
There was a student in one of my classes who was from China. She looked like a mature student, possibly in her late 30s. She immigrated here with her husband. She came to this school because she wanted to learn more about beauty and how to take care of her skin. She has a lot of wrinkles and fine lines, and her skin is very dry and dehydrated.
Sometime during her course of study, she revealed her age to all of us. She was only 23. I have never been so shocked in my life. This woman, not young lady (and I don’t mean to compare her with myself) was even older than me, and her face looked like she was hitting on forty. Curious, I asked her what she uses for her face.
She told me that back in China and where she came from, a lot of women do not know anything about skincare, nor even anything about their skin. Back in China, she felt that her skin was very oily and she hated it. So one day, she saw a washing soap for clothing and used it to wash her face everyday. After she first used it, her face felt dry and tight, and that made her feel so much better and more confident. She continued to use it for three years.
I nearly had a heart attack. I told her that those three years she had been using soap to wash her face, had most likely ruined her life.
Our skin has a normal balanced pH level of 5.0-5.6, which sits on between acidic and close to Neutral. So for this student, who belonged to oily skin, her pH level would of been on 5.7-6.8 (therefore easier for the growth of bacteria).

A hand soap, and especially that of a clothes washing liquid detergent, pH level would be approximately 8-10.0, a strong alkaline. Washing soap is a detergent, therefore it will remove grease and dirt, making clothes and dishes clean. If you try to wash your hands with a washing detergent, you will find that your hands end up feeling very dry, which is the result of the detergent.
Put it this way: washing your face with a washing liquid is murder. It will drain all the oil from your skin, even moisture, leaving your skin pretty much with nothing left. So for a person with oily skin, this may make you feel better for a few hours, but you will realize that the more you use it, the more your skin will turn from oily to dry. And this is where the nightmare starts.
If you’ve read my previous article about “Why Women Will Always Look Older than Men,” I talked about how oily skin benefits better than any other skin type because their face is actually constantly moisturized and nourished with the skin’s natural produced sebum and moisture balance. So if you wash your face with a soap detergent, you take that all away and even the acidity that the skin needs to kill bacteria will be removed. With less and less oil produced on your skin, and moisture balance, your skin becomes thinner, dry, and dehydrated, producing many fine lines.
Fine lines turn into wrinkles. Dry skin will turn to mature skin. Once you have mature skin, there is no turning back.
And so for this lovely student, who is so beautiful, there is nothing she can do now because it is too late (unless she does surgery for collagen, light therapy, or micro-needling).
The only thing she can do now is to maintain and treat her skin as a mature skin would – to continue nourishing and moisturizing her skin as often as possible, and to use skincare treatments like massage, peeling, masks and machines like ultrasound and galvanic.
Please note:
Please do not mistake this article with the soaps that were made specially for cleansing the face, as they are made much more mild and therefore very good in helping to cleanse, and moisturize the face at the same time.
I’ll talk about which types of cleansers work for different skins, but that will be for another article to come. 
Have you ever used soap to clean your face? What products do you use to wash your face?
orchid / 105 posts
I have really oily skin.. I use this grapefruit stuff by neutrogena. It kind of helps with the oil for a few mintues. Then it just comes back.
cherry blossom / 30 posts
i NEVER use soaps..just some cleansening liquid..when i use hand washing liquid soap,i feel how dry it is..i make a point to apply moisturiser on my hands are that too…imagine putting it on my face..i HATE the tight feeling
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i’ve definitely never used [non-facial] soap to wash my face, as i had heard often that regular soap was not good for your facial skin. i have oily skin, but oil hasn’t been my main concern. acne is what i focus on mostly. i use acnefree’s benzoyl peroxide cleanser.
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ok now i will never wash my face with soap again!
orchid / 160 posts
Do the Dove soap bars count? I mean they say beauty bar and that they have a quarter of lotion or something… Anyway, I used that maybe once or twice a year when I’m extremely lazy and don’t feel like reaching for the face wash.
tulip / 13 posts
I have washed my face with hand soap before and it does feel pretty dry and even tight. I have very oily skin and get irritated when I cannot scratch my face without getting grease on my hands. My face can get so oily, you can see little oil drops form. I have to wash or wipe my face more than 2 a day. I mostly use scrubs now since my skin is also very acne prone. They do a good job at keeping my face oil free for a while, then it comes back and I have to wash my face again or wipe it off with a wet napkin or towel.
