’m alright w/ Gay Marriage. It should be legalized. I understand the religious belief – and it isn’t only a Christian belief by any means – and those who believe that it is only for a man and woman are entitled to that belief.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - please, save the childish talk. sweetie? i think you’re the one that needs to grow up here.

i wasn’t trying to start anything. hetero obviously doesn’t have the same negative connotation as homo does. i was just trying to respect the feelings of otherswhich is the NICE and RESPECTFUL and MATURE thing to do, even if the rest of the world doesn’t do it.

i’m sorry if you don’t see it that way.

@XxFireXboltxX@xanga - agreed : )

I really respect her for sticking up for her beliefs. I don’t think its right for a beauty pageant to judge her on her opinions. it should only be about *how* she answered the question, like the structure and flow. but she spoke her mind and gave her truthful opinion. I dont see any need for perez to bash her.

@hankisxlove20@xanga - Aww sweetie, did I hit a nerve Again?
Why must you resort to saying “grown up”? Thats so lame…..not even the point of our conversation. Its like, youre saying that b/c you have nothing else to say.

As you can tell, I dont care if homo has a negative connotation or not. YOU think its a negative thing therefore making it a bad thing. What did I tell you about “Im here and Im queer”? Its all about how people view it. People like YOU are giving homo a bad meaning. Those Queers who come out saying that phrase are Proud of it.
Word of advice darlin’ >>> the world doesnt need you to protect or save them. Homos, gays and lesbos, have the strength and attitude to take care of themselves. By you trying to protect them is only shunning them. Ever thought of it that way?

Since I feel like enlightening you today, Ill give you another example aka lesson. ::smirks::
Among the majority…ppl think fat girls are unattractive, right? Those who are fat…..might feel sad, depressed, embarassed, have low self-esteem and what not.
However…..look at black girls. They are Proud! They are bold and they flaunt it. Dont they not? They dont give a hoot and dress as revealing as they want. They dont care that “fat” has a negative connotation. They are what they are and they accept it.
Do you understand, young grasshopper?

I like how she says, “No offense”, and then she supports discrimination.

She doesn’t support equal rights.  That’s offensive.  So, don’t say, “No offense”.

i actually thought that she handled that question really well. it is THE hot button of all controversial subjects, and she stayed true to herself, and she still managed to say that it was perfectly fine for gays to marry. it just wast her personal belief. where was she wrong? i dont get it. 

I think it was an inappropriate question.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - I agree with you. *smiles*

@awokenfatality@xanga - In response to yr “I loved when TLC held their special on it and they all agreed that sex after marriage was the only thing to be advocated, but when ask who was still a virgin not one of them raised their hands.”

Those who raise their hands, they will be told that “hey you’re still a virgin, you know nothing about how that moment comes”

This world expects too much for a Christian. No matter what he/she has done, that can be challenged with another angle of view.

shes gorgeous, their all gorgeous.

when perez hilton thought of the question, he should have known she would express her own opinion about gay marriage.  everybody thinks differently and i dont think what ms. california said was wrong cause shes entitled to her own opinion plus she even said “no offense”.  shes not out to anger anybody, she just expressed what she thought about gay marriage…like the judge asked.  he asked she answered.  plain and simple.  america is about freedom…of speech.  people make such a big deal cause its gay marriage and shes ms. california.  its no big deal.  stop making a mountain out of a molehole.

by the way, i respect what the post says.  i dont think its right nor wrong cause its how the author views the whole thing.  who am i to say its wrong.  its “wrong” cause its different from what i think??? now that would be wrong. 

@whynotrye@xanga - I would like to ask how to be “no offence” when I wanna voice out my own beliefs? That’s really a question in my head. I am a christian and whenever ppl ask if I HATE homosexual ones, I replied I don’t and I just disagreed with their behaviours or life styles ( sorry, I cann’t find a proper English word to describe). But when they know I sign my name in against corrective rapes in Africa, they start to re-think and re-look at me, a christian.

While homosexual have their civil right to voice out their support to same sex marriage, can Christians’ civil right to voice out our concerns or even opposition to same sex marriage? I think as law is constructed to protect the maximium benefits of majority, everyone’s voice should be heard.

@Aminda@xanga - That’s not true. If they would have raised their hand it would show that sex after marriage works but them themselves are testaments that it doesn’t. It is a fail program that it advocates end up having more pregnancies and contracting a greater number of STDs then those who have real sexual education.

Sex education that does not advocate for a lifestyle of sexual promiscuous. The first thing they tell you is the best contraceptive is abstinence, but if you are going to do it here’s the smart way to go.

The world expects to Christians just how your book makes you.

@Aminda@xanga - The problem with that is that your punishing other people from human rights that other have for your opinion. Like some have said, “Leave them alone already, they have done nothing to you.” Back before the civil right movements, majority thought that a marriage between a black and white was immoral and a spit to God’s face. Just because the majority think they know what is right for the minority doesn’t make it.

The law isn’t for the majority, it is for everyone and how it affects every person.