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I only use shampoo, when it comes to using any sort of soap for my face…because I’m cheap and use one bottle of shampoo for my whole washing experience with showers, heh. Every time else I wash my face, it is simply with water, and I rarely use any kind of soap for my hands (I’m a normally very clean person, even living in the country as I do).
I have somewhat oily skin, but this method works best for me. I learned quickly that any other methods make the battle between oily and extremely dry hell.
As I get older, my skin becomes less oily, so this helps alot.
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“I told her that those three years she had been using soap to wash her face, had most likely ruined her life.”
I’m still trying to get over you saying the above to her, rofl! The poor girl probably needed Prozac after that, lol. I guess I’m not the only blunt, honest person in the world afterall,
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WHO uses soap to wash their face? my gosh
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or rather BRUTALLY honest, lol,
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X__X
dahlia / 2942 posts
i use a cetaphil face wash
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I’m scared now! I sed to do that, but thank GOD I stopped. I feel bad for that woman. That’s terrible. Thank you soooooooooooo much for posting this.
daisy / 565 posts
@HollywoodTragicScene - I have oily skin too!
I use artistry and it work wonders
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I have normal skin. Not too oily and dry on the cheeks. I use Burts Bees Garden Carrot Soap (billed as for mature skin although I don’t have “mature skin”). It is a bar, but I apply it with a facial sponge and always use toner right after, and then a light moisturizer for sensitive skin which is the only one that doesn’t leave my face greasy or breaks it out. I have to admit I was relieved at your disclaimer. The title made me nervous!
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I have normal skin. I l use KOSE’ product line for about 2 years. That’s nice. But i’m ganna try another (People always say don’t keep using the same skincare product for a long time. Sometime having a change is good for skin.) I’m goona try the skincare product of the brand Clinique.
I strongly recommend y’all around 20 to have a try on this:
http://www.kose-hk.com/ep-bko/skin_care.html
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I don’t have bad skin or really overly oily skin, but I LOVE Neutrogena Rapid Clear. It’s fantastic. It lathers just enough to feel like I’m really getting a good clean, and it keeps my face oil-free for HOURS. Plus, it’s pretty cheap!
magnolia / 1030 posts
thanks for the notice!! i didnt know this!! i dont use washing soap, only bath soap (Caresse with lotion), acne soap, or just plain water to wash my face. I hope those are okay!
hydrangea / 57 posts
I like Neutrogena products.
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I rarely use soap of any sort on my face. I had a serious acne problem so i stopped using all the cleansing products i had. Started washing my face with warm water and use a apricot scrub twice a week. Works wonders for me
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I have very oily skin, but I can only wash my face with any kind of facial soap once a day. So I wash my face with special facial soap in the morning, and only splash water on my face at night, otherwise I actually get tooo dry. It works well for me.
@Blessed_Enigma@xanga
I also have super oily skin like that where I get little beads of oil on my skin. I find that if I wear some kind of liquid foundation, it controls the oil and droplets don’t form, it’s almost like the foundation kind of soaks it up.
dahlia / 2012 posts
I use that bluish kind of antibacterial hand soap on my face because nothing else works as well. No facial soaps or other products got rid of my acne, and the hand soap I use doesn’t dry out my face or have any other negative side effects. I don’t see the problem.
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It’s weird.. I almost never use soap (the ones made for the face) to wash my face. & I don’t get pimples. :O
My cousins/ brother on the other hand are always told to wash their face with soap & they have a lot of pimples… I guess I just have good skin? haha.
On the very FEW times I do use soap to wash my face, I use Likas Papaya soap, from the Philippines. Is that even good to use on the face? D:
sunflower / 353 posts
She used a soap for CLOTHING? Wow.
I don’t use soap to wash my face, unless it’s Dove. I have two facial cleansers, one is a scrub that I use once a week (or when my skin feels really gunky) and the other is a cleanser for combination skin that I use daily.
I know how damaging soaps and detergents are to skin, when I hand wash laundry and wash dishes. It’s terrible, so I use gloves whenever I can. I can’t imagine what I would look like if I started using stuff like that on my face!
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I know this is against the point but the bit where you said she had almost ruined her life? Outer beauty isn’t everything and in China women aren’t just valued by their face. No offense, but i’ve been there and personality is a bigger deal than it is in the Western world most of the time.
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@bebop0090@xanga - i agree. the “ruined her life” part may have been a bit too much. i’ve been to china too, and it’s so different than it is here.
i only wash my face with hand soap if i need to. like if i’m going camping and i didn’t bring anything for my face. but usually, i don’t wash my face with soap. water is good enough for me. but after showers i moisturize. every. single. day.