@awokenfatality@xanga - I agree with your point “Sex education that does not advocate for a lifestyle of sexual promiscuous. The first thing they tell you is the best contraceptive is abstinence, but if you are going to do it here’s the smart way to go.”

According to my experience in encountering the similar questions like if you have sex b4, i said no and then those people will just said “ah… that’s why you know nothing” or ” but there thousands of people who have done that already” and blah blah blah…

On certain ground, i do agree that no sex b4 marriage is kinda painful (coz everyone has sex drive) . I would not say those who are unmarried and non-virgin christians Fail their God. Please allow me to use one more analogy, sometimes people advise not because they did greatly for their advice but they failed in another way and they thought this way turned out to be the “best”.

@awokenfatality@xanga - I agree with the statement “The law isn’t for the majority, it is for everyone and how it affects every person.”

however in reality, can you name me one country with its current system that the law satisfy every signal one?

And thanks for your information about “Back before the civil right movements, majority thought that a marriage between a black and white was immoral and a spit to God’s face. Just because the majority think they know what is right for the minority doesn’t make it.”  Even Christians were killed in Roman Empire time.

My point is we all want law works for everyone but in reality , it does not. Keeping the opinion on both sides is very essential. We cannot label others as discriminative while they just present their opinions. Lets say, i am not a lesbian and same-sex marriage can bring no direct benefits to me but in discussing this issue, both sides are trying finding a common ground.  In HK, there was a debate about domestic violence (sth like should the charge based on a “family” unit). Maybe one day, we find that we can have a more tolerant and accepting ground after we understand and hear the opposite party. yeah, that sounds utopia but mutual understanding and willing to accept are the keys for issues invloves discrimination and religion.

do you think so?

@awokenfatality@xanga - absolutely!

@Aminda@xanga - I have no issues with people waiting. It’s their personal business and they can do with it as they please. It annoys me when others pressure you into loosing it just because it is the “normal” thing to do and not what is right for the individual. I myself still hold it, I don’t know if I’m going to wait for marriage but I rather have it be with someone I love and with one sex partner. I don’t do it because of religion, as I am agnostic, but I know what is the right choice for myself. We all have our reasons wether to keep it or loose it.

So many people regret their first time because they should have waited and not just given into the temptations. Which is hard to do as you’ve stated.

@Aminda@xanga - Of course, there is no perfect country and there will probably never be it but we must strive for it. The gay community is far too big for us to ignore and growing even stronger as people aren’t so afraid to come out.

I am aware of the Roman Empire, which later on the Roman Empire embraced Christianity and became the official religion of Rome. The Vatican City is of course located in Rome itself, the heart of the Catholic denomination.

I think so, I do believe that in order for one to understand their side they also have to understand the other side. For if they don’t, they are just walking around blindly saying irrelevant things. That is what makes a country and leaders stronger, understanding all the views seeing what is best for everyone as a whole with no bias judgement.

She’s dumb, ugly and dumb. she does not reprensent women or pageant but only stupidity.

By the way, you can be “straight” and advocate same sex mariage… it’s called “understand other people”

These days lovelyish is back in the middle ages..

I think she answered honestly.  I believe she was loving in her answer.  Although I do not agree with her answer.  My mother always said if you don’t want to know the answer do not ask the question.  Mr. Hilton was upset because he didn’t get the answer he was looking for.  He made more of an ass of himself than did Miss California.  She has nothing to be ashamed of, because she was honest.  Honesty is always the best policy even if you piss people off.  I also believe this is a non-story.  We have bigger issues in the world and more time needs to be spent on those more important issues.  I also saw the interview questions of the final five and none of them answered the questions that well.  They seemed to be uninformed and to me that is a bigger issue.  At least California answered her question, some of the other contestants didn’t.  

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - Yeah…too bad God doesn’t exist.

As a pageant queen and representing her state she should be more open-minded, and she could have replied differently, her response showed she’s not smart enough to win, beauty (sth she obviosly has) isn’t everything

@Ailean@xanga - Oh, he exists alright. In fact, I’m staking my life on it. Someone could convince me of many things, but God not existing is certainly not one of them!My life testifies that He lives! I simply couldn’t imagine believing any other way.

@MissSmartHottie@xanga - Actually, her response showed she is smart enough…smart enough to not be a conformist…smart enough to have some integrity and principles for life, and smart enough to know that her soul is of more value than some silly crown! I personally would respect someone that followed their own heart versus someone that followed the crowd,

She can have her own opinion, but for me a Miss is a normal girl -may be more narcissique or thing like that-, so she can’t make me thinking another way. If she think that gay people can’t get married, she has the right to.
 I am for gay marriage (civil marriage in fact, like civil partners in UK). In France  I don’t think That Miss France have to speak about this !

@Ailean@xanga - I personally would respect someone that followed their own heart versus someone that followed the “CROWN“… (crowd).”

I had to add that play on words…it was simpy too good to pass up if I say so myself, lol,  

So just because someone doesn’t agree with you they are less attractive?

She has a right to her opinion and shouldn’t get grief. She didn’t insult people who are gay, just gave her opinion about the legalization of gay marriage.

Normally I don’t use such vulgar language, but Perez Hilton is a dick.

Whatever Miss Cali’s answer is, what matters is how she states and supports her answer. Not only that, but I have a lot of respect for her because of her honesty. I think most people are afraid of being spat on and opposed that they’ll make up a total lie that contradicts their true beliefs, just to make people happy.

Inner beauty loves everyone, despite religious or political opinions.

She clearly has none.

What u say’s completely right. But I think she shud have given her opinion showing more ‘open mindness’ u know… I also respect her for saying what she really thinks though (whether she knew the consequences of her response and not caring about it, or not)

i really like what you have said here
I think she is externally beautiful and shallow (she has been trained to focus on the external so that makes sense). She SHOULD love everyone.
I liked the fact that Perez Hilton said he respected her for standing by her beliefs and not taking her answer back just because of media pressure.
Unfortunately her answer keeps two people who love each other apart. Everyone should be able to express love through marriage. I don’t care who you are. If you think you can fully commit to someone the rest of your life and that that will fulfill you, be my guest.
 There is so much hate in this world. Let people love.

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - I agree with you. I truly commend her for speaking her mind and not just selling out because she wanted the crown. It takes a lot of courage to do something like that. Perez Hilton is the bigot and idiot. He did not have to react like that and he is the one that makes people have all these conceptions of gay people. He doesn’t represent every gay person’s views.

@ElectricHeartbeat@xanga - Thank you, but you know something else? You know how it’s milliseconds from the time the host asks the questions to when the contestant has to respond to the question they ask…they can’t sit there and waste seconds thinking about it as to do so would give you a bad juding, well,…I just wonder if it was so quick that she had no choice but to be honest and just spoke what came to mind, not really thinking about the consequences, had no time to think about it costing her the crown. I mean we assume she did it for integrity purposes, but we have to remember it was so quick, she just popped out the first thing in her head. I SURE hope it was for the right reason. If not, she’s probably hating herself about now, lol. But I guess what is most important is no matter what provoked her to give that wonderful response, she did! We’ll have to leave God to knowing her heart for anything past the response she gave. He knows her heart!

I believe she could have chose better wording.  She also seemed a bit contradictory as some people have pointed out.  She said to be “biblically correct” but there are so many issues with that, depending on which part of the bible you are looking at and how literally you are taking it.  Though of course I believe you shouldn’t be picking and choosing what to advocate if you are choosing to advocate against another person’s right.  Marriage that people are fighting for rights for has nothing to do with the bible, they are fighting for all the state issued rights that come with the legal document that says you are married.  If marraige was religious, and only in the sense of bible based marriage, then my husband and I wouldn’t be married.  I’m an Ecclectic Pagan, and he’s an Agnostic, we did not get married in a church and we family member who is ordained through a non-denomination church perform the ceremony.  We have all of the legal documention and the rights that come with marriage, yet we didn’t even have to step foot in a church.
Anyway I got a little away from that, she’s entitled to believe it’s wrong, and she can advocate to keep gay marriage out of her church.  She can also advocate her right to marry a man, I just don’t believe she should be standing in the way other people.  Of course she has a right to discriminate I just thing there were better ways of wording her opinion without being quite so offensive.  Of course I know she doesn’t have a lot of time to thing about her answer and I suppose she’s just not good with thinking on her feet, at least on this topic.  I understand it hard but sometimes you talk with out thinking to much and you have to live with the consequences, and sometimes those consequences are even greater when you are in front of a camera.

@Peachass@xanga - I really like what you wrote here, well said.

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As for the truth on gay marriage, gay marriage along with EVERY sin is condemned by God. Those that die in their sin will go to hell.Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O
generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? -Luke 3:7Jesus Christ is coming
back and based on your fruit, why is it only focused on natural man?
You should be thinking upon your soul and if you were to die tonight,
would you end up in hell or with the only man we need: the Lord Jesus
Christ!

Would
you consider yourself a good person?Do
you think you’ve kept the Ten Commandments and 2 Commandments? Psalm 119:96

I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is
exceeding broad.          (1)
When
you tell a lie, you are a ____ (i.e. liar)?            (2) When you hate someone or kill
someone, you are a ____ (i.e. murderer)?(3)
When you look after a person to lust after her in our heart or to desire him or
her, we are a(n) ____ (i.e. adulterer at heart, adulterer)?Matthew 5:28

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in
his heart.(4)
When you create a god in our own heart that we think that God loves us
unconditionally or will not send a professed Christian/unsaved to hell, you are
a(n) _______ (i.e. idolaterer)? Mark 10:18

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none
good but one, that is, God.When you are a:

• Sodomite (homosexual, bisexual, lesbian, gay)

• Transgender

• Transsexual

• Adulterer (adultery)

• Prostitute

• Masturbator (Masturbation)