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My Neutrogena foam wash ran out just before Christmas and no one was planning on making a trip to the shops to restock, so I started using hand wash on my face. It was great for a few days, and then my skin started to peel. I stopped using the soap and decided to just use water… safest option, though not as good at keeping spots away. ):
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i use st. ives! it’s very refreshing. i use it once a day and i have this other organic apple one for nighttime.
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I’ve definitely never used non-facial soap for my face. My skin is on the oily side and although I do try to combat the oil, I never completely strip my skin because the dryness and itchiness is much more bothersome than the oil.
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“I told her that those three years she had been using soap to wash her face, had most likely ruined her life.”
I really hope you didn’t phrase it that way! That’s a horrible thing to say to someone.
That being said, I like the information in your article. I used to use regular soap when I was around 10 (Ivory). I then switched to SpectroJel and now I use Cetaphil.
There are exceptions to your story: my mother used to use very harsh soap on her face, but she looks at least 20 years younger than she really is. The key to her youthful looks – she has barely a wrinkle – is religious avoidance of the sun. I mean harsh soap won’t help your cause, but I don’t think it’s a necessary cause-and-effect.
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Mann, thanks for the warning.
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I usually wash my face with just water because I never put on any makeup or anything. I will keep in mind to never wash my face with normal soap…
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i use “shiseido: the skincare purifying cleansing foam” to wash my face and have been using it for years. i swear by it. moisturizing, toner, lotion, suntan lotion and facemasks are just as imporant.
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OMG. Soap can be acceptable but to use laundry soap??
Tell her to use moisturizers with collagen
*Remember that the skin in our face is different from our over all skin. It needs gentle care ^^
hydrangea / 57 posts
I used regular soap once or twice back when my skin was really bad, but now I try not to use anything but water. If my skin feels dirty, I have a makeup removing cleanser that feels more like a moisturizer, but removes impurities. It’s made by Clean and Clear.
I used to use a lot of clean and clear products, but they’re too harsh for combination skin, which is what I have. I use their exfoliating daily was once a week on my oily spots, and that’s good enough for me.
I moisturize every day, either with Nivea Soft or with Clinique Dramatic Difference Moisturizer, or both (morning for one, evening for the other) if my skin is realllly dry (winter months usually).
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I use the bar of soap from Clinique. And as an exfolient, I use baking soda…. it’s gentle and natural! =)
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“I told her that those three years she had been using soap to wash her face, had most likely ruined her life. ”
like some other girls, i feel you acted a tad overreacting when she told you. i mean, yes skin is VERY important, but it’s not the end of the world. or her life for that matter.
orchid / 194 posts
wtf is the point of this? I really don’t think anyone on Lovelyish is stupid enough to wash their face with laundry detergent.
peony / 3 posts
how about if you use dove bar?
cuz I use dove bar to wash my face everyday…
I started last year…I don’t know if I should keep on using it, is it different from other soap, is it good if I keep using it…
Im lost….
–JaeEun<3
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Very informative post. Good read. It’s interesting to see how other people take care of their skin in other places. I never wash my face with soap. My mom always stopped me from doing such a thing. There’s always some kinda’ face washing soap in the house.
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Did you really tell her that she had ruined her life for ever?!


That statement may have been as harsh as the detergent on her face.
I’m older than you too, but I have no wrinkles (yet).
And, oily skin needs to be cleansed daily (sometimes twice) – though not with laundry detergent of course.
I actually GASPED when I read that part!
She can renew much of her youthfulness if she gets a peel and then replenishes with gobs of moisturizers, AND by drinking tons of water a day, too!
I sure hope she gains from our helpful advice!
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“I told her that those three years she had been using soap to wash her face, had most likely ruined her life.”
Dry skin can RUIN your life? That’s a new one.
And 5.0 to 5.6 pH is anything but “close to neutral”. 7.0 is “neutral”… but we need our skin to be more acidic so it can naturally get rid of bacteria.
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So what happend to her? Did she find something to fix her face? I’m curious?
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Question:
so my mom uses dove soap, and other soaps like that on her face. is that going to make her youthfull skin (shes in her late 30′s but everyone says she looks about early 30-20′s) older? or not?
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I could never use soap on my face! Occasionally, I’ll use a bar of Dove, if there is absolutely nothing else available, but my skin always feels so dry even after that.
My normal facial cleanser is Murad Clarifying Cleanser. I love love love it!
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Who looks at a laundry detergent and thinks that it is a good idea to wash their face with it? So it does not surprise me that she screwed herself over at 23. She brought this upon herself.