• Calling yourself a Christian and you commit any of these sins willfully

• Sinner (pre-marital Kissing and touching, marrying the divorced, 3(+)somes,
divorce, phone sex, oral sex, pornography, having pre-marital sex, drinking,
lying, cursing, using His name in vain, MORE sins…)Judgment:
If God were to judge you by the 10 Commandments, would you be guilty or
innocent?If
Judges would let a rapist or murderer go scot-free despite breaking the
country’s laws, what would we think of that judge?  If we would think that an earthly judge is corrupt, why would we
think that God will let US escape if we murder someone in our heart, tell false
prophecies, lie, etc without repenting? 
If some fathers get angry at breaking some laws, why do we think that we
escape from the great and Almighty God? God MUST bring idolaterers to hell, to
justice.  He must execute judgment.  God cannot make excuses or justify
anyone.  We must be humble and honest
about our sin as He convicts us.  YOU ARE
GUILTY IF YOU BREAK ONE POINT OF THE LAW. 
James 2:10 says, “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all”.      Destiny-Would
you go to heaven or hell?

The new order
of the gospel is 1) believe in Jesus; 2) ask Him to forgive your sins and come
into your life; and 3) He will change you.

The
gospel is no longer: 1) Repent without excuses and believe the gospel of Jesus
Christ; 2) Confess without excuses; 3) God will forgive your sin and come into
your life; 4) Be baptized; 5) Walk with Him in newness of life (deny/die to
ourselves, take up our cross daily, and follow Jesus Christ); and 6) Continue
to seek God diligently. ___________________

This whole issue angers me. That QUESTION is controversial, NOT her answer. If a question like that is asked, then people must be prepared for it to be answered either way. They must be ready to accept that they won’t like the answer. In my opinion, that question should have never been asked at a beauty pageant.

On the basis of principle, think of even this website. “Summer Scarves: Hot or Not?” Doesn’t the person who asked the question expect to receive responses of both “Hot” AND “Not”?

I am not going to focus on whether or not gays should be allowed to marry, that is not truly the issue.(However, I will say I think EVERY person must have equal rights under the law, but marriage is a specific word (as opposed to civil union, partnership, relationship, what have you) and I believe that the definition of marriage is the union of a man and a woman under law and under God) 

The real issue here is allowing people the unalienable right to stand by their beliefs without fear. Yes, Miss California is beautiful. She is a person of integrity and not just a contestant trying to say what the judges want to hear in order to win.

my best friends mom is gay and i love her to pieces but that doesnt mean that i have to agree with her stance on gay rights. i believe marriage is between a man and a woman and that doesnt make me a homophobe. i just hate what this country is coming to. people are automatically bashed for their opinions if they dont line up with liberal stances. and she was asked for her opinion. and she gave it. i dont think she deserved any ridicule at all. with all the stuff she knew she was about to enter when standing up for her beliefs she has more balls than rick warren and the editor of newsweek combined and then some.

I think that everyone has a right to an opinion, it’s the use of the term “opposite marriage” and her saying that we live in a country where people can choose, which is not true, that bothered me.  The question itself said that only a few states allow that, and her saying that all Americans have that choice made her sound a little ignorant to me.  Not that this issue gets me that incited, but her response could have been better worded.  I’ll give her props for having the guts to be honest, and I think Perez could have been more graceful about the whole thing.   

@Aminda@xanga -You have every right to be offensive.  If you say to someone, “Because of who you are, you do not deserve the same rights as someone else”, that’s your prerogative.  I will not begrudge free speech to anyone.  But to say that it’s not offensive is disingenuous.  In fact, when she said “No offence…”, means she thought it might offend.  A better way to say would have been to say, “I know it will offend, but…”

@whynotrye@xanga - I get your point. Thank you for sharing.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - Haha, so it seems that you have nothing better to do than attempt to bitch out a fellow xanga member with a differing opinion. You must have quite the life going for you!  I don’t need to be “enlightened”, but thanks anyway.

Oh, and it appears you can’t write either. Capitalizing random words in the middle of sentences? Now that’s a sure sign of a literate person. Ha.

Wow this is a large bitchfest on multiple levels.
People argueing over someone who truely does not even matter and does not even stand for the american woman
All of you just need to shut up.
and all this religion bullshit is retarded as well.
EVERYONE BELIEVES DIFFERENT SHIT STOP TRYING TO THINK YOUR THE ONLY ONE WHO IS RIGHT. CAUSE SOMEONE HAS TO BE WRONG!!!
I even heard someone stereotyping black women??
Come on… everyone knows that was completely irrelevant
On the subject
Her answer… was fine people are going to believe what they want
The way she said it… was kind of not so great…
I don’t think it was a bad question. I don’t even think it was a hard question.
The question was about the states approving gay marrige.,… nothing about the homophile population (which is the correct way to say “same sex” by the way)
She could have easily said. “I think we should let the states decide its the peoples choice” And be done with it.
Do I think her answer was wrong… no… do I find it closed minded yes. Just because you are straight bi or gay does not mean you have to be disrespectful to one another. Accept that people are happy in their lifestyle just as they accept that you are happy in yours.
People it is the year 2009 there are so many homophile couples. It is time to get over this. People want to be happy. And if their happiness truely lies with someone the same sex as them I am not going to stop them or tell them that their happiness is wrong.
It is wrong to judge people. So stop it. Its the same thing with interracial marriges, racism and abortion. People will believe what they want. doesn’t mean you have the right to push your beliefs on them.

I am so overwhelmingly surprised at how many people really agree with her answer. I think she answered a question that can have no wrong answer, well, WRONG! There are so many other ways that she could have said what she wanted to, but she chose to say it in a way that belittled people. And I think it’s funny that people are getting so upset with Perez and saying he targeted her, umm, the questions are written BEFORE the pageant and she picked his name out of a fishbowl. He didn’t pick her. And the fact that she is sitting there talking about what the bible says really makes me laugh. I can guarantee 100% that this girl has done things that go against the bible. And whatever happened to seperation of church and state? The LGBT community isn’t asking for the right to get married in a church, they want a Civil Marriage. Through the courts, so that they can have all of their rights, the same way heterosexuals do. I think it’s sad that this is such a big deal. I know I wouldn’t want people voting on MY right to marry the person I love, just because they don’t like it doens’t mean that I love that person any less and don’t want to marry them. It just shows that America has only come SO far and sadly, as much as the majority of these answers are perfectly fine, there are still so many biggots. Just so sad.

We’re all able to speak our minds and she decided to stick with her beliefs and sacrifice the crown, but at least she stayed true with herself.  I don’t believe in what she said since I have the opposite view point on the matter but at least she didn’t win the crown over false pretenses.  She probably could have worded her answer better to not alienate people against her and to sound more like a politician, don’t actually address the question, just beat around the bush until people don’t remember what they asked. Haha

CA definitely stood by her beliefs, which of course people are entitled to. But the troubling thing is her beliefs are deeply flawed and she is responsible for that. To believe in something just because your parents believed it and it is “how you were raised” is not a good reason for believing anything. It entails that if your parents believed in practicing something morally atrocious, you would be ok with it.

@ElectricHeartbeat@xanga - agreed!! you took the words outta my mouth1

I love how everyone’s being very analytical on what she said, and the how the reasoning behind her beliefs is “not smart”

I just hope that the judges that night were had the brains to analyze and were not judging on her beliefs. and by what Perez has said.. it gives me the feeling that he judged by the obvious… disapproving her because of her beliefs.
I agree with Miss California, however, I believe she can be more articulate with her answer. I mean, c’mon.. just what is opposite marriage??

Utah was hotter.

As for Miss California’s comment, I completely disagree with her, but Perez is behaving like a brat. 

Perez is being a brat because he just wants others to tell him being gay is okay because if more people don’t tell him this, then it must seem to him that it’s not okay.

Miss California just said what she believed in. What’s this about isolating gays? She would have isolated them if she had said, “Yes! All you gay people are SINNERS! YOU’RE ALL EVIL!!” But she didn’t.

And Repent_or_Likewise_perish, you need to think for yourself, not point to random shit in the bible!

I believe it was her opinion and I don’t mind that she wasn’t as articulate as most people would have liked. She stood up for what she believed in and I don’t think she was insensitive to anyone else’s beliefs. People need to get over themselves and suck it up. We’re allowed to have different opinions and voice them. She is beautiful. 

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - I’m sure God wouldn’t mind if you kept your opinions to yourself.
And i doubt he smiles at someone on national television saying that she thinks we should disallow people from marrying, even if they are completely in love with and devoted to one another.
I think you + i must have very different Gods, or something.

I agree with the author of this blog.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - You’re totally right! “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me!”

YES THEY CAN. Words can stab like ten thousand knives into a soul that’s been beaten and trampled on for their entire lives. How can you outright insult someone, bring them down, and hurt them like you’ve never known and then say “you just need to grow thicker skin.” That’s like shooting someone in the chest and saying, “I’m not going to change my behavior for you. You should be wearing bulletproof armor all the time or at least just suck it up and not be in pain when I shoot you.”You need to open up your mind. You need to have some respect for your fellow human beings.

While I agree with Perez Hilton and gay marriage, of course… I also do not think poorly of her for stating what she believed.. However, I do not think she lost based purely on the fact that she does not agree with gay marriages and Perez Hilton was one of the judges. I think Ms. Arizona won, question or not. 

I think her answer made her the most beautiful girl there. It made her more beautiful beyond her physical appearance. I am so proud of her for saying something that is unpopular. That takes a lot of guts. 

uh.
who cares?
it’s just a pageant blonde. seriously.

shot. dead.

@bekaaahblastoff@xanga - I guess we do have different Gods because the one I serve says homosexuality is an abomination.

And I’m not even going to comment to your comment about God not minding if I kept my opinions to myself except to say this…I will pray for you,

Have a beautiful day!