And why fly all the way to an America university just to learn good skin care? something about this story sounds made up.
Asian girls are known for good skins and being ageless. Apparently, this girl’s self esteem is somewhere in cuckooville.
tulip / 18 posts
I think if she starts using natural things like Aloe Vera Juice, which helps produce collagen, it might get a bit better. Or things like Jojoba oil which help reserve moisture in the skin. You might want to suggest that to her. There is always a natural way of going about things, in my opinion.
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I was thankfully blessed with skin that wasn’t quite so oily. When I wash my face I generally use non scented Dove body wash, it’s not bar soap, it’s the liquid kind. Yes, you can get it the non scented stuff in liquid form too.
However, I have a friend from China here at Heidelberg University with me, and she has amazing skin. She said that in Shanghai (where she’s from) they care a lot for their hair and skin. She’s always giving me the latest product for healthy skin or smooth, stronger hair. I guess these two women, both the same age, come from different parts of the countries?
It’s sort of neat to look at the differences here between everyone. :]
<3
Sisi
orchid / 207 posts
I always use a facial cleanser from Neutrogena. My skin is very sensitive so I wouldn’t use regular soap for my face. Now I know never to use it or it will really ruin my skin.
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The acidity of our skin doesn’t actually kill bacteria. Instead, it favors the growth of normal flora, bacteria and other microbes that are normally reside specifically on our bodies. This inhibits foreign bacteria from growing in the same place (yes, this means that we actually have a commensal relationship with the bacteria growing on our skin).
Water is at a pH of 7 normally. So when you wash your face with water, that would temporarily shift the pH of your skin close to neutral…yet, that doesn’t ’cause foreign bacteria to proliferate.
Anyways, I feel that the dehydrating effects of most soaps are more so due to their detergent effects. Strong detergents are useful for washing dishes, but for washing your face, I’d say stick with a mild detergent that leaves some oils on your skin rather than completely removing them.
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@UnVolume@xanga - haha I’m wondering about the Dove soap bars too. I used it a few times too and my skin didn’t get tight and dry. XD
So…what about Dove soap bars? Could they count as face soap sometimes? XD
dahlia / 2382 posts
I never used soap on my face until December. it was only that once because I left my face wash home on an overnight trip. my skin WAS SO DRY but thankfully I had my moisturizer. I dont think once will ruin my skin but it was enough to tell me not to leave my face stuff again. LOL
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so when you say soaps, Does that include soap that you use to wash your body with?? Agh haha.
Please reply or something
Very good post, btw.
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My skin tends to get really dry real easily.
So, I only use dove soap on my face. It’s the only soap, that helps keep my face really moisturized, feeling fresh, and smelling good!!!
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i use ivory. i don’t think iv had problems.
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ive never used soap thats not nonfacial, and i use biore products
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i ran out of face wash once and was reduced to use my dove bar. for some reason it does wonders to my skin and i hardly ever break out now. i didnt have acne prone skin to begin with but i still had a pimple once in a while. now i rarely ever get a real pimple. im not sure if there will be any side effects and it might be just me so i dont recommend it to everyone.
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i bought this stuff at whole foods called dessert essence thoroughly cleaned face wash. i used to just wash my face with warm water, put some of the face wash on my face and rinse with cold water. after that my skin felt really dry so i use any type of toner and then my mom bought me this clinique lotion so i use that after i use the toner. before i used this stuff i had acne, but now that i’m using these products my acne hasn’t toned down much, and i’ve noticed that when i’m really stressed that’s when my acne gets really bad.
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i just started using the Skin I.D. system. not sure if it makes a difference yet, though.
orchid / 129 posts
I use the same soap and lotions on my face that I use on my butt and my skin looks fine. No break outs or anything. I actually GET breakouts when I use facial stuff, like toners and moisturizers. I often get confused for a teenager when I’m almost 23.
I will admit using harsh stuff will cause damage but I your post almost made it sound like it would be the end of the world! Anyway most of the damage can be reversed with the proper care and time.
daisy / 512 posts
i don’t use any soap to wash my face, i’m too lazy. and i don’t really have pimple problems. my mom used to force me to use acne medication. i hated how dry it made my skin feel.
actually recently i’ve started using facial scrub because my boyfriend uses it and he forcibly puts the stuff in my hand for me to use… haha. but he doesn’t get me often!
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I never use soup for my face. If I don’t have dove face wash, I just wash it with plain water but other than that hell no..
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I use proactive or clinque. Those have always been my two. I have super dry skin, so bad that I use a bottle of face lotion in under a month. I only use special face wash, if I’m traveling and I’m not able to, I just wipe my makeup off, or go and buy some.
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I haven’t used soap to wash my face since I was a child. I just used hot water for a time, then the stuff that supposed to be used on your face. Now I just use ProActiv.
Using a soap for clothing never would have crossed my mind. That just seems like it would just be so harsh to even think of.
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i dont have oily skin..
but i just use dove body soap for my face.. is that okay?..
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does the Dove bar count? =O
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i never use soap. i use proactiv.
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“And so for this lovely student, who is so beautiful, there is nothing she can do now because it is too late (unless she does surgery for collagen, light therapy, or micro-needling).”
aren’t you being over dramatic?
peony / 4 posts
never ever use soap, it is supposed to be used for your body. as for your face it is a lot more sensible therefore you should be using face wash not body wash. i have dry skin but i use artistry and it is the best thing i have ever used. Artistry comes in two different face wash, one for oily skin and one for dry skin. It also made my face whiter, a lot more clear, and less break outs. You might want to get rid of your pimples now but if you want to look good when you get older you would have to start now and take better care of your skin.
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I used to use expensive face wash and non-oily moisturizer and my skin was ok – not great but passable. Now I use an unperfumed bar soap and Astral moisturizer, and old-fashioned Lanolin based cream.
Yes, soap will always make the skin feel tighter, but it gives a better clean (see the clinique website). As long as you add the moisture back again after your skin will be fine. Creams like astral can feel greasy at first if too much is applied, but after it is absorbed you’ll find that it does a much better job than modern, expensive moisturizers which are often mainly water based and evaporate more quickly.
hydrangea / 76 posts
uhh..id like to make a confession here. I used to wash my face with mild shower gel..(LUX)..which didn’t strip my skin of much oil..didn’t leave it feeling tight. It even reduced breakouts
…then i went into recession..i was low on cash..and..the shower gel ran out, eventually. by that time i had a full bottle of Roselyn Hygienic Virginity (intimate) wash..which was anti bacterial and very mild..(its a herbal product..pH is natural)..so i thought it wouldnt hurt…i used that to wash my face instead..been doing so for a week or two…i don’t know..i actually think its good..but up to you lovelies, what do you know about this?
And yeah, I have oily skin, had acne sometime back..now i dont..the marks have almost gone..the ghosts are still there..im convinced they’ll be gone in due time..now i just have a tiny pimple (like micro tiny) before my DTOTM. Girls, Help me out here!!!
Thankx.
peony / 1 posts
Ive recently learned through a friend, what chemicals they use on hight street products such as Dove, Oil of Olay, Garnier, Nivea, Loreal, Neutrogena, even Simple ! shocking ingredients such at petrochemicals along with other harmful ingredients which are very bad for your skin and can actually cause cancer . I swear by natural only products, such as Aveda, Liz Earle and Burt’s Bees, marvelous products, my favourite being Liz Earle.
peony / 1 posts
I used to have problems with my face… I used soap long ago then stoped when I came to Canada. I used Avon products nothing much happend and then I was introduces to Artistry by Amway it made wonders to my Skin… I recommend everyone to try it… It’s magic… and real and wonderful.
Thanks to Artistry I now have wonderfull skin…
Cassandra
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That’s it, I’m not washing my face, no soap no water. Just let it be oily!!
peony / 1 posts
i get rushes on my face when i wash with neutrogena, i have an oily skin. I hate the feel when i apply make up and after 2 hours face is all shiny. what will you recommend. I’ve also developed uneven skin colour on my face.
peony / 1 posts
Saying somebody ruined their life by washing their face with a non-optimal cleanser is hyperbole to the point of comedy. I’ve used normal hand soap to wash my face with for the last ten years (I’m 26); recently switched to a Sisley cleanser and toner. Don’t particularly notice any difference other than it smells nice, my bank balance has decreased and if anything my face is less oily now. Harsh detergents strip oils from the skin and can cause your skin to produce more oil in response. Also the degree of moisture in your skin is superficial and would have minimal effect on skin ageing (unless she actually caused trauma by scouring off the top layer of her skin??).
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What a load of rubbish, maybe for this girl things were bad, I used face was for ages, changing it all the time, I could never find one to clear my awful spots. Then my Mum recomended using liquid hand soap, in 1 week all of my spots have gone and I get complimented on my skin, it does work for some people! As long as I put plenty of moisturiser on my face before bed I am fine