The reason why I don’t like her response is because now her words can be used as a protest against gay marriages.  She can become a vessel, an iconic vessel used to keep gay marriages banned.  It’s not the fact that she voiced out her opinion, she’s very well entitled to it, but I think that she could have said it better. like:  I don’t personally believe in same sex marriages but if that’s what other individuals want, then so be it.  (off the top of my head)

I’ve seen many comments go back and forth here, but I think we’re missing the point, because it’s more than just her voicing her opinion.  What if she said that she believes that marriage was to only be between a man and a woman of the same race, then what would we all collectively think?  it’d still be her opinion.

think about it.

I understand where she’s coming from while stating her own opinion and that she was saying what she believed in. BUT I think if i want a beauty queen representing my country, i want her to represent and accept ALL of my country and not alienate the LGBT community. She lost my respect.

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - true that they don’t get a lot of time to answer, but they are coached to deal with that and to think on their toes.

I don’t agree with her opinion at all, but sure she has the right to it.

I think she’s an idiot regardless.
Yes her answer lost her the crown…because her answer regardless of her opinion was fucking retarded.

“Opposite marriage?” wtf?

I think some of the questions were inappropriate for a beauty contest. Having said that, she should have the right to share her views without penalty as to the content, but only as to the delivery of her point of view.  Our country is still dealing with the conflict between pro-choice and pro-life. We are also dealing now with the issue of pro-marriage for gays and pro-marriage for straights. These conflicts are unavoidable and will never go away. It is due to the conflict of competing value systems.  

Reading these responses makes me sad…I can’t believe some of them. Being homophobic is just as bad as being racist…you’re denying ordinary people of everyday rights. I can’t believe how many people on here don’t seem to understand that.

I agree with you on how she should answer differently.  I respect her decision 100% but she probably doesn’t realized that her words hurt others people, especially those who had been attacked just because they’re gay.  Those kind of statement might increase in these attacks.  It’s okay to have your own decisions, just make sure you don’t harm anyone in the process of doing so.  She should say something about those attacks, how they’re wrong as well.  I mean, just don’t harm other people, people! Is it so hard?  

@just_melmel@xanga - You’re probably right!I just like thinking she didn’t stop to weigh it, just stated her heartfelt opinion…I believe she did, !

On one hand, it annoyed me slightly. But on the other hand, I’m glad she didn’t try to please people by saying “Oh, of course! I think it’ll be great if we legalized gay marriages.” and instead stated her own thoughts.

Nice job, Miss CA. Oh and, don’t wear so much eye shadow next time.

Beautiful as in full of makeup?  Ehhh I’ve seen better.

I didn’t see the entire pageant, but I did watch during that part.

What detracts from her beauty in my eyes, and make her look stupid, is what she said afterward: if she hadn’t had that question she would have been won.

Puh-leaze!

She can’t be that hot or she would have uh WON THE PAGEANT. If i was her I would have said that I love the queerpoles in order to win, but that’s just me. 

@NorCal_ish@xanga - ooh, good wording. I applaud you for it, haha.

I mean, really, do they expect her to lie or something? -_- Sometimes…
people can be such hypocrites.

I think if Gays want to get married, then they ought to be allowed to.  Maybe at a court house or something like that, but not in a church. 

I responded with it on my blog – but not really to do with what she said, but more of the backlash she’s receiving.

Basically, she is thrown tons and tons of intolerant attitude (from Perez, obviously) from those who decry intolerance. Ironic, much?

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga - I agree with this gook and it’s good to hear a gook speak up with such blunt honesty. Gooks sometimes do that whole polite thing and I like the fact this little gook just speaks her mind without thinking. Well done gook!

As for miss California, she stated an opinion which I don’t necessarily agree with, but is she not allowed to state an opinion?
As the gook (oOBuBBLes711Oo) demonstrated, in America people can express themselves however they want and use whatever language they please no matter how absolutely offensive it is to others. Of course, in doing so they have to accept that others might object, but as the gook proved, that’s the nature of free speech.
Personally I think it’s great that Miss California lives in a country where she can enter a competition where we get to look at her in a bikini and not some hideous ’modest’ garbage.

Perez Hilton acted like an idiot in response to that whole ordeal.

If I remember correctly, she was asked if SHE THOUGHT states should follow suit and legalize same-sex marriage.  Perez Hilton asked her what she personally thought about the issue, and she stated her personal opinion.  There was no malice, no hatred, no harshness in her words.  You can love everyone without having to approve of everything they do.  I love my entire family, but I don’t like everything they do. 

It does seem that liberals are the only ones who get to state their opinions freely these days without having a backlash.  What does Perez Hilton even do?  Gossip about celebrities?  I’m all for Carrie Prejean…she rocks. 

i’m for gay marriage. but i was kind of shocked by everyone’s reaction at her answer…until my sister informed me that the answers are supposed to be non-controversial, and hers was based on opinion.  it bums me out that she’s against gay marriage, but that doesn’t mean i don’t think she’s pretty.  not everyone can be on the same page. 

I don’t think she’s beautiful at all.

meh, she wasnt rude or anything, she just said what she thought. i definitely disagree with her opinion 100% though. i just watched the interview. she talks to god in her head? that’s a bit um .. out there.

If you don’t agree with someone and you don’t want to “express love” for them anyway, I don’t think you should have to.  Besides, I really doubt anything would have changed if she had said she doesn’t support gay marriage but hey, she loves gays anyway.  Perez Hilton is the one who is 100% in the wrong here:  Don’t ask a question if you don’t want to hear an honest answer.

i think it was wrong that she lost because of her personal beliefs. They shouldn’t have asked such a politically explosive question. Regardless of whether or not the pageant claims the girls’ personal beliefs doesn’t effect their scores, when someone’s worldview clashes with another, there will be a distortion of how the two people view one another.

What ever happened to generic questions? ”What is the one thing the world needs?” “World peace.”

@RandomxBlinkingxLight@xanga - how can the answer be non-controversial of the question is ridiculously controversial??  I’m not gonna say whether or not I agreed with her, because to me that doesn’t matter. What I’m ticked about is that when she was asked her opinion on a HUGE issue, and she gave it, and now she is being punished.

@XbabyK@xanga - I totally agree. Hilton screwed up, not Miss Cali. He asked. She answered. Simple as that. But she is the one taking the heat for it.

she gave her opinion– & that is what she believes. I see nothing wrong with that at all. Why should she have to “conform” to anything else? If she was for same-sex marriage, she would have said so. Would you get such an uproar if she did approve? Probably not. I think she is being treated unfairly, especially comments by offended people. It just shows ugly demeanor. I highly doubt as a “sensitive” issue as this, that she was trying to offend anyone. It’s her beliefs, and she isn’t going to let other people manipulate her into saying what they want to hear. Good for her !

…And I wouldn’t be SURPRISED if she was asked this question on PURPOSE. You probably know ahead of time where girls stand on spiritual/religious matters, and low-and-behold, the “Christian” girl gets asked this question and BAM, now she’s a horrible person bla bla bla bla…. he knew what she’d say, and now he’s being all dramatic and over-the-top. It’s people like THAT who disappoint me by their behavior and lack of LOVE there!

i myself also do not believe in gay marriage, and i believe that she answered the question as best she could. the question was one of opinion, and she stated her opinion, which is what she is supposed to be.

i dont agree with her stance, but people are just pissed off cause they expected her to say one thing and she said something else. the woman can have an opinion and i respect that she was okay enough to say it outloud.
also, lulz at “opposite marriage”

i just want to also comment on when they talked about the prizes the winner would get …clothes, makeup–things for her outward image. what happened to the scholarship program they had? that was the only redeeming quality to the miss america pageant. oh wait, they did give a scholarship to an acting school–oh so wait, shes gotta be an actress, she cant use it to go be, oh i dont know, a DOCTOR, a LAWYER, something PRODUCTIVE? im not saying that actors cant be productive..but she can only use it for acting school, not where she wants. irks me, ugh.

This made me a little angry, both being a girl from California and the fact that the question shouldn’t have been asked in the first place (Perez Hilton gets on my nerves… he needs to grow up). One other judge said the question should not have been asked, and I agree. But even then, the question is an opinion question. There is no right or wrong answer. Miss CA should probably have said things differently so that it may be more “sensitive to everyone”, but she shouldn’t be punished because of her beliefs. Perez got pissed and he openly stated his opinion. Miss CA simply did the same.

I personally think the question should not have been asked in the first place. I don’t think it was fair that she ended up getting the most controversial question out of the bunch. Even if she had supported the rights for gays to marry, I think she still would have been doomed. Her fate was sealed as soon as the question was delivered.

hey..at least you can give her a hand for being honest.
i wudnt make someone beleive something that was a total lie…just to keep all the parties happy.
i wudnt give a deep and confusing answer so that no one will bring up the topic and try to find out what i actually think about it.
i would not give out an answer so intelligent that people have trouble understanding it…
i will not lie to myself as i lie to them..because one day…people would know the truth and they’d hate me for it..no matter how much they liked me before they found out.
if the poeple like me…they should like the real me..not some phony act. they’d better know the truth about things..before hand.
i guess the girl did okay. it is a hard thing to do..pleasing everyone..people will get tired of it easily…that’s exactly why politicians fall hard.

It was a legitimate question. A hot topic in America so stop whining about how the question is inappropriate. Should we only ask them why they think the sky is blue?

I guess can we really expect more from a pageant contestant? Being dumb and ignorant makes her ugly. End of story.

First of all, I think gay marraige should be legal. 

I missed the broadcast of the pageant but I was appalled to learn Perez Hilton was a judge.  Completely biased, he lashed out at Miss California in his silly blogs because she didn’t spoon-feed his ego.

“Miss California’s response lacked sensitivity to people with different beliefs than hers”

-She can’t appease everyone.  Perez asked for her opinion and she delivered it. 

O_O

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - Awesome, thanks!
+You too

@bekaaahblastoff@xanga - :)

Fucking hell, not all of us give a flying shit about this crap, therefore give full background if you want a response. Was she for or against gay marriage? Fucking give all the info.

Plus, regardless of for or against, everyone knows those hos only got 2 braincells anyway, so it’s not like any of them are going to have a very informed or detailed opinion on anything at all ever.

First of all, Perez Hilton was the one who introduced the topic, not Miss California.  From what I saw, Miss California was polite and nonconfontational throughout her response, and she gave an honest answer.  Just becuase it wasn’t the answer this self-important nobody wanted to hear, he couldn’t handle it, and he proceeded to score her so low that it probably cost her the title.  Not only that, but Hilton then proceeded to trash her on several news programs the next day.

And he accuses her of being intolerant?

@JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga - but thats just it; she should have thought about it for a second before she answered.  We all know what a tough question that is, i’m pretty sure if she showed a little more thoughtfulness before she answered, she would have given a better response that would have been more respected.  but then again i could just be giving her too much credit…

@just_melmel@xanga - Honestly, my friend made a good point this morning…I think us Christians at least perhaps are giving her too much credit because as He pointed out (remember I didn’t watch it, see the bathing suit competition), etc. All I heard about was her question response, lol), we’ve yet to see where any Christian had a problem with her bathing suit portion probably causing thousands of men to lust all over the place, lol. Now, to sounding to judge, but IF she was giving her question comment based on a God-basis if you will, seems to me for the bathing suit competition, she as well would have had conviction and would have worn culots (sp?, those pant-like clothing that go down to your knees), right?

Yep, on second thought, I just think she knew she had to pretty much answer immediately and just rolled what was on her tongue. I think it was more of a “I was raised that way” comment versus a “I’m standing up for God” comment, honestly I do.

@liljunebug28@xanga - that was my question exactly: how can you answer a controversial question non-controversially (or whatever)? i guess if you can’t, then you don’t win =/

Why were they asking that question in the first place ? I was really surprised that they even asked it …it doesn’t seem like the type of question they would even ask at a pageant.. or maybe that’s just me .
 Anyways I think is so freaking stupid that people are getting so worked up over this ! It wasn’t hate speech at all and she was very respectful and kind with her answer. Everyone has the right to state an opinion in this country or do we? The backlash that she got was ridiculous. Some people nowadays are so closed minded that’s not even funny…dumb asses

I cannot for the life of me figure how something so inane as a person’s belief can get so overworked by the media. She has every right to believe that a marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman. I believe the same. But in this country, you really do have the right to believe any way you wish. So why does everyone belive that she is either right or wrong??? She voiced an opinion (again…one I believe wholeheartadly to be correct), and now has become a true figurehead for the rightwing and a terrorist to the liberal “gay” faction. Here is the end of it…WHO CARES! Why did all of this spark such a controversy when our country is going down the tubes financially?? Or maybe there is something to this> Maybe because we are doing and ennacting laws that are for homsexuality there is a correlation between the erosion of our moral standpointe and the state of the nation today. Remember..this is One Nation Under God…not under lawless anarchy that allows for things to continue to get worse, never better in sexual morals, and unbeliefs. But then,,,who am I to say. Not many will probably read this anyway..but Jesus is still the answer for the worls today..Nuff said.

@oOBuBBLes711Oo@xanga were you not the first one to start this? Just shut up, she schooled you.

There’s no wrong when it comes to individual’s opinion.
She has been asked the question and it’s up for her to give out her opinion. And honesty is one of the key to hold the beauty inside yourselves.

“When a gay wants your opinion, he’ll give it to you.” I mean, honestly, ask for someone’s opinion, and then call them a “stupid bitch” cause they give it to you? She was almost apologetic when she gave it — how could you be any more sensitive? It’s a scary time in any time period and in any country when any dissension is silenced. One quote I read was: “She should learn to voice her opinion in a way that doesn’t offend anyone.” How stupid can you be? Where’s the freaking “diversity” in that statement? I get really bored of having discussions where people agree with me all the time. I like challenge. I welcome disagreement and discourse with intelligent, thinking people, because it makes me think, and grow, and change, or become more convinced of the things I believe, and it also helps others to think and grow too. It’s hardly diversity when the only opinion one can have, is the one the majority agrees with.

In my opinon, I think it should be legal for gays to marry, but I don’t really see a problem in the way she expressed her beliefs.  She attempted to be inoffensive to homosexuals, I mean how else would see say her particular beliefs without hiding the meaning of her words?  Plus I think it was biased question for Perez Hilton to ask because no matter how see expressed what she believed in he would be offended (simply because she disagreed with his views). 

I think she’s pretty, skinny, whatever (I’d like to look like her) but I think the fact that she expressed her actual beliefs was moving and powerful.  Even though I disagree with that particular view I think the strength she had to say those things makes her a role model.